[QUOTE=Puzzee Liquor;1767434]Wondering if that could be Gaetana (stage name) from old Candy Store days.[/QUOTE]Katana, actually, like the sword.
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[QUOTE=Puzzee Liquor;1767434]Wondering if that could be Gaetana (stage name) from old Candy Store days.[/QUOTE]Katana, actually, like the sword.
Can anyone tell me anything about Foxy? Would I be wasting my time with this girl?
I'm from the Detroit, MI area on business and decided to stop at Venom last night based on a lot of the forum reviews. I paid $5 at the door and sat at the bar for a while. There weren't that many girls working and only the tanned Puerto Rican one (who says she's only been there a week, she goes by Monee' as a stage name I believe) actually came up to me and said hello. She had a great body for 31yrs old with 3 kids. I consider the drinks there to be cheap compared to Detroit strip bars, so I bought her a beer and she walks me over to the upper level on the right side of the club. I asked her to give me prices on dances, the VIP sections, etc. I believe she quoted me the following:
1. $10 per dance on the main floor.
2. $20 to get into the VIP section (to the left when you walk into the club) and $15 per dance once you're in.
3. The other VIP section on the right-side of the club with the booths and private curtains was $15 per 15 minutes (which is paid to the house / DJ) , and $100 PER 15 minutes to the girl.
I asked her to repeat #3 and then I just started to laugh. She says,"Oh, and I give a very sensual dance but there's no sex or anything". So as we're standing there talking I slowly usher her back to the main floor and she says,"We're not staying up here?". I told her,"No baby, let's sit & talk some more and I'll buy you another drink." So of course I got the whole stripper story of how she's going to school, hasn't danced in 12yrs, etc, then I finally let her give me 2 dances on the main floor. They were pretty good and fairly high mileage considering everyone could see us. After that the club started filling up with more customers and I just told her to check in with me later after she made her rounds.
There were a few more girls who came in throughout the night, but none of them appeared to be interested in approaching me. I wasn't the only black guy in the club so I'm not going to say it was a racist thing, perhaps they were just judging me by my cargo shorts and the polo shirt I was wearing. A lot of the dancers were at their regulars side all night, so I figure it was their loss and they saved me LOTS of money, LOL. I did get 2 more dances from this blond haired white girl who was pretty thick, but I wasn't very impressed with her. All in all I spent about $100 bucks between dances & drinks / tips to the bartender. Speaking of the bartender, she looks like she got collagen injections in her lips and they don't fit her face. Poor girl, LOL.
I may give this place another chance, but I think I'd rather find a chick who I can hook up with on the regular while I'm in town. I'll be here a few more times throughout the summer and will probably try the regular clubs as well as TD's and Curves next time. BTW, there was a black dancer with blond hair who I was interested in as well? Is she any good in the VIP and negotiable?
[QUOTE=CapAndCoke;1769895]Can anyone tell me anything about Foxy? Would I be wasting my time with this girl?[/QUOTE]Take out is available and well worth it!
He didn't give out any personal info and just posted his experience like everyone else. I've seen "Senior Members" post MUCH MUCH more info on girls. You have hundreds of posts under your belt. Have you read what's been posted by members of this forum about Venom within the last couple of weeks? You're barking up the wrong tree.
[QUOTE=Desert Dog;1770134]Wow! Why don't you just post her social security number while your at it?[/QUOTE]
Ahh. Yet another day in the exciting city of Tucson! So tonight I headed over to TD's West since it was only 3 miles away from my hotel (I should've went there instead of Venom last night!). I had a much better time here and the girls were exactly how I like them (black, white, latina, etc.). When I parked in the front of the club a guy came over and said that was a VIP section and it cost $5 to park there. The free parking was full so I just gave him the money and told him to chill on the "we watch your car" hustle. I made sure to befriend the waitresses and bartenders and got a total of 4 dances. My first 2 table dances had excellent mileage from a black chick with glasses (the only one in the club) and she worked it hard. The biggest girl in the club wasn't getting many dances from customers (even when it was busy as hell) , so I had her dance for me and she seemed appreciative. Her hygiene seemed questionable while she was dancing, so I wouldn't repeat. I don't remember her name, but if you see her you'll definitely wonder how she's evening still making money as a dancer.
