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[QUOTE=DirtyDuke;3514508]Maybe it was just me but I had assumed Lake retired and that the girls just stayed together to form a new business. Apparently that's not the case as I saw an ad up today where Lake is looking for some new girls. I always thought Lake did a great job with scheduling and keeping everyone happy so I'm very interested to see who she brings on board. Anyone know what on earth happened to make her main talent leave to do their own thing?[/QUOTE]Yes, I saw that also!
My experience with lake was awful. I had great experiences with the girls at ygnd but lake was extremely controlling. There was a situation where I was debating doing two hours and I told lake I'd ask the girl what it entailed and she flipped out and said everything goes through her. Told me it was no longer available and was very rude about it. Two hours later I got a text saying I'd been blacklisted, which I immediately laughed because I'd always been very chill with the provider. So I asked why and she gave me a massive list of reasons that wasn't even close to my experience then told me she was the best in the business for years and kept 'flexing'. I moved on and just never went back and know for a fact that the girl in question did not blacklist me.
There's a long story with this but needless to say In my experience she made alot of mistakes that reflected on the girls and they got tired of it. Maybe some of you didn't experience what I did but I thought she was the absolute worst and glad to see karma get her back.
I didn't feel like a very important person under Cindy's care, to say the least. I decided to treat myself to a nice massage today to celebrate some good news, and splurged for the 90 minute session after thoroughly enjoying the 60 minute rubdown three previous times. Instead of being shown to my usual masseuse, I was introduced to an older, overweight woman named Cindy.
I felt every passing second of the ninety minutes. I think she actually ended up stiffing me by about twenty minutes, but I was grateful to go. For the first 45 minutes of the massage, she simply rand her hands in a slow figure eight on my upper back. There was no pressure. It felt like nothing. That's the kind of half-assed massage your wife gives you while she's watching The Great British Bake-Off.
Each time I was about to say something, she would stop and move elsewhere, and I'd think, "finally. " Then, right one cue, the slow figure eight would begin again. I'm nonconfrontational, but I finally got irritated enough to sit up and ask her to move to my legs or something, when I noticed that the door was wide open. I had to ask her to close it three times before she finally did. First, she closed it halfway. Then, she pressed the door against the frame, leaving it open just a crack. I insisted again, and it finally clicked shut.
After an hour of a massage in which I was doing the most of the work, not so subtly trying to direct her attention elsewhere while she wore a path in my back skin, she finally told me to flip over. However, rather than finishing it up and releasing me from this hell of my own devisement, she started demanding to know what I was going to tip her to finish the experience. I didn't want to answer, but she persisted, asking "how much? How much? How much?" Each time giving me a little pat. I simply kept saying, "yes, you'll get a tip," but she wanted numbers.
When it became clear that I wasn't going to answer, she answered for me. "Fifty dollar. " I shook my head. "Fifty dollar?" Nothing. "Fifty dollar, okay?" Nope. "Okay, fifty dollar. ".
I let her do what she did. Ended up thrusting a handful of fives and singles, no more than twenty bucks at her, and leaving before she could make a scene about it. She's lucky she got that. I left today ANYTHING but happy. Terrible massage, high pressure sales tactics, no relaxation at all.
Long story short, if Cindy is the only girl available, you are better served just walking away.
[QUOTE=BiggWest;3514700]Yes, I saw that also![/QUOTE]I had a visit with Lilia earlier this week and she said the issue was not personal or some form of animosity with Lake. It was purely based on Lake not keep her ladies busy with clients. Just a steady decrease in visits each week for the last 6-8 months. No doubt Angel has them buzzing. Hard to get an appointement with these ladies right now. By the way, if you've never seen Lilia, you are simply a fool.
[QUOTE=ChuckFinley5;3515038]I didn't feel like a very important person under Cindy's care, to say the least. I decided to treat myself to a nice massage today to celebrate some good news, and splurged for the 90 minute session after thoroughly enjoying the 60 minute rubdown three previous times. Instead of being shown to my usual masseuse, I was introduced to an older, overweight woman named Cindy.
