Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=D Nut; 1797723]I have been hearing about Phat's reviews for a long time now. Some love the details. And some hate the long wind. We're all grown ups here. If you don't like to read it, I suggest you learn the meaning of the word,"skim". Skimming is a skill we should have learned in grade school. Take what you need, and leave.

Skim, then move on with your life.[/QUOTE]I would suggest. If you reply to a PhatDATY ad, please manually delete everything after about 10 lines so the quoted replies do ot hog the entire page (s). The 1st 10 lines or so should give everyone a good reference.

May I ask in both the massage for a licensed girl, a body rub from non licensed and in escort girls what is the price you would consider a fair market price?

It seems there are much different views in this category because I have some clients who say if I'd charge more than I'd be more avail, but then others say if I charge more that more is expected?

So as for " more is expected" what's more and what's the fair price on that? Keeping in mind that saying FREE is the obvious but there is over head for towels, oil, lotion, decor, equipment and just our blood, sweat and tears. I'm asking also for a price on GOOD work done not shabby or cheap 15min sessions. For ladies who know our work is our name.

[QUOTE=CurvyCrissy;1797857]May I ask in both the massage for a licensed girl, a body rub from non licensed and in escort girls what is the price you would consider a fair market price?[/QUOTE]Rub and a tug in Buenos Aires runs about 25 bucks. Add 12 bucks for a BBBJCIM or COF and another 12 for FS. Though I imagine the travel charges would be prohibitive for any of you ladies up there.

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[QUOTE=Admin2;1797866]Rub and a tug in Buenos Aires runs about 25 bucks. Add 12 bucks for a BBBJCIM or COF and another 12 for FS. Though I imagine the travel charges would be prohibitive for any of you ladies up there. A2[/QUOTE]I'm spoiled. I just returned from Buenos Aires and had a nice 2 naked Ladies. 4-hand, Body to body oil massage with lots of lesbian action, DATY and of course a final course (HE) for about $62 USD. Looks like I might have overpaid by a bit! Going to be hard to go back to US prices.

[QUOTE=Admin2;1797602]But this was the scene in the living room this morning, somebody had a good time. Got to call the hazmat team to get the stage cleaned.[/QUOTE]That looks like someone had a great time, do you give out goody bags t the ladies when they leave or at least leave some by the door to grab on their way out?

[QUOTE=MyOwnIllness; 1798020]I may of been told bad info from the rub and tug on my way out of there.

No I'd never lie I have no reason to involve anyone without merit Christina.

I know what happen to me is 100% TRUE!

The other ads was told to me as being affiliated with the girl who was directly in it, Leah. Apparently the boyfriend is the black guy not the white guy so far as I know maybe the info given to me about other girls was to throw me off their own involvement? Right now everyone is suspect.

The girl who told me about " Karma" was from "Elmwood " Christina, Maybe that will bring someone to mind? The way she made it out to me was the girl in the "Karma ad" wasn't even a real person that it's a totally fucking stolen web pic!

I've never seen the girl in the "Karma" ads, I apologize if I involved her by mistake.

I was told by another girl about Karma ads, and a member PMd me about the princess girl saying her and Leah are 100% robbing guys and they apparently steal from stores a lot to.

The girl I met is the actual pic in the Leah ad! That's The * set me up![/QUOTE]I'm getting a lot of texts and PMs asking if I can assure this girl "KARMA" is a REAL GIRL and not robbing people and not working with "LEAH" the one who was confirmed to be robbing more than a few Members.

This is ALL I KNOW. I know that "karma " girl in the pics on the ad on BP is a REAL PERSON not a stolen pic. I know she is from here in Cinti. I also Know she was from what I knew a college educated well spoken girl, I DON'T KNOW if she went an got an education in MASSAGE making her a LEGAL provider.

I DO NOT KNOW the "Leah " girl in the ad on BP. If this "LEAH and Karma" know EACH OTHER? That I DON'T KNOW? I can only say I know that Karma is not a web stolen pic and and she wasn't like that when I met her but I'd never discredit what "myownillnes " says if he believes he says she is in on it because he has never said stuff like that about other girls and we've had more than a few sessions and I've given more than a few referrals on him to known providers here with great reviews. If he says it's legit, I believe him!

How do the rates down there correlate with the cost of living?

One appt covers the cost of my hotel room, dinner, and gas.

5 appts cover rent and utilities for my two residences each month.

So, would my rent on a decent place to live be only $200 / month?

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1798283]How do the rates down there correlate with the cost of living?

One appt covers the cost of my hotel room, dinner, and gas.

5 appts cover rent and utilities for my two residences each month.

So, would my rent on a decent place to live be only $200 / month?[/QUOTE]No honey, U$S200 a month wouldn't get you a decent place in Cap Fed (downtown BsAs) more like U$S400-700.

It breaks down like this, (moving to pesos, current rate about 7. 8 pesos for one dollar) A rub and a tug is the lower end. Privados (bordellos) run about 450 P for FS and the clock is always running. One hour means 50 minutes. Independent providers run from 350 and hour to as high as 1000 an hour (there are 2-3 earning at this level). Most of the premium girls charge 6-800 a session, which is usually an unrushed 1. 5 hour. The higher priced ones are simply better providers, they stay in better shape, their services are AWESOME, they have nice apartments they work out of. They are also notoriously hard to get appointments with. Because their landlords know what they are doing there they pay more in rent, usually around 700 bucks a month. Most of the girls live outside the city in provincia and ride a train for about an hour to get to work so their cost of living is lower.

