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I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?
[QUOTE=Lono73;4569086]I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?[/QUOTE]The girls first off are tested frequently, most of the group is the same way at least the regular ones. Not a perfect system but we haven't had a group incident or you would have heard about it. Not everyone including the girls do bfs at these either. To each their own as about a quarter of the guys do not do bfs at these and some of the girls do not do bfs. Everyone has their line in the sand and we all respect that. There has been accusations about girls before and they got tested with twenty four hours, none has come back where we had to set them out. Its taken very seriously being it can be the kiss of death to these types of events. Hope that answered your question.
[QUOTE=Lono73;4569086]I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?[/QUOTE]100% straight gamble. As a multi-year lurker and one party attendee, I personally think you guys are crazy going BB while in the next breath complaining about pros and drug addicts. Esp going home to a wife. My party was covered and I still rushed to my OBGYN for a full panel. This is why uncovered with me will always be a no no. Good luck gentlemen!
[QUOTE=Lono73;4569086]I have a question, how do guys know the girls / guys (at GB's) are clean when you're with someone BBBJ / BBFS? I know you can get tested but most of the stuff has an incubation period and you can't guarantee they haven't been with anyone between the test and being with you? Is it a straight gamble or is there another way I'm not familiar with?[/QUOTE]Get ready for crickets.
I've been on Truvada since for ever and I've advised mongers to get on it and I've never had a response.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;4569465]Get ready for crickets.
I've been on Truvada since for ever and I've advised mongers to get on it and I've never had a response.[/QUOTE]What is Truvada?
[QUOTE=PhilMe143;4570154]What is Truvada?[/QUOTE]Truvada is a brand-name prescription medication that's used for treating HIV infection. It's also used for preventing HIV infection in people who have a high risk of getting HIV. This use, in which the treatment is given before the person may be exposed to HIV, is called pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP).
More common side effects.
The more common side effects of Truvada include:
* fatigue.
* depression.
* nausea.
* vomiting.
* diarrhea.
* dizziness.
* respiratory infections.
* sinus infection.
* rash.
* headache.
* trouble sleeping.
* sore throat.
* high cholesterol.
Serious side effects can include:
* bone loss.
* immune reconstitution syndrome.
* kidney problems.
* lactic acidosis.
* liver problems.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;4569465]Get ready for crickets.
I've been on Truvada since for ever and I've advised mongers to get on it and I've never had a response.[/QUOTE]Super good advice. Basically in plain English the drug. If you have HIV can prevent it's spread. If you DO NOT have HIV it will block you from getting it! The patent for the drug is expiring a year early and in Sept 2020 1 company will sell generic version of it in the US. Then later more companies will follow.
It is my opinion that when the drug becomes super cheap ala a few dollars daily that this could wipe off HIV if we can get everyone on board then no one could transmit it or receive it!
I'm not currently taking it when the generic is available I'm looking into it!
Kudos for bringing this up super good shit!
[QUOTE=Lookinatl;4570738]Super good advice. Basically in plain English the drug. If you have HIV can prevent it's spread. If you DO NOT have HIV it will block you from getting it! The patent for the drug is expiring a year early and in Sept 2020 1 company will sell generic version of it in the US. Then later more companies will follow.
It is my opinion that when the drug becomes super cheap ala a few dollars daily that this could wipe off HIV if we can get everyone on board then no one could transmit it or receive it!
I'm not currently taking it when the generic is available I'm looking into it!
Kudos for bringing this up super good shit![/QUOTE]Well, the effectiveness to prevent HIV infection for men is around 90%. A study for women showed a much less success rate. I also read one medical study that found if you acquired HIV while using Truvada, a different cocktails of meds would treat more effectively, something about viral tolerance.
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4570218]Truvada is a brand-name prescription medication that's used for treating HIV infection. It's also used for preventing HIV infection in people who have a high risk of getting HIV. This use, in which the treatment is given before the person may be exposed to HIV, is called pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP).
[/QUOTE]Caveat: If you are very paranoid about catching HIV, then get on PrEP.
But for straight, non-intravenous drug using males, the risk of contracting HIV is very low. The risk of getting HIV from barebacking an HIV positive woman through PIV (penis in vagina) sex is 1 in 10,000 according to the CDC. Meaning that if you go bare with a woman who is confirmed to have HIV, you still only have a 1/10,000 chance of contracting it from her. Despite all the ads for Truvada trying to get people to take it (funded by the drug companies to make a profit), it's still very much a disease that almost exclusively affects gay men and needle users. And even with gay sex, it's much more likely for the receptive partner to contract it.
Even though having sex with prostitutes puts us in the "high risk category" according to doctors, I personally wouldn't get on PrEP. It's not worth the cost or side effects to me. But then again, I never go bare with any of these girls.
You're much more likely to contract herpes, gonorrhea, or chlamydia from these women. Fortunately, two of those can be cured by a single pill. Unfortunately, there is no vaccine for herpes yet.
[QUOTE=Zimbler;4572571]Yes, I texted with Cas a while ago when I was bored and asked if she would do BB with me. She replied "no" and told me it's because she has herpes. I'm glad she was honest with me through texts, but once she told me that there was no way I was going to see her. A guy who used to post on this board a lot posted pics of doing her bareback a couple of years ago.[/QUOTE]According to any health agency about 1/2 of all adults have Herpes.
