Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

I'm 63 and I like piercings and other body modifications like tattoos on a woman as long as they are well done. So age really doesn't have anything to do with your post.

Prison tats or backyard piercings I don't like, but I see professionally done ink to be expressive. I enjoy hearing the back story about the meaning of the ink and the reason why they got a piercing.

Personally I enjoy playing with nipple piercings. I also enjoy nibbling a clit ring while DATY.

Two cliches sum up this discussion:

1.) Her body, her right to do what she wants to do.

2.) To each his own.

If you don't like piercings or tats see someone else.

[QUOTE=JohnCleland;4239681]The Octagon is great entertainment. Here's my pet peeve question: are there really dudes out there that actually like it when a woman destroys the beauty / integrity of her nipples with spikes thinking it's "body jewelry?" I'm obviously expressing my personal opinion with this loaded question here. The worst is when a woman thinks a "ring" in or around her clitoris is, somehow, not only attractive but acts as some kind of pleasure stimulant. I've learned to tolerate navel, some facial piercings, and even ridiculous tongue "rings" (and no, it doesn't improve the sensation for my cock when it's on its way down your throat, ladies). I forget the comedian who once described excessive facial piercings as what happens when a tackle box explodes in a woman's face. But where the hell did anyone get the bright idea that placing what appears to look like a miniature dangling barbell through a woman's nose septum looking very much like something I'd see dangling below the noses of bull cattle is also, somehow, attractive? Or a ring or three around her lip? My theory is all the above is about low personal self-esteem. Or, perhaps this kind of body "adornment" comes from the same dumb place as when a woman thinks her bad perfume that resembles someone's grandmother is also, somehow, attractive? Don't even get me started on tattoos. At least once a woman wakes up out of her self-esteem delirium and removes a bad piercing mistake all it leaves behind is a small hole as evidence. I'm convinced they're not doing this for us, guys. They're doing it for themselves. Anyone have any neon pink or green hair dye?

I'm obviously revealing my age here. You're invited to chime in, team.

JC.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnCleland;4239681]The Octagon is great entertainment. Here's my pet peeve question: are there really dudes out there that actually like it when a woman destroys the beauty / integrity of her nipples with spikes thinking it's "body jewelry?" I'm obviously expressing my personal opinion with this loaded question here. The worst is when a woman thinks a "ring" in or around her clitoris is, somehow, not only attractive but acts as some kind of pleasure stimulant. I've learned to tolerate navel, some facial piercings, and even ridiculous tongue "rings" (and no, it doesn't improve the sensation for my cock when it's on its way down your throat, ladies). I forget the comedian who once described excessive facial piercings as what happens when a tackle box explodes in a woman's face. But where the hell did anyone get the bright idea that placing what appears to look like a miniature dangling barbell through a woman's nose septum looking very much like something I'd see dangling below the noses of bull cattle is also, somehow, attractive? Or a ring or three around her lip? My theory is all the above is about low personal self-esteem. Or, perhaps this kind of body "adornment" comes from the same dumb place as when a woman thinks her bad perfume that resembles someone's grandmother is also, somehow, attractive? Don't even get me started on tattoos. At least once a woman wakes up out of her self-esteem delirium and removes a bad piercing mistake all it leaves behind is a small hole as evidence. I'm convinced they're not doing this for us, guys. They're doing it for themselves. Anyone have any neon pink or green hair dye?

I'm obviously revealing my age here. You're invited to chime in, team.

JC.[/QUOTE]I agree with you John. A woman's body is a thing of beauty as created. I've seen tats that are tastefully created but I prefer natural.

The first time I saw nipple rings was in 1980. I met two 21 year old spinners at a party. They had nipple rings and when they lifted their shirts to show me I laughed my ass off. They took me to the bed and pulled out a couple of jewelry type chains and threaded them thru the rings. They took turns riding me while pulling the chain back and forth thru the nipple rings. The stimulation caused them to have absolute screaming orgasms. It was a great night. They wanted me to get nipple rings and I said hell no. I've never met a woman since that did that.

Even with the memory of that night, I prefer to look at a woman without piercings.

Personally, I believe that people have the right to do what they wish with their bodies. However, I also believe that all this piercing business is driven by current entertainment. The women like to emulate what they believe to be fashion.

