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[QUOTE=TheMan31;6317993]Sounds like your having trouble excepting reality bro LOL!

I agree with the other poster. Change your mind set and work on yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Faceless02;6318059]I could continue to go back and forth but I don't think it would do any good so I'm just going to do you like your sb's and. 👻.

Best of luck with the business success.[/QUOTE]My long posts were responses about my experience in the scene and give my perspective. I said I disagreed with some things, but at no point did I ask for advice from anyone, nor did I lecture anybody about their lives.

90% of the time I could do like TomFord and when someone posts about a girl, rage about how ugly she is and how the man must be a loser to even want to fuck her. Or when the ever so common comment about allowance comes up and dudes flip out at paying more than 400 PPM, I could lecture them about financial success and how if they didn't settle for mediocrity, then maybe they wouldn't be pinching pennies over pussy.

Instead, I say nothing. When I can, I give my experiences as a man with my circumstances. And in turn, dudes tell me I can't accept reality LOL.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6317894]I ask for 12 h dates when the girl asks for 1000 ppm, not the other way around. My usual date is dinner and a few hours in a hotel room for 500, or less if I can negotiate it, but I'm rarely successful.

I've tried sleeping with women that aren't 8's and 9's. I'm just not attracted to them. Most of the time, the allowance that 7's ask for isn't even much different, still around 500 ppm, maybe 400. I have never gotten a single girl to agree to 300, so it's not like I'm saving a bunch of money by lowering my standards.

I'm at the point where if I couldn't afford to see 8's and above, I'd just stay home. Average chicks do nothing for me, sure they're fine as friends, but I don't get turned on by them. I also have an extremely hard time cumming, so it doesn't help when the girl is not smoking hot.

I don't get jealous, I couldn't care less about who else the girl is seeing. Sometimes when we're fucking, during dirty talk I ask them about the last guy they had inside them and when it was. Most girls get nervous because they figure it's a test I'm giving them and I'll flip out if they tell the truth, but I honestly get turned on hearing about other times they've enjoyed getting fucked. I've talked to girls about their BF's or dudes they're fucking, like a former SB from Richmond who fucked her 21 yo coworker at the bakery bareback even though she wasn't on BC.

You're not the first person to suggest getting in shape, and I'll say the same thing I've said to others: I work up really long hours frequently, 9 am until 7 PM, then 2 hours for dinner, then work until I go to bed at 12 or 1 am. I'm not about to put more stress on myself by adding working out to that. I hate exercising, it's very stressful for me and I don't get any sort of runner's high or whatever that other people talk about, or any improvement to my mood. It's just miserable.

I also have this mental thing where I hate my own cooking. I've had someone who knows how to cook stand next to the stove and tell me exactly what ingredients to add and when, and the end product that comes out is something I cannot eat, even though I know it's logically fine. It's something to do with seeing raw ingredients become a finished dish, it just ruins my appetite and makes it taste bad in my mouth.

So, with those things in mind, sure I could invest my money into overcoming those obstacles. Build a home gym. Hire a personal trainer to come over every day to train me. Hire a personal chef to deliver cooked food to me every other day that I just need to microwave. Hire a personal stylist and shopper to go out and buy outfits, design a wardrobe for me. All those put together and I'm probably at close to my SB budget, with no money left over for anything fun.

That will be my life for the next 2 years, working 12 hours a day and eating food from plastic containers, as well as doing pushups with some dude yelling motivational phrases at me. I should be around 180 for might height, so 120 pounds to lose. Then after I lose that weight, I have to go to a plastic surgeon to cut off the loose skin, heal up for another 6-8 months while not gaining any weight even though working out becomes harder.

After going through that hell, now the 9'sand 10's are going to be all over me, I'll be swimming in model pussy right? Wrong, now I'm just looking like an average dude who keeps fit. They're a dime a dozen at the gym, and none of them date Instagram models. I still have to become a multi millionaire at the minimum, as well as develop a social circle where I can have access to girls like that, and the free time to give them the experiences they date rich men for.

It's all so far away that it's not my concern now. I'm focused on building my business, and using money to get whatever I can in the sugar world. Once I'm over the hump I'm at now and have a bit more time, I can hit the weights.

