Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Fillipino;4872083]What is up with this person? "She" flakes on me twice and calls me a fucking dick when I call her a fucking flake, then a week later she favorites my profile?! I ask her "what's up?" then she proceeds to say "hey you. Text me xxx-xxx-xxxx".

Totally seems like a pimp or multiple people on a single profile. I know some others have had interactions with her here. Please advise.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/2df0993f-e759-4e11-97b0-e4ca69838667[/URL][/QUOTE]I had the same kind of interaction with her a few months ago. Seemed real, normal type conversation. Then she went silent. Maybe a week goes by and she will send a pic and ask and act like we never even talked before. I think she is a bot or something. I could never get anything set up with her so I blocked her and moved on.

[QUOTE=BedRock01;4871045]Want minimum of $775 per meet and $6500 for allowance. With that amount I can get a hot girl in her early 20's.

Snowhitebeautyxo.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a0c80ce0-d53c-4f8d-8b84-c05f999936e5[/URL][/QUOTE]Hell for that, I might have to consider changing jobsWonder if any actually get that.

[QUOTE=BedRock01;4871045]Want minimum of $775 per meet and $6500 for allowance. With that amount I can get a hot girl in her early 20's.
...[/QUOTE]I had one on the line a few years back who was asking for about $4500 per month for allowance. I actually agreed if she would meet my expectations:

(1) I had a spare room in my home, she would immediately move in.

(2) She would cook, clean, and do my laundry. As well as any other chores assigned to her.

(3) She would make herself available 24/7 to pleasure me in any way I desired.

(4) In public she would address me as "Sir" or "Mr. Ramius", in private she would address me as "Master".

(5) All of her clothing was to be confiscated and destroyed. Any new clothing and the right to wear it had to be earned by fulfilling her duties exceptionally.

(6) If she or I wished to terminate the arrangement, she would still be required to assist me in recruiting and training a suitable replacement.

I never heard from *her* again.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4861703][URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/ee303209-ffce-4b80-b04b-6e01e806735b[/URL]

She's changed names back and forth and added and subtracted photos in since she first contacted me. I'm currently texting an obvious bot on my phone.

Her: $500 ppm.

Me: Can you host?

Her: Yep. I'm available Thursday at 8. I have a nice hotel.

Me: Next week.

Her: Yep.

Me: Sorry, I'm way too busy to even thing about planning that far ahead. If you want to meet me, feel free to text me when you're available and maybe we can work something out.

Her: Perfect! Let me know, Thursday, Friday or Saturday.[/QUOTE]This is weird. So the account you were texting is definitely fake. However the girl in the photos is very real and very much willing to go lower than 500. I met up with her recently. Check out biobabe1999. Thought about keeping this a secret but she's only here another few weeks. Seriously bring your a game though. She's no joke. The guy she fucked a couple hours after me left her too hungry, asked me to come back and finish the job. For free.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;4872767]I had one on the line a few years back who was asking for about $4500 per month for allowance. I actually agreed if she would meet my expectations:

(1) I had a spare room in my home, she would immediately move in.

(2) She would cook, clean, and do my laundry. As well as any other chores assigned to her.

(3) She would make herself available 24/7 to pleasure me in any way I desired.

(4) In public she would address me as "Sir" or "Mr. Ramius", in private she would address me as "Master".

(5) All of her clothing was to be confiscated and destroyed. Any new clothing and the right to wear it had to be earned by fulfilling her duties exceptionally.

(6) If she or I wished to terminate the arrangement, she would still be required to assist me in recruiting and training a suitable replacement.

I never heard from *her* again.[/QUOTE]That's awesome LOL.

[QUOTE=DirkMcGurk69;4872792]This is weird. So the account you were texting is definitely fake. However the girl in the photos is very real and very much willing to go lower than 500. I met up with her recently. Check out biobabe1999. Thought about keeping this a secret but she's only here another few weeks. Seriously bring your a game though. She's no joke. The guy she fucked a couple hours after me left her too hungry, asked me to come back and finish the job. For free.[/QUOTE]That's seriously her fourth or fifth name change. Same person.

[QUOTE=DirkMcGurk69;4872792]This is weird. So the account you were texting is definitely fake. However the girl in the photos is very real and very much willing to go lower than 500. I met up with her recently. Check out biobabe1999. Thought about keeping this a secret but she's only here another few weeks. Seriously bring your a game though. She's no joke. The guy she fucked a couple hours after me left her too hungry, asked me to come back and finish the job. For free.[/QUOTE]She contacted me like a week ago and quoted me 500 and I just passed without negotiating as she felt too business like. After seeing this I went back to the message thread I had with her offered 300 and she passed.