What they don't realize is that piercing relates back to long ago when men held women as slaves, and nipple and clitoral hood piercings were a convenient way to lightly chain a woman to control her movements. Few women would risk tearing their clit or nipples trying to escape the chain, which then made it possible to use lighter, less bulky chains to control her. Then, because men liked to decorate their women for beauty and also for sanitary purposes (gold and silver don't promote infection) they used gold, silver, and precious gems. Also, gold and silver are not as strong as steel. Just my thoughts on the matter.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=PinkParticles;4239478]From my experience outside the hobby, I find that most women in the 18-24 age range are completely shaven. A woman outside the hobby who I was talking to recently (22), sent me a puss pic & apologized to me for not being fully shaved. Like it was going to be a turn off or something if she had a little stubble haha. It was almost like men she had met, expected a well groomed twat. I think a lot more females watch porn nowadays and see cleanly shaved **** & get it in their head that is the norm. I think the older women don't seem to care as much and are more likely to let the Bush grow rampant. But outside of the hobby it's been a while since I've been intimate with anyone over 30 so I can't really speak on that too much. With the amount of hairless holes I've come across lately (pun intended) I actually prefer a landing strip or a little stubble. I am good on the disco squirrel nests that you can floss your teeth with, I will leave that to someone who prefers the hippie era LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm old school and love Bush on a woman. There is something sexy seeing that dark Bush on a woman as long as it's not too hairy. I wish I could find more providers with this feature. Anybody know of any out there?

[QUOTE=JohnCleland;4239681]The Octagon is great entertainment. Here's my pet peeve question: are there really dudes out there that actually like it when a woman destroys the beauty / integrity of her nipples with spikes thinking it's "body jewelry?" I'm obviously expressing my personal opinion with this loaded question here. The worst is when a woman thinks a "ring" in or around her clitoris is, somehow, not only attractive but acts as some kind of pleasure stimulant. I've learned to tolerate navel, some facial piercings, and even ridiculous tongue "rings" (and no, it doesn't improve the sensation for my cock when it's on its way down your throat, ladies). I forget the comedian who once described excessive facial piercings as what happens when a tackle box explodes in a woman's face. But where the hell did anyone get the bright idea that placing what appears to look like a miniature dangling barbell through a woman's nose septum looking very much like something I'd see dangling below the noses of bull cattle is also, somehow, attractive? Or a ring or three around her lip? My theory is all the above is about low personal self-esteem. Or, perhaps this kind of body "adornment" comes from the same dumb place as when a woman thinks her bad perfume that resembles someone's grandmother is also, somehow, attractive? Don't even get me started on tattoos. At least once a woman wakes up out of her self-esteem delirium and removes a bad piercing mistake all it leaves behind is a small hole as evidence. I'm convinced they're not doing this for us, guys. They're doing it for themselves. Anyone have any neon pink or green hair dye?

I'm obviously revealing my age here. You're invited to chime in, team.

JC.[/QUOTE]I think a woman can do what she wants with her body. Yes, there are cultures where men also dictate much of that.

But I think the original question was about our preferences. Personally, I do not like piercings or tattoos. I think a woman's body looks amazing and does not need artificial enhancements. If someone has an interesting tattoo, I will ask about it because there is usually a story. I have not heard stories about piercings.

I have a friend with pierced nipples. She also has a great set of 38 DDs. I prefer to look and suck without the piercings in place. But she is into BDSM, so she enjoys taking advantage of the piercings to do some pulling and twisting.

