Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3740103]'these threads' - well, you really need to be reading the master thread, for Richmond VA. The active thread and archive there are invaluable. To your specific questions. I have checked into several Choice Hotels w / a photo I'd but w / a reservation under a misspelling of my name and a fictitious address. You can also prepay w / Hotwire, or use the services like Hotelbyday, etc. W / your sugar name. The desk clerk never looks too closely at my DL, after they've seen me a couple of times they don't bother. You can also easily get a fake photo I'd from the dark web. I use a reloadable debit card that doesn't show up on my credit report, and then settle my bill in cash. It takes a few days for the $ to go back on the card. I have a second license plate I bought off of EBay from a guy who has a local wrecker. I pop it on about half a mile from the meetup. I also put black tape over the VIN. All registration etc. Is locked in the glove box.[/QUOTE]That's a lot of work, but it seems like the effort completely breaks down if the SB is LE. I know that people like to say that LE usually won't do a sting as outcall, but some of your effort is for someone specifically targeting you and if LE wants you and not a general sting then there is no reason your SB can't be undercover LE. I'd also be concerned about getting pulled over with a fake tag. They will take you to jail for that. If you want to go that route then more power to you, I'm only suggesting that there is still a fairly easy way for you to get caught.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;3741154]That's a lot of work, but it seems like the effort completely breaks down if the SB is LE. I know that people like to say that LE usually won't do a sting as outcall, but some of your effort is for someone specifically targeting you and if LE wants you and not a general sting then there is no reason your SB can't be undercover LE. I'd also be concerned about getting pulled over with a fake tag. They will take you to jail for that. If you want to go that route then more power to you, I'm only suggesting that there is still a fairly easy way for you to get caught.[/QUOTE]For LE to "specifically" target one individual with a sting using a SB as an undercover. Never ever going to happen. There are waaaaaayyyyy too many variables to even consider that as a possibility. Here's why:

First they'd have to create a SB profile on whatever site, then they'd have to hope and pray that their "target" was even interested in said profile. You see where I'm headed?

The fake tag would get you in more hot water than anything, since LE has tag readers in use all over town.

[QUOTE=Airmantroy;3741253]For LE to "specifically" target one individual with a sting using a SB as an undercover. Never ever going to happen. There are waaaaaayyyyy too many variables to even consider that as a possibility. Here's why:

First they'd have to create a SB profile on whatever site, then they'd have to hope and pray that their "target" was even interested in said profile. You see where I'm headed?

