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[QUOTE=FarFromJaded;2226705]Thanks for pointing that out to me, but I have to respectfully disagree. I don't believe the up charge is excessive! I personally just don't really love to kiss. Don't get me wrong, I have been told that the DFK Was great. But I just typically prefer to the spend the time doing things we both are equally interested in. The excellent skills you previously experienced are as good in a non-GFE, and the kissing is the ONLY thing you have to pay for! My friendly attitude and general demeanor is always that sweet, playful, sexy and attentive girl you've met! I am always non rushed, and love to cuddle / talk etc in any session I'm in. And I don't charge my regulars extra for a GFE session if they'd like it, so I think it ends up being semi fair for everyone. I'm totally worth it![/QUOTE]Back in the first few years of "Internet Hobbying", upselling for GFE was the norm. And even then, rates were much higher. However, at that time, there were no where near the amount of providers posting, and to be honest, if you wanted BBBJ then, you had to find a SW. Internet providers rarely openly offered GFE. This business is all about keeping up with the new trends. Ladies find out about the boards, and think, "If she can do it, I can too. " There is a lot of info that I will not post on these boards because, I've helped out way too many here in Orlando, and they were still careless. Without posting any names, one of the faves on this board has been offering BBFS with little to no upsell for years. Personally, I don't have a problem with kissing some of you guys, but others. I cringe at the thought that you may have enjoyed DATY or DATO with one of these BB providers, and others really just need to brush your yuck mouths.

[QUOTE=PythagorasHP;2229311]Money talks and everyone has a price.

-Pyth.[/QUOTE]There are some things I won't do for any amount of money and I am not the only one. Many have a price, but not everyone.

"Fetishes are welcomed, actually the are encouraged!

This was in her ad all I can say is be prepared if you like things spiced up a bit. Thank you again Ashley and I sure hope things look up for you.

She has incall today until 2, I suggested she joins this site. I don't really have time for this when there is nothing in it for me. Maybe if one of you see her today you can school her about this site, PM me if you need digits!

She truly is a good one. Very safe quiet in call. I saw her again this week and was very pleased with the outcome again. Tall, slinky and sexy!

Of course this was all a dream and I won't remember any of this in the morning.

Grain 56

[QUOTE=NedleyMandingo;2231162]She has incall today until 2, I suggested she joins this site. I don't really have time for this when there is nothing in it for me. Maybe if one of you see her today you can school her about this site, PM me if you need digits![/QUOTE]

Great photography.

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/nikki-28/10553619[/URL]

[QUOTE=GTrac;2229097]I hooked up with my friend Nikki from NYC who is a thick Dominican with a great accent and gives great service. I pounded her nicely and after I showered she let me take some pics since she had just moved in.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustJenna;2229562]Back in the first few years of "Internet Hobbying", upselling for GFE was the norm. And even then, rates were much higher. However, at that time, there were no where near the amount of providers posting, and to be honest, if you wanted BBBJ then, you had to find a SW. Internet providers rarely openly offered GFE. This business is all about keeping up with the new trends. Ladies find out about the boards, and think, "If she can do it, I can too. " There is a lot of info that I will not post on these boards because, I've helped out way too many here in Orlando, and they were still careless. Without posting any names, one of the faves on this board has been offering BBFS with little to no upsell for years. Personally, I don't have a problem with kissing some of you guys, but others. I cringe at the thought that you may have enjoyed DATY or DATO with one of these BB providers, and others really just need to brush your yuck mouths.[/QUOTE]You hit the target Bull eye, Jenna, that is my point. DFK and DATY is not for everyone so, it is better to keep it for you personal choice as provider and do not put in the menu for extra coin.

[QUOTE=Hobby407;2229685]"Fetishes are welcomed, actually the are encouraged!

This was in her ad all I can say is be prepared if you like things spiced up a bit. Thank you again Ashley and I sure hope things look up for you.[/QUOTE]I love getting kinky with you. Until we meet again.

Love to ALL.

XO Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

Thank you very much sweetie for the positive review as for the gentleman who asked for me email please feel free to send me a private message and I will send you my contact info.

