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2 years ago when I was a newbie I wanted to see Melissa3 based on the great reviews that she was getting on here then she disappeared. Recently she has been putting ads back up so I called her and scheduled for her to stop by. She is a nice girl, willing to accomadate and takes direction well. No clock watching, she is not a spinner so if you like girls with some curves then she is worth seeing. SR's can PM me for details!
[QUOTE=Eelectri;1945880]Well as some of you mongers have expressed the facts about donations we have one on the board.
(Aubrey) looking promising but asking for rates from us that shows very different in other sites.
It should be the contrary for this board as it is very exclusive one.
Take a look at Lola / Aubrey / Jessica etc.
[URL]http://classifieds.myredbook.com/classified.php?adid=466436[/URL]
On this board she is asking 1.5 hh and look at the link.
100 for hh wow.
She may be good but as other have said there have been very good providers here with better rates and seperv service.
Just my 2 cents on the subject.
Have fun,
Ee[/QUOTE]Maybe providers come on this board and ask for more in donations because so many of you Joes are willing to over pay like you are desperate or something. Just my two cents. Even in the massage world you mongers post about a weak massage and no extra but still leave a $20 tip. REALLY!
[QUOTE=NedleyMandingo;1949676]2 years ago when I was a newbie I wanted to see Melissa3 based on the great reviews that she was getting on here then she disappeared. Recently she has been putting ads back up so I called her and scheduled for her to stop by. She is a nice girl, willing to accomadate and takes direction well. No clock watching, she is not a spinner so if you like girls with some curves then she is worth seeing. SR's can PM me for details![/QUOTE]Thanks baby I had a great time I look forward to Seein you again soon. Xoxo.
Melissa is a true GFE I'm glad that she is back.
I loved her back in the day and glad to see her here again.
Have to make time to go see her again.
She is just great.
[QUOTE=Eelectri;1950367]Melissa is a true GFE I'm glad that she is back.
I loved her back in the day and glad to see her here again.
Have to make time to go see her again.
She is just great.[/QUOTE]Awww thanks baby I can't wait to see you again xoxo I love that pic.
So is Aubrey also Lola?
That ad was posted on Nov 12,2013 in Cali.
I agree some girls get on here and overprice cause guys pay it.
Look at the PersianHottie, she was HOT and at first her rates were great but then they slowly crept higher.
And these newbies can't outshine the trusted providers on here.
Just my 2 cents worth.
TC69.
[QUOTE=Eelectri;1945880]Well as some of you mongers have expressed the facts about donations we have one on the board.
(Aubrey) looking promising but asking for rates from us that shows very different in other sites.
It should be the contrary for this board as it is very exclusive one.
Take a look at Lola / Aubrey / Jessica etc.
[URL]http://classifieds.myredbook.com/classified.php?adid=466436[/URL]
On this board she is asking 1.5 hh and look at the link.
100 for hh wow.
She may be good but as other have said there have been very good providers here with better rates and seperv service.
Just my 2 cents on the subject.
Have fun,
Ee[/QUOTE]
Ok, so I took a chance when I saw her ad on Backpage for $ for a hh. So I was going to be in the area, so I gave her a go.
There is good and bad here.
First the good.
She has an incredible body, very sweet girl, doesn't smoke, has impeccable hygeine (I have a very sensitive nose and she was lovely), loves to ride, loves to be spanked, very pretty face, great attitude, not a clock watcher, very easy going and easy to work with.
The bad.
Not GFE, no kissing (normally not my thing), no BBBJ, no greek (I think she would be open to that just has never tried, but again not my thing), works at night as a dancer so her schedule is limited.
So in closing if you love having a very hot small girl doing cfs on top of you then she would be your perfect choice. For me if she open her menu to include BBBJ then I would probably become a regular of hers. As is, I am a fan of hers and she was worth the trip!
Stay safe and have fun.
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-aubrey-holidays-ohh-how-you-will-love-them-20/9631474[/URL]
Tried to contact her the other day. Txt a few times and then nothing and I was ready for a date. Not very PurrFectt1 in my book.
EFM.
So I meet up with LilSexyMe69.
