Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

But when I got this PM from a fellow monger about a recent post of mine, it broke me:

[I][b][u]flake and shake[/u][/b]
I agree. I didn't post my last visit, but it was the same. She was on something for sure. I should have posted but due to time constraints, I never got to it.[/I]

I am afraid to write negative reports anymore. Many providers won't see me anymore. [B] From now on, I will leave the name out of the review, and only fill in the blanks for those who actually share intel.[/B]

Sorry to be such an asshole. I'm sure you really care what I think ( [U][i]that was sarcastic[/i][/U]).

Kj.

[QUOTE=KenwoodJack;2052711]Many providers won't see me anymore.[/QUOTE]Post as little or as much as you want, your choice but why would you run out of chicks to see? The ones that suck don't matter, and if some chick won't see you because they are afraid of a bad review, I'd tell them to up their game. I admit I am kind of spoiled down here with the numbers we have.

A2.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;2052470]How many times have you gone into Graeter's, Subway, McD's etc and looked at a girl and thought "That girl could be making a lot more doing just 3 UTR appointments a week than she's making working 40 hrs".[/QUOTE]And I would love to be a recruiter. So many just don't understand those values. They could hand pick their flavors and really make a go at it. I tend to believe the disgruntled girlfriend / wife on a weekend with the girls shows a far greater lack of discipline in the realm of danger more than someone that knows each time needs to be a safe one to get to the next.

A backpager that left the hobby told me she used to work at UDF, couldn't handle standing on the concrete floors all day for $8 hour.

Funny thing is I bought peanuts from her last week at the very UDF she left. How's that workin' out for ya, workin' for peanuts.

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;2052356] I personally love my curves.[/QUOTE]There's a following for those curves.

[QUOTE=LuvdaLadys14;2052184]I tend to gravitate toward the spinner types too but there is one lady that just has me so intrigued and she is a thicker woman and that is Sandy. She has a really, really pretty face and I just love her long, red locks. They're to die for IMHO. I also like her more than ample chest so, even though I'm on record as saying this before, I'm just biding my time for a trip to see her... There are things I'd like to do with her long locks that should surely be outlawed in most states..[/QUOTE]Something about long hair that slowly dangles in contact with the skin during the motions is a newfound value I enjoy. Adds to the moment in a lovely way.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2052147]I was going to post something along these lines. While I don't understand it (spinner lover here) I get it that it takes a village to keep all guys happy. We had a guy staying at the Monger Mansion that was into thick black chicks. His eyes would glaze over when he saw a HUGE ass. He would talk about hitting it doggie and watching the wave moving through the ass. I didn't get it, it kinda made me puke a little in my mouth, but it's not my dick it's his, he can stick it where he wants. It's not my place to judge or denigrate. We all were wondering why he overflew the DR to get to Argentina though.

My whole commentary about price princesses wasn't about any one provider, it was about providers in general that think they are a cut above the rest and communicate that fact by charging far in excess of what is customary (but not required) in their markets. It's not the price, it's the price relative to the market they are operating in.

A2.[/QUOTE]This site over time got me into the spinner types. That was the majority I enjoyed back in the day. Been with a few, all were good experiences, versatile a great deal more in the garden variety of positions, but I'm not thin or trim. I love warm rolling contours of the female body, their skin baby ass smooth. Find it more with mixed race ladies than straight up American. Love tits that when they are in my face I become claustrophobic. The deep caverns of what a big ass provides I could forward my mailing address to just because there's just more to enjoy. But, there's good looking when the clothes come off and then there's the oh jesus moment. Those are non repeated steps, learn from bad experience.

You got the blessed luxury of a realm of gold where you are. Here, seems the spinner types are scattered over a large area if you are going to stick with that one design. Definitely understand your point of view because I'm sure it'd be against the grain otherwise.

To anyone who would like to know; Lovli has a new addition as of last Saturday. 12 hours labor and a healthy baby boy. I delivered my 3rd inflatable mattress to a provider in need. Thank god I bought those on sale.

[QUOTE=KenwoodJack;2052711]But when I got this PM from a fellow monger about a recent post of mine, it broke me:

[I][b][u]flake and shake[/u][/b]
I agree. I didn't post my last visit, but it was the same. She was on something for sure. I should have posted but due to time constraints, I never got to it.[/I]

I am afraid to write negative reports anymore. Many providers won't see me anymore. [B] From now on, I will leave the name out of the review, and only fill in the blanks for those who actually share intel.[/B]

Sorry to be such an asshole. I'm sure you really care what I think ( [U][i]that was sarcastic[/i][/U]).

