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[QUOTE=RegularJoe21;5475328]Meh.

I got the vaccine months ago. So not an anti vaxxer. That being said, they are claiming many of the new cases HAD the vaccine (so not complete immunity).

And bottom line the mask mandates are nothing more than theater to keep everyone reminded.

Of the plague around every corner.

After all. Midterms are just 15.

Months away. And THAT is the true reason for the continued restrictions.[/QUOTE]No, go look up the numbers, I believe it's something like 98% of all new cases are non vaccinated people. Folks just want to highlight the tiny number of vaccinated people who get it to defend their "vax doesn't work / matter" narrative.

[QUOTE=Dac007;5475426]No, go look up the numbers, I believe it's something like 98% of all new cases are non vaccinated people. Folks just want to highlight the tiny number of vaccinated people who get it to defend their "vax doesn't work / matter" narrative.[/QUOTE]So even when the anti-vaxxers screech about this:

[B]Breakthrough Covid cases: At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/breakthrough-covid-cases-at-least-125000-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-tested-positive.html[/URL]

You know what that means? [B]It means 99.93% of fully vaccinated Americans have not tested positive[/B].

People seem to have lost the ability to apply any perspective. I have to tell you, I'm shocked at how many scientists and medical professionals we seem to have on a hooker board. lol

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5475545]So even when the anti-vaxxers screech about this:

[B]Breakthrough Covid cases: At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/breakthrough-covid-cases-at-least-125000-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-tested-positive.html[/URL]

You know what that means? [B]It means 99.93% of fully vaccinated Americans have not tested positive[/B].

People seem to have lost the ability to apply any perspective. I have to tell you, I'm shocked at how many scientists and medical professionals we seem to have on a hooker board. lol[/QUOTE]But I Googled it. . . .

They're not telling us anything new. But what they are doing is selectively reporting numbers to deliberately misrepresent the actual risks and to propagate unnecessary fears.

No vaccine is 100% effective, but these mRNA vaccines exceeded all expectations and are amazingly effective against Covid, including the "highly contagious and deadly" delta variant. It makes me laugh that you can't hear the delta variant mentioned on the news without those words preceding it. For all practical purposes, fully vaccinated people no longer need to be concerned about Covid and can treat it just like any of the other common communicable respiratory infections that go around every fall and winter.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5475545]So even when the anti-vaxxers screech about this:

[B]Breakthrough Covid cases: At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/breakthrough-covid-cases-at-least-125000-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-tested-positive.html[/URL]

You know what that means? [B]It means 99.93% of fully vaccinated Americans have not tested positive[/B].

People seem to have lost the ability to apply any perspective. I have to tell you, I'm shocked at how many scientists and medical professionals we seem to have on a hooker board. lol[/QUOTE]

You guys are killing me here are the facts 99.3 percent of hospitalizations are unvaxxed people. All other cases are everybody. Here's what you guys ain't understanding it's not a vaccine it's an immunization to boost your immune system against covid no one ever said if you get the vaccine that you wouldn't get it. All it does is keep you out of the hospital and fight covid and get over it faster!

[QUOTE=Joesun1;5475777]You guys are killing me here are the facts 99.3 percent of hospitalizations are unvaxxed people. All other cases are everybody. Here's what you guys ain't understanding it's not a vaccine it's an immunization to boost your immune system against covid no one ever said if you get the vaccine that you wouldn't get it. All it does is keep you out of the hospital and fight covid and get over it faster![/QUOTE]Really dude? Well take a look at this short clip with dum dum speaking. [URL]https://rumble.com/vk6iu8-biden-claims-youre-not-gonna-get-covid-if-you-have-been-vaccinated.html[/URL].

99.9 survival rate.

[URL]https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/12-facts-you-need-to-know-about-the-vaccine-before-you-decide-to-take-it/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Crush1238;5478662]99.9 survival rate.

[URL]https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/12-facts-you-need-to-know-about-the-vaccine-before-you-decide-to-take-it/[/URL][/QUOTE]So, with "only" 600,000+ dead out of 328 M people in this country, at what survival rate or how many total dead would you think it's worth the "risk" to take the vaccine?

About half of the country, 165 M people, have received the COVID vaccine. How many people have died directly as a result?

And one thing your post hasn't taken into account are the limited hospital resources we have. I can speak first hand about seeing full ICU's and converted hospital floors with overworked staff needed to treat these patients last year at the height of the pandemic.

