[QUOTE=MikaPeltinin;4087630]Kelly is fun just sayin.
Mika.[/QUOTE]She's back will be seeing her soon! Go check her out. Much fun.
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[QUOTE=MikaPeltinin;4087630]Kelly is fun just sayin.
Mika.[/QUOTE]She's back will be seeing her soon! Go check her out. Much fun.
[QUOTE=WiLurker;4110498]Did a search, but no name to go off of. Anyone have any experience? Is she worth a short road trip?
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/girl-with-sass-yet-a-whole-lot/464074598769[/URL]
TIA.[/QUOTE]For the guys that know, this is Molly, right? I was a little tempted, but she's just a bit to close to me, rural area wise. I don't want to shit where I live.
All this shit is ultimately foolish. In my time doing this, there are very few girls I'd like to see again. Shae, Sam, Native Shae, Brittan, Skyler (from SA). But most of them are gone. This shit ages girls. And it destroys our souls.
Anyway, one thing I've learned: Walk away.
You trying to negotiate with a girl? Your best tool is two words: "No thanks. ".
You'll thank yourself.
[QUOTE=WiLurker;4110498]Did a search, but no name to go off of. Anyone have any experience? Is she worth a short road trip?
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/other/girl-with-sass-yet-a-whole-lot/464074598769[/URL]
TIA.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what her name is. She told me but I can't remember. I think it started with a T. I enjoyed my visit. She was clean and nice. It is a long trip, but I hope to get there again.
[QUOTE=Cheesytwo;4112790]I am not sure what her name is. She told me but I can't remember. I think it started with a T. I enjoyed my visit. She was clean and nice. It is a long trip, but I hope to get there again.[/QUOTE]Can you comment on the menu and donation?
[QUOTE=PopeyeMadison;4112784]All this shit is ultimately foolish. In my time doing this, there are very few girls I'd like to see again. Shae, Sam, Native Shae, Brittan, Skyler (from SA). But most of them are gone. This shit ages girls. And it destroys our souls.
Anyway, one thing I've learned: Walk away.
You trying to negotiate with a girl? Your best tool is two words: "No thanks. ".
You'll thank yourself.[/QUOTE]In the last year I have walked away more than not. Maybe it's an age thing. , but I have gotten pretty sick of wasting so much time and not even getting a sniff!
[QUOTE=Andy54;4112914]In the last year I have walked away more than not. Maybe it's an age thing. , but I have gotten pretty sick of wasting so much time and not even getting a sniff![/QUOTE]I visit Madison on business occasionally and always feel more comfortable having the ladies come see me at the hotel I am staying at. Do you guys have any guidance on how to go about "walking away" when they are coming to visit me? I haven't had any real bad experiences yet but I'm sure that day will come. Since they text me for the room # when they are in the parking lot and I don't get a chance to see them until they are standing right in front of me when I open the door.
Thanks for any advice you may be able to give me on this!
Who finds this enticing?
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/501-436-0922-call-neooowwww/964248531257[/URL]
[QUOTE=DirkDiggler212;4083777]Saw her earlier this week.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sweet-and-discrete-caramel-tre/395718776205[/URL]
Pictures are real, very nice and fit body cute face for the most part but had a couple crooked teeth (nothing drug related just honestly could've used some braces), incall location was pretty decent too, felt clean and safe. Was quoted 70 qv, 100 hh, 200 hr and went with the hhr which turned into close to a full hr for only 100. Started with some light kissing but soon we were DFK, I've read she only does closed lips before though so YMMV. She was on top of me grinding on Jr the whole time too which was nice and managed to catch her titties and suck on her pierced nips a few times which she seemed to enjoy.
After some more kissing and what not she gave me a pretty solid but standard BBBJ for a good amount of time. After a bit of that I asked to fuck her so she busted out a condom, put it on me and rode me for days. Not sure if she just really likes riding on top but that went on for quite some time. She eventually came and had to take a quick break to get water LOL but after that she lied on her side and I got behind her for a bit. Idk if nerves got me or what but I was having a hard time finishing, so I asked her to go back to the BBBJ and use the hand until I finally busted.