[QUOTE=JohnCleland;4239681]The Octagon is great entertainment. Here's my pet peeve question: are there really dudes out there that actually like it when a woman destroys the beauty / integrity of her nipples with spikes thinking it's "body jewelry?" I'm obviously expressing my personal opinion with this loaded question here. The worst is when a woman thinks a "ring" in or around her clitoris is, somehow, not only attractive but acts as some kind of pleasure stimulant. I've learned to tolerate navel, some facial piercings, and even ridiculous tongue "rings" (and no, it doesn't improve the sensation for my cock when it's on its way down your throat, ladies). I forget the comedian who once described excessive facial piercings as what happens when a tackle box explodes in a woman's face. But where the hell did anyone get the bright idea that placing what appears to look like a miniature dangling barbell through a woman's nose septum looking very much like something I'd see dangling below the noses of bull cattle is also, somehow, attractive? Or a ring or three around her lip? My theory is all the above is about low personal self-esteem. Or, perhaps this kind of body "adornment" comes from the same dumb place as when a woman thinks her bad perfume that resembles someone's grandmother is also, somehow, attractive? Don't even get me started on tattoos. At least once a woman wakes up out of her self-esteem delirium and removes a bad piercing mistake all it leaves behind is a small hole as evidence. I'm convinced they're not doing this for us, guys. They're doing it for themselves. Anyone have any neon pink or green hair dye?

I'm obviously revealing my age here. You're invited to chime in, team.

JC.[/QUOTE]I don't enjoy them either. All natural women are sexy as hell.

I'm not a fan of piercings either. Actually the facial ones I dislike more than the body piercings. I also prefer a Bush too, just seems more natural to me and a more mature look and it really never got in the way when daty either. Guess I'm not really a fan of the ink either. But at least piercings and hair color can be temporary, ink is permanent.

[QUOTE=JohnCleland;4239681]The Octagon is great entertainment. Here's my pet peeve question: are there really dudes out there that actually like it when a woman destroys the beauty / integrity of her nipples with spikes thinking it's "body jewelry?" I'm obviously expressing my personal opinion with this loaded question here. The worst is when a woman thinks a "ring" in or around her clitoris is, somehow, not only attractive but acts as some kind of pleasure stimulant. I've learned to tolerate navel, some facial piercings, and even ridiculous tongue "rings" (and no, it doesn't improve the sensation for my cock when it's on its way down your throat, ladies). I forget the comedian who once described excessive facial piercings as what happens when a tackle box explodes in a woman's face. But where the hell did anyone get the bright idea that placing what appears to look like a miniature dangling barbell through a woman's nose septum looking very much like something I'd see dangling below the noses of bull cattle is also, somehow, attractive? Or a ring or three around her lip? My theory is all the above is about low personal self-esteem. Or, perhaps this kind of body "adornment" comes from the same dumb place as when a woman thinks her bad perfume that resembles someone's grandmother is also, somehow, attractive? Don't even get me started on tattoos. At least once a woman wakes up out of her self-esteem delirium and removes a bad piercing mistake all it leaves behind is a small hole as evidence. I'm convinced they're not doing this for us, guys. They're doing it for themselves. Anyone have any neon pink or green hair dye?

I'm obviously revealing my age here. You're invited to chime in, team.

JC.[/QUOTE]

Although I did say I believe women can pierce and ink if they wish to, I didn't mention that I'm not a huge fan of ink, unless its very well and skillfully done. As far as piercings go, I'm not fond of the face studs and lip or nose rings, I think they mar The beauty, like trying badly to gild a lily. Especially when they ink their face, I think that's ugly. I once knew a girl who had a unicorn tattoo on her breast. After about 30 years, it turned out to be a giraffe, LOL.

In the Bush controversy, I am a great fan of shaved pussy. In fact I have at times had girlfriends who let me shave them as a form of foreplay, then of course I would check for stray hairs with my tongue. Always enjoyable, both front and back. Plus, there is less friction with no hair, and also I think cleaner, especially for a working girl. Also, I think pretty much every girl who wears a thong or small bikini keeps it shaved.

[QUOTE=JohnCleland;4239681]The Octagon is great entertainment. Here's my pet peeve question: are there really dudes out there that actually like it when a woman destroys the beauty / integrity of her nipples with spikes thinking it's "body jewelry?" I'm obviously expressing my personal opinion with this loaded question here. The worst is when a woman thinks a "ring" in or around her clitoris is, somehow, not only attractive but acts as some kind of pleasure stimulant. I've learned to tolerate navel, some facial piercings, and even ridiculous tongue "rings" (and no, it doesn't improve the sensation for my cock when it's on its way down your throat, ladies). I forget the comedian who once described excessive facial piercings as what happens when a tackle box explodes in a woman's face. But where the hell did anyone get the bright idea that placing what appears to look like a miniature dangling barbell through a woman's nose septum looking very much like something I'd see dangling below the noses of bull cattle is also, somehow, attractive? Or a ring or three around her lip? My theory is all the above is about low personal self-esteem. Or, perhaps this kind of body "adornment" comes from the same dumb place as when a woman thinks her bad perfume that resembles someone's grandmother is also, somehow, attractive? Don't even get me started on tattoos. At least once a woman wakes up out of her self-esteem delirium and removes a bad piercing mistake all it leaves behind is a small hole as evidence. I'm convinced they're not doing this for us, guys. They're doing it for themselves. Anyone have any neon pink or green hair dye?