The end of the night was the typical strip bar scenario: Either the girls crowded around groups of guys or their regulars, or they left early and left slim pickings for the rest of the customers. I made sure to tip the bartender and my waitress all night and they introduced me to her manager and asked me to come back tomorrow (no doubt for more tips and money). The bartender and waitress were actually real sweethearts, so I might stop in during happy hour for a drink before I leave at the end of the week. As far as prices go, it was the following:
1. Table dances are $7. If a girl tells you it's $10 she's just trying to take advantage of you. One of them tried this on me, but I got a hell of a dance so I told her I knew the real price but I would let her keep the change. She looked kind of embarrassed and just said thank you and moved on.
2. Dances on the couches are $10 a piece.
3. The champagne room is located directly across from the bar on the right-hand side. They have different specials (they had a $60 bottle special tonight, but I was just by myself so I didn't go for it) but most are not cheap. However, if you're with a group of people it might be worth looking into.
4. The VIP room has a one time charge of $22 with no re-entry fee. So you can leave the VIP, find a girl you like, and take her back without paying again. Dances in the VIP are typically $20 per dance. You can see back there from the bar area and as you walk towards the Men's bathroom. I didn't go for it this time and have no idea what extra benefits are included, but considering people can walk in at anytime I'm assuming the girls must be creative as hell in some compromising circumstances.
I j.
They had Hennessy for $6 per drink / shot which is a hell of a lot less than what I would pay in Michigan. Also, some of the girls told me that TD's West is considered "Ghetto" according to Tucson standards. I just laughed, because this place is what most middle of the road strip clubs should be like. All types of outgoing women who aren't afraid to chat you up make you feel at ease. I enjoyed this place more than Venmon. Time will only tell if that continues to be the case.
[QUOTE=Desert Dog;1770130]Take out is available and well worth it![/QUOTE]Now *I* want to know more! .
[QUOTE=Flintmonger;1770191]He didn't give out any personal info and just posted his experience like everyone else. I've seen "Senior Members" post MUCH MUCH more info on girls. You have hundreds of posts under your belt. Have you read what's been posted by members of this forum about Venom within the last couple of weeks? You're barking up the wrong tree.[/QUOTE]And most of the time when that much is put in one post all together one can expect to be reminded to try not to spell it all out. A little bit of subtlety goes a long way.
[QUOTE=Paladium;1770366]Now *I* want to know more! .[/QUOTE]Just ask her.
No disagreement there. I didn't mean to come off like an a$$ or anything. I may have had a few more shots than I should have last night, LOL.
[QUOTE=Desert Dog;1770859]And most of the time when that much is put in one post all together one can expect to be reminded to try not to spell it all out. A little bit of subtlety goes a long way.[/QUOTE]
Found myself in Tucson for a day and a half, so thought I'd find some daytime fun. I don't really know my way around but seeing the reviews of Venom I headed to that neighborhood to get the lay of the land. I was pretty psyched to get into Raider's Reef after having a look at it and I still regret not getting in there.
Started at TD's east around 2pm on a weekday. Maybe 4-5 patrons. 5-6 girls working. I thought I remembered a good review about Marie at TD's. A fit but ample assed latina with big nipples. She touched my junk when I tipped her at the stage, so I made sure to get some dances. She was very friendly rubbing on me and blowing hot air through my jeans. After 3-4 songs I decided to have a break, and although I rarely do, figured I would take her up on the offer for the VIP room- which she said had no admission but $20 a dance.
Marie went on a smoke break. Forever. The girls hang out at the tables of the auto shop next door and Marie stuck there until she needed to be on stage next. I stuck around long enough to go to VIP, where I was quickly charged $20 as an admission fee by waitress. The couch we were at had another couch back to back with another patron getting a dance. I was afraid Marie wouldn't be as friendly because of this, but I was wrong.