Do you think these "America's Frontline Doctors" will advise the people that they are telling not to get vaccinated if they do end up getting COVID and and are having trouble breathing (because their SpO2 has dropped into the 70's), "No need to call 911 or go to the hospital, you have a 99.9% survival rate. " I feel like that would only be fair to the RN's, RT's, pulmonologists, hospitalists and most importantly, the non-COVID related patients that need those ICU beds and the attention of the aforementioned staff.

[URL]https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90536[/URL]

I've spoken to doctors that have told me in no uncertain terms that as they see the number of COVID patients rise again, it's the unvaccinated that are getting admitted. The few "breakthrough" cases of the vaccinated are the ones that get to go home with flu or cold like symptoms. Since you brought up survival rates:

[URL]https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/covid-fully-vaccinated-breakthrough-hospitalization-death.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/[/URL]

The reason that we can't beyond this and to where we need to be is because people have made public health political and continue to spread misinformation.

That website is about as reliable for health info as mojovillage is for finding real providers.

The doctor cole who wrote that article also treated Covid patients with hydroxychloroquine. It wouldn't surprise me if that doctor also considered treating patients by injecting them with disinfectants like bleach after it was suggested by a certain high profile individual in a news conference.

[URL]https://www.kxxv.com/hometown/bell-county/temple-doctor-treats-covid-patients-with-hydroxychloroquine[/URL]

[QUOTE=Crush1238;5478662]99.9 survival rate.

[URL]https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/12-facts-you-need-to-know-about-the-vaccine-before-you-decide-to-take-it/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Trypt;5478999]The doctor cole who wrote that article also treated Covid patients with hydroxychloroquine. It wouldn't surprise me if that doctor also considered treating patients by injecting them with disinfectants like bleach after it was suggested by a certain high profile individual in a news conference.[/QUOTE]It is a shame that a grown man blindly repeats what the bobbleheads on television tells them. Do at least the same amount of research on sars-cov-2 treatments as you do with escorts. More than a few countries have used hydroxychloroquine and have studies with control groups to see results. None of those countries have a abnormally higher rate of infections or deaths than ones that spout the same idiocy as you wrote. [URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01619-8.[/URL] Any person that has chosen to be part of the current ongoing largest clinical trial in history by (pfizer, moderna, & johnson&johnson) probably does not know that they are part of the phase 3 experimental group when they choose the mRNA injection. The people in charge admitted to the fact that the current sars-cov-2 injections are in trial status in the New York Times. [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/opinion/covid-vaccine-safety.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=Crush1238;5478662]99.9 survival rate.

[URL]https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/12-facts-you-need-to-know-about-the-vaccine-before-you-decide-to-take-it/[/URL][/QUOTE]That website was literally created during the Trump press run about hydroxychloroquine and had that crazy Jamaican doctor that went nuts on TV.

[QUOTE=Crush1238;5478662]99.9 survival rate.

[URL]https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/12-facts-you-need-to-know-about-the-vaccine-before-you-decide-to-take-it/[/URL][/QUOTE]Do you wear a seatbelt when you drive your car? Why? More than 99.9% survival rate.

[QUOTE=Trypt;5478999]That website is about as reliable for health info as mojovillage is for finding real providers.

The doctor cole who wrote that article also treated Covid patients with hydroxychloroquine. It wouldn't surprise me if that doctor also considered treating patients by injecting them with disinfectants like bleach after it was suggested by a certain high profile individual in a news conference.

[URL]https://www.kxxv.com/hometown/bell-county/temple-doctor-treats-covid-patients-with-hydroxychloroquine[/URL][/QUOTE]I think the NJ Governor states it pretty plainly.

[I]“You’ve lost your minds,” Gov. Phil Murphy said. “You are the ultimate knuckleheads. And because of what you are saying and standing for, people are losing their life.”[/I]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/04/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine/youve-lost-your-minds-nj-governor-rebukes-anti-vaccine-demonstrators[/URL]

[QUOTE=GoldHelmet;5479235]That website was literally created during the Trump press run about hydroxychloroquine and had that crazy Jamaican doctor that went nuts on TV.[/QUOTE]Some people love CNN, that's okay. Looky here, the CDC walked back their claim that HCQ doesn't work. Because it does work.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8_mq563Dz0[/URL]

Oh and for you goobers that say it's not a vaccine, here's a pic of the bottle. Says right there "Vaccine".

[QUOTE=Crush1238;5478662]99.9 survival rate.

[URL]https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/12-facts-you-need-to-know-about-the-vaccine-before-you-decide-to-take-it/[/URL][/QUOTE]Are the doctors backing that site classmates of Dr. Nick Riviera?