I know there are mothers out there that are providers and their daughter that are providers. Are there Mother / DaughterDoubles teams out there?

The #1 item on my bucket list is having a mother / daughter double team pleasure me. This dream would be so erotic.

Any info let's discuss here or PM me.

Play safe but play hard.

Thanks fisherman.

[QUOTE=OliverOil;2229190]Nice safe neighborhood off of 436. Same sexy MILF as before, met me at door in thigh highs and short black skirt like this image. Had a great time and would repeat.

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/well-reviewed-strawberry-blonde-incall-special-today-49/11117832[/URL]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]345667[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]345667[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]345667[/ATTACH].[/QUOTE]She wants a lot of information. Did you provide all of that?

Flyer.

[QUOTE=FlyHigher767;2237700]She wants a lot of information. Did you provide all of that?

Flyer.[/QUOTE]I like the looms of this one. Have communicated via email and does want info but not too bad. I will see her shortly!

KC.

[QUOTE=FlyHigher767;2237700]She wants a lot of information. Did you provide all of that?

Flyer.[/QUOTE]Hi Flyer,

While I understand your concerns about my screening process I need you to understand that I have been escorting since 2001 and have kept myself safe and out of trouble for over 13 years now. Most of the time I have spent in Seattle.

Before coming back to Orlando I was warned about the area being "hot. " While it may seem uncomfortable to supply some of the information that is requested, there is a reason I ask for it. My screening is relatively painless and the information is not kept once the screening process is complete.

I also accept emails with basic information of just your first name, your age, and the names and contact information of reputable escorts you have seen in the past. Looking at some of the well established girls here in Orlando, it seems that they also ask for this basic information as well.

I am sorry you feel that I am being intrusive, but it is for my safety, and after all, at the end of the day the only person I have to live with is myself. And I like to arrive home without drama or incident.

Have a wonderful weekend!

Love,

Lee.

UTR (Elena) came to visit me today for the second time. Had a good time with her, full GFE spinner type girl. I think she is still looking for a few more regulars if any mongers are interested. Must have some positive reviews & references from known local providers in order to get UTR info.

Thank's Nedley for hooking me up.

Bottoms Up! & Having Fun!
Jazak


Oop's, thought I was posting this in the positive escort section. Guess I'll post it there to.

[QUOTE=FlyHigher767;2237700]She wants a lot of information. Did you provide all of that?

Flyer.[/QUOTE]I did, saw her and had a great dream.

[QUOTE=KingCasanova;2237730]I like the looms of this one. Have communicated via email and does want info but not too bad. I will see her shortly!

KC.[/QUOTE]Saw her before she went to Seattle and she is on my to do list. Quality fun.

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/you-know-what-day-it-is-hump-day-lets-make-it-a-good-one-24/11344811[/URL]

I noticed Katie Lovet has returned. Anyone seen her? Does she provide the same good service as she did when she was getting great reviews a couple years back? Hope to see her within a week or 2!

HI Nedley, I heard Elena also does out calls? Either way, would you share her digits w / me.

Thanks Just Ron.

[QUOTE=NedleyMandingo;2231162]She has incall today until 2, I suggested she joins this site. I don't really have time for this when there is nothing in it for me. Maybe if one of you see her today you can school her about this site, PM me if you need digits![/QUOTE]

Info needed on a provider who is 30-40 blonde used to be on the board.

Sweet girl long red hair fun to play covered FS 125 h kisses daty she looking for help this week incall /8-4 or might do out if not to far do drive, so if you have her info contact her for some fun.

Tex Michelle today, to hopefully hook up in a day or two. I know she is a cautious. So am I. I have heard she is a hard hookup. Even offered to take her out to lunch. Pay the bill, pay for her time, in a place she was comfortable with. Told her she was worth a date to start out. (that's what I heard from you guys). NO STRINGS! We both walk away. She blew me off.

What did I do wrong? Please educate. New to this.

[QUOTE=HDBagger;2248599]Tex Michelle today, to hopefully hook up in a day or two. I know she is a cautious. So am I. I have heard she is a hard hookup. Even offered to take her out to lunch. Pay the bill, pay for her time, in a place she was comfortable with. Told her she was worth a date to start out. (that's what I heard from you guys). NO STRINGS! We both walk away. She blew me off.