Kj.[/QUOTE]Well I dropped the ball by not posting my review which might have saved you a bad trip to which I apologize. But please by all means post the truth that is one reason for the site. Just be honest and sooner or later it will pay as the badones will be weeded out but sadly to say they will quickly be replaced. Happy Hunting.

[BLUE]If she has any knights don't bother pleading a case for Julia Ann/ Baksumcookies. That was some serious douchebaggery she got away for awhile and you'll never convince me it was accidental.

A2[/BLUE]

I will admit I like a spinner, but the ladies that aren't also have something to give and generally have a better personality and attitude. I have seen classA and think she's a doll. To me it's not about getting the best looking, it's about who I can connect with that has a nice rate. Don't pass on a bigger gal based on body type. You may be missing out on something awesome. MF

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;2052356]To each their own babe. Everyone has different likes and wants. Thats why this city is so great. We have different strokes for different folks. We have beautiful spinners with a great personality like silk and thicker woman who are sensual like Sinful. Thats what makes this a fantasic sight. I personally love my curves. Thats what makes me a woman. Yes I may have baby fat but that shows that I am even more of a woman and a mother too. I have no regrets of what my beautiful children have done to me because I have something great to live for everyday. But just remember babe, we all have feelings and just like some of you felt of offended over lila raising her prices, some providers will feel offended by some of your alls post too. I perosonally don't because I am happy with myself. IMHO.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Admin2;2052782]Post as little or as much as you want, your choice but why would you run out of chicks to see? The ones that suck don't matter, and if some chick won't see you because they are afraid of a bad review, I'd tell them to up their game. I admit I am kind of spoiled down here with the numbers we have.

A2.[/QUOTE]The ones who won't see you because they're afraid you might give them bad reviews are the ones you don't want to see anyway. The ones who are just sensitive about anyone reviewing them aren't long for this line of work anyway. Among all the guys who actually provide intel on here, yours is consistently among the most reliable. So, if they don't like it, screw them. Figuratively, not literally.

[QUOTE=MassageFreak;2053997]I will admit I like a spinner, but the ladies that aren't also have something to give and generally have a better personality and attitude. I have seen classA and think she's a doll. To me it's not about getting the best looking, it's about who I can connect with that has a nice rate. Don't pass on a bigger gal based on body type. You may be missing out on something awesome. MF

.[/QUOTE]Even though I prefer spinners, some of my best experiences ever in the hobby have been with some very large women. But it's such an individual thing. There are some guys for whom a particular look is the very most important thing. I have long suspected that these are guys who are most likely not much fun for women to be with anyway, since it's all about them and their vanity. But that's just a theory, since I wasn't interested in doing any taking or observing for the cause of research.

[QUOTE=Bucks97;2054004]Even though I prefer spinners, some of my best experiences ever in the hobby have been with some very large women. But it's such an individual thing. There are some guys for whom a particular look is the very most important thing. I have long suspected that these are guys who are most likely not much fun for women to be with anyway, since it's all about them and their vanity. But that's just a theory, since I wasn't interested in doing any taking or observing for the cause of research.[/QUOTE]I for one really like thick ladies. Not taking anything away from thin girls, but I like meat!!

KJ, with all due respect, you are doing the board a disservice by posting "reviews" with no names. It doesn't do anyone any good since reviews are supposed to identify the good, and the bad. If a person has concerns about a particular provider, what you posted wouldn't do him any good since even if he made a concerted effort to do a search for information, your "review" wouldn't come up.

Your review looks more like an ad, with you in the role of the handler. You might as well say, "I have a girl, great skills, but you will need t go through me to get to see her. That's the same job description as Buddha and Steve of EE.

You want to post a review, then post it, good or bad. You want to be a handler, then say so.

But this no naming names, unless you approve of them, well, that's being petty and a bit of a power trip.

[QUOTE=KenwoodJack;2053494]Rendezvous at a very clean, nice HOTEL in Cincinnati North (very safe area).

She is a visiting girl [B](Indys)[/B] from Lexington who visits often.

4'11" - neither svelte nor zaftig. Cute boobies (C's).

She screens, you must make first contact by email, but she is quick to respond.

On time with a perfect attitude.

