Philly Sugar

[QUOTE=SweetWillyRoll;5802303][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e62c1a0-e962-4c20-9cb8-ffe3872ad332?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]

She had a baby a couple months ago and is back and has been hitting me up, recently. I met her a couple times last summer and was hitting it raw for 200-250. She's. A little, but pretty fucking hot. Great ass.

If I didn't have a regular arrangement that I'm quite pleased with, I'd hit her up if I wanted to get some easy action.[/QUOTE]This has been touched on by a few people, but I found her social media before sending her a text that she solicited and there was a ton of drama / theft / drugs / feuds, etc. Still. Tempting. But not enough. Good luck.

Everyone hits this raw, but that's why you should RTFF. She is a hard pass now for so many reasons. I blocked her outright.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=Pleck2;5803129]This has been touched on by a few people, but I found her social media before sending her a text that she solicited and there was a ton of drama / theft / drugs / feuds, etc. Still. Tempting. But not enough. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

I gave seeking a try for a couple of months and was on Adult Friend finders for a month or two and it's got me wondering if I'm better off with just finding some target rich enviro moments to pursue what I seek in real life instead of on the internet. This isn't just an idle thought because in my experience, I've always been more successful in person in all the aspects of arrangements and dating. I've been actively working on two women in my personal life that I would never date seriously but with whom I'd enjoy a mutually beneficial arrangement. I like it because at this point in my life I can be brutally honest and tell them that we can have fun but I'm here for one thing and it's not a commitment! I'm old and I'm lazy. I don't want to drive further than 20 minute. I don't want someone setting up on me while I'm setting up on them! Thoughts? While I was going through a divorce I cultivated a wide range of bartender friends at multiple local bars and that's sort of my normal hunting grounds if I'm looking a little younger, but I've also noticed that you can meet some good looking older women at higher end locals but after a month or two you'll find out why they are available!

Thanks for listen to my rant!

Now that my membership has expired for seeking I seem to be getting all kinds of messages, half of them are from profiles that are gone in a week. Adult friend finders. I don't know what's up with the site people do get back to you but it's a woman's market so it may take weeks to have a full conversation. The quality isn't that great unless you want to put yourself in some weird situations. Are there any other sites to try?

[QUOTE=Mythbuster;5816850]I gave seeking a try for a couple of months and was on Adult Friend finders for a month or two and it's got me wondering if I'm better off with just finding some target rich enviro moments to pursue what I seek in real life instead of on the internet. This isn't just an idle thought because in my experience, I've always been more successful in person in all the aspects of arrangements and dating. I've been actively working on two women in my personal life that I would never date seriously but with whom I'd enjoy a mutually beneficial arrangement. I like it because at this point in my life I can be brutally honest and tell them that we can have fun but I'm here for one thing and it's not a commitment! I'm old and I'm lazy. I don't want to drive further than 20 minute. I don't want someone setting up on me while I'm setting up on them! Thoughts? While I was going through a divorce I cultivated a wide range of bartender friends at multiple local bars and that's sort of my normal hunting grounds if I'm looking a little younger, but I've also noticed that you can meet some good looking older women at higher end locals but after a month or two you'll find out why they are available!

Thanks for listen to my rant!

Now that my membership has expired for seeking I seem to be getting all kinds of messages, half of them are from profiles that are gone in a week. Adult friend finders. I don't know what's up with the site people do get back to you but it's a woman's market so it may take weeks to have a full conversation. The quality isn't that great unless you want to put yourself in some weird situations. Are there any other sites to try?[/QUOTE]Play to your strengths, play in the most familiar surroundings, play where you find it!

There was a dude here, Fbtom, who could pick up a girl for play at the bar, in line at Wawa and at Walmart. So if that is where your skill set lies, go for it! Much easier to make decisions face-to-face than miles of texting off a website. Paying for website access is one way, real life encounters skips so many steps.

Go for it!

Hello Fellow Mongers.

I relocated from NH to Easton back in September. One of the Allentown members told me about this section as there is no place to put this up there. I was very active up in NH since 2011 and I'm just as active here. I'm exclusively on SA and WYP. I've had great luck here as their are way more women to choose from down here compared to NH. I've met some great women here and they are very friendly. I don't know if you guys get up by the ABC area but here is what I've found so far.