SAmazing you must be getting tons of PM's because your inbox is full.

Got biobabe1990 coming through today. 4 $$ which is pricey, but we'll be shooting video as well with her in a blindfold on a sybian and other activities as well. She mentioned no spitting, no hitting and no anal. Is this in line with others experience? Maybe someone could provide some insight into her boundaries. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Fillipino;4873784]SAmazing you must be getting tons of PM's because your inbox is full.

Got biobabe1990 coming through today. 4 $$ which is pricey, but we'll be shooting video as well with her in a blindfold on a sybian and other activities as well. She mentioned no spitting, no hitting and no anal. Is this in line with others experience? Maybe someone could provide some insight into her boundaries. Thanks.[/QUOTE]All sounds about right. She's definitely camera friendly. She requested I take pics to put up on my fetlife profile. Lets see that footage later and have fun!

4 $$ = 800 ?

[QUOTE=Fillipino;4873784]SAmazing you must be getting tons of PM's because your inbox is full.

Got biobabe1990 coming through today. 4 $$ which is pricey, but we'll be shooting video as well with her in a blindfold on a sybian and other activities as well. She mentioned no spitting, no hitting and no anal. Is this in line with others experience? Maybe someone could provide some insight into her boundaries. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fillipino;4873784]SAmazing you must be getting tons of PM's because your inbox is full.

Got biobabe1990 coming through today. 4 $$ which is pricey, but we'll be shooting video as well with her in a blindfold on a sybian and other activities as well. She mentioned no spitting, no hitting and no anal. Is this in line with others experience? Maybe someone could provide some insight into her boundaries. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Yall need to learn how to message. I keep getting 5 blank messages in a row followed by a request for Intel with nothing in return. If you don't have anything to share, ask the board, not me.

[QUOTE=Fillipino;4873784]SAmazing you must be getting tons of PM's because your inbox is full.

Got biobabe1990 coming through today. 4 $$ which is pricey, but we'll be shooting video as well with her in a blindfold on a sybian and other activities as well. She mentioned no spitting, no hitting and no anal. Is this in line with others experience? Maybe someone could provide some insight into her boundaries. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Also, I set her up with another monger recently, he pushed her too hard, and she blocked me. Since I've been getting a lot of requests without Intel reciprocated and then this happens, I'm going to stop sharing for a while. Second time this week the board has fucked up a good thing for me. Not happy getting black-balled with some dumb antics, and I'm not interested in losing one that's actually worthwhile LOL. Good luck, mongers.

[QUOTE=MyNickname;4873936]4 $$ = 800 ?[/QUOTE]400 if she was willing to do video. But she backed out.

[QUOTE=BedRock01;4871045]Want minimum of $775 per meet and $6500 for allowance. With that amount I can get a hot girl in her early 20's.

Snowhitebeautyxo.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a0c80ce0-d53c-4f8d-8b84-c05f999936e5[/URL][/QUOTE]She's on TNA. Can't remember her name.

[QUOTE=SAmazing;4873981]Also, I set her up with another monger recently, he pushed her too hard, and she blocked me. Since I've been getting a lot of requests without Intel reciprocated and then this happens, I'm going to stop sharing for a while. Second time this week the board has fucked up a good thing for me. Not happy getting black-balled with some dumb antics, and I'm not interested in losing one that's actually worthwhile LOL. Good luck, mongers.[/QUOTE]That happens all of the time and it's why I don't give out any info about who I meet until I'm totally done with them. I don't understand why some guys simply have to be dicks.

[QUOTE=DelToro;4873318]She contacted me like a week ago and quoted me 500 and I just passed without negotiating as she felt too business like. After seeing this I went back to the message thread I had with her offered 300 and she passed.[/QUOTE]Well at the end she contacted me again and was ok with 300 but now she requires condoms, it seems she got spooked a bit. I passed, my regulars are not as hot but are crazy naughty and much cheaper.

She is a waste of time and I'm not sure I was dealing with same person.

We agreed on 300 and scheduled the visit. On the morning of the day of the visit she asked for a selfie which she already had seen in SA private profile. I told her to see it again at SA. She did and we were confirmed.

