"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=LikeMike1963;2802680]I would NEVER pretend to know what was best to say or attempt to enter the mind of a woman. LOL. But yeah. I think that may happen in a positive way.[/QUOTE]All I can say is do your risk assessment and do it objectively and fairly as if detached from the situation. If you have done that and perceive zero risk, then fine. If you don't or mess up the risk assessment you might find some "experiential learning. " I don't think ALL of the world is as open & free and carefree as OP opine. I'm just sayin'.

Good luck!

Had a quick first visit with a college freshman yesterday 18/ blk. Really hot tiny petite body for m&g cost 100. Set a meeting for full date today, so I thought!! For 300, but texts me today just before the meet and tells me she wants to have simple Fun Time!! Hell no!! Got burned running around spending money hoping to get some previously. Done with that crap, may be some potential there but not taking any chances.

My question to you all is there are so many young ones out there thinking that there are men on SA looking for some arm candy or looking to have a young girl to make them feel better, and spend thousands of dollars on them not getting intimate times, what the F*.

Any thoughts on that.

Any brothers on here who are fishing in the Chicago pool who would like to connect and share the brotherhood please PM me.

Peace,

Scott.

Absolutely an assessment needs to be completed, that was assumed. My comment on him knowing her well enough to tell her was related to how to tell her. Every one of them have different feelings, different ways to connect. That's critical and how you would break something like that. All along she thought she had trust, and you spring a new name on her, that can put her into a spin. So how you approach and talk through that depends on each girl's personality. Part of the game.

[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2803658]All I can say is do your risk assessment and do it objectively and fairly as if detached from the situation. If you have done that and perceive zero risk, then fine. If you don't or mess up the risk assessment you might find some "experiential learning. " I don't think ALL of the world is as open & free and carefree as OP opine. I'm just sayin'.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S2568;2804042]Had a quick first visit with a college freshman yesterday 18/ blk. Really hot tiny petite body for m&g cost 100. Set a meeting for full date today, so I thought!! For 300, but texts me today just before the meet and tells me she wants to have simple Fun Time!! Hell no!! Got burned running around spending money hoping to get some previously. Done with that crap, may be some potential there but not taking any chances.

My question to you all is there are so many young ones out there thinking that there are men on SA looking for some arm candy or looking to have a young girl to make them feel better, and spend thousands of dollars on them not getting intimate times, what the F*.

Any thoughts on that.[/QUOTE]First of all you never every pay for a M & G.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2804756]First of all you never every pay for a M & G.[/QUOTE]Not paying for M&G, I have done that before who went straight for F* sessions was great all those negotiations were done with texts or e mails. But few of the younger ones that I am dealing with all send you a message back that they are not looking for any intimate relations, in my humble effort to see if I can swing them a bit I am trying to take a chance. I did have success before a few times.

Another matter, got in touch with my ATF, asked for a meet with the usual, asked for a one grand. Since she has lost her regular job she is became more pricey! Had to let her go. Disparately searching for some new talent. Still has some old contacts can use them when I need. But I always go for new ones, all the excitement and high I get from a new prospect keeps me on the toes.

Good Hunting!

[QUOTE=S2568;2804042]Had a quick first visit with a college freshman yesterday 18/ blk. Really hot tiny petite body for m&g cost 100. Set a meeting for full date today, so I thought!! For 300, but texts me today just before the meet and tells me she wants to have simple Fun Time!! Hell no!! Got burned running around spending money hoping to get some previously. Done with that crap, may be some potential there but not taking any chances.

My question to you all is there are so many young ones out there thinking that there are men on SA looking for some arm candy or looking to have a young girl to make them feel better, and spend thousands of dollars on them not getting intimate times, what the F*.

Any thoughts on that.[/QUOTE]I echo Mike, N-E-V-E-R pay for a M&G. Expenses are an exception if she needs to Uber over or drive 60 miles, such as Urban high dollar areas like NYC. I don't Sugar in an area that is costly to get around though.

You have to have a thick skin and realize that many girls are looking to work the system. Just NEXT her if she is not down for the FC. This is not Match or Christian Mingle.

Unfortunately, I think there are probably too many inexperienced guys who will pay. This Pot for example, got you to pay for the M&G,so now she thinks she can just do it again with other guys. That is what WYP is designed for. Pay for a date. It beats me why any guy would do that. Be part of the solution by never paying for a m&G again.

In my early days I did agree a couple of times to pay to meet. Baaaaad idea. Way sets up a precedent and they know you are a target. With that said if you meet under the assumption that there is no pay to just meet and you have a good connect I have handed them a little surprise envelope and just say I enjoyed meeting you and hope to meet again. Does not have to be much. Maybe a $50 gift card or similar. Keep in mind most of my sbs have not been from sites but hand picked.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2805096]I echo Mike, N-E-V-E-R pay for a M&G. Expenses are an exception if she needs to Uber over or drive 60 miles, such as Urban high dollar areas like NYC. I don't Sugar in an area that is costly to get around though.