It only took her about a song to pull my member out. She gave me the same hot breathe treatment through my shirt this time. She loved having her clit rubbed. She would get her mouth real close to my member, lick her hand, then keep rubbing and asked "what does it taste like". Cotton candy I told her. I never did convince her to put it in her mouth. After 4 songs of this heavy petting session I let loose and made a mess of myself.
Here's my favorite part, while cleaning up a bit she asks "Are you a doctor? Or in like medical sales?" I guess the nice dress shirt I just made a mess of was pretty impressive. Here's my least favorite part, next Marie says to me-
"That will be $150." She responded to my surprise by saying "For 3 dances and all the extras". Her math isn't so good, but I couldn't blame her for trying to take me for that much extra money. I literally only had enough money for the dances I got, and intended to tip at my discretion for the extras. I gave her what I had, and she wanted to walk me to the atm, but I let her know I needed to clean myself up first.
After that I was nice enough to get $40 out of the atm for her, she was pretty involved on her cell phone while I withdrew and handed her that cash, and was pretty animated when looking at the $40 to say "that's not enough! You owe me money". We had a good rapport all afternoon, so I just touched her on the arm and told her to chill out, I'm going to have a smoke and I'll be right back ok? We'll talk?
She chilled, I walked. After THAT, I skipped on Venom and RR. Glad she didn't make a BIGGER scene, because I woulnd't hesitate to tell her boss, you know she's pretty much blowing people back there right? I'd have sooner called the cops myself then let some strip club strong arm me.
My advice is to put on a nice dress shirt, get the extras from Marie, then call her shit when she tries to upsell you.
Well I heard, through the grape vine that Marie is pregnant! About six months along, So it sounds like she's trying to set herself up with alittle extra cash for the upcoming months.
[QUOTE=CapAndCoke;1772783]Well I heard, through the grape vine that Marie is pregnant! About six months along, So it sounds like she's trying to set herself up with alittle extra cash for the upcoming months.[/QUOTE]Pregnant, can't imagine that the way she fucks just about anything that will step into the VIP.
First, I have been reading the thread. Reports on TD E&W, Venom and RR suggest that the draw is based less on looks, and more on performance. I'm preparing for a trip to PHX and TUS. I haven't visited in over ten years. (Back then, table dances were $5 each – those were the days!) I'm not interested in extras, per se. I'm interested in seeing really attractive topless or nude women-especially 'co-ed' types. Suggestions would be appreciated, as well as info on dance pricing at the table, couch, VIP levels. (I don't want to get fleeced). Thanks in advance*
Based on your criteria, I suggest you'll probably want to go to Curves. Higher standards for dancer's physical appearance than the other clubs, and a lot of young, new 'co-ed' dancers out of college trying to save up money for going back to school. Avoid 'fight nights'. Girls don't like to show up on that day because most of the men are just there for the free food, drinking and fighting; otherwise, Fri & Sat nights are best. But remember, as you insisted, they are very strict about 'extras' at Curves. Don't expect anything much more than a typical lap dance.
$10 on the floor, $17 on the couches (not worth it, in my opinion, because you are still on the floor for everyone to see at all times, so you don't get anything extra), or $20 in VIP + $20 to get in the door. I don't like their VIP because the black lights are nauseating.
Tens would be my second choice. They just hired a bunch of young, new dancers for the summer, as well, but they aren't very skilled or enthusiastic. However, you can get away with a lot more there, especially in VIP. And especially if you have a few drinks with the girls first (in case you change your mind.
$10 on the floor, $15 on the couches (I think...also not worth it for same reasons as above), $20 in VIP + $20 to go upstairs. What is great about Tens VIP, though, is that VIP dances are only $10 on Tuesdays.