Did we "do it" on the top cover (the same place the last 4 guys came)? [B][u]NO, there were new clean sheets.[/u][/B].

She was fresh out of the shower. Clean soapy smell. [U]She does not smoke.[/U].

[B]Attitude: 10 Professionalism: 10 [/B](She was laid back, relaxed, and ready to perform).

[B]Skill:9 Performance:9 Comfortability level:10[/B]

[I][u]Menu was completely full[/u][/I], including but not limited to [B]gfe[/B], open minded things, BBBJ, daty, cfs, dfk, many positions, and msog.

Did she provide clean up after the pop? She wiped me down with a warm wash cloth (a fresh clean one). This was definitely something that I have not recently seen.

Overall pros: (reasons a monger might want to see her). [B]attitude, menu, safety, skills, attitude[/B].

Overall value: [U]extraordinary[/U].

[b] Do not PM me unless you know me or I should know you![/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DNut;2054162]KJ, with all due respect, you are doing the board a disservice by posting "reviews" with no names. It doesn't do anyone any good since reviews are supposed to identify the good, and the bad. If a person has concerns about a particular provider, what you posted wouldn't do him any good since even if he made a concerted effort to do a search for information, your "review" wouldn't come up.

Your review looks more like an ad, with you in the role of the handler. You might as well say, "I have a girl, great skills, but you will need t go through me to get to see her. That's the same job description as Buddha and Steve of EE.

You want to post a review, then post it, good or bad. You want to be a handler, then say so.

But this no naming names, unless you approve of them, well, that's being petty and a bit of a power trip.[/QUOTE][BLUE]You will notice this is in blue, hence this is A2 the godlike presence not me the guy talking.

There are many reasons a member might want to withhold a name in a review, we all know what they are so I won't list them. You are correct in saying that writing a review and then withholding a name could be something that a handler would do. When a comment like that is directed at another SR that has been posting here for years, then it's Douchebaggery.

I created the Octagon specifically for stupid shit like this. If you do it again I'm putting you back on moderation. I'm not saying you can't say it. I'm just saying you can't say it on the review threads.

Kenwood Jack knock it off with the [quote][u] Do not PM me unless I know you[/u], [b]or I [i]should[/i] know you.[/b][/quote] horseshit.

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=DNut;2054162]KJ, with all due respect, you are doing the board a disservice by posting "reviews" with no names. It doesn't do anyone any good since reviews are supposed to identify the good, and the bad. If a person has concerns about a particular provider, what you posted wouldn't do him any good since even if he made a concerted effort to do a search for information, your "review" wouldn't come up.

Your review looks more like an ad, with you in the role of the handler. You might as well say, "I have a girl, great skills, but you will need t go through me to get to see her. That's the same job description as Buddha and Steve of EE.

You want to post a review, then post it, good or bad. You want to be a handler, then say so.

But this no naming names, unless you approve of them, well, that's being petty and a bit of a power trip.[/QUOTE]Or wannabe pimp. There are some other "reviewers" on here I have my doubts about. Not him. I understand his reason for not posting names, though I think it's a bad idea and will likely stop soon because people will stop paying attention if he keeps it up. The one review I'd seen to this effect that was of interest to me I (and apparently others) could pretty well figure out by context anyway. If I'm really dying for the info and can't figure it out, I suppose I'd ask him. Hasn't happened yet.

[BLUE]Note again this is in blue, so it's not the cool guy A2, but rather the mod that can be an asshole from time to time.

Ladies, we have rules here. Most of them are actually designed to protect you guys. No personal info, no arrest info, no STD accusations, and on. What you will never be protected from on this forum is a members opinion. Never, it's not ever, going to happen. Guys can say some pretty explicit shit that won't violate our posting guidelines. There are exceptions. A year ago or so there was a lady that obviously had some issues going on and some fucking douchebag mistook the locker room banter here for license to say shit about the mentally ill. A2 said no, that's cruel, not opinion.

They may however say you are fat, they can say your coochie stank like a shit wagon, they can say your place is horrible, they can say you have needle tracks.

Some providers decide to respond in the review threads. That's when you see the "Completely Useless Drama" flag. Here in the Octagon, of course you may, but not in the review threads.