What did I do wrong? Please educate. New to this.[/QUOTE]Who knows?? Something you text?? Said?? Maybe she picked up on nervous energy?? Caught a bad vibe or gut feeling?? Not trying to make excuses for her just saying a couple of models I know have told me if they feel something off always better to err on the side of caution. Shoot a couple of months ago I was trying to set something up with a new to me person. Tried to get a menu idea asked if two cups of coffee ok with breakfast?? She told me I was asking too many questions. Not like I was asking CBJ or BBBJ. Take another swing. Communication is always the key. C3 be sure to roll out the welcome mat! LOL. At least he did not post a link asking for help or a UTR #. Michele as a first dream. I predict an addiction to poon. Cheers J54.

[QUOTE=HDBagger;2248599]Tex Michelle today, to hopefully [HIGHLIGHT]hook up[/HIGHLIGHT] in a day or two. I know she is a cautious. So am I. I have heard she is a hard hookup. Even offered to take her out to lunch. Pay the bill, pay for her time, in a place she was comfortable with. Told her she was worth a date to start out. (that's what I heard from you guys). NO STRINGS! We both walk away. She blew me off.

What did I do wrong? Please educate. New to this.[/QUOTE]The term "hook up" usually implies sex. So if you used those actual words in your text to her, she may have cut off communication for just that alone.

HD,

OK Jesse, here it is.

First, welcome to our little neighborhood. I hope you become an active member, get laid a lot and give us all lots of valuable intel.

Now, about Michele. You did nothing wrong. But it is up to a SP whether to see you or not and there are always lots of variables. Is she busy? Is she out of town? Is Ms. Flow visiting? Is she tired? Is she sick? Does she just not like you because she thinks you are an ass hole? Or a thousand other things? You aren't shopping for a shirt. There are unpredictable humans involved.

One thing I believe in is when you are going to try to visit a SP make a list of at least four or five you would like to see. Start with #1 and work your way through. Make sure that #4 or #5 is a sure thing. You may not be able to always visit your first choice but there is nothing more frustrating that being all dressed up with nowhere to go.

Just sayin'.

C3.

[QUOTE=HDBagger;2248599]Tex Michelle today, to hopefully hook up in a day or two. I know she is a cautious. So am I. I have heard she is a hard hookup. Even offered to take her out to lunch. Pay the bill, pay for her time, in a place she was comfortable with. Told her she was worth a date to start out. (that's what I heard from you guys). NO STRINGS! We both walk away. She blew me off.

What did I do wrong? Please educate. New to this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HDBagger;2248599]Tex Michelle today, to hopefully hook up in a day or two. I know she is a cautious. So am I. I have heard she is a hard hookup. Even offered to take her out to lunch. Pay the bill, pay for her time, in a place she was comfortable with. Told her she was worth a date to start out. (that's what I heard from you guys). NO STRINGS! We both walk away. She blew me off.

What did I do wrong? Please educate. New to this.[/QUOTE]From what you said, it seems you sent a lot of info her way, from a date, to you paying for it, to the fact she is worth it all. Keep it simple on the texts, especially if you have never met her. Too much make some people nervous, as it may sound as icing for bait. Try again with less and you will see success.

[QUOTE=WilliamMstrs;2248847]From what you said, it seems you sent a lot of info her way, from a date, to you paying for it, to the fact she is worth it all. Keep it simple on the texts, especially if you have never met her. Too much make some people nervous, as it may sound as icing for bait. Try again with less and you will see success.[/QUOTE]I would agree with the "too much" She does not like to go out of her comfort zone, specially with a first timer. Once you get to know her she is a really nice girl.

[QUOTE=HDBagger;2248599] What did I do wrong? Please educate. New to this.[/QUOTE]I tried to connect with her the last time she posted, followed the instructions, provided references etc. And sat back and got no reply. OK I have being doing this for a while and I figured it is best to be with someone that wants to be with you than someone on the fence. I waited few hours then moved on. Here is a question if one of your referances is not on the SP like list do you think that is ground for disqualification. I hope we do not get cliquish in this community.