After that we chatted a bit and she was never in a rush to get me out of there, very nice girl. I gave her the donation after we were done right before I left, damage 100 and for about 50 minutes. Overall a solid dream, give the body a 9/10, service 8/10, would definitely repeat in the upcoming future, please treat her right guys and be safe out there.[/QUOTE]The link is dead. Just wondering if this is about BELLA? 2 numbers, ending in 2790 & 6067?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=PopeyeMadison;4113186]Who finds this enticing?
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/501-436-0922-call-neooowwww/964248531257[/URL][/QUOTE]I guess you can say what you want, when you KNOW all the right spots to touch, and have a rare long or short hair, capability!
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/taste-like-candy/062478299927[/URL]
Does anyone have any info about this provider?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=HornyMF;4112946]I visit Madison on business occasionally and always feel more comfortable having the ladies come see me at the hotel I am staying at. Do you guys have any guidance on how to go about "walking away" when they are coming to visit me? I haven't had any real bad experiences yet but I'm sure that day will come. Since they text me for the room # when they are in the parking lot and I don't get a chance to see them until they are standing right in front of me when I open the door.
Thanks for any advice you may be able to give me on this![/QUOTE]Do an "interview" meeting at a remote location before inviting the girl to your room. Coffee at McD's would suffice. Also gives one the opportunity to scope out possible managers / drivers / etc.
[QUOTE=HornyMF;4112946]I visit Madison on business occasionally and always feel more comfortable having the ladies come see me at the hotel I am staying at. Do you guys have any guidance on how to go about "walking away" when they are coming to visit me? I haven't had any real bad experiences yet but I'm sure that day will come. Since they text me for the room # when they are in the parking lot and I don't get a chance to see them until they are standing right in front of me when I open the door.
Thanks for any advice you may be able to give me on this![/QUOTE]I was out of town a while ago. Brought a girl to my hotel. I met her outside. She had brought a friend. Red flag. I know it sounds like a fantasy, but in my experience 2 girl is a setup to rob (one distracts you while the other rifles through your shit). I refused to let the other girl come to my room. I should have just walked away at that point. Because once one girl is in your room, she can let the other one in. You think you can keep her from doing that? You've just turned a bad situation into something worse. It went downhill. They threaten me. Eventually, I realize, "How the fuck do I get them to leave?
I did cum inside the girl before the shit hit the fan, so there's that. And I spent in total (after the extortion) less than she'd asked for originally. LOL.
My point is: Be wary of any situation that you can't walk away from.
[QUOTE=PopeyeMadison;4113186]Who finds this enticing?
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/501-436-0922-call-neooowwww/964248531257[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey Pop, I saw this one to. Personally, I don't appreciate the "FU" or the middle finger treatment. It seems the message is pretty clear. You're going to get screwed but not laid.
D 101.
That's what some of the girls advertise, or in their ad it will show available all hours. I would suggest if you (like me) have limited time and get frustrated easily, wait until afternoons and later. I've sent out 8 texts this morning and haven't heard back from any. Noon was my deadline, so I guess I just sit here with dick in hand, LOL.
[QUOTE=Sg2006;4113214][URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/taste-like-candy/062478299927[/URL]
Does anyone have any info about this provider?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Says female escort in Green Bay so not around here. & I bet fake.
[QUOTE=CurbFeeler;4113781]Says female escort in Green Bay so not around here. & I bet fake.[/QUOTE]I don't see the reference to G. B. I could just be missing it somewhere. The weight is listed at 141#and bust 38. Two of the pictures show a girl who is 98# soaking wet and a 32 A cup at best. The other two pictures I've seen before and between the 4 of them I'd have to agree it's probably fake.