Some providers decide to harass the member with PM's. When the members write me about it I always tell them the say thing. "Tell her to fuck off and delete the PM." Now why that would irrate a member is sort of beyond me. Tell them to fuck off and just delete it. If they send another one, delete that without reading it. Ladies we do love you guys but remember the purpose here; "To provide a place for men to talk about women for sex." It doesn't say anything about chicks in that. Though Jax and I have started talking about doing something about that.

I think this is why Jack is doing what he's doing.

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=OperatorError;2054134]I for one really like thick ladies. Not taking anything away from thin girls, but I like meat!![/QUOTE]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL]

[QUOTE=Glockman;2054654]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL][/QUOTE]One would have to be a real loser to pay for that flubber. That is fucking GROSS!

[QUOTE=Glockman;2054654]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL][/QUOTE]Just curious what rates they are paying for sex. It would have to be a lot.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2054654]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL][/QUOTE]Not ever in this lifetime and not even with someone else's wanker!

Luv.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2054654]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm willing to bet somebody creeped over and got themselves some of that big stuff, they just aren't telling. I like the lady's small and petite if I got with that I would look like that poster with the skinny guy stuck in the fat girls ass and the caption underneath saying " crack kills ". That is way to much blubber.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2054654]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL][/QUOTE]Where in the "H" do you find lingerie that size?

[QUOTE=Glockman;2054654]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL][/QUOTE]Both are fun to ride however you better not let your friends see you enjoying yourself! I agree that those two are getting action somewhere but no one is going to admit it.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2054654]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL][/QUOTE]I was told a real man could take a woman like that and wear her down to about 80 lbs. However I have never had the confidence to try it.

This could give someone alot of bragging rights in our community.

Fdx.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2054654]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey G if I'm the first one do I get a comission.

[QUOTE=TNT101;2055128]Hey G if I'm the first one do I get a comission.[/QUOTE]Yes, if you like DATY it's all you can eat.

[QUOTE=Bobby1862;2055016]Where in the "H" do you find lingerie that size?[/QUOTE]Omar the tent maker would be my guess. But like buying XXL and XXXL items, it's goina cost ya extra.

Luv.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2054654]If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/Domination/2-big-booty-bbw-mistresses-2-come-and-worship-28/5707454[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't think I could maintain an erection with someone this big. Even with a blue pill. YIKES!

The old car salesman line "there's an ass for every seat" appears to apply here on this board to the Nth degree. I've been floored by some of the descriptions I've read on this board by mongers who have visited SP's with whom I've visited as well only to read descriptions often 180 degrees opposite my experience. Where I've read raves about certain SP's on this board, my YMMV experience often left me feeling the complete opposite. I'm not simply referring to performance. I'm referring to descriptions of the provider, her looks, body description, face and location. I yield when it comes to performance descriptions because women I find boring are often other's ATF. YMMV is clearly the rule of the road in our hobby.

As for the description department, let's talk about Kristy84.

Don't get me wrong. If you read my report on both the Cincinnati and Dayton boards (because she's in Middletown) you'll notice I strived to leave personal opinion out of the report. But that was nearly impossible given the extreme circumstances. I felt my opinion omission effort in my "escort classified ads – member discussions" board post was necessary to ensure there's no question I'm sticking to the rules of the board in addition to striving to be objective (again, given the circumstances). I decided to reveal how I really feel about it here in the Octagon.

So here's MHO about Kristy84.

Yes, she's sweet. Yes, she's agreeable, malleable, she means well, she's easy set up, she's not a clock watcher, and she's open-minded.

She's an overall 3-4 on my 1-10 scale at best. But that's mostly because she could be doing so much better for herself with little effort.

The no-tel room isn't unsafe. But man it's dirty to the point of disgusting. All that was missing was cat feces and urine odors (not unexpected by the look of the place). (And no, there was no cat shit or smell, just being poetic). I wished I brought a bed sheet but at least I was glad I brought a separate set of clothes and plastic bag to store my old ones once we were done. Cigarette smell permeated my clothes to the point they reeked to the point where I had to freshen my car afterward. There was trash overfilling the cans. Clothes everywhere. And grime on the walls, floors, sink, and surfaces that hasn't seen a wipe by some kind of cleaning apparatus for at least a month. At least she honored my request before arrival to be freshly showered. But I'm warning you team, this girl's incall is the most disgusting I've encountered so far. The only SP that had a worse cigarette problem was EE's Melea. And even Natti GFE / Allison's old place near Covington at least had a semi clean shower, sink and toilet and sheets (though the rest of her place was a scene out of an episode of "Hoarders"). Kristy's place? A dump AND dirty. Never going back there.