She is tiny as tiny gets. Had a great time though. Most everything was offered and she tried her hardest for my second cup but it was not in the cards that day.
Tried to meet up with KaitlynLove, but I had to cancel as something came up. I will get over there one day soon!
EFM.
[QUOTE=Bjceb;1953438]Ok, so I took a chance when I saw her ad on Backpage for $ for a hh. So I was going to be in the area, so I gave her a go.
There is good and bad here.
First the good.
She has an incredible body, very sweet girl, doesn't smoke, has impeccable hygeine (I have a very sensitive nose and she was lovely), loves to ride, loves to be spanked, very pretty face, great attitude, not a clock watcher, very easy going and easy to work with.
The bad.
Not GFE, no kissing (normally not my thing), no BBBJ, no greek (I think she would be open to that just has never tried, but again not my thing), works at night as a dancer so her schedule is limited.
So in closing if you love having a very hot small girl doing cfs on top of you then she would be your perfect choice. For me if she open her menu to include BBBJ then I would probably become a regular of hers. As is, I am a fan of hers and she was worth the trip!
Stay safe and have fun.
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-aubrey-holidays-ohh-how-you-will-love-them-20/9631474[/URL][/QUOTE]Fellow hunters O the trim... Been on the bench but once a monger. Did anyone else notice the rate change?? Holiday special or market adjustment. Down a grant. Cheers J54.
She hiked her rate for the board. Advertises everywhere else for less $.
[QUOTE=Jesse54;1953799]Fellow hunters O the trim... Been on the bench but once a monger. Did anyone else notice the rate change?? Holiday special or market adjustment. Down a grant. Cheers J54.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1950299&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1950299.
Has anyone seen her?
[QUOTE=FlRico;1954067][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1950299&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1950299.
Has anyone seen her?[/QUOTE]I have seen this lady. I will be doing a review on her tomorrow. But you can pm me for some details.
Regards,
SDG
I had the opportunity to see Diamond. She was absolutely the best I've ever had. She was very easy to get a hold of. She is a really cool chick I could of talk to her all night and just hung out. She is pretty much game for anything but Greek which doesn't bother me since that's not my thing. If you get a chance to see her you won't regret it. I think she is leaving to go back home in like a week. Pm me for more details. I hate typing LOL.
[QUOTE=Station41;1954346]I had the opportunity to see Diamond. She was absolutely the best I've ever had. She was very easy to get a hold of. She is a really cool chick I could of talk to her all night and just hung out. She is pretty much game for anything but Greek which doesn't bother me since that's not my thing. If you get a chance to see her you won't regret it. I think she is leaving to go back home in like a week. Pm me for more details. I hate typing LOL.[/QUOTE]Well, you beat me to it, Ace. I haven't seen Diamond in a bit, but I used to see her all the time up here in Jax. She got out of the biz for a while. I concur, Sir. That is some of the best pussy I've ever had, and She's GFE to boot. Just a great girl all around. She is waaaay under valued at this rate, so you better hurry. She posted an ad in the Escort Classified section today I believe. Please be nice to her, boys. She is a keeper and then some. And now that I know she's back in the game, you can bet I'll be trying to get her back up here ASAP!
Needs some help from my fellow mongers... I don't post often as I only have one ATF at a time (and my work makes me difficult to schedule with), but I hope you'll still be willing to help.
About a year ago Katelovet or Pistol Kate got out of the business and I lost touch with her. I know she didn't get along with everyone on here, but those who knew / liked her know how special she was (just a bit outspoken). I noticed a poster on BP that goes by Katie Kate ([URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/katie-kate-23/9500968[/URL]) and thought she looked the same. I didn't get a response from her # yet, but I'd like to know if anyone out there has seen her.
If its not her, or if you have other info for Katelovet I'd really appreciate it. At the very least I'd like to know she's alright (even if she's out of the business). Please PM with info if you can.
Thanks!
Dave
[QUOTE=ItsTheDave1;1956279]Needs some help from my fellow mongers... I don't post often as I only have one ATF at a time (and my work makes me difficult to schedule with), but I hope you'll still be willing to help.