[QUOTE=RawlSocket;4113592]That's what some of the girls advertise, or in their ad it will show available all hours. I would suggest if you (like me) have limited time and get frustrated easily, wait until afternoons and later. I've sent out 8 texts this morning and haven't heard back from any. Noon was my deadline, so I guess I just sit here with dick in hand, LOL.[/QUOTE]You can pretty much expect the communication to be unreliable and sporadic. Many of these girls have very limited horizons for planning. 12 dudes are texting me at once. Who should I see? Whoever shows up first. What about the rest? Why worry about that as there's an endless horde of dudes ready to stick their dick in my mouth.
My approach is to blast as many as I can when I'm on the hunt. And ask whatever questions I want, in the most patient and kind but clear and direct way I can. The ones who refuse to answer or go radio silent? I'll try them (from a different number) another day. Often I come up empty. Which is just fine with me.
When you come to appreciate that all the forms of No are really eliminating a waste of time from your day, you really can savor all that rejection and failure. I might be wasting my time trying to find what I'm looking for. But at least I'm not shelling out cash for what I'm not looking for.
(And yet I still do.).
Pretty much how you have to do it when your regular isn’t available or you're in new territory. Did the same thing tonight. Wound up with Hunter driving to me in this mess:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sensual-fun-stunning-real-rea/818638375401[/URL]
Very friendly and nice looking on the STG scale (formerly BP), a little heavier than what her pictures make her out to be. So business as usual. Service was uninspired, very limited menu but OK head game, she upsells for CIM, didn't ask what it was.
Won't repeat.
[QUOTE=PopeyeMadison;4114142]You can pretty much expect the communication to be unreliable and sporadic. Many of these girls have very limited horizons for planning. 12 dudes are texting me at once. Who should I see? Whoever shows up first. What about the rest? Why worry about that as there's an endless horde of dudes ready to stick their dick in my mouth.
My approach is to blast as many as I can when I'm on the hunt. And ask whatever questions I want, in the most patient and kind but clear and direct way I can. The ones who refuse to answer or go radio silent? I'll try them (from a different number) another day. Often I come up empty. Which is just fine with me.
When you come to appreciate that all the forms of No are really eliminating a waste of time from your day, you really can savor all that rejection and failure. I might be wasting my time trying to find what I'm looking for. But at least I'm not shelling out cash for what I'm not looking for.
(And yet I still do.).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HornyMF;4112946]I visit Madison on business occasionally and always feel more comfortable having the ladies come see me at the hotel I am staying at. Do you guys have any guidance on how to go about "walking away" when they are coming to visit me? I haven't had any real bad experiences yet but I'm sure that day will come. Since they text me for the room # when they are in the parking lot and I don't get a chance to see them until they are standing right in front of me when I open the door.
Thanks for any advice you may be able to give me on this![/QUOTE]I don't give my room number. I tell them I will meet them at a back door and walk them up for their safety. I tell them to park by that door. If I am uneasy about them, I have waited in my car for their arrival. If things look ok, I leave my car and tell them I was getting something as we go to the door. One time the car pulled up, and a guy got out and hid around the corner of the building by the door. She texted, I started my car, turned off my phone and drove off to dinner. Lesson learned. One girl ignored my directions, entered the hotel and called my room while she stood outside the manager's office. She was an idiot. The plan isn't foolproof.
I don't know about you guys, but this whole heroin thing is making things really unpleasant most of the time.
[QUOTE=TimWatley1973;4114372]Pretty much how you have to do it when your regular isnt available or you're in new territory. Did the same thing tonight. Wound up with Hunter driving to me in this mess:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sensual-fun-stunning-real-rea/818638375401[/URL]
Very friendly and nice looking on the STG scale (formerly BP), a little heavier than what her pictures make her out to be. So business as usual. Service was uninspired, very limited menu but OK head game, she upsells for CIM, didn't ask what it was.
Won't repeat.[/QUOTE]This report is helpful.