But this Octagon rant isn't just about Kristy84. It's about the rest of you USA monger members who have been praising this woman. What makes me crazy is nobody seems to have really warned us. I read the old reports and the no-tel was criticized before. So is this a YMMV scenario? Or am I the only monger here with the honestly and guts to tell it like it is?

Then there's her chat / dialogue during the session. Attention Kristy: do think I really want to know about the four kids you popped out of that little spinner body of yours? It's one thing to be able to conclude you're a MILF via the pooch / gut you've got down below. But once you volunteered about your four offspring, I had to take another hit of the 420 to shield my imagination. Too much information Kristy. Same goes for your heart condition, living situation, and your family member who passed away. Do you really think we want your reality to blend into our fantasy?

For what it's worth, Kristy is a good sport. She plays well once you get going so my advice is once you arrive ask her to keep her personal life out of the fantasy and get to business as quickly as possible. The condition of her teeth left me unwilling to even consider possible LFK much less DFK. But I must admit I was impressed with the condition of her mammaries given the four cherubs she once nursed.

Repeat? Not only won't I repeat, I caution everyone to consider passing on a couple more cases of beer so you can save some cash and spend it towards getting much more milage out of your hard earned monger dollars by investing into the likes of Silk, Sassy Sexy, and some of the other fine SP's who provide highest quality personal hygiene in addition to their quality surroundings at the most reasonable rates in the country. Even SP's like Natti / Allison and Remmy at least have clean quarters despite any personal belongings disarray.

Sorry Kristy. Hopefully you'll take this to heart and clean up your act.

And fellow mongers: be fucking honest when you report please? Stop raving when there's nothing to rave about?

Next time Sassy Sexy doesn't answer her phone, I'll just wait until she does.

The mongernator.

I read the Mongernator's report. I'm amazed at the difference legalizing the hobby makes. I'm not commenting on the veracity of the report but if it's true a chick like that would be out of business so fast down here because the market just wouldn't tolerate it and competition is fucking tough. These chicks here buy lights, mirrors, several different shampoo's and body soaps for the bathrooms and generally change the sheets with every customer. They keep beer, coca cola, whisky, water, condoms, candy, smokes. Hell they will keep your supply of condoms there if you want.

This kind of shit just wouldn't fly, it would be all over the local forum in an hour and nobody would call.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2056534]I read the Mongernator's report. I'm amazed at the difference legalizing the hobby makes. I'm not commenting on the veracity of the report but if it's true a chick like that would be out of business so fast down here because the market just wouldn't tolerate it and competition is fucking tough. These chicks here buy lights, mirrors, several different shampoo's and body soaps for the bathrooms and generally change the sheets with every customer. They keep beer, coca cola, whisky, water, condoms, candy, smokes. Hell they will keep your supply of condoms there if you want.

This kind of shit just wouldn't fly, it would be all over the local forum in an hour and nobody would call.

A2.[/QUOTE]Since I am not living where you are I can't comment on the girls there but here as you know there is a Big heroin problem. Drugs as you know will make you lax on everything you were taught in your formative years. I believe without the drugs a lot of these ladies wouldn't be as bad as they are. I've never met a person on drugs male or female that had any motivation to do anything accept lie cheat or steal, simple lifestyle things like hygiene are an after thought.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2056624]Since I am not living where you are I can't comment on the girls there but here as you know there is a Big heroin problem. Drugs as you know will make you lax on everything you were taught in your formative years. I believe without the drugs a lot of these ladies wouldn't be as bad as they are. I've never met a person on drugs male or female that had any motivation to do anything accept lie cheat or steal, simple lifestyle things like hygiene are an after thought.[/QUOTE]I'm sure that most of the chicks in the biz here prolly smoke a little weed, most people do here, but you just don't see drug addicts except for the SW's in the really bad neighborhoods. It's another thing I attribute to the legal status of the hobby here. Drug addicts just can't compete with the rest of the market.

A college girl can make 5 times working part time as an escort to what she can make full time working at a 7-11, have her hours free, have a place and time for study and support the inevitable kid or two she has. So when the choice is between a healthy 22 year old hottie or a heroin addict... Well that's no choice at all.