About a year ago Katelovet or Pistol Kate got out of the business and I lost touch with her. I know she didn't get along with everyone on here, but those who knew / liked her know how special she was (just a bit outspoken). I noticed a poster on BP that goes by Katie Kate ([URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/katie-kate-23/9500968[/URL]) and thought she looked the same. I didn't get a response from her # yet, but I'd like to know if anyone out there has seen her.
If its not her, or if you have other info for Katelovet I'd really appreciate it. At the very least I'd like to know she's alright (even if she's out of the business). Please PM with info if you can.
Thanks!
Dave[/QUOTE]I too, was a big fan of Katie Lovett. I spoke with her back in the Spring, and she was doing fine. She had a real job then, but was still willing to see certain clients. I really don't think this new ad is her. Mainly because she was advertising on the higher end sites, and keeping a low profile. It also doesn't look like her body to me.
[QUOTE=ItsTheDave1;1956279]Needs some help from my fellow mongers... I don't post often as I only have one ATF at a time (and my work makes me difficult to schedule with), but I hope you'll still be willing to help.
About a year ago Katelovet or Pistol Kate got out of the business and I lost touch with her. I know she didn't get along with everyone on here, but those who knew / liked her know how special she was (just a bit outspoken). I noticed a poster on BP that goes by Katie Kate ([URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/katie-kate-23/9500968[/URL]) and thought she looked the same. I didn't get a response from her # yet, but I'd like to know if anyone out there has seen her.
If its not her, or if you have other info for Katelovet I'd really appreciate it. At the very least I'd like to know she's alright (even if she's out of the business). Please PM with info if you can.
Thanks!
Dave[/QUOTE]I believe there is some postings from the Daytona area board that states this pic is a fake.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/katie-kate-23/9500968[/URL]
This above is not our nice Katielovet.
She is no longer doing this and the pic is not even close.
Katielovet retired. Last time I saw her was back in January or February.
She retired since and wish her luck.
She was one of my atf's.
Ee.
Did you contact her saying you had seen her before etc? If you did you probably spooked her. Since her ad definitely does not say Kate Lovett.
[QUOTE=ItsTheDave1;1956279]Needs some help from my fellow mongers... I don't post often as I only have one ATF at a time (and my work makes me difficult to schedule with), but I hope you'll still be willing to help.
About a year ago Katelovet or Pistol Kate got out of the business and I lost touch with her. I know she didn't get along with everyone on here, but those who knew / liked her know how special she was (just a bit outspoken). I noticed a poster on BP that goes by Katie Kate ([URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/katie-kate-23/9500968[/URL]) and thought she looked the same. I didn't get a response from her # yet, but I'd like to know if anyone out there has seen her.
If its not her, or if you have other info for Katelovet I'd really appreciate it. At the very least I'd like to know she's alright (even if she's out of the business). Please PM with info if you can.
Thanks!
Dave[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BeachLife1;1956688]I believe there is some postings from the Daytona area board that states this pic is a fake.[/QUOTE] "TinEye Reverse Image Search" and "Google Images" have browser addons for most browsers that yield the answer with a right mouse click. I use both... Also have ones for mobile browsers, I highly recommend them... (Info only)..
Be Safe, Happy Hunting, dvfldv.
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-latina-sweet-and-fun-total-package-5star-mami-22/9221520[/URL]
Anyone know anything about her? I'm thinking of meeting up with her tonight or tomorrow.
Anyone know sasha?
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-latina-sweet-and-fun-total-package-5star-mami-22/9221520[/URL]
Rule #1, Google! The phone number. If you had you would be able to find all the info you need as she is reviewed on ThEotheR site.
C3.
[QUOTE=Jaggerjak;1958876]Anyone know sasha?
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-latina-sweet-and-fun-total-package-5star-mami-22/9221520[/URL][/QUOTE]
I was trying to get into the holiday mood, when I came across Ms Naughty Clause's posting. Seizing the moment, I was hoping it wasn't too late to see if I could still take a fun ride on her POLEher express.