I have also met some scammers on SA:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7db7e4dd-1a00-4b64-a9a3-c478b75f43ac[/URL]

Beware of this one I took her on 5 dates buying lunch / dinners and when she realized that I was not giving her money she ghosted me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ab090db3-54e6-4fd4-84a5-fcd4200664e8[/URL]

This one reached out to me and we setup two different dates and she blew me off both times, never ripped me off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73694819-723b-4aa5-9544-84c3ed0e82ee[/URL]

This one in Bethlehem was fun but young and hot $$. 5 worth it for me. No BS with this one you just have to have a place to go.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8367ae8a-b20d-43ec-a6a4-5228cd04051e[/URL]

Wind Gap, this is the first women I met off of SA when I moved to PA. Took her for Shushi and 2 hours later we were at my place, worth seeing $$. 5.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2eeab153-961e-4a2e-8a20-acd4d821e1c8[/URL]

Easton, one of my all time favs, 21 and I have no right getting this one at my age. Love those Latinas $$.

All these girls are GFE / FS the ones I have been with.

If any Monger have any women up in my area please feel free to PM me.

I hope this helps some of you guys out.

Good and stay safe!

I'm trying to venture into Sugardating with SA. But I don't know where to start. Do you mostly meet up with them at restaurants and see where it goes? Or can the arrangement be prearranged. I would hate to take her out for dinner only to walk away with a case of blue balls.

[QUOTE=MoDog;5826055]I'm trying to venture into Sugardating with SA. But I don't know where to start. Do you mostly meet up with them at restaurants and see where it goes? Or can the arrangement be prearranged. I would hate to take her out for dinner only to walk away with a case of blue balls.[/QUOTE]This is adult dating and there are no rules per se. When I am in the bowl I want to evaluate the girl and the situation before committing funds or taking risks. A word of general warning: Just be careful to NOT talk about sex for money, or use "code words" that imply sex-for-money on the SA PM messaging as BOTS scan messages and you can get booted off the site (no refund!). When you get to that point in a convo, take it offsite to text, Kik, SC, etc.

Some UTR Pro girls will be fine skipping a Meet & Greet (M&G) and head directly to the fuck chamber (FC). A lot of the hot college girls., or single Moms, will want to meet to make sure you aren't a serial killer or creepy and thus want a M&G. I want to meet to see if the girl is psycho, is a rinser or if her style matches my needs. I have never taken a girl out for dinner or something that is a HUGE money outlay as a M&G, just coffee or drinks. The pay for dinner stuff is a carry over from the WYP site and usually the style of a rinser.

In any kind of mongering I had to learn that going home with "blue balls" was always a possibility. I had to learn to think with the Big Head first as to stay safe. A few times when I didn't do that I found trouble: got ripped-off, had bad dates, found wacko girls or other dangerous situations. So I insist on a M&G as a way to vet the girl and determine her situation and our compatibility. Just like any kind of mongering follow rule #1: NO MONEY UP FRONT. Money when the panties hit the floor.

I will say this after talking to MANY SBs at M&G and asking about their experiences on SA. A LOT of guys treat girls like prostitutes (well, they are, but most don't want t feel like they are). So I found that treating them like GFs to some extent has better results. So for the most part I have never offered a girl to meet me for the first time at the FC. Again, I think UTR pros are the few that would so that.

As far as learning goes, there use to be one thread on USA that dealt with SBs and that was the Richmond, VA SB thread. It still acts like a national clearing house as the dudes there tolerate questions and posts from all over. The advice there was so good that another thread was created capturing the best of the best. (Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ) One can read that thread and find answers on every topic. (definitions, profiles, contacting, prices, hotels, tactics, tips & tricks, etc.) So with a little reading on can get some tips, pointers and suggestions. The 'how to" thread can be found here:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ[/URL]

Lots of guys stumble into dating without much background or forethought. "Experiential learning" is one way to approach things, but that can be dangerous. For my money, learning a few things upfront, before venturing out, makes sense. Guys don't plan to fail, but in many situations they fail to plan. So I approach it as how can I control the situation without being a jerk and still selling myself as someone she wants to get naked with. The second, what is my Plan B if something goes wrong at any stage of the M&G or date?

Good luck, be safe!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5826078]. I have never taken a girl out for dinner or something that is a HUGE money outlay as a M&G, just coffee or drinks. [/QUOTE]I wholeheartedly agree with this reply. I will add one minor detail from experience. Forgetting about the expense of going to dinner (which I don't mind at all if the company is good) I stick to drinks / coffee on M&G's for one simple reason. Dinner can be a LONG time to sit with someone if there is zero chemistry, she is completely disengaged, can't hold even a basic conversation, or is sitting there fooling on her phone the whole time.

Best of luck.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5826078]This is adult dating and there are no rules per se. When I am in the bowl I want to evaluate the girl and the situation before committing funds or taking risks. A word of general warning: Just be careful to NOT talk about sex for money, or use "code words" that imply sex-for-money on the SA PM messaging as BOTS scan messages and you can get booted off the site (no refund!). When you get to that point in a convo, take it offsite to text, Kik, SC, etc.