30 minutes before visit she asks me to send her a selfie with me having the 300 at hand. I refused and told her she sounded like a cop trying to do a trap twisting an arrangement into something else. She asked for at least sending her a selfie which I did.

Next thing I know she is asking for 500 for the meet with a language as if we never had talked and never had agreed to an arrangement of 300 before. Told her no and that I didn't appreciate her breaking an agreement and try to change terms few minutes before the meet.

[QUOTE=DelToro;4874209]Well at the end she contacted me again and was ok with 300 but now she requires condoms, it seems she got spooked a bit. I passed, my regulars are not as hot but are crazy naughty and much cheaper.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SAmazing;4873981]Also, I set her up with another monger recently, he pushed her too hard, and she blocked me. Since I've been getting a lot of requests without Intel reciprocated and then this happens, I'm going to stop sharing for a while. Second time this week the board has fucked up a good thing for me. Not happy getting black-balled with some dumb antics, and I'm not interested in losing one that's actually worthwhile LOL. Good luck, mongers.[/QUOTE]You and someone else I did actual trade with's and I offered the best I had. People ask when I post, "hey what's that girls number", "or you want to trade" and give zero in return. If you don't got any info then your game is probably mega poor and you might as well go back to TNA, that shit pisses me off. Way to many useless guys around here. Change my mind.

[QUOTE=HBadger;4874519]You and someone else I did actual trade with's and I offered the best I had. People ask when I post, "hey what's that girls number", "or you want to trade" and give zero in return. If you don't got any info then your game is probably mega poor and you might as well go back to TNA, that shit pisses me off. Way to many useless guys around here. Change my mind.[/QUOTE]I made a post a while back about a young attractive Asian girl off SA that I met. All these dudes started snitching to her basically about it all.

[QUOTE=MyNickname;4874434]She is a waste of time and I'm not sure I was dealing with same person.

We agreed on 300 and scheduled the visit. On the morning of the day of the visit she asked for a selfie which she already had seen in SA private profile. I told her to see it again at SA. She did and we were confirmed.

30 minutes before visit she asks me to send her a selfie with me having the 300 at hand. I refused and told her she sounded like a cop trying to do a trap twisting an arrangement into something else. She asked for at least sending her a selfie which I did.

Next thing I know she is asking for 500 for the meet with a language as if we never had talked and never had agreed to an arrangement of 300 before. Told her no and that I didn't appreciate her breaking an agreement and try to change terms few minutes before the meet.[/QUOTE]I should clarify that we did end up meeting and she is the girl in the pics, just no video.

[QUOTE=MyNickname;4874434]She is a waste of time and I'm not sure I was dealing with same person.

We agreed on 300 and scheduled the visit. On the morning of the day of the visit she asked for a selfie which she already had seen in SA private profile. I told her to see it again at SA. She did and we were confirmed.

30 minutes before visit she asks me to send her a selfie with me having the 300 at hand. I refused and told her she sounded like a cop trying to do a trap twisting an arrangement into something else. She asked for at least sending her a selfie which I did.

Next thing I know she is asking for 500 for the meet with a language as if we never had talked and never had agreed to an arrangement of 300 before. Told her no and that I didn't appreciate her breaking an agreement and try to change terms few minutes before the meet.[/QUOTE]I reached out. We reconciled. But now she's 500 w / condom. But I think the event left her intolerant to any dick head posts, which I agree with. She's upset from people hitting her up with shitty messages and being derogatory, probably from this board.

She's really beautiful and worth it for those who like a good time.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/70a9eabc-9ab7-4f41-bbd7-a8991a276917[/URL]

Pics are Antje Utgaard.

[URL]https://twitter.com/AwesomeANTJAY[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/antjeutgaard/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SAmazing;4875215]I reached out. We reconciled. But now she's 500 w / condom. But I think the event left her intolerant to any dick head posts, which I agree with. She's upset from people hitting her up with shitty messages and being derogatory, probably from this board.

She's really beautiful and worth it for those who like a good time.[/QUOTE]You know, I don't know what to say here. I travel a lot for work and as such, I use SA a lot for those cities and love it. However, there have been plenty of times when I've shared information on a girl on boards for other cities and the girl disappears shortly after. It makes me wonder if the same thing is happening there where guys read stuff and then start being unbelievably crude. I have no desire to white knight, but I don't get a kick out of treating people like shit either. I don't know, maybe we all shouldn't be sharing this type of information?

[QUOTE=Fillipino;4875210]I should clarify that we did end up meeting and she is the girl in the pics, just no video.[/QUOTE]So, how much was the donation, and for how long? Also, what services did she provide?

