Ripoff Reports

[QUOTE=Marcham17;6794185]So I was in Vegas from out of town, find a nice mature provider we agree on 200 for hr. She meets, we ho up and she takes the 200 and then starts talking about that was for the agency and she needs her tip yo do extra. I was so pissed that I asked her to leave she said it was my fault for not knowing how Vegas works, but this isn't how it works back home. Ripped off?

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/las-vegas/female-escorts/caucasian_w/mature-blonde-/006328545870[/URL][/QUOTE]Should have done your homework. Just keep in mind, you're not in Kansas.

For 400 up, you could've had a good time. Koreans are 320 up but it's incall.

[QUOTE=Marcham17;6794185]So I was in Vegas from out of town, find a nice mature provider we agree on 200 for hr. She meets, we ho up and she takes the 200 and then starts talking about that was for the agency and she needs her tip yo do extra. I was so pissed that I asked her to leave she said it was my fault for not knowing how Vegas works, but this isn't how it works back home. Ripped off?

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/las-vegas/female-escorts/caucasian_w/mature-blonde-/006328545870[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't know if it qualifies as a straight-up "rip-off" but that sort of bullshit is common if you call a service in Vegas. Now you know. This board or others should have been your first stop before hitting the hooker trail in Vegas.

She's been on Eros Las Vegas for years and years and somehow I can't find any reviews anywhere on the internet. (Like, how is that even possible? She looks really hot. Wouldn't enough people have booked for some of them to want to write a review? Especially since they must have gotten scammed?

[URL]https://www.eros.com/nevada/las_vegas/files/7281307.htm[/URL]

[EMAIL]Carascokate@gmail.com[/EMAIL]

[URL]https://www.models-world.com/profile/amelia-10/[/URL]

[EMAIL]ameliatoscana535@gmail.com[/EMAIL]

I decided to email her some time ago, and I think she pretty much admitted to being a scammer, LOL. Here's the full conversation, what do you think?

Me: Hi Amelia! I found your profile on Eros. Will you be available this week, and can you give more information on your expectations for a meeting with you. Thanks! My p411: redacted.

Her: Hi. Yes I am.

Me: Are you independent? What are your rates?

Her: Yes. 400.

Me: So is 400 an all inclusive rate for an hour or just the booking fee? In other words, would you ever ask for donations on top of the initial 400?

Her: Well that is indeed my donation rate babe. That doesn't change but I will ad that tipping is pretty customary in Vegas to reach the full potential for fun together. Tipping is at your discretion however babe. Everyones budgets differ. Xoxo Amelia.

Me: So what is you customary tip for an hour for full potential for fun?

Her: There is no average it varies. Sorry to be vague but no way of really giving you a definitive answer. Why don't you tell me your budgetand I can give you feedback.

Me: Nobody I've met in Vegas has asked me for my "budget. " They simply have an hourly rate, and that is the "budget. " No more, no less. Tips are never required "to reach full potential" nor expected. I have never been asked for a tip even at the end, and certainly not up front. You said your hourly rate is 400, so you can consider that the "budget," unless you want to specify a different hourly rate.

Her: Well then go with one of them I personally don't quote a tip amount that's jumping the gun before we sit down and chat about the juicy details which I only do in person.

Me: So you require an up front tip? That is to say, 400 is not your actual rate? What's the minimum and maximum tip you ask for for one hour?

Her: No response.

They keep posting from different numbers and ADs . It's always the same tho. They reply first with "Hello baby would you like to come see me" Then they ask "What Nationality and how old are you" Then "How much time do you want to spend" won't give address always says "Off S Rainbow & Blue Diamond Rd" I've seen this many times.

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[QUOTE=Iodmys;6804675]She's been on Eros Las Vegas for years and years and somehow I can't find any reviews anywhere on the internet. (Like, how is that even possible? She looks really hot. Wouldn't enough people have booked for some of them to want to write a review? Especially since they must have gotten scammed?

[URL]https://www.eros.com/nevada/las_vegas/files/7281307.htm[/URL]

[EMAIL]Carascokate@gmail.com[/EMAIL]

[URL]https://www.models-world.com/profile/amelia-10/[/URL]

[EMAIL]ameliatoscana535@gmail.com[/EMAIL]

I decided to email her some time ago, and I think she pretty much admitted to being a scammer, LOL. Here's the full conversation, what do you think?