[URL]http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stdsstis/herpes/fast-facts-and-faqs/[/URL]
Which pretty much means %100 of providers have it. If the gal says she's having an outbreak, then stay away. Otherwise it's a given that all providers and mongers have it. ESPECIALLY the BBFS mongers.
The only danger really is the significant other dropping an anvil on your head when you fail to explain how she got HSP from you AFTER you were married.
[QUOTE=VirgilToole;4572377]You're much more likely to contract herpes, gonorrhea, or chlamydia from these women. Fortunately, two of those can be cured by a single pill. Unfortunately, there is no vaccine for herpes yet.[/QUOTE]There are unproven approaches to preventing and treating herpes. Since herpes is transmitted by skin to skin contact, skin barrier creams like Gloves in a Bottle might help. Washing immediately afterward might help, especially if using an antimicrobial soap like Defense Soap. There are a few anti-viral chemicals on the over-the-counter market for oral consumption. Monolaurin and BHT supposedly remove the outer coating of lipid coated viruses like herpes, exposing them to the body's immune system.
A study by Dr. Billigmann in 1995 concluded that protease enzymes showed identical efficacy with the drug acyclovir in treating Herpes zoster. Clinical trials of AHCC showed a 60% success rate in treating Human Papilloma Virus in women. A Japanese study found that vitamin D was more effective than a vaccine in preventing flu virus. Another study showed that "selenium inhibits the ability of all "herpes-family" viruses to reproduce". According to Dr. Weil, "Laboratory studies show that olive leaf extract has been reported to increase natural killer cell function against viruses like HIV, hepatitis B and C, and herpes".
For more info see the STD Prevention With Natural Antibiotics user blog.
So I was nervous when some other mongers said they tested positive for chlamydia. The common thread was One provider we all saw but, I got tested and it came back negative. This is after a 4 week wait period and blood with urine sample.
New girl I don't offer BBFS.
[QUOTE=J0516;4586515]Listen, coming from someone that "dreams" that works for a health department, just ease your mind and google "STI infection rates and means of transmission; CDC". I've done this for 7 years now, with some gaps in time of where my mongering cap was in temporary storage. With at least 7 BBCIP ladies and the rest covered FS. All BBBJ except a few when I first started, to where I have only caught something once and still unsure of whether it was a lady of the night or a random hook up while at college.
The CDC is solid with data as health department gets all reports ultimately sent to them for funding, research, and general data collection. I know I'm spewing a lot, but it's worth it for those who take the time to look into it themselves and see much of what you hear is extremely exaggerated. First off, remember that we are much more likely to infect them as we are transmitting semen and blood to an extent that they are truly an open tunnel of "take whatever the hell it is".
Like with HIV, the virus itself is low with heterosexual unprotected vaginal sex, but rates are crazy high with anything anal due to the easy tearing of the rectum, with the "receiver" having 3-4 x likelihood of becoming infected with an STI. The bottom line is that as long as long you're dwelling in heterosexual activity and staying clear from anything where you are the one being penetrated by someone else (no judgement cards being played; to each their own and I'm simply stating what anyone can search and verify), then you will likely contract a few STIs that are treatable, but anything to the extent of severe damage (I. E. HIV, genital warts) will take you just drawing the bad hand for that deal.
Here are some things to steer clear of as they are MUCH HIGHER odds of having something:
-any type of IV drug use is high risk. Be aware that you'll see higher rates with those who have the fewest track marks, as they are the ones who are still finding a veins, to where those with tons of marks are having issues to where a lot of them just start.
Snorting the drug.
-another risk factor is those who have BBFS, where all it takes is the one gentleman to have time with her to start that vicious cycle up.
-Those who appear in good health and put together are of course likely to be in better good health (appearance does go a long way with judgement) than those who look sickly, tired, beaten down, stressed, etc. Good health at least means an immune system that is holding things down, so I'd say take that into consideration as someone infected is much more likely to fall into those who let that same infection beat the shit out of their health until they get it addressed (by choice or forcefully I. E. Jail).[/QUOTE]So I consider myself to be the King of BB. It is my M. O. When I visit with these ladies of the night. I have doing this for almost 4 years now with NO STD's and I dumped loads into 29 ladies, and some I have been a regular with the entire time. Here is my personal plan (works for me, may not for others).
I get tested every 3 months, period. I use [URL]STDcheck.com[/URL].
I never do anything with a girl with trackmarks. I stop and leave. I also never give donations until its over.
I never do anything with a girl smelling like Starkiss Tuna! Same as above. She isn't clean.
I never negotiate BB until I meet her, then I drop it that I only do BB. Never had one say no as they want the money.
Best experience ever: I did get to do a MFM with one 2 years back and we took turns dropping our loads in her. I did 2, my buddy did 3. It was awesome. I wish she was still around.
[QUOTE=KD7771;4594290]She is very nice and I have done BBBJ, BBCIP, BBCIA ...all BB.[/QUOTE]Just a general caution against BB with anyone. I've gone BB with 2 girls and after one well-reviewed girl had bloody urine and a burning cock a week later, indicative of chlamydia or gonorrhea. Girls may legitimately think they're clean but some STDs are often asymptomatic.
This is absolutely nothing against that girl and am suggesting nothing about her in any way. I've never seen her but would like to. Just a caution to be careful in general based on personal experience.