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;4875256]You know, I don't know what to say here. I travel a lot for work and as such, I use SA a lot for those cities and love it. However, there have been plenty of times when I've shared information on a girl on boards for other cities and the girl disappears shortly after. It makes me wonder if the same thing is happening there where guys read stuff and then start being unbelievably crude. I have no desire to white knight, but I don't get a kick out of treating people like shit either. I don't know, maybe we all shouldn't be sharing this type of information?[/QUOTE]If you think YMMV is a factor in TNA, in SA its all

True new SBs are insecure and inexperienced,. What you could get from them depends a lot on your approach, being social, funny, respectful and not pushy. I never talk about BB services (and 90% that's what I get) nor money unless they bring it, and when that happens that's an indication that they are not that inexperienced.

It usually takes some work to get them to meet you.

When intel is shared with amounts and experiences enjoyed it should be understood that its just a reference that you should never expect the same. Still approach them as if you know nothing about them, and for the love of god never mentioned you heard they would fuck for X and do Y.

Yeah I think the only way to share intel without fucking up the system for all, is just to share intel with guys that understand how to play in SA, meaning guys that have been successful on SA and have a list of leads to prove it.

She messaged me this morning trying to convince me that she is not a cop and that she is real. I told her I had no doubt she existed but the problem was her changing the terms of agreement right before the meeting. Long story short she ended up telling me her daddy was going to reach out to me. I told her I didn't want anything to do with a managed woman. That I had no interest to talk with her manager / pimp.

I'm only stating facts, it's up to you guys what you want to deal with.

The fact she has a pimp explains the change to 500 and no more bareback.

[QUOTE=SAmazing;4875215]I reached out. We reconciled. But now she's 500 w / condom. But I think the event left her intolerant to any dick head posts, which I agree with. She's upset from people hitting her up with shitty messages and being derogatory, probably from this board.

She's really beautiful and worth it for those who like a good time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DelToro;4875321]If you think YMMV is a factor in TNA, in SA its all

True new SBs are insecure and inexperienced,. What you could get from them depends a lot on your approach, being social, funny, respectful and not pushy. I never talk about BB services (and 90% that's what I get) nor money unless they bring it, and when that happens that's an indication that they are not that inexperienced.

It usually takes some work to get them to meet you.

When intel is shared with amounts and experiences enjoyed it should be understood that its just a reference that you should never expect the same. Still approach them as if you know nothing about them, and for the love of god never mentioned you heard they would fuck for X and do Y.

Yeah I think the only way to share intel without fucking up the system for all, is just to share intel with guys that understand how to play in SA, meaning guys that have been successful on SA and have a list of leads to prove it.[/QUOTE]Everything you said above seems like it should be completely obvious to me, but from the story of Biobaby, it sounds like it's not to a lot of people on here.

[QUOTE=MyNickname;4875561]She messaged me this morning trying to convince me that she is not a cop and that she is real. I told her I had no doubt she existed but the problem was her changing the terms of agreement right before the meeting. Long story short she ended up telling me her daddy was going to reach out to me. I told her I didn't want anything to do with a managed woman. That I had no interest to talk with her manager / pimp.

I'm only stating facts, it's up to you guys what you want to deal with.

The fact she has a pimp explains the change to 500 and no more bareback.[/QUOTE]Now that makes sense. I was probably texting the pimp.

She is texting me talking about my posts here. It seems her daddy is here.
I contacted her before she was mentioned here, she had a different profile name and I never said anything about this board so that is the reason I'm saying her daddy is here.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4875650]Now that makes sense. I was probably texting the pimp.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;4875662]She is texting me talking about my posts here. It seems her daddy is here.
I contacted her before she was mentioned here, she had a different profile name and I never said anything about this board so that is the reason I'm saying her daddy is here.[/QUOTE]To me it sounds that she came here independent and hooked up with a daddy from here that is kind of managing her now.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;4875608]Everything you said above seems like it should be completely obvious to me, but from the story of Biobaby, it sounds like it's not to a lot of people on here.[/QUOTE]The biobaby story seems a bit out of the ordinary.