The fake tag would get you in more hot water than anything, since LE has tag readers in use all over town.[/QUOTE]It's pretty trivial for them to make a bunch of fake profiles and cast a wide net. Remember if you are concerned about LE tracing your phone then they already have a reason to go after you and they are already willing to do all the legal leg work to get the records they want. I'm not saying it's highly likely, I'm just saying that if you are going to be so concerned about 100% anonymity then there is always going to be a breakdown if you are meeting someone in person.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;3741505]It's pretty trivial for them to make a bunch of fake profiles and cast a wide net. Remember if you are concerned about LE tracing your phone then they already have a reason to go after you and they are already willing to do all the legal leg work to get the records they want. I'm not saying it's highly likely, I'm just saying that if you are going to be so concerned about 100% anonymity then there is always going to be a breakdown if you are meeting someone in person.[/QUOTE]There is no way they'd even consider wasting that much time for a charge of soliciting, if they want someone that bad, there are plenty of other things they could do that'd be easier and faster than waiting for a guy to message some fake profile, MEET the undercover girl chosen at random from a group of fake profiles (who by the way has to match the profile pics). I'd bet my life on it. TWICE. The odds of winning every lottery in the country on the same day are better. Now, go driving thru Chamblee with a fake tag and you may find yourself with some nice shiny bracelets and a cell mate named Bubba.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;3741154]That's a lot of work, but it seems like the effort completely breaks down if the SB is LE. I know that people like to say that LE usually won't do a sting as outcall, but some of your effort is for someone specifically targeting you and if LE wants you and not a general sting then there is no reason your SB can't be undercover LE. I'd also be concerned about getting pulled over with a fake tag. They will take you to jail for that. If you want to go that route then more power to you, I'm only suggesting that there is still a fairly easy way for you to get caught.[/QUOTE]Why would I get pulled over w / a fake tag? How can LE tell it's not good? They may run a fascist state down in Georgia, but not where I'm from. Ideally, I put the tag on in the next door parking lot. Is it a crime to have a vehicle sitting on private property with an improper tag? Or even no tag? I'd think so. There are lots of solutions to this problem. Did you read the Steve Jobsbook? He *never* had his car tagged. He did this by getting a new Mercedes every 6 months, b / c California has a deal where you can have your paper registration for that long. LE doesn't check this stuff. I have a friend who has a license plate flipper. Pushes a button on the dash and the real one is out, pushes again and the sugar one is out.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;3741505]It's pretty trivial for them to make a bunch of fake profiles and cast a wide net. Remember if you are concerned about LE tracing your phone then they already have a reason to go after you and they are already willing to do all the legal leg work to get the records they want. I'm not saying it's highly likely, I'm just saying that if you are going to be so concerned about 100% anonymity then there is always going to be a breakdown if you are meeting someone in person.[/QUOTE]I have been around this site and the bowl for a while, and I have *never* heard of anyone running in to LE based on a contact through SA. There are some news reports of people getting into trouble with the law, and it turns out that they met through SA, but that's it. This is not something to worry about, especially if you are truly looking for a SB. If you use SA to find your local escorts / BP girls, there might be a little more risk. I hope that people are smarter than that. There will always be a way to find streetwalkers, escorts, etc. But I really hope that those can be kept off SA, b / c that is the only thing that would take it down. Some of us SA users really are looking for an arrangement, and there's no better place for it.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3740103]'these threads' - well, you really need to be reading the master thread, for Richmond VA. The active thread and archive there are invaluable. To your specific questions. I have checked into several Choice Hotels w / a photo I'd but w / a reservation under a misspelling of my name and a fictitious address. You can also prepay w / Hotwire, or use the services like Hotelbyday, etc. W / your sugar name. The desk clerk never looks too closely at my DL, after they've seen me a couple of times they don't bother. You can also easily get a fake photo I'd from the dark web. I use a reloadable debit card that doesn't show up on my credit report, and then settle my bill in cash. It takes a few days for the $ to go back on the card. I have a second license plate I bought off of EBay from a guy who has a local wrecker. I pop it on about half a mile from the meetup. I also put black tape over the VIN. All registration etc. Is locked in the glove box.[/QUOTE]Ah, and the one approach I forgot. Have the SB get the room and just give her $ for it. I have even gotten one to agree to a deal that the sugar and the room are a fixed amount. She economizes to put $ in her pocket. This kind of stuff is kindergarten over on the Richmond arrangements thread.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;3741505]It's pretty trivial for them to make a bunch of fake profiles and cast a wide net. Remember if you are concerned about LE tracing your phone then they already have a reason to go after you and they are already willing to do all the legal leg work to get the records they want. I'm not saying it's highly likely, I'm just saying that if you are going to be so concerned about 100% anonymity then there is always going to be a breakdown if you are meeting someone in person.[/QUOTE]There is no way that a police department is going to put the resources and cost into nailing one guy for solicitation. That's crazy thought.

Also, before meeting a new SB don't ask for sexual acts in exchange for compensation. There is nothing to be paranoid about then.

I doubt LE would bother busting dudes on SA. It is just more challenging, because the money you give these girls is ostensibly not for sex. Of course you could say that with Backpage too, but would be harder to prove in more cases with SA. Of course some guys will start overly offering money for sex acts, but not all of them. So it's more work for LE and they hate doing real work.

The only possibility is that they could just do a bust for show and to make an example of someone. But I don't know that they care that much about SA. And I believe SA is based out of some European country, so makes it more difficult to f*ck with the owners of the site like they did with Backpage here. It just isn't high on their list.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3742092]I doubt LE would bother busting dudes on SA. It is just more challenging, because the money you give these girls is ostensibly not for sex. Of course you could say that with Backpage too, but would be harder to prove in more cases with SA. Of course some guys will start overly offering money for sex acts, but not all of them. So it's more work for LE and they hate doing real work.