Thanks to all. You all have some great advice.

HD.

[QUOTE=FloridaSun;2248888]I tried to connect with her the last time she posted, followed the instructions, provided references etc. And sat back and got no reply. OK I have being doing this for a while and I figured it is best to be with someone that wants to be with you than someone on the fence. I waited few hours then moved on. Here is a question if one of your referances is not on the SP like list do you think that is ground for disqualification. I hope we do not get cliquish in this community.[/QUOTE]It could happen, after all there is the human element involved, but it shouldn't as the issue is with the provider and not the monger. I can see it happening if there is a health issue involved. Just remember that they choose who to see and if that is the case, then so be it, try one more time and if no dice, move on.

Well I have watched reruns of the Beverly Hillbillies for a bit. Just never had the chance to get in on any "activities" being talked about around the cement pond. Thanks Jethrow for the hookup. After an initial glitch with digits she responded in a timely manner. I agree with Jethrow description over in classified ads discussion thread. Red hair down almost to her ass which she is ok with light tugs during the dream. Cat like green eyes which stay open while going thru the motions. Thank goodness lighting at Geneva is poor. Soft skin with some ink. Nothing obnoxious like on her face. Pretty tits a little more than my hands could cover. Seems drug / drama free can carry a conversation. She was running late however informed me about circumstances so I was OK. My first trip to Geneva. $25 no I'd needed, no need to checkout. Far from a resort. Safe Notell enough said. Got comfortable she put those Red locks in a ponytail before I knew it she had a mouthful. She takes directions well. I do not think I had to tell her or ask for much. Mish for a few, pulled out little tap on the leg she spun right over for K9. Back to Mish asked about options for the "money shot". Off with the hat gave her a shot of vitamin "J". Cleaned up cuddled up for a few minutes small talk about life in general. Just looking into her eyes JR came back to life. Covered up for some CG, various Mish, edge of bed, ect. Off with the hat for another dose of vitamin "J". We dressed, hug kiss, almost couple of tears on the goodbye. Always nerves on a first visit. IMHO she is a cute gal just trying to make a few dollars. Not a clock watcher. Halloween is close. If you go see her she likes chocolate maybe a Butterfingers candy bar. Def aims to please. It is not my place to share contact info. Please request from the Beverly Hillbillies star. Donation requested was $. Gave her a little more. Safe travels Jesse.

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[QUOTE=Jesse54;2250247]Well I have watched reruns of the Beverly Hillbillies for a bit. Just never had the chance to get in on any "activities" being talked about around the cement pond. Thanks Jethrow for the hookup. After an initial glitch with digits she responded in a timely manner. I agree with Jethrow description over in classified ads discussion thread. Red hair down almost to her ass which she is ok with light tugs during the dream. Cat like green eyes which stay open while going thru the motions. Thank goodness lighting at Geneva is poor. Soft skin with some ink. Nothing obnoxious like on her face. Pretty tits a little more than my hands could cover. Seems drug / drama free can carry a conversation. She was running late however informed me about circumstances so I was OK. My first trip to Geneva. $25 no I'd needed, no need to checkout. Far from a resort. Safe Notell enough said. Got comfortable she put those Red locks in a ponytail before I knew it she had a mouthful. She takes directions well. I do not think I had to tell her or ask for much. Mish for a few, pulled out little tap on the leg she spun right over for K9. Back to Mish asked about options for the "money shot". Off with the hat gave her a shot of vitamin "J". Cleaned up cuddled up for a few minutes small talk about life in general. Just looking into her eyes JR came back to life. Covered up for some CG, various Mish, edge of bed, ect. Off with the hat for another dose of vitamin "J". We dressed, hug kiss, almost couple of tears on the goodbye. Always nerves on a first visit. IMHO she is a cute gal just trying to make a few dollars. Not a clock watcher. Halloween is close. If you go see her she likes chocolate maybe a Butterfingers candy bar. Def aims to please. It is not my place to share contact info. Please request from the Beverly Hillbillies star. Donation requested was $. Gave her a little more. Safe travels Jesse.[/QUOTE]Does she post on backpage?

