"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Colonoscopy;2690742]

A friend of mine is a big believer in the Autumn / Winter "cuffing season", when those who are normally happy being "single" pair up for the cold months by instinct. What's everyone's take on cuffing season and its affect on sugar babies? Or is it just the pre-holiday season where these ladies are more strapped for cash than usual?[/QUOTE]There's definitely something in the air. I canceled my SA account a few months ago after upgrading my SB to SO. Since the weather started getting colder out I've been overwhelmed by girls that I hadn't seen since Spring / Summer reaching out to me via email or text. There's girls that I never made a M&G with due to time conflicts or lack of interest reaching out as well. I even noticed my steady SB / GF has gotten more affectionate around the house now.

It could be money for the holidays or some female psychological urge. Who knows, but the season is keeping these girls on their toes and hopefully on my d1 £k and balls.

[i]Woulda sent this via PM but the box is full.[/i]

[QUOTE=Feral1;2695515]So as a member of SD4 Me I get a random contact from a SB in Texas telling me how she so wants to meet me. I PM her back asking how a Texas SB would work for a San Diego SD. Clever her, she has a car and if I send gas money she will drive out and treat me real nice. Hmmm, guys [b]what do you think the chances are she would actually show up? [/b]Think I will string her along to get some nude pictures then drop her.[/QUOTE]

Just for the cost of gas money she' gunna "treat you real nice?" No extra sugar? And you don't have to pay return travel fees?

I wouldn't call a girl who does this "clever," rather scheming, scamming or rinsing.

But hey, if you send me your Visa card number, expiration date, code on the back & zip code, I'll make sure she gets to your house! Yeah, that's the ticket! Or, we'll call you from Cancun.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Feral1;2695515]So as a member of SD4 Me I get a random contact from a SB in Texas telling me how she so wants to meet me. I PM her back asking how a Texas SB would work for a San Diego SD. Clever her, she has a car and if I send gas money she will drive out and treat me real nice. Hmmm, guys what do you think the chances are she would actually show up? Think I will string her along to get some nude pictures then drop her.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't even bother with that from my previous experience, it's usually a scam. I've learned from my previous mistakes. I once fronted an SB $20 for gas money to meet up. I talked to her for about two months before my visit to the city. Aparantely she didn't have enough money for gas and I wasn't in the mood for driving to her. So, I just sent it via money gram. I never heard back from her again and it was only $20. I consider myself lucky and now I wouldn't even dream of sending anything. If they are out range in the city that I am visiting, I wouldn't even bother.

[QUOTE=Falar;2695876]I wouldn't even bother with that from my previous experience, it's usually a scam. I've learned from my previous mistakes. I once fronted an SB $20 for gas money to meet up. I talked to her for about two months before my visit to the city. Aparantely she didn't have enough money for gas and I wasn't in the mood for driving to her. So, I just sent it via money gram. I never heard back from her again and it was only $20. I consider myself lucky and now I wouldn't even dream of sending anything. If they are out range in the city that I am visiting, I wouldn't even bother.[/QUOTE]I second this. The "travel money" scam is the one of the most common in long distance sugar. Google "mail order bride scams" and read all about its progenitor. Some of these con artists are willing to go to extreme lengths for a payout, however small. Look at the example here. Two months of conversation to clear $20. She could likely have made twenty times that with the same time investment playing things straight and actually meeting with a SD during those hours.

If a baby is that destitute that she can't afford to get to your location, then either travel to her (though you run the risk of finding a catfish at the other end of the road), or better yet, find someone closer or with the means to reach you. A better option is to offer her reimbursement for the trip costs, though quite a few salty daddies have used this as a reverse scam, and veteran babies will be just as wary of that offer as a daddy should be of the travel money request.

Of course, I've read plenty of accounts of well-off daddies flying potentials into their city on their dime, putting them up in a room, just on the chance it pays off. If you've got the means, and the up front layout of capital isn't going to set you back, then by all means, go for it if you think the potential reward outweighs the risk. I believe the finance guys call this "speculation". Just be prepared to take your losses if the investment tanks.

-Colo.

[QUOTE=Colonoscopy;2694812]Started conversing with a sweet new pot the other day. She mentioned she had been called a unicorn in her profile, so I had to send a message to make sure she knew what that meant in swinger-speak. She didn't know the specifics, but the context of her being called it were accurate to the definition. She's very bi and into group activities. My current #1 baby is also bi. Unicorn and I had a rapport by message and set up a M&G for tomorrow. We both were clear we have other sugar going on but would be interested in occasional play together. She also mentioned her desire for some group action. Win.