For the longest time, I've been sort of interested in seeing her. My interest is tempered mostly by her attitude, her responsiveness (some days I get no reply at all even though she has an ad up), the relatively consistent reports of her looks (average ish, heavier), the shifting menu with upselling (she once told me DATY was $300, LOL, nowadays it's part of the base package? Who knows).
[QUOTE=TheRealUardo;4108082]I saw her a while back when she was doing the 2 girl with her friend Victoria. I found Victoria much more attractive, but Lucy gave a decent BBBJ from what I remember.
Wish Victoria was still around.[/QUOTE]I never saw Victoria. This one, right?
[QUOTE=PopeyeMadison;4114702]I never saw Victoria. This one, right?[/QUOTE]That's her.
I saw Lily recently:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/lily-new-professional-discrete/342167937612[/URL]
She's tiny, cute, and very passionate. Hygiene is not great, though. Ah, the smell of high volume. No DATY. Probably for the better.
The incall is a residence in a sketchy neighborhood. There are other people inside during the session. They didn't mind me and didn't interfere. Still, I very much dislike that without being told in advance (which she did not do).
I enjoyed our time. She's very sweet. With a different incall and if she were fresh and clean, I'd probably repeat. This is the girl who started out asking $350. In general, you just need to wait on those. Eventually, the price reflects the market.
$120 hh.
I'm not sure if this has happened to anyone else before but a while back before New Years I thought about getting into my hobby a little more, so went to the usual STG and landed on what I thought would be a thick black woman probably mid twenties. (My fantasy has always been to smash a thick black woman with a phat ass), anyways I message her and get the directions to the hotel. I ended up taking a little longer than usual due to slippery roads and as I walk up to the room I hear a bunch of ladies talking and quick stepping around. I'm confused but I hadn't heard a mans voice so I stuck around. This thin black woman probably 23-24 greets me and says she'll do the service, now mind you I didn't ask for the skinny one I wanted the thick one with a phat booty but I didn't complain as she kept claiming her tight pussy would satisfy me eitherway, so I said fuck it and started off with some CBJ it was decent but I've gotten better and end up going with reverse cowgirl and ending with doggy, she was right her pussy was real tight and creamy. Then I forget that I had heard voices before entering so when I finished I was heading to the bathroom and I open the door to 4 other woman inside on their phones in the dark. Now I didn't get enough time to see all of them before the skinny one closed the door and said that it's in use. When I got to my car I was laughing my ass off due to my smashing one of the girls toes with the door on accident but I was a little sketched out by not getting the thick woman but satisfied either way with the right skinny one.
[QUOTE=PopeyeMadison;4115382]I saw Lily recently:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/lily-new-professional-discrete/342167937612[/URL]
She's tiny, cute, and very passionate. Hygiene is not great, though. Ah, the smell of high volume. No DATY. Probably for the better.
The incall is a residence in a sketchy neighborhood. There are other people inside during the session. They didn't mind me and didn't interfere. Still, I very much dislike that without being told in advance (which she did not do).
I enjoyed our time. She's very sweet. With a different incall and if she were fresh and clean, I'd probably repeat. This is the girl who started out asking $350. In general, you just need to wait on those. Eventually, the price reflects the market.
$120 hh.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report Popeye.
I have never seen this post before which happens often. I'm checking what might be available often enough. Every so often I see a report from STG and I had never seen the link before. I might need to change my browser.
