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[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3798165]Another beta tester in the Northern Virginia section. Welcome back mongers![/QUOTE]Glad that the forum is back but it is going to be a pain in the ass to find ads because of the crackdown. Even my regular disappeared from the scene. So, I'm starting from zero now. The only positive thing about the crackdown is that I saved a lot of money. LOL.
[QUOTE=Idk85;3798212]Glad that the forum is back but it is going to be a pain in the ass to find ads because of the crackdown. Even my regular disappeared from the scene. So, I'm starting from zero now. The only positive thing about the crackdown is that I saved a lot of money. LOL.[/QUOTE]It's true, the crackdown put a damper on activities, but the talent didn't just go away. It's still out there and available, if you do your searches right. And, there [U]are[/U] a couple sites where ads are still up. You just have to be smart about your searches. I won't insult you by doing your thinking for you, but I'll just remind you that the Net has a history. You can still find the old contacts on some of the websites like BP that have closed. Some of those contact numbers aren't valid any loner, but others are.
And, of course, the AMPs are still around. The clampdown didn't bother them much, since they didn't much depend on sites like CL and BP for business. What the new (or, rather, revamped) USASG now needs is the sharing of our findings.
Yes, the Internet has a history but one has to wonder if some providers simply moved on. We'll have to see who's still active and who isn't.
Time and money have been in short supply for me recently, but out of curiosity I perused some of the ad boards still available. Many of those ads are dubious at best, even more dubious than the Asian crapshoot ads which dominated Backpage the last couple of years. On one site I also found some ads for providers who had supposedly retired. So this will definitely be an interesting season.
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3798165]Another beta tester in the Northern Virginia section. Welcome back mongers![/QUOTE]We definitely live in interesting times!
[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;3798228]It's true, the crackdown put a damper on activities, but the talent didn't just go away. It's still out there and available, if you do your searches right. And, there [U]are[/U] a couple sites where ads are still up. You just have to be smart about your searches. I won't insult you by doing your thinking for you, but I'll just remind you that the Net has a history. You can still find the old contacts on some of the websites like BP that have closed. Some of those contact numbers aren't valid any loner, but others are.
And, of course, the AMPs are still around. The clampdown didn't bother them much, since they didn't much depend on sites like CL and BP for business. What the new (or, rather, revamped) USASG now needs is the sharing of our findings.[/QUOTE]Agreed that AMPs, at least established ones with decent reputations, are probably doing fine. I think some AMPs relied on BP or CL more than others, especially if relatively new and in low-visibility locations.
IMHO, indie masseuses may have taken the biggest hit, especially ones who advertised in therapeutic massage sections. Most new ad sites are geared toward escorts and not so much toward massage. The ones who are probably doing ok are those who had a reputation for great customer service and cultivated a good base of repeat customers (ex. Thai KK, Tara, etc.) while those who relied on a constant churn of new clients are probably not doing as well.
Its been wild since the sites been down. I got a few stories incoming but its good to see things are getting back to normal.
I found that some of my favorite local indies are advertising here:
[URL]https://www.massageanywhere.com[/URL]
It's mostly legit, but you should recognize some pretty faces on there.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3798359]IMHO, indie masseuses may have taken the biggest hit, especially ones who advertised in therapeutic massage sections. Most new ad sites are geared toward escorts and not so much toward massage. The ones who are probably doing ok are those who had a reputation for great customer service and cultivated a good base of repeat customers (ex. Thai KK, Tara, etc.) while those who relied on a constant churn of new clients are probably not doing as well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Calvinking757;3747068]I've been to Latin Touch twice and have drawn Giovanna (black dress hair covering face in ad) she's a nice girl with a great body but overall nothing to write home about for overall experience. I've been wanting to try Sandra (pink dress in ad) but have been unable to. I scheduled a recent appt and drew Leah (black dress back turned ad) but had to cancel. Has anyone had a session with Leah? If so how was she?
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/latin-touch-massage-vip/20803208[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw Leah. She is great. Nice service and friendly personality.