You have to have a thick skin and realize that many girls are looking to work the system. Just NEXT her if she is not down for the FC. This is not Match or Christian Mingle.

Unfortunately, I think there are probably too many inexperienced guys who will pay. This Pot for example, got you to pay for the M&G,so now she thinks she can just do it again with other guys. That is what WYP is designed for. Pay for a date. It beats me why any guy would do that. Be part of the solution by never paying for a m&G again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S2568;2805039]Not paying for M&G, I have done that before who went straight for F* sessions was great all those negotiations were done with texts or e mails. But few of the younger ones that I am dealing with all send you a message back that they are not looking for any intimate relations, in my humble effort to see if I can swing them a bit I am trying to take a chance. I did have success before a few times.

Another matter, got in touch with my ATF, asked for a meet with the usual, asked for a one grand. Since she has lost her regular job she is became more pricey! Had to let her go. Disparately searching for some new talent. Still has some old contacts can use them when I need. But I always go for new ones, all the excitement and high I get from a new prospect keeps me on the toes.

Good Hunting![/QUOTE]Sorry, misunderstood your post.

[QUOTE=Larry1023;2794099]I contatced her she asks for 3500 $ amonth for one time a week meeting. Is that normal for a SB for overpriced.

[URL]http://richmond.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/here-i-am-what-were-your-other-two-wishes/17321733[/URL][/QUOTE]I contacted her too, her story now is she has $3500 in expenses per month and how much could I help out with that. I usually try to stay in the 200 to 250 range, but I went higher for her, pretty hot, told her 350 per, never heard back. Haha! She is delusional.

I am curious if anyone is doing this while married. Does an SB pose a much bigger risk than say a straight up escort, "massage" therapist etc. To your private life or are they all one-in-the-same (with obvious built-in-risk)? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Peer92;2809696]I am curious if anyone is doing this while married. Does an SB pose a much bigger risk than say a straight up escort, "massage" therapist etc. To your private life or are they all one-in-the-same (with obvious built-in-risk)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'd say the AVERAGE SB poses a bigger threat to a relationship than a pro since they are more likely to become attached and therefore more likely to react in an unstable manner when you don't' give them what they want (time, feelings).

But that is on AVERAGE, and no one is average. The trick is screening for mental stability (possibly at the expense of wild fuck skills / nymphomaniacal appetite for your cock) up front. One way to is to find an SB who has as much to lose as you do (law school student, beauty pageant contestants, Capitol HIll / political workers). Another is to find out if they have dated married men before, or ask if doing so is an issue for them and talk about why not and your motivations.

Can't say I've never done that on accident, when a cover has a problem, however I have never done that intentionally. My thing is to do nothing to hurt the young ladies life or future, just to help them. Well, there is a little selfishness there I guess, I need to be happy too! But yeah, there has been several occasions where the cover blew out or had problems, and I needed to batten down the hatches for a while.

[QUOTE=FTP1999;2809424]I'm always curious about some of the war stories out there.
Some we regret doing.
Some we loved doing... and we think we are going to hell because of it.

OK. Here is one to get started.

I'm going to hell, because.
I hooked up with a high school girl last year and came inside her.
In my defense, I did check her ID and she is 18+.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Archer, the sugar baby Relationship is generally more risky. I think some guys on here look at these relationships a little different. I look for a connection, true feelings. When you find that, sometimes it can be difficult. Fortunately I live far enough away from where I play that it's okay. I have dabbled very close to home, and it gets a little nerve wracking! I went into a restaurant one evening with the wife and child, knowing a former sugar baby worked there still. Needless to say, I was a bit nervous! Thankfully she wasn't working that evening, so it worked out.

Escorts or some of the other providers are much less risky in regard to that as Charlie Sheen said you pay them to leave! But again, it's all in what you are looking for. I've been married for over 30 years, been playing this game for 4 or 5 years now. And frankly there is no way I would turn back. The sight, feel, taste of a beautiful 20 year old is tough to let go of!

[QUOTE=Peer92;2809696]I am curious if anyone is doing this while married. Does an SB pose a much bigger risk than say a straight up escort, "massage" therapist etc. To your private life or are they all one-in-the-same (with obvious built-in-risk)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bowtie;2809965] it gets a little nerve wracking! I went into a restaurant one evening with the wife and child, knowing a former sugar baby worked there still. Needless to say, I was a bit nervous! Thankfully she wasn't working that evening, so it worked out.
[/QUOTE]Had an M&G and car BBBJ with an SB this week, knowing that she is the hostess / manager of a restaurant we go to for brunch once a month. Need to figure out how to work that one out of the rotation since I know she works Sundays for sure (when I put 2 and 2 together, I recognized her from a prior visit -- saw her at the hostess stand and thought "a little thick, but pretty, and that tongue stud must be awesome for sucking cock" I was right!