[QUOTE=Bino608;4115621]I'm not sure if this has happened to anyone else before but a while back before New Years I thought about getting into my hobby a little more, so went to the usual STG and landed on what I thought would be a thick black woman probably mid twenties. (My fantasy has always been to smash a thick black woman with a phat ass), anyways I message her and get the directions to the hotel. I ended up taking a little longer than usual due to slippery roads and as I walk up to the room I hear a bunch of ladies talking and quick stepping around. I'm confused but I hadn't heard a mans voice so I stuck around. This thin black woman probably 23-24 greets me and says she'll do the service, now mind you I didn't ask for the skinny one I wanted the thick one with a phat booty but I didn't complain as she kept claiming her tight pussy would satisfy me eitherway, so I said fuck it and started off with some CBJ it was decent but I've gotten better and end up going with reverse cowgirl and ending with doggy, she was right her pussy was real tight and creamy. Then I forget that I had heard voices before entering so when I finished I was heading to the bathroom and I open the door to 4 other woman inside on their phones in the dark. Now I didn't get enough time to see all of them before the skinny one closed the door and said that it's in use. When I got to my car I was laughing my ass off due to my smashing one of the girls toes with the door on accident but I was a little sketched out by not getting the thick woman but satisfied either way with the right skinny one.[/QUOTE]I love stories like this. Gives people a flavor for how crazy this shit is. So did you find that thick black ass? Would you see the skinny girl again?
Curious what ad you responded to. This is not my thing, but to each their own. I have a strong preference for white girls, preferably slim / athletic, GND types.
[QUOTE=Bino608;4115621]I'm not sure if this has happened to anyone else before but a while back before New Years I thought about getting into my hobby a little more, so went to the usual STG and landed on what I thought would be a thick black woman probably mid twenties. (My fantasy has always been to smash a thick black woman with a phat ass), anyways I message her and get the directions to the hotel. I ended up taking a little longer than usual due to slippery roads and as I walk up to the room I hear a bunch of ladies talking and quick stepping around. I'm confused but I hadn't heard a mans voice so I stuck around. This thin black woman probably 23-24 greets me and says she'll do the service, now mind you I didn't ask for the skinny one I wanted the thick one with a phat booty but I didn't complain as she kept claiming her tight pussy would satisfy me eitherway, so I said fuck it and started off with some CBJ it was decent but I've gotten better and end up going with reverse cowgirl and ending with doggy, she was right her pussy was real tight and creamy. Then I forget that I had heard voices before entering so when I finished I was heading to the bathroom and I open the door to 4 other woman inside on their phones in the dark. Now I didn't get enough time to see all of them before the skinny one closed the door and said that it's in use. When I got to my car I was laughing my ass off due to my smashing one of the girls toes with the door on accident but I was a little sketched out by not getting the thick woman but satisfied either way with the right skinny one.[/QUOTE]Once you get into that pussy size does not matter. Just hit it hard. LOL.
[QUOTE=Wirascal;4107898]Wish I could copy and paste, Used to see this one couple summers ago. Nice little spinner not much tits though. Well I was glad she posted yesterday. Went to see her at nice hotel.
Some very light DATY, She does not BJ. But nice little body. A little FIV then she goes to bathroom and says she just got her period. Proceeded with HJ then complained her arms hurt and that she had to leave soon.
Well the little * just posted today at 3:16 pm post says young and beautiful age 22 little ribbon tat above her left but cheek. A one day period? LOL I am not having much luck lately.[/QUOTE]I think you are reviewing this girl:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/young-beautiful/810504659106[/URL]
She says her name is Molly. I think it's the Molly that used to post a while ago that I'd seen a few times. Super cute. But she doesn't really get into the session. I swore I'd never see her again after the last visit.
At lower 20's or barely above 18. Most of them don't know what they want and how to please their food givers.
Above 23 and below 30 are my favorite.
Xx.
[QUOTE=PopeyeMadison;4116349]I think you are reviewing this girl:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/young-beautiful/810504659106[/URL]
She says her name is Molly. I think it's the Molly that used to post a while ago that I'd seen a few times. Super cute. But she doesn't really get into the session. I swore I'd never see her again after the last visit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XiaoXing;4116371]At lower 20's or barely above 18. Most of them don't know what they want and how to please their food givers.
Above 23 and below 30 are my favorite.
Xx.[/QUOTE]Popeye is right. It's the same Molly from Sun Prairie who shared an apartment with her sister Katie.