It's why I want to smack all these, "prostitution creates drug addicts" assholes. It's the other way around.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2056534]I read the Mongernator's report. I'm amazed at the difference legalizing the hobby makes. I'm not commenting on the veracity of the report but if it's true a chick like that would be out of business so fast down here because the market just wouldn't tolerate it and competition is fucking tough. These chicks here buy lights, mirrors, several different shampoo's and body soaps for the bathrooms and generally change the sheets with every customer. They keep beer, coca cola, whisky, water, condoms, candy, smokes. Hell they will keep your supply of condoms there if you want.

This kind of shit just wouldn't fly, it would be all over the local forum in an hour and nobody would call.

A2.[/QUOTE]Your points are well taken, but I want to go farther. The USA was populated by by bluenose assholes who in many cases came here to escape religious persecution. What I believe the school books fail to mention is that the reason they were being prosecuted is because their religious views were so extreme and without tolerance that they would make everyone around them who didn't hold the same views miserable, if not dead. Take, for example, the burning and / or hanging of witches.

Moving to more recent times, beginning in the early part of the 1900's, the bandwagon got rolling with alcohol prohibition. You can read plenty about how fucked up that got with bathtub gin. When you make something the people want illegal, the people will get it anyway because a black market will form to supply it. Because it's a black market, there is no significant self regulation because providers of products have no incentive to become well known and recognized for their product because the attention would most likely land them in jail or worse. Then, when the people finally got fed up with alcohol prohibition, the government legalized it and taxed it to hell.

Unfortunately, due to the nature of government in general, and the desire of people in power to keep power, and to the stupidity of the american people in general, they decided they couldn't let all those revenue agents lose their jobs. Therefore, they decided to make smoke and pretty much everything else illegal. So now you have to buy your H on the street if you're so inclined, instead of at the local drugstore as you could before. So now alcohol is clean and pure, but drugs are laced with all kinds of shit in many cases. Gives the government another, self created reason to prohibit things the people want, and collect more tax revenue in the process. And power.

Same thing with the world's oldest profession. The providers, instead of being out in the open and competing on the basis of services, reputation for cleanliness, amenities, etc, in the open, have to work in the shadows, which allows and encourages a lot of bullshit.

Another example of how the government screws the people. Thank you for the use of your soapbox.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2056817]I'm sure that most of the chicks in the biz here prolly smoke a little weed, most people do here, but you just don't see drug addicts except for the SW's in the really bad neighborhoods. It's another thing I attribute to the legal status of the hobby here. Drug addicts just can't compete with the rest of the market.

A college girl can make 5 times working part time as an escort to what she can make full time working at a 7-11, have her hours free, have a place and time for study and support the inevitable kid or two she has. So when the choice is between a healthy 22 year old hottie or a heroin addict... Well that's no choice at all.

It's why I want to smack all these, "prostitution creates drug addicts" assholes. It's the other way around.

A2.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head, over here if a girl starts using the forum to get thru college it's on the news. I'm not making this up our local station channel 12 just did a story on it a few weeks ago. It's like these girls are doing something unworldly. Shit I wish it was the other way around and women paid for dick, I'm not talking about the lady that might need a gigolo every now and then I'm talking like female mongers I'd be the busiest girl around and raking in as many dollars as I could.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2056817]I'm sure that most of the chicks in the biz here prolly smoke a little weed, most people do here, but you just don't see drug addicts except for the SW's in the really bad neighborhoods. It's another thing I attribute to the legal status of the hobby here. Drug addicts just can't compete with the rest of the market.

A college girl can make 5 times working part time as an escort to what she can make full time working at a 7-11, have her hours free, have a place and time for study and support the inevitable kid or two she has. So when the choice is between a healthy 22 year old hottie or a heroin addict... Well that's no choice at all.

It's why I want to smack all these, "prostitution creates drug addicts" assholes. It's the other way around.

A2.[/QUOTE]With the cost of living in Cincinnati, non-drug-addicted women really don't need to be escorts to make a living for the most part. I think the college girls working their way through school this way can do so more readily by seeking out sugar daddies rather than advertising continuously. So you really have mostly drug addicts working the trade here, and once they've got an arrest or two, they really don't have nearly as much choice. If you're talking about bigger cities with higher rents, you really do have college or grad students or others with decent jobs escorting on the side to pay rent.

I know many guys believe their faves here aren't drug addicts. But, as I've said before, you are probably wrong. Take this as advice from someone who has believed the same thing, only to be proved wrong over and over again. The reason the trade is thriving here is largely because heroin is thriving here.