Arrangements were made and a meeting secured for the same day. I was pleasantly greeted with a hug and kisses, which is a great turn-on for me, and a precursor of the delightful pleasures to follow. Sans clothing, I found myself being treated to a wonderful GFE delight. This lovely lady has a smoking hot body and it was my pleasure in devouring it, and yes, taking a fun ride on her POLEher express. The ride was so wild and hot, the twins were relieved of their contents. I'm now looking into obtaining a season pass. Forget Disney, it's the POLEher express for me.
Google her number & there is one review that says she rushes and is not GFE and that they would not repeat.
[QUOTE=Camera3;1959084]Rule #1, Google! The phone number. If you had you would be able to find all the info you need as she is reviewed on ThEotheR site.
C3.[/QUOTE]Very Smooth!
I like this girl already because she doesn't discriminate as quoted, " All ages, sizes, races, and dirty minds welcome. But I especially love black men." It all spills the same color ...
Newbies earn your stripes by TOFTT and report back.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Glen60;1962476]I was trying to get into the holiday mood, when I came across Ms Naughty Clause's posting. Seizing the moment, I was hoping it wasn't too late to see if I could still take a fun ride on her POLEher express.
Arrangements were made and a meeting secured for the same day. I was pleasantly greeted with a hug and kisses, which is a great turn-on for me, and a precursor of the delightful pleasures to follow. Sans clothing, I found myself being treated to a wonderful GFE delight. This lovely lady has a smoking hot body and it was my pleasure in devouring it, and yes, taking a fun ride on her POLEher express. The ride was so wild and hot, the twins were relieved of their contents. I'm now looking into obtaining a season pass. Forget Disney, it's the POLEher express for me.[/QUOTE]I'm so happy you enjoyed yourself, I sure did. You can devour me anytime sweets.
Xoxo,
Savanna
Anybody have dirtytoy number her advertisement post has no contact info.
A word of advice, do some work. So far, you have made three posts and added nothing. Please write some reviews and do some pioneer word -- in other words, TOFTT to prove yourself. I, for one, will share my Rolodex with trusted friends but not total strangers.
I look forward to seeing your first productive post.
C3.
[QUOTE=JaggerJak;1965971]Anybody have dirtytoy number her advertisement post has no contact info.[/QUOTE]
Saw Candy Apple's post and pics. Was very intrigued, especially being a black man.
There were no reviews for her and could not find any intel on her on the intertubes and I was a little cautious. But, the pics made me TOFTT! (especially the middle one).
Glad I did! I dreamt of her and it was one of the better dreams I have had in a while. Seems she's just starting out and believe it or not, by 1:00 am I was the first to dream about her. Bonus.
After exchanging a few calls and texts, I dreamed I arrived at her location. Greeted me in a skimpy sexy outfit, grabbed my hand and led me in the room and kissed me on the cheek. After mutual LE check, we were on our way.
She had asked me what I liked and what turns me on. I told her all the dirty thoughts in my head and I could swear I saw her face light up as I was telling her.
She ain't lying{TCS. Ellipses}she takes direction very well. She paid wet sloppy attention to little man and I dreamt I had here several different ways. I didn't have to tell her what to do{TCS. Ellipses}just moved her where I wanted her and she eagerly adjusted herself. She was into it, moaning, and moving her hips seductively. After a while, I was so turned on, I was ready to pop. Pulled out and she quickly moved her head toward me and I unloaded in her mouth. Then, she looked at me and opened her mouth to show it to me, letting some drip out. I hadn't had a provider do that and it turned me on even more{TCS. Ellipses}after I popped! She was a spitter, but came back and said thank you. Nice dream. Next time, I'm going to dream for an hour.
Body: 7 / 10. She was in her 30's, but she's sexy. Nice legs and grippable ass.
Service: 10/10: Did not feel like a provider. Felt like time with a really freaky girl who likes to please.
Attitude: 10/10: Great attitude.
Stay safe and monger on.
Any info on this girl?
[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-island-vixen-come-fulfill-your-fantasies-28/8929487[/URL]
I wish everyone a very happy New Years I hope you all have the very best time and be safe. Xoxo.