[QUOTE=MyNickname;4875662]She is texting me talking about my posts here. It seems her daddy is here.
I contacted her before she was mentioned here, she had a different profile name and I never said anything about this board so that is the reason I'm saying her daddy is here.[/QUOTE]More than likely, someone on here with zero game told her about this site and now she's reading it. I've had that happen to a couple ladies that I used to see. Someone contacts them and says something stupid like, "oh, this guy said you did BB, CIA, and ATM. Why won't you do that with me?" Eventually, they get pointed to this site, which irritates the fuck out of me. Over the years, I used to think everyone here was like me. A pretty normal guy that liked to get some on the side and didn't mind spending a few bucks doing it. I've now learned that quite a few people here (and probably the vast majority on TNA) simply have no game and have no clue about treating an escort or wannabe escort like anything but a piece of meat that they are buying. I still love you all, but sometimes we have to be a little smarter.

Just saw this post on Craigslist for a 23 year old Chinese girl (who is a professional data scientist) who will clean your house fully nude for $130/ hour.

In the ad it says, "Touching my body is never acceptable without my explicit permission," which to me says that it's a definite possibility (otherwise "without my explicit permission" wouldn't be there).

Has anyone here tried her? Anything to report? Please let me know if this is the wrong thread for this.

Link to ad: [URL]https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/hss/d/sammamish-cutie-underwear-and-nude-maid/7148364980.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=MyNickname;4875662]She is texting me talking about my posts here. It seems her daddy is here.
I contacted her before she was mentioned here, she had a different profile name and I never said anything about this board so that is the reason I'm saying her daddy is here.[/QUOTE]WTF. The first rule of usasexguide is you don't talk about usasexguide.

I've been reading this section for awhile and I've yet to jump on the SB till I get my $ up.

Random question: Has any of you guys been burned by sb as in trying to extort you when you call it quits with them.

Ex: False accusations, outing you, pregnancy scares, knowing where you work and live (getting too comfy). Women are just crazy these days, how to weed them out?

FYI: Telling women about this site is not coo, this is where men cum for info, not TNA.

This will not get you pussy points with women.

That's why its YMMV.

I have spoken!

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Efurufe;4876822]Just saw this post on Craigslist for a 23 year old Chinese girl (who is a professional data scientist) who will clean your house fully nude for $130/ hour.

In the ad it says, "Touching my body is never acceptable without my explicit permission," which to me says that it's a definite possibility (otherwise "without my explicit permission" wouldn't be there).

Has anyone here tried her? Anything to report? Please let me know if this is the wrong thread for this.

Link to ad: [URL]https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/hss/d/sammamish-cutie-underwear-and-nude-maid/7148364980.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]That link now says the posting has been deleted by the author.

[QUOTE=MartyByrde;4877530]That link now says the posting has been deleted by the author.[/QUOTE]I'm an idiot. Should have grabbed the contact info. Ugh, rookie mistake.

Want a $1 k per meet for couples of hours.

Alexisbabyxo910.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/03aa8301-80cc-4bb9-a107-918a8c528e68[/URL]

Scammer.

Want to send $50 first then $1 k per meet.

Plafullittledancer.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a7084cf5-6336-48cd-81b9-ecaeb15e8287[/URL]

[QUOTE=BedRock01;4878063]

Want to send $50 first then $1 k per meet.

Plafullittledancer.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a7084cf5-6336-48cd-81b9-ecaeb15e8287[/URL][/QUOTE]Just got the same long winded message. Not only 50 prepayment and 1000 ppm, but she wants to meet in public to be paid in advance before she will she will then go with you to meet in private.

I've got one I wasn't sure I wanted to give up, but I think I'm moving on.

She's a white mid 20's, a bikini barista with a great body. I've met up with her a few times, she said she could sometimes host but she never was able when we tried to meet. She loves giving BBBJ with lots of DT, face fucking, eye contact, spit, and will let you finish on her face, tits, or in her mouth. BBFSCIP was totally open for me, but as usual YMMV. 350 and we'd usually spend 3-4 hours together. She doesn't do greek, but was basically excited and down for anything else.

There are two potential small issues. She is super tight and orgasms very easily. This means she can't take a pounding for a very long time. Also, I'm only slightly bigger than average and she had a little bit of trouble taking me so if you are bigger she might not be that into it. The other one is that she was in a car accident a few months ago. As a result she has a leg injury that makes it difficult to for her to be on top for very long, and also her bottom row of teeth is a little bit fucked up towards the back of her mouth. Noticeable, but not terrible. She said she is getting dental work done to fix it soon.

I'm willing to trade for intel on an SB who is good looking, 28 or under, not a pro, not expensive, and willing to do bbgreek. Only PM me if you are a senior member.