Some UTR Pro girls will be fine skipping a Meet & Greet (M&G) and head directly to the fuck chamber (FC). A lot of the hot college girls., or single Moms, will want to meet to make sure you aren't a serial killer or creepy and thus want a M&G. I want to meet to see if the girl is psycho, is a rinser or if her style matches my needs. I have never taken a girl out for dinner or something that is a HUGE money outlay as a M&G, just coffee or drinks. The pay for dinner stuff is a carry over from the WYP site and usually the style of a rinser.

In any kind of mongering I had to learn that going home with "blue balls" was always a possibility. I had to learn to think with the Big Head first as to stay safe. A few times when I didn't do that I found trouble: got ripped-off, had bad dates, found wacko girls or other dangerous situations. So I insist on a M&G as a way to vet the girl and determine her situation and our compatibility. Just like any kind of mongering follow rule #1: NO MONEY UP FRONT. Money when the panties hit the floor.

I will say this after talking to MANY SBs at M&G and asking about their experiences on SA. A LOT of guys treat girls like prostitutes (well, they are, but most don't want t feel like they are). So I found that treating them like GFs to some extent has better results. So for the most part I have never offered a girl to meet me for the first time at the FC. Again, I think UTR pros are the few that would so that.

As far as learning goes, there use to be one thread on USA that dealt with SBs and that was the Richmond, VA SB thread. It still acts like a national clearing house as the dudes there tolerate questions and posts from all over. The advice there was so good that another thread was created capturing the best of the best. (Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ) One can read that thread and find answers on every topic. (definitions, profiles, contacting, prices, hotels, tactics, tips & tricks, etc.) So with a little reading on can get some tips, pointers and suggestions. The 'how to" thread can be found here:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ[/URL]

Lots of guys stumble into dating without much background or forethought. "Experiential learning" is one way to approach things, but that can be dangerous. For my money, learning a few things upfront, before venturing out, makes sense. Guys don't plan to fail, but in many situations they fail to plan. So I approach it as how can I control the situation without being a jerk and still selling myself as someone she wants to get naked with. The second, what is my Plan B if something goes wrong at any stage of the M&G or date?

Good luck, be safe![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Skyguy2;5826306]I wholeheartedly agree with this reply. I will add one minor detail from experience. Forgetting about the expense of going to dinner (which I don't mind at all if the company is good) I stick to drinks / coffee on M&G's for one simple reason. Dinner can be a LONG time to sit with someone if there is zero chemistry, she is completely disengaged, can't hold even a basic conversation, or is sitting there fooling on her phone the whole time.

Best of luck.[/QUOTE]Some very good tips, as usual. Thank you.

If I can put my. 02 cents in.

Want to stress, do NOT mention sex acts OR money! These sites have been cracking down to the point that they don't even want you to mention sex acts, let alone, the forbidden S&M. They WILL permanently ban your IP address and you may find it difficult to even make another account.

I think probably the best use of time / monetary resources would be as mentioned in these prior posts:

Move quickly to an off site "chat" or convo, once a mutual interest has been established. The M&G should be, as stated, in a "quick, but inexpensive setting". If you invite psycho to dinner, you're not only a little more committed financially, but time wise, as well. (Do you really want to suffer through ANY more time then you have to with a psycho?

As also mentioned,. The girls on those sites do NOT think of themselves and even look down upon even as much as the high end escorts who make thousands of dollars more than them and MAY in fact even have higher standards or morals. They do NOT want to be treated like a hooker, a call girl, an escort, a street walker, or any "regular" sex worker. So, do THAT, and you'll likely lose their interest quickly and things will become sour, rather than sweet. Treat it / them not like you would in a traditional relationship and things will more than likely progress further and quicker.

Good luck, happy hunting, and be safe!!

[QUOTE=PPJones;5827520]Some very good tips, as usual. Thank you.

If I can put my. 02 cents in.

Want to stress, do NOT mention sex acts OR money! These sites have been cracking down to the point that they don't even want you to mention sex acts, let alone, the forbidden S&M. They WILL permanently ban your IP address and you may find it difficult to even make another account.

I think probably the best use of time / monetary resources would be as mentioned in these prior posts:

Move quickly to an off site "chat" or convo, once a mutual interest has been established. The M&G should be, as stated, in a "quick, but inexpensive setting". If you invite psycho to dinner, you're not only a little more committed financially, but time wise, as well. (Do you really want to suffer through ANY more time then you have to with a psycho?

As also mentioned,. The girls on those sites do NOT think of themselves and even look down upon even as much as the high end escorts who make thousands of dollars more than them and MAY in fact even have higher standards or morals. They do NOT want to be treated like a hooker, a call girl, an escort, a street walker, or any "regular" sex worker. So, do THAT, and you'll likely lose their interest quickly and things will become sour, rather than sweet. Treat it / them not like you would in a traditional relationship and things will more than likely progress further and quicker.