[QUOTE=Jesse54;2250247]Well I have watched reruns of the Beverly Hillbillies for a bit. Just never had the chance to get in on any "activities" being talked about around the cement pond. Thanks Jethrow for the hookup. After an initial glitch with digits she responded in a timely manner. I agree with Jethrow description over in classified ads discussion thread. Red hair down almost to her ass which she is ok with light tugs during the dream. Cat like green eyes which stay open while going thru the motions. Thank goodness lighting at Geneva is poor. Soft skin with some ink. Nothing obnoxious like on her face. Pretty tits a little more than my hands could cover. Seems drug / drama free can carry a conversation. She was running late however informed me about circumstances so I was OK. My first trip to Geneva. $25 no I'd needed, no need to checkout. Far from a resort. Safe Notell enough said. Got comfortable she put those Red locks in a ponytail before I knew it she had a mouthful. She takes directions well. I do not think I had to tell her or ask for much. Mish for a few, pulled out little tap on the leg she spun right over for K9. Back to Mish asked about options for the "money shot". Off with the hat gave her a shot of vitamin "J". Cleaned up cuddled up for a few minutes small talk about life in general. Just looking into her eyes JR came back to life. Covered up for some CG, various Mish, edge of bed, ect. Off with the hat for another dose of vitamin "J". We dressed, hug kiss, almost couple of tears on the goodbye. Always nerves on a first visit. IMHO she is a cute gal just trying to make a few dollars. Not a clock watcher. Halloween is close. If you go see her she likes chocolate maybe a Butterfingers candy bar. Def aims to please. It is not my place to share contact info. Please request from the Beverly Hillbillies star. Donation requested was $. Gave her a little more. Safe travels Jesse.[/QUOTE]Do you have a way to contact?

She took down her Backpage ad, but found this one cached. A2, let me know if this is not acceptable. I do not think it counts as a competitor.

[URL]http://escortprofile.xxx/407-873-6546/?pid=11297701[/URL]

Setup was standard 2 call. Location was clean hotel in Lake Mary, well visited location for many SM, I'm sure. Greeted at the door by a curvy MILF type, long curly dark hair, several large tattoos, squeezed into a tight black dress with stockings and fuck me heels. Oh, and a set of tig ol' bitties.

Moment I walked in and she kissed me, I knew this was going to be a great hour. Instant chemistry between us. Full GFE. Only thing not allowed was CIM, but she was okay spraying it anywhere else. Incredibly sexy and fun woman. Didn't ask about greek, not my thing. Donation was $. 8 for the hour, and worth every dime. Left exhausted and smiling ear to ear.

Appears to post infrequently. Pictures are accurate.

TM,

Yes, we have a way to contact her and nope, she isn't on BP.

Here is the issue. She want's to remain UTR, meaning, she doesn't want her digits shared with the whole world. So, to get those precious digits you need to have written some good, verifiable reviews, which you haven't, and given lots of good intel, which you also haven't. I am not saying you aren't well on your way. You just aren't there, yet. We don't know if you are real or LE or what? A good fast way to get there is to date a few more ladies and write some more reviews, and a few of those should be from our favorite ladies that advertise here. Who knows? They may have so much fun that they let the rest of us know you are a rock star and you immediately go to the head of the class.

Play safe and write some reviews.

C3.

[QUOTE=Tiremm;2250385]Do you have a way to contact?[/QUOTE]

You are solo sweet, thank you for such a touching review. I had a good time and I'm really glad you enjoyed yourself. Feel free to contact me anytime.

Some thoughts from my limited experience in this wonderful hobby we have. Far better than stamp collecting.

First of all, if I am reading this correctly, it seems you called this famous SP who has stellar reviews but is also known to not always reply to people and even occasionally stand up some guys, and then you waited a few hours before moving on? Damn. I figure five minutes is enough of a wait. My time is precious and if she doesn't get back to me in five then I work my way down the list. We have three ladies that advertise regularly on this forum that could be sisters in that young blonde spinner department and I think I could find another few if I felt I needed to. Move along, already. You're not in high school and she ain't the captain of the cheerleader squad. You aren't asking her to the prom.