The only possibility is that they could just do a bust for show and to make an example of someone. But I don't know that they care that much about SA. And I believe SA is based out of some European country, so makes it more difficult to f*ck with the owners of the site like they did with Backpage here. It just isn't high on their list.[/QUOTE]Hmm. When did Hong Kong become part of Europe?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3741695]Why would I get pulled over w / a fake tag? How can LE tell it's not good? They may run a fascist state down in Georgia, but not where I'm from. Ideally, I put the tag on in the next door parking lot. Is it a crime to have a vehicle sitting on private property with an improper tag? Or even no tag? I'd think so. There are lots of solutions to this problem. Did you read the Steve Jobsbook? He *never* had his car tagged. He did this by getting a new Mercedes every 6 months, b / c California has a deal where you can have your paper registration for that long. LE doesn't check this stuff. I have a friend who has a license plate flipper. Pushes a button on the dash and the real one is out, pushes again and the sugar one is out.[/QUOTE]LE has cameras on their vehicles that scan your plate and almost instantly they get a signal if something is wrong, I got pulled over in my truck because I had the tailgate dropped hauling some plywood and the reader couldn't see my tag, the officer told me what had happened, apologized for the trouble and we went on our merry way. These cameras are in use all over Ga, I haven't seen them elsewhere. Anything that conceals / decieves the identity of ownership of a vehicle is going to be considered illegal by 99.9% of LE.

A mechanical tag flipper? That guy needs to find a different hobby if he's that paranoid. Maybe HMSS is looking for a Bond replacement.

[QUOTE=HuksAlot;3742016]There is no way that a police department is going to put the resources and cost into nailing one guy for solicitation. That's crazy thought.

Also, before meeting a new SB don't ask for sexual acts in exchange for compensation. There is nothing to be paranoid about then.[/QUOTE]I actually agree with you. My comments were in response to some of the measures other's have mentioned in order to stay anonymous. It just seems that if you are that worried, then meeting in person is also a risk. It all started by posts saying that your Google Voice number could be traced back to you, which again requires LE to be specifically targeting you and doing the legal work to get Google to release the info.

Oh and I didn't realize we were ranting and raving. Bitchin!

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3741695]Why would I get pulled over w / a fake tag? How can LE tell it's not good? They may run a fascist state down in Georgia, but not where I'm from. Ideally, I put the tag on in the next door parking lot. Is it a crime to have a vehicle sitting on private property with an improper tag? Or even no tag? I'd think so. There are lots of solutions to this problem. Did you read the Steve Jobsbook? He *never* had his car tagged. He did this by getting a new Mercedes every 6 months, b / c California has a deal where you can have your paper registration for that long. LE doesn't check this stuff. I have a friend who has a license plate flipper. Pushes a button on the dash and the real one is out, pushes again and the sugar one is out.[/QUOTE]Yes LE will randomly run a tag. It happens all the time. I've had that happen when driving a relative's car and their insurance had lapsed. It's one thing to explain an expired tag and whole different thing to explain a completely fake one. In GA it is illegal to even park a car with an expired tag on public property and they can and will tow your car for that. It just seems like a big risk to me, but if you are comfortable with it.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3741695]Why would I get pulled over w / a fake tag? How can LE tell it's not good? They may run a fascist state down in Georgia, but not where I'm from. Ideally, I put the tag on in the next door parking lot. Is it a crime to have a vehicle sitting on private property with an improper tag? Or even no tag? I'd think so. There are lots of solutions to this problem. Did you read the Steve Jobsbook? He *never* had his car tagged. He did this by getting a new Mercedes every 6 months, b / c California has a deal where you can have your paper registration for that long. LE doesn't check this stuff. I have a friend who has a license plate flipper. Pushes a button on the dash and the real one is out, pushes again and the sugar one is out.[/QUOTE]They scan the barcode on the plate's sticker. They sit idling waiting for a hit.

I'm really starting to dislike all the "any info" or " has anyone see" posters that have not done one legit helpful review or contribute somewhat except be a number for the site. Now I know it has been discussed before of how the site needs people like these but my goodness I think its getting worse. How do some of these people have 4/5/6 posts straight just asking for info? And its simple to tell go on their profile page and all you see are questions, which makes it even worse.

If this applies to you, just do better, do your own research, or better yet go out there and see what is going on and then report back, stop trying to be mister magoo with all the questions.