[QUOTE=Qeast;1779390]First, I have been reading the thread. Reports on TD E&W, Venom and RR suggest that the draw is based less on looks, and more on performance. I'm preparing for a trip to PHX and TUS. I haven't visited in over ten years. (Back then, table dances were $5 each – those were the days!) I'm not interested in extras, per se. I'm interested in seeing really attractive topless or nude women-especially 'co-ed' types. Suggestions would be appreciated, as well as info on dance pricing at the table, couch, VIP levels. (I don't want to get fleeced). Thanks in advance*[/QUOTE]
Based on your desciption, that's what I'm looking for."different places, different faces"
[QUOTE=Desert Rat 520; 1779741]Based on your criteria, I suggest you'll probably want to go to Curves. Higher standards for dancer's physical appearance than the other clubs, and a lot of young, new 'co-ed' dancers out of college trying to save up money for going back to school. Avoid 'fight nights'. Girls don't like to show up on that day because most of the men are just there for the free food, drinking and fighting; otherwise, Fri & Sat nights are best. But remember, as you insisted, they are very strict about 'extras' at Curves. Don't expect anything much more than a typical lap dance.
$10 on the floor, $17 on the couches (not worth it, in my opinion, because you are still on the floor for everyone to see at all times, so you don't get anything extra) , or $20 in VIP + $20 to get in the door. I don't like their VIP because the black lights are nauseating.
Tens would be my second choice. They just hired a bunch of young, new dancers for the summer, as well, but they aren't very skilled or enthusiastic. However, you can get away with a lot more there, especially in VIP. And especially if you have a few drinks with the girls first (in case you change your mind.
$10 on the floor, $15 on the couches (I think. Also not worth it for same reasons as above) , $20 in VIP + $20 to go upstairs. What is great about Tens VIP, though, is that VIP dances are only $10 on Tuesdays.[/QUOTE]
After reading several reviews about RR I decided to pay the place a visit. I stopped by one afternoon to try and get a feel for the girls / action. So I spent several hours talking to different girls and seeing which girls were getting the most VIP room action.
One gals seemed to be getting MOST of the action in the VIP. I can not for the life of me remember her name. Maybe someone can help the boy. She was short with shoulder length brown hair. Probably in her late 20's to early 30's and she wore dark rimmed glasses. VERY friendly. Lots of hugging, touching, and kissing while sitting in your lap out on the main floor.
Unfortunately she was busy in the VIP for hours with several different guys, and by the time she was free it was getting late I had to head out. Although I didn't remember her name, she told me that she only works the dayshift 11-5 Wed-Sun and take Mon & Tue off.
Long story. I went back a week later and there she was. She immediately started with the long-lost-boyfriend treatment. Hugging, sitting in my lap, kissing and rubbing my crouch. I has hot and ready to go immediately.
She quoted the Raiders standard .2 per dance and. 2 VIP entry fee. I was all in.
Once in the VIP she did not waste any time and before the first song was over the cover was on the FS was in progress. One additional song and BAM, it was all over.
Yes, that was a two song wonder!
This is where it gets scary.
She immediately told me that I owed her $$$.4 WTF! Yes, $$$ for FS and .4 for the two songs (plus another. 2 for the VIP entrance fee).
Needless to say I wasn't about to pay her crazy rates. An as you might imaging she was pissed and started making a scene in the VIP. We were the only two in there, but still.
I finally agreed to pay her $.8 plus. 2 for the VIP entrance fee.
Again, I don't remember her name (short white gal, brown shoulder length hair, glasses, VERY friendly) and don't imagine that I'll be seeing her again any time soon to ask.
On a side note: I am sure that this wasn't the first time that she has demanded this type of money for a quickie in the VIP. Which mean that some guys are paying those crazy rates.
Good luck, and what out for this one.
My money is going to stay in Venoms from now own.
CL
[QUOTE=Chica Luv; 1780887]After reading several reviews about RR I decided to pay the place a visit. I stopped by one afternoon to try and get a feel for the girls / action. So I spent several hours talking to different girls and seeing which girls were getting the most VIP room action.