[QUOTE=ZebraSoile;3798745]I saw Leah. She is great. Nice service and friendly personality.[/QUOTE]Leah is 1/2 Latina, 1/2 Scandinavian. Has natural blonde hair, speaks English fluently. Attractive face & figure. I dropped in w / o calling, but you should call first (sorry, I forgot the number but you can find it on Yelp I think).
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3798359]Agreed that AMPs, at least established ones with decent reputations, are probably doing fine. I think some AMPs relied on BP or CL more than others, especially if relatively new and in low-visibility locations.
IMHO, indie masseuses may have taken the biggest hit, especially ones who advertised in therapeutic massage sections. Most new ad sites are geared toward escorts and not so much toward massage. The ones who are probably doing ok are those who had a reputation for great customer service and cultivated a good base of repeat customers (ex. Thai KK, Tara, etc.) while those who relied on a constant churn of new clients are probably not doing as well.[/QUOTE]I went to Arlington Therapy Saturday and saw Lotto. She commented on how business had been slow since they couldn't advertise as much. It will be interesting to see how the market changes.
Wow. That was a bit of a dry spell. So where are all the places advertising now? I was curious how the lack of BP and CL would impact business. I tried searching for a few of the numbers I had but no dice. Any casualties that anyone knows of?
[QUOTE=Procrast333;3800122]Wow. That was a bit of a dry spell. So where are all the places advertising now? I was curious how the lack of BP and CL would impact business. I tried searching for a few of the numbers I had but no dice. Any casualties that anyone knows of?[/QUOTE]Given the price point, it was best just to stay with the Korean Agencies for me. They've all been Operating with the exception of RHF69.
I think now is the time for Monger Reform. Where now we have an opportunity to collectively to stop paying outrageous prices. I know this sounds like a pipe dream and to resist the urge in the moment to fold and pay an upsell won't hold We have to try though. The CL / BP shut down was a blessing in disguise to destroy and rebuild.
Franconia Wellness is one of several KSpas within about a mile of each other (close proximity to the DMV Office in Franconia).
It is kept in good condition by management. The studios are a bit small, but clean. Good TS area.
I was a walk-in last week. Greeted by MMS (cautiously welcoming); collected house fee (. 8/ hr) and told me to undress (towel in plain site for my modesty of course).
Joy, an attractive in that Nova Kgirl manner ("spinner-ish") arrived after about 5 minutes. She was pleasant, and took me to the TS where all was cleaned (nice TS if not great).
Back to studio for massagi. Not bad (not great) - but a nice "Thai / Swedish" combo massage.
First visit (and I was a walkin) -- so, average enjoyable finish. Standard tip + . 1 (perhaps better treatment awaits).
NR.
[QUOTE=WalterKovacs;3800160]I think now is the time for Monger Reform. Where now we have an opportunity to collectively to stop paying outrageous prices. I know this sounds like a pipe dream and to resist the urge in the moment to fold and pay an upsell won't hold We have to try though. The CL / BP shut down was a blessing in disguise to destroy and rebuild.[/QUOTE]One thing that's obviously true is that "business as usual" is dead and gone. Both mongers and providers are out of their comfort zone and that means pitfalls and opportunities abound.
Some ladies have plenty of regulars, and are in higher demand, allowing them to raise prices. Others have experienced a slowdown and, with bills to pay, they're more willing to negotiate. But even those ladies will try to maintain the appearance of normality and they'll keep their "list" prices the same.
Hard negotiating will almost always get a negative response but, if you can accurately assess which kind of provider you're dealing with, a softer approach might do the trick. For example, if the ad website doesn't list prices, you can politely say that her rates are more that you're able to handle right now and apologize for taking up her time. You can also lay the blame on the absence of BP and the oThER site and she'll probably agree with you on that. At that point, if she's in the mood to deal she will probably make you an offer, which you can decide to accept or respectfully reject. Also, before hanging up I often tell the provider that I'm sure she's worth every penny but then ask her to let me know if she ever offers any kind of special. That gives her one last opportunity to make an offer.
FWIW, some ladies come right out of the gate with a lower price. I saw one (not in VA) who was asking 400 on Eros but offered me 125/250 without my even asking.