I felt every passing second of the ninety minutes. I think she actually ended up stiffing me by about twenty minutes, but I was grateful to go. For the first 45 minutes of the massage, she simply rand her hands in a slow figure eight on my upper back. There was no pressure. It felt like nothing. That's the kind of half-assed massage your wife gives you while she's watching The Great British Bake-Off.
Each time I was about to say something, she would stop and move elsewhere, and I'd think, "finally. " Then, right one cue, the slow figure eight would begin again. I'm nonconfrontational, but I finally got irritated enough to sit up and ask her to move to my legs or something, when I noticed that the door was wide open. I had to ask her to close it three times before she finally did. First, she closed it halfway. Then, she pressed the door against the frame, leaving it open just a crack. I insisted again, and it finally clicked shut.
After an hour of a massage in which I was doing the most of the work, not so subtly trying to direct her attention elsewhere while she wore a path in my back skin, she finally told me to flip over. However, rather than finishing it up and releasing me from this hell of my own devisement, she started demanding to know what I was going to tip her to finish the experience. I didn't want to answer, but she persisted, asking "how much? How much? How much?" Each time giving me a little pat. I simply kept saying, "yes, you'll get a tip," but she wanted numbers.
When it became clear that I wasn't going to answer, she answered for me. "Fifty dollar. " I shook my head. "Fifty dollar?" Nothing. "Fifty dollar, okay?" Nope. "Okay, fifty dollar. ".
I let her do what she did. Ended up thrusting a handful of fives and singles, no more than twenty bucks at her, and leaving before she could make a scene about it. She's lucky she got that. I left today ANYTHING but happy. Terrible massage, high pressure sales tactics, no relaxation at all.
Long story short, if Cindy is the only girl available, you are better served just walking away.[/QUOTE]This is a little concerning because it sounds like not only was she probably not licensed but also not counseled on how things work while not breaking any laws. Don't have to remind anyone here, but plainly negotiating "this" for "that" is always taking an unnecessary risk for either party.
[QUOTE=ChuckFinley5;3515038]I didn't feel like a very important person under Cindy's care.[/QUOTE]Oh wow. So that was her name. She said so mumbled I didn't understand. Had a visit last week. She's the one I got. Her appearance is kinda like one Of those hotel maids you are that have no sexual appeal at all. So maybe she give an excellent massage? Nope, one of the worst. Maybe she has a great personality? Like a brick wall. She has made me re- think ever going to VIP until I am certain there is no chance she works there. I gave her a bare minimum tip, probably not the only one, probably why she's trying to hard sell now.
[QUOTE=RubsAreFun;3514396]This looks like a new one in the Four Seasons Shopping Center in Chesterfield at Woods Mill and Olive. Anyone been there yet?
[URL]https://stlouis.craigslist.org/thp/d/sufei-spa-grand-opening-big/6268451405.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, just like all the rest, and not in a good way. Younger gal running the place, older gal, probably 50-60 doing the massage. Like watching paint dry, but with fewer clothes on.
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Finally a place where the whole family can DIY.[/QUOTE]HA HA. At least that's a real photo of Heather.
[QUOTE=Swirl1989;3509153]Anyone seen or have info on Destiny?
Small AA with a smokin body.
Pics appear to be legit. Curious if she's the real deal and what's on the table.
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-with-destiny/29674788[/URL][/QUOTE]Photos are real. Has a nice grip and knows how to stroke it. Some monger said she does FS for $. 7 after you see her a couple of times.
[QUOTE=PoolSideChair;3515124]I had a visit with Lilia earlier this week and she said the issue was not personal or some form of animosity with Lake. It was purely based on Lake not keep her ladies busy with clients. Just a steady decrease in visits each week for the last 6-8 months. No doubt Angel has them buzzing. Hard to get an appointement with these ladies right now. By the way, if you've never seen Lilia, you are simply a fool.[/QUOTE]Interesting to hear of Drake's experience of being blacklisted. A few months ago, I made an appt with Tammy and 15 minutes after she confirmed, I remembered an engagement and had to cancel. And she blacklisted me. It was still 4 hours before the appt! And it was for the.