Hey gents, I'm headed your way and need some help to find a few quality providers. Staying at the Peabody / Hyatt. I like all kinds but am partial to Asians and prefer GFE but one thing I don't like is fat asses. I like boobs as much as anyone but won't take big "uns" if they come with a super sized ass; it's just not my thing.
Seniors please PM me with some helpful links and or recommendations.
Thanks in advance and stay safe in 2014.
Daz.
Call her now. Located in Altamonte. She has a very tight small body with the super tits. Text her 774.925.3756 Help her out 120.00 hour or until your happy.
Stay Safe.
[QUOTE=Rufus2104;1973763]Call her now. Located in Altamonte. She has a very tight small body with the super tits. Text her 774.925.3756 Help her out 120.00 hour or until your happy.
Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]I know that some of the guys that saw her had some issues with her and gave her bad reviews. I discussed some of their concerns with her. She understood completely and assured me that she would take immediate corrective action. Keep in mind that she's still learning the ropes of this business and that she's young.
I think she got caught needing gifts very badly at literally, a bad time of the month. The 3 poor reviews on her were for the one main issue of her not mentioning that Aunt Flo was visiting. Yeah, I can see where that would piss a guy off, especially when he's looking at enjoying that extremely, very tight, little "body" of hers.
Don't hold that against her and I believe that she is going to work out to be a great little provider in the long run. I think that the skills are pretty good overall and that she'll get better as she becomes more comfortable with the business. My .02.
[QUOTE=Vino7373;1973766]I know that some of the guys that saw her had some issues with her and gave her bad reviews. I discussed some of their concerns with her. She understood completely and assured me that she would take immediate corrective action. Keep in mind that she's still learning the ropes of this business and that she's young.
I think she got caught needing gifts very badly at literally, a bad time of the month. The 3 poor reviews on her were for the one main issue of her not mentioning that Aunt Flo was visiting. Yeah, I can see where that would piss a guy off, especially when he's looking at enjoying that extremely, very tight, little "body" of hers.
Don't hold that against her and I believe that she is going to work out to be a great little provider in the long run. I think that the skills are pretty good overall and that she'll get better as she becomes more comfortable with the business. My .02.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vino7373;1973766]I know that some of the guys that saw her had some issues with her and gave her bad reviews. I discussed some of their concerns with her. She understood completely and assured me that she would take immediate corrective action. Keep in mind that she's still learning the ropes of this business and that she's young.
I think she got caught needing gifts very badly at literally, a bad time of the month. The 3 poor reviews on her were for the one main issue of her not mentioning that Aunt Flo was visiting. Yeah, I can see where that would piss a guy off, especially when he's looking at enjoying that extremely, very tight, little "body" of hers.
Don't hold that against her and I believe that she is going to work out to be a great little provider in the long run. I think that the skills are pretty good overall and that she'll get better as she becomes more comfortable with the business. My .02.[/QUOTE]Glad you spoke to her and gave your two cents. So nice of you to be so forgiving and being a white knight for her. As for me, my understanding is that she bled all over the monger and when he noticed, he became upset and tried to wash off and found no towels in the bathroom. As he was trying to wash the blood off in the bathroom (and freeking out about it) she began demanding her donation and then physically attacked and assaulted the monger when he rebuffed her request due to the circumstances. As he tried to get on his clothes while wet from washing off in the bathroom with no towels, she called her pimp / boyfriend in the next room and tried to get her pimp / boyfriend to confront the monger and get money from him, in this case blood money since she bled all over the monger. The monger was able to leave just prior to her manager / boyfriend getting in the door. She then called the monger several times saying she was HIV positive (sorry admin. Her words not mine) and said she was glad she bled on and infected him. She also said that her manager / boyfriend got the mongers plate number and she had ways to track him down and was going to harm him. She kept bragging to the monger that she kicked his ass, and punched him in the head and that was just the beginning of what she was going to do to him. She called and threatened the monger for a few days afterwards.