Katie is in town and has a room!! I like Katie over Molly.
[QUOTE=TommyMke;4116385]Popeye is right. It's the same Molly from Sun Prairie who shared an apartment with her sister Katie.
Katie is in town and has a room!! I like Katie over Molly.[/QUOTE]Hmm, does Katie have an ad?
Went to see this provider [URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/new-seductivesnow-bunny-call/149791836658[/URL] looked no where close to the pictures. Silent and cold. Didn't really listen got mad at me for trying to guide her blowjob speed. Overall just a bad visit. Would defiantly say to not visit her.
[QUOTE=PopeyeMadison;4116389]Hmm, does Katie have an ad?[/QUOTE][URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/wanting-some-fun/483841463943[/URL]
[QUOTE=Shooter61;4109598]I have a snap code for her. Hope this works for you.[/QUOTE]Any luck with this one?
[QUOTE=Howard5354;4116167]Once you get into that pussy size does not matter. Just hit it hard. LOL.[/QUOTE]You need to write a book, Howard. Priceless gems. I don't always share the same taste, but I appreciate your style.
[QUOTE=BrunoMadison;4116460][URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/wanting-some-fun/483841463943[/URL][/QUOTE]That's Molly's sister? They look very different.
Maybe a year or two ago, when Molly first came on the scene, I went to see someone who was supposedly her sister. She was at a hotel that made the Aloha look like the Ritz. It was what I imagine wandering through a favela might be like. I had to bail, not just because of the conditions. The girl looked like she'd had a hard life. She was very friendly and nice. But I could not stay.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/baby-its-cold-outside-lets-war/038748480234[/URL]
My take is: the pics are pretty flattering, so if you're on the edge of a decision (like I was) know that. If you're looking for something quick and easy (setup) and want a good hoovering I might recommend. I thought I was in the mood for that, but regretted it after. I won't repeat. But I'm very picky, too.
Lotsa new talent in Madison off-late!! I'm so happy there's so much to choose from!!
Here's a few I've texted recently but not yet seen!!
Mariah. Only car dates / BJ tonight.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/beautiful-fun-heart-of-gold-oc/208035913550[/URL]
Thia.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sweet-and-sexy/272791797974[/URL]
Snow Bunny. Reviewed earlier today. Not too good.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/new-seductivesnow-bunny-call/149791836658[/URL]
Lily. Good review earlier today by Popeye. Has incall near downtown tonight.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/new-petite-clean-woman-discret/068890311955[/URL]
Tasha. Hosting east side, works with Chloe.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/morning-relaxtion-6085013979/113802378817[/URL]
Chloe. Works with Tasha. Hosting east tonight.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/chloe-5807600085/896526644321[/URL]
[QUOTE=TommyMke;4116592]Lotsa new talent in Madison off-late!! I'm so happy there's so much to choose from!!
Here's a few I've texted recently but not yet seen!!
Mariah. Only car dates / BJ tonight.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/beautiful-fun-heart-of-gold-oc/208035913550[/URL]
Thia.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sweet-and-sexy/272791797974[/URL]
Snow Bunny. Reviewed earlier today. Not too good.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/new-seductivesnow-bunny-call/149791836658[/URL]
Lily. Good review earlier today by Popeye. Has incall near downtown tonight.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/new-petite-clean-woman-discret/068890311955[/URL]
Tasha. Hosting east side, works with Chloe.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/morning-relaxtion-6085013979/113802378817[/URL]
Chloe. Works with Tasha. Hosting east tonight.
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/chloe-5807600085/896526644321[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice run down.
Thia is the Thia / Mandy reviewed here recently. She's not new per se. New pics.
To repeat my review of her:
Pros: Her body is amazing, tight, slim / athletic. I find her face attractive. Long luxurious hair.
Cons: High volume, possibly managed, you may get lucky and find her when she's engaged and present. More likely you'll get the nearly dead fish who can't let go of her cigarette.