Me: Hi Amelia! I found your profile on Eros. Will you be available this week, and can you give more information on your expectations for a meeting with you. Thanks! My p411: redacted.

Her: Hi. Yes I am.

Me: Are you independent? What are your rates?

Her: Yes. 400.

Me: So is 400 an all inclusive rate for an hour or just the booking fee? In other words, would you ever ask for donations on top of the initial 400?

Her: Well that is indeed my donation rate babe. That doesn't change but I will ad that tipping is pretty customary in Vegas to reach the full potential for fun together. Tipping is at your discretion however babe. Everyones budgets differ. Xoxo Amelia.

Me: So what is you customary tip for an hour for full potential for fun?

Her: There is no average it varies. Sorry to be vague but no way of really giving you a definitive answer. Why don't you tell me your budgetand I can give you feedback.

Me: Nobody I've met in Vegas has asked me for my "budget. " They simply have an hourly rate, and that is the "budget. " No more, no less. Tips are never required "to reach full potential" nor expected. I have never been asked for a tip even at the end, and certainly not up front. You said your hourly rate is 400, so you can consider that the "budget," unless you want to specify a different hourly rate.

Her: Well then go with one of them I personally don't quote a tip amount that's jumping the gun before we sit down and chat about the juicy details which I only do in person.

Me: So you require an up front tip? That is to say, 400 is not your actual rate? What's the minimum and maximum tip you ask for for one hour?

Her: No response.[/QUOTE]That's a lot of back and forth for something that clearly wasn't going to work out. I wouldn't have responded to anything after "Xoxo Amelia. ".

Some folks are just chatty I suppose.

Same thing but this one about got me because they changed it up just a little. But address is off Rainbow and Blue Diamond. I bet these are all part of the same scam. Sometimes the photos are a cute black girl or white girl. This time it was a hot Latina. I've see others [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/2134958546/1[/URL].

[QUOTE=Marcham17;6794185]So I was in Vegas from out of town, find a nice mature provider we agree on 200 for hr. She meets, we ho up and she takes the 200 and then starts talking about that was for the agency and she needs her tip yo do extra. I was so pissed that I asked her to leave she said it was my fault for not knowing how Vegas works, but this isn't how it works back home. Ripped off?

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/las-vegas/female-escorts/caucasian_w/mature-blonde-/006328545870[/URL][/QUOTE]It's been said many times but posts get buried. Before you hand over any money you verify X is going to happen. Vegas is one big scam for upcharges.

Also, if the ads say they don't post their real pics for safety, it's really an agency. You will more than likely be set up for an upcharge.

If the girl says it will cost more for X, then send them on their way. Wait a while and text back saying what a great time you had. The agency will think services have been rendered and the girl will be on the hook to pay the agency their cut. LOL.

[QUOTE=BladeCruiser;6807606]It's been said many times but posts get buried. Before you hand over any money you verify X is going to happen. Vegas is one big scam for upcharges.

Also, if the ads say they don't post their real pics for safety, it's really an agency. You will more than likely be set up for an upcharge.

If the girl says it will cost more for X, then send them on their way. Wait a while and text back saying what a great time you had. The agency will think services have been rendered and the girl will be on the hook to pay the agency their cut. LOL.[/QUOTE]I almost feel like there should be a Vegas "FAQ" thread where posts like this live forever, and a banner at the top of the Vegas forum to check the FAQ first. Such an unnecessary fuckup if a visitor to our resort city does even a few minutes of research here.

What makes it worse is if you are talking to one of these scam agencies bookers, they will tell you anything you want to hear to get a upsell girl out there. They will say all inclusive, real pics etc. You can't trust them. You just have to know how to spot an agency ad. A super hot girl with professional photos asking for $200 is a dead give away. Also just googling the number on this particular ad comes up with results telling you it’s a scam.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6807932]I almost feel like there should be a Vegas "FAQ" thread where posts like this live forever, and a banner at the top of the Vegas forum to check the FAQ first. Such an unnecessary fuckup if a visitor to our resort city does even a few minutes of research here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LVKiller;6805883]They keep posting from different numbers and ADs . It's always the same tho. They reply first with "Hello baby would you like to come see me" Then they ask "What Nationality and how old are you" Then "How much time do you want to spend" won't give address always says "Off S Rainbow & Blue Diamond Rd" I've seen this many times.