[QUOTE=Glockman;1793235]I do see your point. Several years ago, I was seeing a lady for the third time when I noticed she was having trouble doing my BBBJ. She then said her teeth were bothering and would I mind if she took them out. I was a little surprised, but what was I going to say halfway through the BJ. She then took all of her uppers and lowers out and laid them on the stand next to the bed. I didn't nut that day.[/QUOTE]I know this is a few days old. And I don't really want to bring up old news, BUT! You didn't nut? Somehow it sounds like it would be BETTER without the teeth? NOT from a visual perspective, simply from a performance standpoint. I'm just sayin';)

Pardon me for just visiting! But this Octagon thing makes for some really good / entertaining reading.

Peace.

PK

[QUOTE=Loki Pk;1798387]I know this is a few days old. And I don't really want to bring up old news, BUT! You didn't nut? Somehow it sounds like it would be BETTER without the teeth? NOT from a visual perspective, simply from a performance standpoint. I'm just sayin';) PK[/QUOTE]I am a very visual guy. It was just sort of a surprise and seeing her pull out her uppers and lowers and setting them on the nightstand just took its toll on this old guy concentration. I have a hard enough time nutting under ideal conditions. LOL

[QUOTE=Glockman;1798397]I am a very visual guy. It was just sort of a surprise and seeing her pull out her uppers and lowers and setting them on the nightstand just took its toll on this old guy concentration. I have a hard enough time nutting under ideal conditions. LOL[/QUOTE]Reminds me of a story, happened to a buddy of mine. (really, it wasn't me). He had picked up a gal and she was going to give him the best BJ of his life. She removed her teeth and apparently laid them on the floor of his car. She went to town and deliver as promised, an outstanding BJ. He dropped her off and all was well. Until his irl gf found the teeth on the floor of his car."WTF is this?", she shreaked. The poor gal had forgotten her teeth and he had no idea they were there. Whatever his lame explanation was I don't think really worked to good, it wasn't long after that and the irl gf split. We still laugh about those teeth on the floor of his car to this day. What a hoot. They must have been there for several weeks before they were discovered. LMAO.

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1798324]No honey, U$S200 a month wouldn't get you a decent place in Cap Fed (downtown BsAs) more like U$S400-700.

It breaks down like this, (moving to pesos, current rate about 7. 8 pesos for one dollar) A rub and a tug is the lower end. Privados (bordellos) run about 450 P for FS and the clock is always running. One hour means 50 minutes. Independent providers run from 350 and hour to as high as 1000 an hour (there are 2-3 earning at this level). Most of the premium girls charge 6-800 a session, which is usually an unrushed 1. 5 hour. The higher priced ones are simply better providers, they stay in better shape, their services are AWESOME, they have nice apartments they work out of. They are also notoriously hard to get appointments with. Because their landlords know what they are doing there they pay more in rent, usually around 700 bucks a month. Most of the girls live outside the city in provincia and ride a train for about an hour to get to work so their cost of living is lower.[/QUOTE]Okay, so the gist of the situation is, that I can command a higher rate there (350. 600, vs 200) , and I can have a decent place to live for less than I'm paying now? And not have to worry about nosey neighbors?

Hmmm. Where is the nearest place to snowboard? Thinking of my next 'summer place' ha ha.

You missed a sentence.

[QUOTE=Admin2;1798324]It breaks down like this, (moving to pesos, current rate about 7. 8 pesos for one dollar)[/QUOTE]The prices I posted about the girls were expressed in Pesos not dollars. If you're commanding U$S 200 in the States that would be 1600 pesos here, there are no 1600 pesos providers. The picture I'm adding is a 700 peso girl that is TOTALLY PSE, BBBJ wherever you want to come, you can knock on the back door with the kind of vigor that most providers couldn't tolerate on the front door. I know we all say "She was really into it", but this one really does seem to be really in to it.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1798850]Okay, so the gist of the situation is, that I can command a higher rate there (350. 600, vs 200) , and I can have a decent place to live for less than I'm paying now? And not have to worry about nosey neighbors?

Hmmm. Where is the nearest place to snowboard? Thinking of my next 'summer place' ha ha.[/QUOTE]Awesome snowboarding in Bariloche sweetheart. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Carlos_de_Bariloche[/url]

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1798905]You missed a sentence.

The prices I posted about the girls were expressed in Pesos not dollars. If you're commanding U$S 200 in the States that would be 1600 pesos here, there are no 1600 pesos providers. The picture I'm adding is a 700 peso girl that is TOTALLY PSE, BBBJ wherever you want to come, you can knock on the back door with the kind of vigor that most providers couldn't tolerate on the front door. I know we all say "She was really into it", but this one really does seem to be really in to it.

Awesome snowboarding in Bariloche sweetheart.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Carlos_de_Bariloche[/url][/QUOTE]I'll have to check the list of allowable import items but it seems to me that "heaven on earth" should be on there somewhere.

[QUOTE=Dweezil;1799023]I'll have to check the list of allowable import items but it seems to me that "heaven on earth" should be on there somewhere.[/QUOTE]Germany has the same hot loving available and they by law are supposed to have their women get tested every 30 days but we all know testing is only as valid as the first client after. America would be much better off legalizing it and having it's pariticpants tested. America could probably cut their debt in half just taxing the business and married women and men would be a lot happier in the process. Geez someone should write a book "sex for dummys" There would be a fortune in its self. God ya have ta love SA and the countries with the quality ladies who love the real thing and the men who love them Unfortunately in America it seems to be deny deny deny. Great post Dweezil and Ad 2. America in general is so purtanical and sexually in denial.