Hey anything going on Friday afternoon at 15th?
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Hey anything going on Friday afternoon at 15th?
[QUOTE=Bigboy5000]Could'nt get there but would someone tell me what specal guests were.[/QUOTE]
They had Femcar as one and Nancy didn't show and also some other gals and a few couples for the Melrose party.... All in all was a good showing I was told by a friend who was there.
peace
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[QUOTE=Shebahubby]Nothing Happened as we are going to try to arrange a party at Melrose for February around Valentines. We are dong a party at a Big house in Chicago for New years eve, December 31 which is a Wednesday. You can email me at my yahoo email for that informataion and we too will have special guests lol.... several of them not just two.... Cost is no differetn than our Meet & Greet Parties .... Single male:$70, Couples:$50, Single Females: $20. The only difference is that, we are not allowing walkins because its a 8,000 sq foot house in chicago and not a ABS/Spa/Private Party room. You must have a RSVP in to attend and present a Ticket that will be sent to you a few days before the party.[/QUOTE]
For a guy that is quick to threaten a copyright lawsuit, you sure aren't up on pandering and prostitution laws...you can use whatever words you want, but this is still sex for $.
Rub, I think you're a lil confused:
Prostitution is defined as engagement in sexual conduct for money or other considerations.
Pandering which means to procure another person for the purpose of prostitution for money or other considerations.
There are no prostitutes involved in this. They are Swingers and/or S L U T S. The women are there for their own personal pleasure, and ours, NOT for PAY.
He's not providing the women. As you can see by the pricing, EVERYONE pays to get in. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE YOU WILL GET SEX.
(I know, i've gone to one of his parties, paid $70, and got NO SEX. :( )
With a prostitute, $$$+ (Chicago Escort Price) = SEX
[QUOTE=Rub & Tugged]For a guy that is quick to threaten a copyright lawsuit, you sure aren't up on pandering and prostitution laws...you can use whatever words you want, but this is still sex for $.[/QUOTE]LOL i guess she got tired of Joe The Pimp Owner at Melrose getting a cut of her action. Her last party had around 130 people. Lets guess she gets that many again. Now low ball at the $ 20 price comes to $2600.
And the high ball price of $70 comes to $ 9100
Of course they're not all women and they are not all single guys so splitting the difference maybe $ 5850?
Not a bad night for a over weight middle age prostitute. You go girl. Take these fools for their $70. I'm sure standing in line for you is worth it to them. Meanwhile i'm going to look up the pandering & prostitution laws i might find something interesting. Hey look is that your picture next to prostitute in the dictionary?
Thanks for the inspiration Rub&Tugged.
[QUOTE=Rub & Tugged]For a guy that is quick to threaten a copyright lawsuit, you sure aren't up on pandering and prostitution laws...you can use whatever words you want, but this is still sex for $.[/QUOTE]I'm not a lawyer, cop or whatever, but I think it's a party for $ and nothing more. If sex happens to happen between adults, then so be it.
[QUOTE=Rub & Tugged]For a guy that is quick to threaten a copyright lawsuit, you sure aren't up on pandering and prostitution laws...you can use whatever words you want, but this is still sex for $.[/QUOTE]
Your paying for the club and the party..... look around on the web as many "parties" are on that night and all you have to pay to get in. I suppose your not coming lol. And those are your words not mine!!!
[QUOTE=Shebahubby]Your paying for the club and the party..... look around on the web as many "parties" are on that night and all you have to pay to get in. I suppose your not coming lol. And those are your words not mine!!![/QUOTE]
When I read the original prostitution/pandering comment, my first thought was "that charge would never stick". I still believe that, but reading some of the follow-up comments got me wondering (funny how my mind wanders more often as I get older). Anyway, you know those BS "disclaimers" you see on some escort/cl ads that say something to the effect of "the fee is for my time only, what ever else happens is between two consenting adults, blah blah blah"? I have heard repeatedly that those disclaimers seldom, if ever, stand up in court since the prevailing legal opionion is if money changes hands and sex occurs that is prostitution, period, end of discussion. Now I may be (and probably am) comparing apples to oranges, but why would the disclaimer the theater often gives out of "the price is for admission only, nothing else is guaranteed" be much different? If you read some of the theater owner/management's post regarding thier parties, MNF events, etc sex is surely implied the same as it is in the escort ads. Granted the ladies at the theater aren't paid for their services (and that is probably the big difference), but money still changes hands (patron to theater) and no matter what anyone says the expectation (or at least the earnest hope) of sex is there when most guys pay it.
BTW, this is not meant to stir up trouble, pile on the "theater haters" bandwagon, or single out anyone. It is just a random thought I would like others POV on.
If you read some of the theater owner/management's post regarding thier parties, MNF events, etc sex is surely implied the same as it is in the escort ads. Granted the ladies at the theater aren't paid for their services (and that is probably the big difference), but money still changes hands (patron to theater) and no matter what anyone says the expectation (or at least the earnest hope) of sex is there when most guys pay it.
Actually they are paid. Especially when they throw a party. You can still get into the theater for $20 during a party. But if you want to be AT THE PARTY its around $70. The pimp store owner isn't getting all of it. The prostitute throwing the party is getting some of that money too. It is what it is. You are totally right about as long as money exchanges hands and sex occurs its prostitution. That bullshit about sex wasn't guaranteed will never fly in court. That's like the SW saying it was a donation. It never works in court.
Well as someone who did go to law school, I will educate you. A private party is that “private”, it is not the same as a SW. Do you goofs really want to spoil the fun for everyone else?
Why don’t you haters bring a woman to the 15th and let’s all have some fun and quit worrying about crap that is not real.