I'm obviously revealing my age here. You're invited to chime in, team.

JC.[/QUOTE]My personal feeling is I like a few tastefully designed ink. Works and piercings but the over the top blown out body canvases are too much for me. I love the artfully covered canvas but the face and knuckles shouldn't be inked. Also, not a fan of portraits on the thighs like old time tin works in the western days. I did know of some woman I went down on who had the words putty cat above vagina. Laughed at that and yes I did eat that putty cat.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;4239107]We all know that a lot, perhaps most providers and just about all porn stars have shaved mounds. But I'm curious to hear from you all, how common it is for women outside the hobby or porn videos to be shaved?

Is this just pretty much a hobby / porn type of thing? Is it also common among the younger women in general these days? The hobby is the only action I've been having for the past few years, so I can't say from first hand experience.[/QUOTE]Have known many younger women and older, will say most older believe in trimming and younger will shave it bare. Had one younger lady I know who shaved it into a heart for me to take pictures of and then shaved it to a landing strip after. I will eat any if not all pussy but one older lady let it go for amazon rain forest and I just couldn't. I kept coming up for air with hair. I like hair pie just not flossing with pubes all day long.

[QUOTE=AlanBu;4239999]I think a woman can do what she wants with her body. Yes, there are cultures where men also dictate much of that.

But I think the original question was about our preferences. Personally, I do not like piercings or tattoos. I think a woman's body looks amazing and does not need artificial enhancements. If someone has an interesting tattoo, I will ask about it because there is usually a story. I have not heard stories about piercings.

I have a friend with pierced nipples. She also has a great set of 38 DDs. I prefer to look and suck without the piercings in place. But she is into BDSM, so she enjoys taking advantage of the piercings to do some pulling and twisting.[/QUOTE]Is your friend UTR? I would like to meet her.

[QUOTE=PalmersDad;4241025]My personal feeling is I like a few tastefully designed ink. Works and piercings but the over the top blown out body canvases are too much for me. I love the artfully covered canvas but the face and knuckles shouldn't be inked. Also, not a fan of portraits on the thighs like old time tin works in the western days. I did know of some woman I went down on who had the words putty cat above vagina. Laughed at that and yes I did eat that putty cat.[/QUOTE]I knew a girl who had a yellow tat that looked just like the slippery when wet road sign right above her vagina. LOL.

There was a provider in Las Vegas that I would see on my yearly trip.

During the break to recycle I told her that I missed her and she replied, "I've missed you so much I tattooed your name on my ass. ".

My reply was, "You're kidding. ".

"Not joking" she said and she immediately jumped up and assumed doggie position. I was confronted by her delectable butt with "Your" on one cheek and "Name" on the other.

The lady, Jenny of LV was legendary until she came out of the closet as a lesbian and got married.

Oh the memories of our times together will be forever burned into my brain.

I remember a girl a while back that had a Honda tattoo. Was a pretty good time. For the longest I that it was Remmy. PB.

What is the funniest tattoo you have ever seen on a woman?

There is two that stick out in my mind. A girl that I went to college with, had a pair of boxing gloves located directly above her "box" with the words "Hit it like a Champ" and I always got a good laugh as I tried to smash her into oblivion. The next was a MILF provider out of CBus in the early 2000's with a big ass who had a stamp on her right cheek that read "100% USDA Prime" haha and I must say that I did concur with that ass assessment. I liked the fact that they both had a good sense of humor when it came to their body art and weren't all serious like some about what they put on their bodies. They both were DFW too! Too bad I lost touch:/ In my experience women with tats tend to go the extra mile in the bedroom more often than not. I do not oppose them, it's their bodies not mine.