I was there last week as well and I had a similar experience. I believe she told me her name was Celina.
I believe she is just saying a different name each time. I was sold 10 min short and she did do some head massage after but it was so light that it seemed it was just to kill some time. The worst massage I've ever had.
[QUOTE=Hesdeadjim;3515589]Oh wow. So that was her name. She said so mumbled I didn't understand. Had a visit last week. She's the one I got. Her appearance is kinda like one Of those hotel maids you are that have no sexual appeal at all. So maybe she give an excellent massage? Nope, one of the worst. Maybe she has a great personality? Like a brick wall. She has made me re- think ever going to VIP until I am certain there is no chance she works there. I gave her a bare minimum tip, probably not the only one, probably why she's trying to hard sell now.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChuckFinley5;3515038]I didn't feel like a very important person under Cindy's care, to say the least. I decided to treat myself to a nice massage today to celebrate some good news, and splurged for the 90 minute session after thoroughly enjoying the 60 minute rubdown three previous times. Instead of being shown to my usual masseuse, I was introduced to an older, overweight woman named Cindy.
I felt every passing second of the ninety minutes. I think she actually ended up stiffing me by about twenty minutes, but I was grateful to go. For the first 45 minutes of the massage, she simply rand her hands in a slow figure eight on my upper back. There was no pressure. It felt like nothing. That's the kind of half-assed massage your wife gives you while she's watching The Great British Bake-Off.
Each time I was about to say something, she would stop and move elsewhere, and I'd think, "finally. " Then, right one cue, the slow figure eight would begin again. I'm nonconfrontational, but I finally got irritated enough to sit up and ask her to move to my legs or something, when I noticed that the door was wide open. I had to ask her to close it three times before she finally did. First, she closed it halfway. Then, she pressed the door against the frame, leaving it open just a crack. I insisted again, and it finally clicked shut.
After an hour of a massage in which I was doing the most of the work, not so subtly trying to direct her attention elsewhere while she wore a path in my back skin, she finally told me to flip over. However, rather than finishing it up and releasing me from this hell of my own devisement, she started demanding to know what I was going to tip her to finish the experience. I didn't want to answer, but she persisted, asking "how much? How much? How much?" Each time giving me a little pat. I simply kept saying, "yes, you'll get a tip," but she wanted numbers.
When it became clear that I wasn't going to answer, she answered for me. "Fifty dollar. " I shook my head. "Fifty dollar?" Nothing. "Fifty dollar, okay?" Nope. "Okay, fifty dollar. ".
I let her do what she did. Ended up thrusting a handful of fives and singles, no more than twenty bucks at her, and leaving before she could make a scene about it. She's lucky she got that. I left today ANYTHING but happy. Terrible massage, high pressure sales tactics, no relaxation at all.
Long story short, if Cindy is the only girl available, you are better served just walking away.[/QUOTE]Cindy is the short plump lady with the rings that hurts? Every time I go to that place, I usually see the short plump lady and the other more attractive lady that helps you put your clothes back on. Since their English weren't that good, I couldn't understand what they were saying most of the time or hear their names so I have no idea who is who. Is it only those two though? I did see a young girl who looked like she could be in college but I assumed she was probably a relative since I only saw her once. Maybe I'm just going there at a bad time. What's a good hour that they should have more girls in there?
Anyone try this girl near the airport? Looks TGTBT.
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Thanks.
[QUOTE=PoolSideChair;3515124]I had a visit with Lilia earlier this week and she said the issue was not personal or some form of animosity with Lake. It was purely based on Lake not keep her ladies busy with clients. Just a steady decrease in visits each week for the last 6-8 months. No doubt Angel has them buzzing. Hard to get an appointement with these ladies right now. By the way, if you've never seen Lilia, you are simply a fool.[/QUOTE]So they left because they are losing business? Well one week into their new world pricing just jumped today to $145/ hr. That isn't a very good way to get MORE clients. I was going to go visit Lilia today but once I saw that I'll go see Jessica at YGND instead.