The only thing that is real is that the complainers are not bringing any women to the 15th.
There is a case in Illinois (19 Ill Dec 262) where the undercover officers bought bottles of soda at a place for $149 each. Guess what, a chick shortly thereafter decided she was horny and wanted to bone the cops, no mention of cash or anything.... Guess what...prostitution.
There have been multiple other tries.... i.e. buy a pen/ticket at the door of the house and get access to horny girls inside...what have you... it never holds up, its always prostitution.... I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say I have anything against it, but if you think disclaimer language protects you or some type of word play protects you, you are living in a fantasy world.
Now along prostitution lines, Tina(also goes by Casey) working at Louis D's is offering her phone number for take out.
[QUOTE=Jacbnimbie]LOL i guess she got tired of Joe The Pimp Owner at Melrose getting a cut of her action. Her last party had around 130 people. Lets guess she gets that many again. Now low ball at the $ 20 price comes to $2600
And the high ball price of $70 comes to $ 9100
Of course they're not all women and they are not all single guys so splitting the difference maybe $ 5850?
Not a bad night for a over weight middle age prostitute. You go girl. Take these fools for their $70. I'm sure standing in line for you is worth it to them. Meanwhile i'm going to look up the pandering & prostitution laws i might find something interesting. Hey look is that your picture next to prostitute in the dictionary?
Thanks for the inspiration Rub&Tugged.[/QUOTE]
First this is not Sheba but her husband and she doesn't read this post at all. Second isn't there a rule on this site about bashing and or flaming. she is not a prostitute and has never taken money for sex ever. ****.... yes ...... Oh and it would be nice to make that kind of money lol for sure..... I / we never have for hosting these parties... but I suppose you don't understand "overhead". Oh and go ahead and look up "Pandering & Prostitution Laws" as Our parties/ or Gals don't fall into that explanation of the law! (already did my homework for people like you).
You seem to pop up with your nonsense everywhere..... your like a pesky fly that needs to be swatted. And you seem to target Sheba even when posts that are made have nothing to do with her at all. I hope they remove you from this site as well. But until they do read the rules about "Flaming & Offensive posts".
Disclaimer for what is worth (less): I am not a lawyer.
I do have concerns that the dynamics at 15th and the subsequent spin-off entrepreneurial spawn that has shifted from "let's all get together and play" to "lets all get together and play and I'll supply the women for a fee and toss in some pizza and a big screen tv. "
I believe what we have now is a real prescription for a prostitution bust. Lets not kid each other. Some of these women and not doing this as an act of benevolence. I know for a fact one that one of the higher profile female headliners is a fairly highly paid hooker. I'm sure that isn’t headline news to you guys or to 15th. Let me be clear. Being a hooker does not make her a bad person! In fact, she is a very nice person. Also, I don’t know of her EVER charging any of the patrons when she has played at the theater. But, she is a headliner-type draw for 15th and my gut instinct tells me she may receive some sort of honorarium to attend. NO PROOF, just my own suspicion.
Next the parties that have spun off by others that have gained some 15th Avenue name recognition are also troubling. Not for their intent or attendees, but for how they are being organized. In the old days, you would hear about a party and show up and pay cash, do your business and leave. No names, no paper trail. Now, as we leverage the technology of the internet, there are electronic RSVP’s and the real kicker, one entrepreneur is using PAYPAL transactions to charge admission / "cover expenses. " Hello? Evidence? Electronic Paper trail? Personally, I wouldn’t touch one of those parties myself simply because of the possibility of a bust and the evidence that has been committed to cyberspace. I just wouldn’t want any type of electronic trail pointing back to me.
I will continue to go to 15th as I have done in the past and enjoy it. But I will not go to any of the parties due to my own legal concerns. And before I get the expected "we aren’t doing anything illegal responses, " I personally don’t care to risk it for my usual 30 seconds (on a good night) of sex LOL. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck. It just might be a duck and there might be probable cause for LEO to take a VERY close look at the duck. Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Shebahubby]First this is not Sheba but her husband and she doesn't read this post at all. Second isn't there a rule on this site about bashing and or flaming. she is not a prostitute and has never taken money for sex ever. ****.... yes ...... Oh and it would be nice to make that kind of money lol for sure..... I / we never have for hosting these parties... but I suppose you don't understand "overhead". Oh and go ahead and look up "Pandering & Prostitution Laws" as Our parties/ or Gals don't fall into that explanation of the law! (already did my homework for people like you).
You seem to pop up with your nonsense everywhere..... your like a pesky fly that needs to be swatted. And you seem to target Sheba even when posts that are made have nothing to do with her at all. I hope they remove you from this site as well. But until they do read the rules about "Flaming & Offensive posts".[/QUOTE]Look around I'm not the only one talking about it. In fact someone else mentioned the pandering & prostitution item. I thought it was a great idea that needed looking into. I guess you missed his post or is it just me you like to harass? I didn't even mention you guys by name. I could have been talking about anyone who had a party there. It must piss you off that you don't call the shots in here. You don't get to ban people in here. But considering that YOU two seem to be the center of all this maybe you two should get banned so we mongers can get back to what we do best. It gets boring reading all your drama posts. Your party couldn't have been all that much fun. Maybe that's why you're taking your prostitution business to a house/motel? Like Rub&Tugged said if you accept money its prostitution. Don't matter the amount. LOL I still laugh how you blame it all on me when others posted about it too. You're a real trip.
Can we ban this fat fuck troll Shebahusband loser?
First he and his fat wife ruin the bookstore because of greed and jealousy and know he is ruining this forum.
Go pimp out your wife and stay the fuck out of this forum with your tired bullshit!