EDIT: One other thing I wanted to comment on, have you sugared outside DC? As I said, I have had much more success finding girls I like in Vegas, even though I've only been there on a couple trips vs living in DC. The bell curve is different for different locations, and I think DC is just skewed unfavorably[/QUOTE]I love the honesty of your post! You keep it real. One thing I have finally learned as I have gotten older is not to give people advice unless they ask for it. My dad is always advising and lecturing people, so I learned from him! Do what makes you happy. I had to laugh out loud about the part regarding raw ingredients and cooking because I am the same way! Happy Hunting!

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I bought Pimeyes subscription to try out; it seems to be pretty good.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6317894]

You're not the first person to suggest getting in shape, and I'll say the same thing I've said to others: I work up really long hours frequently, 9 am until 7 PM, then 2 hours for dinner, then work until I go to bed at 12 or 1 am. I'm not about to put more stress on myself by adding working out to that. I hate exercising, it's very stressful for me and I don't get any sort of runner's high or whatever that other people talk about, or any improvement to my mood. It's just miserable.

[/QUOTE]No pussy exists that is worth burning both ends of the candle except for the women that bear your children.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6317894]

I also have this mental thing where I hate my own cooking. I've had someone who knows how to cook stand next to the stove and tell me exactly what ingredients to add and when, and the end product that comes out is something I cannot eat, even though I know it's logically fine. It's something to do with seeing raw ingredients become a finished dish, it just ruins my appetite and makes it taste bad in my mouth.


So, with those things in mind, sure I could invest my money into overcoming those obstacles. Build a home gym. Hire a personal trainer to come over every day to train me. Hire a personal chef to deliver cooked food to me every other day that I just need to microwave. Hire a personal stylist and shopper to go out and buy outfits, design a wardrobe for me. All those put together and I'm probably at close to my SB budget, with no money left over for anything fun.

That will be my life for the next 2 years, working 12 hours a day and eating food from plastic containers, as well as doing pushups with some dude yelling motivational phrases at me. I should be around 180 for might height, so 120 pounds to lose. Then after I lose that weight, I have to go to a plastic surgeon to cut off the loose skin, heal up for another 6-8 months while not gaining any weight even though working out becomes harder.

[/QUOTE]It's really not too much to ask of oneself to trim back on a few hundred calories of food and go for a walk everyday.

I use Factor_75 to deliver healthy food that just requires a reheat. There are others. I'm rarely disappointed in the quality of the food.

I use Stichfix and Stately to deliver 90% of my clothing and accessories. There are others. I'm rarely disappointed in the outfits I receive.

Shit, you are using Seeking to deliver 90% of your vagina, too bad it doesn't come via delivery and with a return bag.

Even dropping 50 lbs between now and 2024 is doable without going as extreme as a bootcamp\PT and personal chef, and you won't be so saggy as to need surgery.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6317894]
After going through that hell, now the 9'sand 10's are going to be all over me, I'll be swimming in model pussy right? Wrong, now I'm just looking like an average dude who keeps fit. They're a dime a dozen at the gym, and none of them date Instagram models. I still have to become a multi millionaire at the minimum, as well as develop a social circle where I can have access to girls like that, and the free time to give them the experiences they date rich men for.
[/QUOTE]Join the club, and while here you'll find that the 7's and 8's are just as satisfying without all the overhead.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6317894]
It's all so far away that it's not my concern now. I'm focused on building my business, and using money to get whatever I can in the sugar world. Once I'm over the hump I'm at now and have a bit more time, I can hit the weights.

[/QUOTE]As an entrepreneur you understand the value of your time, and there exist plenty of ways of making it happen vs making excuses.

Simple lifestyle changes will yield benefits and that goes beyond sugaring. I find my personal productivity increased tremendously when I installed a walking treadmill under my desk, lumbering along at 1. 5 mph while working. My dick is harder now than when heavier, I fuck longer, the quality of poon comes better at a lower ppm, and I generally feel like I'm firing on all cylinders all day everyday. My Test hormones are low so I could go on TRT but then there'd be nothing left for you guys.

Claims to be a college student. Wants $200 for a meet and greet over coffee to "discuss our options" before any intimacy. Offered a nice lunch instead, she insisted on getting paid for a meet and greet. Told her good luck.

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[QUOTE=ChrisCarr;6318824]Shit, you are using Seeking to deliver 90% of your vagina, too bad it doesn't come via delivery and with a return bag.