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[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/info_stats/2136859110[/URL][/QUOTE]I scheduled with two of the rainbow blue diamond girls a half an hour apart. I went in and saw one and she said no one else was there, just her dog upstairs. She shows me a tit and has me touch it, then asks if I have any weapons. She was about to pat me down and I threw off my shorts. She started saying how she didn't ask me to do that and she is uncomfortable and her friend (the other girl I contacted comes down). They suggested I was a problem so I said just keep the 65 and I will leave.

[QUOTE=Night234;6811790]I scheduled with two of the rainbow blue diamond girls a half an hour apart. I went in and saw one and she said no one else was there, just her dog upstairs. She shows me a tit and has me touch it, then asks if I have any weapons. She was about to pat me down and I threw off my shorts. She started saying how she didn't ask me to do that and she is uncomfortable and her friend (the other girl I contacted comes down). They suggested I was a problem so I said just keep the 65 and I will leave.[/QUOTE]Its happened to me too early in my monger hobby. The way they set the ad up, this can be a difficult ripoff to discern.

It would be cool if those garden tools were taught a lesson.

Hopefully someone shows up and screws the crap out of both of them as they try to explain they only dance.

Maybe you might feel better if you would have gave them more money and then left.

I never understood why guys let themselves get scammed and walk away thinking they won. They scammed you and you still gave them $65.00 ?

[QUOTE=Night234;6811790]I scheduled with two of the rainbow blue diamond girls a half an hour apart. I went in and saw one and she said no one else was there, just her dog upstairs. She shows me a tit and has me touch it, then asks if I have any weapons. She was about to pat me down and I threw off my shorts. She started saying how she didn't ask me to do that and she is uncomfortable and her friend (the other girl I contacted comes down). They suggested I was a problem so I said just keep the 65 and I will leave.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Night234;6811790]I scheduled with two of the rainbow blue diamond girls a half an hour apart. I went in and saw one and she said no one else was there, just her dog upstairs. She shows me a tit and has me touch it, then asks if I have any weapons. She was about to pat me down and I threw off my shorts. She started saying how she didn't ask me to do that and she is uncomfortable and her friend (the other girl I contacted comes down). They suggested I was a problem so I said just keep the 65 and I will leave.[/QUOTE]Thanks for doing the recon we needed to know. This type of scam will get many guys. I've almost fell for it many times myself.

[QUOTE=Chuck4;6812557]Maybe you might feel better if you would have gave them more money and then left.

I never understood why guys let themselves get scammed and walk away thinking they won. They scammed you and you still gave them $65.00 ?[/QUOTE]I don't think you're understanding what happened. They get the money up-front like all girls do. So after they have the money and told to leave. What would you had done different?

[QUOTE=Night234;6811790]I scheduled with two of the rainbow blue diamond girls a half an hour apart. I went in and saw one and she said no one else was there, just her dog upstairs. She shows me a tit and has me touch it, then asks if I have any weapons. She was about to pat me down and I threw off my shorts. She started saying how she didn't ask me to do that and she is uncomfortable and her friend (the other girl I contacted comes down). They suggested I was a problem so I said just keep the 65 and I will leave.[/QUOTE]As stated, the way this particular scam is worded and set up, it can be difficult to discern. The only way to defeat this one is if you suspect a scam, when you get there, tell them " Hey my buddy got scammed, they promised him some F*Cking and only danced for him. Are we going to F*ck or are you just going to dance or do something else" At that moment, if its a scam the girl will most of the time say something like "Oh, your a cop, you have to go" Most of these rats won't be stupid enough to say they are going to give you ass and then turn around and rip you off in the next minute. (This will work on text before you ever arrive but some legitimate providers may get spooked by this, sometimes its better to actually show up and ask).

Its always a risk seeing a girl with no reviews.