Good luck, happy hunting, and be safe!![/QUOTE]A lot of good advice has been offered on this board already. I would just add. You have to be critical about yourself. Know who you are and where you are comfortable. What you are willing to spend just to get to know someone. I like dinner at certain places where either I don't have many attachments or know the staff well enough that I can send a text and get out if I need to. It's all about you and your comfort. Think about what you need 1st to feel comfortable and like Shampoo55 said you're going to have the blue balls sometimes.

[QUOTE=GranAnimal;5822657]Hello Fellow Mongers.

I relocated from NH to Easton back in September. One of the Allentown members told me about this section as there is no place to put this up there. I was very active up in NH since 2011 and I'm just as active here. I'm exclusively on SA and WYP. I've had great luck here as their are way more women to choose from down here compared to NH. I've met some great women here and they are very friendly. I don't know if you guys get up by the ABC area but here is what I've found so far.

I have also met some scammers on SA:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7db7e4dd-1a00-4b64-a9a3-c478b75f43ac[/URL]

Beware of this one I took her on 5 dates buying lunch / dinners and when she realized that I was not giving her money she ghosted me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ab090db3-54e6-4fd4-84a5-fcd4200664e8[/URL]

This one reached out to me and we setup two different dates and she blew me off both times, never ripped me off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73694819-723b-4aa5-9544-84c3ed0e82ee[/URL]

This one in Bethlehem was fun but young and hot $$. 5 worth it for me. No BS with this one you just have to have a place to go.[/QUOTE]Great info and welcome to the board. Many of us can use this information especially if we take a trip up to Windcreek up in Bethlehem.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5817522]Play to your strengths, play in the most familiar surroundings, play where you find it!

There was a dude here, Fbtom, who could pick up a girl for play at the bar, in line at Wawa and at Walmart. So if that is where your skill set lies, go for it! Much easier to make decisions face-to-face than miles of texting off a website. Paying for website access is one way, real life encounters skips so many steps.

Go for it![/QUOTE]Thanks! Recently went out with one of my free to play targets and realized why I hadn't in months. Still waiting for another to get off the Covid bench but I'm starting to see some activity in some of the local bars that I pursue for new targets. I'm mostly in southwest Bucks and Monco and like to frequent those higher end bars where you find the female population enjoying their super charged ladies night cocktails or $5 wines. I need a list of these kind of places if its out there somewhere. (Blue Bell Inn, and Panache are my two place to investigate right now).

I'm not totally done with SA but I haven't reupped yet. I've noticed that I have 14 unopened messages at this point but my unopened messaged seemed to double once my membership expired. Anyone have any intel on other sites that are useful?

[QUOTE=Mythbuster;5834933]Thanks! Recently went out with one of my free to play targets and realized why I hadn't in months. Still waiting for another to get off the Covid bench but I'm starting to see some activity in some of the local bars that I pursue for new targets. I'm mostly in southwest Bucks and Monco and like to frequent those higher end bars where you find the female population enjoying their super charged ladies night cocktails or $5 wines. I need a list of these kind of places if its out there somewhere. (Blue Bell Inn, and Panache are my two place to investigate right now).

I'm not totally done with SA but I haven't reupped yet. I've noticed that I have 14 unopened messages at this point but my unopened messaged seemed to double once my membership expired. Anyone have any intel on other sites that are useful?[/QUOTE]There is a bar in Lower Bucks, if memory serves, that is essentially a swinger's bar or a place one goes to get picked up. Met a couple there once, but it has been so long ago I don't remember the name.

Most other sites do the pay for credits racket. Can't tell if contacts are real or bot generated until after you spend your credits.

If you are looking for the meat market, try Del Friscos in Philly. Full of MILFs, upscale ladies looking for action. However, the drinks are crazy expensive as well as the food.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5835828]There is a bar in Lower Bucks, if memory serves, that is essentially a swinger's bar or a place one goes to get picked up. Met a couple there once, but it has been so long ago I don't remember the name.

Most other sites do the pay for credits racket. Can't tell if contacts are real or bot generated until after you spend your credits.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5837594]If you are looking for the meat market, try Del Friscos in Philly. Full of MILFs, upscale ladies looking for action. However, the drinks are crazy expensive as well as the food.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]That's my kind of spot! I was just there late last year. It was a boy's night but we were more caught up on catching up than prowling so I didn't roam far from our table. I'd love to find a place like that in the burbs! (I wish there was a thread for that kind of thing) Anyone have any recent experience on SA. I have about 14 unanswered messages but I'm worried that they are just bots or scam artist. I'll probably do a short stint on the site in another month or two.