So my two cents says screw her. I do not care how bad things are for you, you NEVER bleed on a monger and then ASSAULT him, threaten to hurt him further and tell him you infected him with a disease. She deserves no help from anyone. She is not "learning the ropes", she is a seasoned vet. No rookie provider physically attacks a monger and calls her pimp / boyfriend to increase the confrontation. She is lucky the monger just wanted to leave, one day she will pull this crap with the wrong monger who is going to get hit by her and turn around and beat the crap out of her.
She deserves no second chances. She is a POS. Everyone has bad days but not when you bleed on a monger, assault him, call him repeatedly for days threatening him, tell him you are positive, try to get your boyfriend / pimp to get involved in the assault and then try to explain it all away as being new and having a bad day. PLEASE, that's not a bad day that's a pattern of dangerous behavior.
So what should we not hold against her and she will correct immediately? Her willingness to bleed on a monger? Her willingness to physically assault a monger? Her willingness to call management to escalate things with a monger? Her threatening a monger with a disease and further assaults? Her harassing and threatening a monger on an extended basis?
Please, she is a seasoned pro that can not and should not be trusted and deserves no more chances.
Potsy thanks for this detailed report. I had this girl on my to do list based on the recommendation. This is why I rarely see providers and never see SW. I just personally don't like the drama. I used to see petite maura but since she's been gone I haven't tried another provider though I am seeing one Friday and will report back. I prefer to work the sugar daddy angle on CL which allows me to pick and the girls are always young college girls that don't recognize their value. Most of the time there is no drama attached. Be safe.
I agree with Potsy, this is a huge red flag (LOL get it? Red flag, red blood) ok my corny jokes end.
Seriously. This is why we should avoid the dopers and this type of girl deserves no help same as that Craigslist lady who claims she needs help.
You want to help these gals? Bring them a application for Burger King and save your money for a well known provider that doesn't need the money for a fix.
What gals I look for? The ones who have kids and I know the money goes to family support not some addiction and offers clean stable environments.
Look at that fat blob with with specials and ring worm or the girls that live in a pig sty, those are indications to run for your life.
[QUOTE=Potsy;1974197]Glad you spoke to her and gave your two cents. So nice of you to be so forgiving and being a white knight for her. As for me, my understanding is that she bled all over the monger and when he noticed, he became upset and tried to wash off and found no towels in the bathroom. As he was trying to wash the blood off in the bathroom (and freeking out about it) she began demanding her donation and then physically attacked and assaulted the monger when he rebuffed her request due to the circumstances. As he tried to get on his clothes while wet from washing off in the bathroom with no towels, she called her pimp / boyfriend in the next room and tried to get her pimp / boyfriend to confront the monger and get money from him, in this case blood money since she bled all over the monger. The monger was able to leave just prior to her manager / boyfriend getting in the door. She then called the monger several times saying she was HIV positive (sorry admin. Her words not mine) and said she was glad she bled on and infected him. She also said that her manager / boyfriend got the mongers plate number and she had ways to track him down and was going to harm him. She kept bragging to the monger that she kicked his ass, and punched him in the head and that was just the beginning of what she was going to do to him. She called and threatened the monger for a few days afterwards.
So my two cents says screw her. I do not care how bad things are for you, you NEVER bleed on a monger and then ASSAULT him, threaten to hurt him further and tell him you infected him with a disease. She deserves no help from anyone. She is not "learning the ropes", she is a seasoned vet. No rookie provider physically attacks a monger and calls her pimp / boyfriend to increase the confrontation. She is lucky the monger just wanted to leave, one day she will pull this crap with the wrong monger who is going to get hit by her and turn around and beat the crap out of her.
She deserves no second chances. She is a POS. Everyone has bad days but not when you bleed on a monger, assault him, call him repeatedly for days threatening him, tell him you are positive, try to get your boyfriend / pimp to get involved in the assault and then try to explain it all away as being new and having a bad day. PLEASE, that's not a bad day that's a pattern of dangerous behavior.
So what should we not hold against her and she will correct immediately? Her willingness to bleed on a monger? Her willingness to physically assault a monger? Her willingness to call management to escalate things with a monger? Her threatening a monger with a disease and further assaults? Her harassing and threatening a monger on an extended basis?
Please, she is a seasoned pro that can not and should not be trusted and deserves no more chances.[/QUOTE]