Even dropping 50 lbs between now and 2024 is doable without going as extreme as a bootcamp\PT and personal chef, and you won't be so saggy as to need surgery.

Simple lifestyle changes will yield benefits and that goes beyond sugaring. I find my personal productivity increased tremendously when I installed a walking treadmill under my desk, lumbering along at 1. 5 mph while working.[/QUOTE]I was going to suggest this. "Working out" would be overkill, but walking on a treadmill can be done while watching a TV show, on a conference call, or even typing on a laptop. Anything to get you up and moving.

[QUOTE=NovaDaddy69;6318923]Claims to be a college student. Wants $200 for a meet and greet over coffee to "discuss our options" before any intimacy. Offered a nice lunch instead, she insisted on getting paid for a meet and greet. Told her good luck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b1a40a13-ccc2-48f0-8a58-95880d5bad2a[/URL][/QUOTE]Tell her to stop watching tick tock.

[QUOTE=NovaDaddy69;6318923]Claims to be a college student. Wants $200 for a meet and greet over coffee to "discuss our options" before any intimacy. Offered a nice lunch instead, she insisted on getting paid for a meet and greet. Told her good luck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b1a40a13-ccc2-48f0-8a58-95880d5bad2a[/URL][/QUOTE]Fuck. She's 21 that's her peak and she is a fat as shut.

These girls are crazy. On reddit the sugarbaby forum have all these chick's trying g to pump each other up like they're getting a whale.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6318165]My long posts were responses about my experience in the scene and give my perspective. I said I disagreed with some things, but at no point did I ask for advice from anyone, nor did I lecture anybody about their lives.

90% of the time I could do like TomFord and when someone posts about a girl, rage about how ugly she is and how the man must be a loser to even want to fuck her. Or when the ever so common comment about allowance comes up and dudes flip out at paying more than 400 PPM, I could lecture them about financial success and how if they didn't settle for mediocrity, then maybe they wouldn't be pinching pennies over pussy.

Instead, I say nothing. When I can, I give my experiences as a man with my circumstances. And in turn, dudes tell me I can't accept reality LOL.[/QUOTE]It's about value. These aren't even worth McDonalds.

Anyone recently used a vanilla gift card on seeking?

Trying to see what the alternatives are to a credit card.

[QUOTE=JonFisher;6320131]Anyone recently used a vanilla gift card on seeking?

Trying to see what the alternatives are to a credit card.[/QUOTE]Last time I tried to use the Vanilla card it didn't work. I find that any card that can be registered with myprepaidbalance (there will be instructions on the back of the card that you can read before you buy it) seems to work.

Curious if I'm too skeptical. One of those "I want her to be real but doubting it" scenarios.

She's attractive IMO. Skepticism triggers: Her private pictures are grainy. That "photo of a photo" look. Worse then her public ones. Hot chicks know how to take quality pictures of themselves. Profile includes ". Or rushing to get my assignments done while working full time. " But her profile notes having a college degree and an occupation already. So if these are school assignments, that makes no sense. Profile is a week old, so unlikely the language is just not updated. Our conversation has no red flags at this stage but has been brief and trivial.

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[QUOTE=JonFisher;6320131]Anyone recently used a vanilla gift card on seeking?

Trying to see what the alternatives are to a credit card.[/QUOTE]Buy a gift card and add it to a Google Pay account (make a new one that your SO does not know about). You can pay using Google Pay.

[QUOTE=SRH59;6321110]Curious if I'm too skeptical. One of those "I want her to be real but doubting it" scenarios.

She's attractive IMO. Skepticism triggers: Her private pictures are grainy. That "photo of a photo" look. Worse then her public ones. Hot chicks know how to take quality pictures of themselves. Profile includes ". Or rushing to get my assignments done while working full time. " But her profile notes having a college degree and an occupation already. So if these are school assignments, that makes no sense. Profile is a week old, so unlikely the language is just not updated. Our conversation has no red flags at this stage but has been brief and trivial.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8340b2b5-02d3-4ba3-997b-fcdc0d2ae899[/URL][/QUOTE]I'd go ahead and ask her these questions. I've tried it a couple of times. Both girls were amazed that I actually read her narrative. Ghosting quickly followed in both cases.

I think she's been around for a while but under another name.