I lost my home due to fire a year ago was forced to go to a hotel and with rent being 60 a night plus food cigs gas car insurance car payment kids and anything else my cost if living is substantial so drugs wouldn't even figure into my financial situation.

[QUOTE=Bucks97;2057127]With the cost of living in Cincinnati, non-drug-addicted women really don't need to be escorts to make a living for the most part. I think the college girls working their way through school this way can do so more readily by seeking out sugar daddies rather than advertising continuously. So you really have mostly drug addicts working the trade here, and once they've got an arrest or two, they really don't have nearly as much choice. If you're talking about bigger cities with higher rents, you really do have college or grad students or others with decent jobs escorting on the side to pay rent.

I know many guys believe their faves here aren't drug addicts. But, as I've said before, you are probably wrong. Take this as advice from someone who has believed the same thing, only to be proved wrong over and over again. The reason the trade is thriving here is largely because heroin is thriving here.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Bucks97;2057127]With the cost of living in Cincinnati, non-drug-addicted women really don't need to be escorts to make a living for the most part. I think the college girls working their way through school this way can do so more readily by seeking out sugar daddies rather than advertising continuously. So you really have mostly drug addicts working the trade here, and once they've got an arrest or two, they really don't have nearly as much choice. If you're talking about bigger cities with higher rents, you really do have college or grad students or others with decent jobs escorting on the side to pay rent.

I know many guys believe their faves here aren't drug addicts. But, as I've said before, you are probably wrong. Take this as advice from someone who has believed the same thing, only to be proved wrong over and over again. The reason the trade is thriving here is largely because heroin is thriving here.[/QUOTE]I'll start this with You don't know what the fuck you're talking about!

I didn't really mean that, I just haven't said it in awhile.

Here, since ala carte is both legal and WIDELY available (30,000 sex workers in Buenos Aires) you don't see a lot of sugar daddy deals. One of the main reasons you see it up there (IMHO) is because it's against the law, guys want to find something hot, AND safe. If there were 500 hotties that were safe why would you pay 20 K a month when you could pay 100 an hour while you're actually using the service and have a bunch to choose from?

I'm sure there would be some SB action, just as there is here because some guys dig the idea of (but generally not the reality of) exclusivity.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;2057310]I was in the mood for a little body rub today. I wanted more than what I get from the AMP that I visit for a serious massage. So I contacted Heather. I had texted with her a few times in past, just never had a good time for both of us. After seeing someone blast her and her room mate today about being a rip off, I had to see for my self. (no such thing as bad publicity I guess) A few text, a short phone call and an hour later I was on my way.

I Spent an hour with this hot little spinner. She has a very nice little body & great personality. Nice incall location, I felt safe, it was clean & comfortable. Not even close to a therapeutic massage but a very sensual woman's touch. If you like the feel of a woman rubbing and caressing you from head to toe, you will will enjoy her body rub. I certainly enjoyed it. My session lasted about an hour on the nose but it was a very comfortable hour. Never was she in a rush. She finished me off with an amazing BBBJ. And I mean fished me off!

We discussed her menu earlier and although I didn't enjoy FS it was on menu. She also offers two girl action with her room mate. Her rate was $.5 Hour. A bit much for just BBBJ you might say but FS wasn't denied just never got that far. I was 100% satisfied. I will repeat as funds allow. Next time I'll enjoy the FS.

As they say YMMV. For me, she was nothing close to a rip off. She was worth every penny! Hell I'm getting involuntary moment in my lower abdominal area just thinking about her now![/QUOTE]If you did a hour you should get two pops.

[QUOTE=BigMike77;2057418]If you did a hour you should get two pops.[/QUOTE]So, now your telling me how I should spend my time? Tell you what, when you pay for my time, you can tell me when and how to pop. What part of 100% satisfied don't you get?

Does anyone here besides me have a tendency to start busting out laughing during climax? Been dealing with this for years. I also yell out famous brand names of candy.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2055546]Yes, if you like DATY it's all you can eat.[/QUOTE]If she puts a dollar in her belt, it's ALL you can EAT under a DOLLAR!

[QUOTE=NKY747;2057643]Does anyone here besides me have a tendency to start busting out laughing during climax? Been dealing with this for years. I also yell out famous brand names of candy.[/QUOTE]Only if I'm with a babe named Ruth.