One gals seemed to be getting MOST of the action in the VIP. I can not for the life of me remember her name. Maybe someone can help the boy. She was short with shoulder length brown hair. Probably in her late 20's to early 30's and she wore dark rimmed glasses. VERY friendly. Lots of hugging, touching, and kissing while sitting in your lap out on the main floor.
Unfortunately she was busy in the VIP for hours with several different guys, and by the time she was free it was getting late I had to head out. Although I didn't remember her name, she told me that she only works the dayshift 11-5 Wed-Sun and take Mon & Tue off.
Long story. I went back a week later and there she was. She immediately started with the long-lost-boyfriend treatment. Hugging, sitting in my lap, kissing and rubbing my crouch. I has hot and ready to go immediately.
She quoted the Raiders standard. 2 per dance and. 2 VIP entry fee. I was all in.
Once in the VIP she did not waste any time and before the first song was over the cover was on the FS was in progress. One additional song and BAM, it was all over.
Yes, that was a two song wonder!
This is where it gets scary.
She immediately told me that I owed her $$$.4 WTF! Yes, $$$ for FS and. 4 for the two songs (plus another. 2 for the VIP entrance fee).
Needless to say I wasn't about to pay her crazy rates. An as you might imaging she was pissed and started making a scene in the VIP. We were the only two in there, but still.
I finally agreed to pay her $.8 plus. 2 for the VIP entrance fee.
Again, I don't remember her name (short white gal, brown shoulder length hair, glasses, VERY friendly) and don't imagine that I'll be seeing her again any time soon to ask.
On a side note: I am sure that this wasn't the first time that she has demanded this type of money for a quickie in the VIP. Which mean that some guys are paying those crazy rates.
Good luck, and what out for this one.
My money is going to stay in Venoms from now own.
CL[/QUOTE]Can you pm my some of the best talent at Venom? I want to make that my spot. Also daytime talent.
[QUOTE=TaterTot75;1781185]Can you pm my some of the best talent at Venom? I want to make that my spot. Also daytime talent.[/QUOTE]Dude all you have to do is wave a little cash at venom and you will getting what you want. The talent pool is pretty much limitless there
Anyone got the DL on hot blonde dancers who work on the side?
[QUOTE=JSixFive;1781493]Anyone got the DL on hot blonde dancers who work on the side?[/QUOTE]Talk to Christy at the TDE club!
[QUOTE=Chica Luv;1780887]. She quoted the Raiders standard .2 per dance and. 2 VIP entry fee. I was all in .[/QUOTE]When did Raiders start charging for entry to VIP? I haven't been there in a while, but free entry to VIP and champagne room was the reason I preferred that club.
14 new dancers tonight. None of them VIP-worthy. JMHO.
My friend went yesterday for Lunch. There were two new sets of talent. First two girls came from Curves. They left within the hour. Second set came in a bit after the lunch hour. One had short hair nice tanned body with little teeth. They chatted a bit before going in. She promised alot, but didn't follow threw. He cut his loss after the 1st dance and gave her a tip for 1 dance. She said NO we had two. She began to cry wolf to the manager. He had only counted 1. She switched to a bunch of lies claiming that she had stopped dancing because it became too much for her. So she lied to get more money. Be careful with new ladies. They may not be up for the new standard of dances. Sorry no name given, but discription of her is prety right on. She's pretty tall too. He left and may never go back. Be safe. Play safe.
Amy, from the old Candy Store days, is back to work. Today is her second day at Venom. She just had her sixth child and her boobs are huge-actually she's a bit thicker all over.
[QUOTE=Stripper Luv;1783871]Amy, from the old Candy Store days, is back to work. Today is her second day at Venom. She just had her sixth child and her boobs are huge-actually she's a bit thicker all over.[/QUOTE]I am going back to tucson next week. Can get more details, age, hair color
[QUOTE=LeaveHappy;1781977]When did Raiders start charging for entry to VIP? I haven't been there in a while, but free entry to VIP and champagne room was the reason I preferred that club.[/QUOTE]It is posted on the window "No Admittance Fee."