For the lady in question just text her and if she responds then go from there. And if she doesn't then move along. She is popular which means she can be busy. You keep trying and you will score, one day. She is worth it, but she isn't the only lady that is worth it.

My take on references. I travel a bit and just got asked to give references before meeting a lady in a large mid-west city. Easy. I gave the name, digits and where to find THEIR reviews, especially reviews I wrote. When I first started in the hobby, after fucking a couple of ladies I had a couple of references. The more I played the more options I had for references. I have no idea if these ladies call and check these references but if they do I think most would say nice things about me.

Cliques? Really? Come on. Even the guys and gals I don't particularly care for I get along with and trust with my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. It is about pussy, not personality. I know, if you read the Rat Trap you see the ugly side, but even there it isn't about cliques or posse's. That is, unless you make it so. Even the guys and gals that have been banished I shared intel and gave honest reviews of. Are there guys I trust more than others? You bet. Are there guys I am more easily willing to share closely held intel? Damn straight. You want to be one of them? Take a few for the team and write some reviews. Get ripped off. Write a review. Find the holy grail. Write a review. Build your creds. Dude, we will welcome you with open arms. We just won't let you peak at our collective Rolodex for a while.

Just sayin'.

C3.

[QUOTE=FloridaSun;2248888]I tried to connect with her the last time she posted, followed the instructions, provided references etc. And sat back and got no reply. OK I have being doing this for a while and I figured it is best to be with someone that wants to be with you than someone on the fence. I waited few hours then moved on. Here is a question if one of your referances is not on the SP like list do you think that is ground for disqualification. I hope we do not get cliquish in this community.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Camera3;2250855]Some thoughts from my limited experience in this wonderful hobby we have.C3.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your thoughts. I have been in the hobby for about fourt years and I have seen my share. Just a quick clarification this was in response to another post and waiting few hours for third party communication is reasonable in my opinion. And yes I am far from being in high school. The cliquish remark was about the SP and not the men.

The business of referances has gotten out of hand in my opinion. Many gentlemen are not making connections with SP that would love to see them because of this phenomena that did not exist more than ten years ago.

Our market is what it is because over active LE that scare good girls and bring in pimps and violent criminals, sad but true. Also any gentleman of stature would rather stay away.

I save my play to my trusted circle and when I go out of town and kow what to expect. And I strongly disagree with the behavior of some women who are not professional in their handling of the business, now they think it is high school.

So client calls provider over.

Provide shows up, this is there 5th encounter. Agreed donation is exchanged. However, provider enjoys herself so much that she declines donation? Client still enforces she take it for gas / lunch and whatever she needs. She sadly takes it.

Should a client feel bad? Was something done wrong? In eyes of the client, he didn't mean to hurt her feelings.

I have to say, hearing this type of story. I felt bad for the client, who misunderstood her and maybe wanted more from him outside of client / provider and perhaps. Friendship? Lmk your 2 cents all.

TRowe. You may recall my UTR that I came across last month (lost my burner BTW, in case you were wondering), well she and I had the same issue. First time was phenomenal, but still, just an exchange. Second time, was even better, only this time she declined any assistance. Here's where I went the other direction. We had a 3rd and 4th meet up, with each one getting better and better before it finally occurred to me that this just wasn't a good idea. I was noticing an attachment, and so was she (understandably so, considering how well we connected) and we both finally came to the mutual agreement that we were just too dangerous for each other.

I think you did the right thing on insisting to keep the relationship strictly professional, unless of course, you wanted more than that.

[QUOTE=TRowePrice;2257523]So client calls provider over.

Provide shows up, this is there 5th encounter. Agreed donation is exchanged. However, provider enjoys herself so much that she declines donation? Client still enforces she take it for gas / lunch and whatever she needs. She sadly takes it.

Should a client feel bad? Was something done wrong? In eyes of the client, he didn't mean to hurt her feelings.

I have to say, hearing this type of story. I felt bad for the client, who misunderstood her and maybe wanted more from him outside of client / provider and perhaps. Friendship? Lmk your 2 cents all.[/QUOTE]