[QUOTE=DrDesire;1785913]It is posted on the window "No Admittance Fee."[/QUOTE]I'm happy to report that there is a no VIP cover now too at Curves. Got to love it. Be safe play safe.
Perhaps the dancers are using this "cover charge" to tip the bouncers to look the other way.
[QUOTE=DrDesire;1785913]It is posted on the window "No Admittance Fee."[/QUOTE]
Well it cost $23 for 1 song. So 5x$23 = $115. Round up to $120.
Old fee is $20 stamp + 5 x $20 = $120. Its not much a difference to me. They just want more patrons to get their dance there, mean more money to the club.
Anyway 90% of the time, the champagne room is empty at Curve. Specially in summer time, strip club is always slow.
More likely that I was just a dumbass and didn't read the sign that said No Cover Charge.
[QUOTE=Kadran;1786733]Perhaps the dancers are using this "cover charge" to tip the bouncers to look the other way.[/QUOTE]
An impromptu reunion at Venom today of former Candy Store alumni-dancers and customers.
Had the pleasure initiating a new dancer in the cabanas. She had just started there 30 minutes before I got her. I'll be back for more of that one.
[QUOTE=Stripper Luv; 1789171]An impromptu reunion at Venom today of former Candy Store alumni-dancers and customers.
Had the pleasure initiating a new dancer in the cabanas. She had just started there 30 minutes before I got her. I'll be back for more of that one.[/QUOTE]Which former dancers were in attendance?
Went on Friday at 3 pm. Thete were 7 dancers working. 2 sisters. 3 Hispanic. 2 white.
Lexi, Hispanic. 8s on the look, dd cup, few tats. Look fantastic on the stage. I haven't seen her work on the floor at all. She only up the stage whens her turn.
Merenda, white. 7s, bolt-On, blond. I had 4 songs with her on the floor. Dance was ok, but not hi mileage. She would do me afew handshake to get you interesting. She keep pushing me to buy her the $50 song in VIP which she claimed a lot more fun. Had anyone dance with her in the. VIP area behind the curtain and any extra from this lady? She seem like promising but probably just another upsale.
The floor dance is $7, but some girls still charge 10, so be sure to ask.
Went to curve on Friday midnight. Club was full with co-ed half naked. 8s to 9s range. Only saw 2 guys went in the champagne room when I was there. You know girls was hungry for money when I was asked 6 times "if I wana dance" before I got my drink.
No extra available at curve but you sure can get some co-ed oversized bobbies banging at you face for $10.
I got eyes on Irena tonight. Gorgeous face, bolt-on, tall, firm asses. We went straight to VIP for 5 songs. The whole time I was slapping asses and sucking her erect nipples. She even let me rubbing her pussy over the thong. Only negative about her was she begin sweating a lot after the third songs which is a turn off for me. She never push for champagne room, and I don't see there will be any difference from here.
Has anyone checked out the live show at the sex shop across the street from curves? I have to say I have been a little disappointed by the action in adult theater / arcades here.
That's disappointing to hear. I'm back in town for a couple of days and was about to swing by there and check out the VIP. Will probably still drop by to see if that's still the case. I'll provide an update tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Stripper Luv;1783184]14 new dancers tonight. None of them VIP-worthy. JMHO.[/QUOTE]
I'm here now and am bored as hell. Granted I've only been here twice, but I recognize a dancer shakeup when I see one. Looks like they're trying to go with more Latina and white dancers, plus they added a food menu. Guess they'll see if this new tactic makes them more money.
Doubtful.
[QUOTE=Flintmonger;1792557]That's disappointing to hear. I'm back in town for a couple of days and was about to swing by there and check out the VIP. Will probably still drop by to see if that's still the case. I'll provide an update tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
Turbulence was sold last week.
[QUOTE=CuteAndCoo;1793662]Turbulence was sold last week.[/QUOTE]Sold to the people who own Christie's in Phoenix. The club is closed for remodeling.