So, during last night's visit to the FC with SB #1, I brought up the unicorn, and to my delight, she's all about it. After tomorrow's M&G, if all looks well, I'll exchange their contact info and let them work out the details. Time to renew that gym membership and get some cardio in. One 24 yo baby is hard enough to keep up with. 2 may kill me, but I'll die with a smile. Now time to sacrifice a chicken on the altar of the gods of no cancellations.

-Colo.[/QUOTE]Everything was sounding great. SB #1 liked the idea, we exchanged Kik usernames with the unicorn, and had a meet and greet set for tonight. Then the unicorn started pressing us on specifics on the sugar before meeting us in person, and then, strangely started asking about our possible pot smoking habits, whether we did, if we could get some, and whether I'd be interested in forgoing a cash gift and providing her with some quantity of smoke instead. W-T-F? I live in a state that still hasn't passed medical marijuana laws, much less decriminalized simple possession, and here's this chick I met online asking me to commit a felony before we ever meet? DANGER WILL ROBINSON. DANGER. At best, she's got no common sense, and really poor judgment. At worst, local vice is now doing entrapment stings on SA.

SB #1 and I both agreed it will be much better if we forgo the mythical creature hunt, and instead, she finds us a third party. A tiny part of me thinks she just wants to ensure that whoever it is is less attractive than her, to ensure my post-3 some loyalty. If so, I'm actually okay with that. She's going to be more into it if she isn't worried I'm going to drop her for the strange, and if she picks the girl, then they're going to have a better time together, which should == me having a better time.

-Colo.

Gentlemen,

Some of you may already be aware of this, while others may not. I certainly was not so I'm posting in the interest of enlightenment.

It was time to renew my prescription for my little blue vitamins, which I get from All Day Chemist in India. My SO and I have recently moved into an apartment in the city, and I did not have an off-site mailbox set up yet. I went to my local UPS store that has mailboxes, and inquired about a one-month rental.

I was quoted a price for 3 months, their minimum, but was also told that they now have package receipt service, where for $5 per package, they will accept mail for anyone, and all I have to do is track it and go there when it shows they've received it, pay the 5 bucks, and no one is the wiser.

Clearly one of the brotherhood at UPS thought of that one!

So I loaded up 45 on my green dot card, placed my order with ADC, changed my shipping address to me, in care of the UPS store, and that was that. Thank you my Brother in Brown, whoever you are!

Happy holiday to you all, and keep up the good work.

Cheers,

Scott.

Quantitative Metrics I use for The Sugar World.

Cost Per Orgasm (CPO) = Total cost of the encounter / number of orgasms achieved.

Face / Body / Attitude / Performance (10/10/10/10)= Ratings of each one of those characteristics.

Time on Station (TOS) = total amount of time of the date.

Time in hole (TIH) = total amount of time behind closed doors.

This is how I will make quantitative evaluation of my Sugar World encounters. Rank the qualities that are most important to you and measure them. Of course the qualitative evaluations rein supreme. But everyone has a budget. And I like to get value for my money.

[QUOTE=Colonoscopy;2696020]Then the unicorn started pressing us on specifics on the sugar before meeting us in person, and then, strangely started asking about our possible pot smoking habits, whether we did, if we could get some, and whether I'd be interested in forgoing a cash gift and providing her with some quantity of smoke instead. W-T-F? I live in a state that still hasn't passed medical marijuana laws, much less decriminalized simple possession, and [b]here's this chick I met online asking me to commit a felony before we ever meet?[/b] DANGER WILL ROBINSON. DANGER. At best, she's got no common sense, and really poor judgment. At worst, local vice is now doing entrapment stings on SA.
-Colo.[/QUOTE]Not worth the risk, bringing drugs into the equation.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2693900]Damn, I used to frequent the DR forum on ISG. Some pretty damn fine pussies over there. Share some pics if you can bud.

Rock on![/QUOTE]If it is the Dominican Republic then HWG will be interested as he digs the exotic babes!

[QUOTE=FScott;2696202]Gentlemen,

Some of you may already be aware of this, while others may not. I certainly was not so I'm posting in the interest of enlightenment.

It was time to renew my prescription for my little blue vitamins, which I get from All Day Chemist in India. My SO and I have recently moved into an apartment in the city, and I did not have an off-site mailbox set up yet. I went to my local UPS store that has mailboxes, and inquired about a one-month rental.

I was quoted a price for 3 months, their minimum, but was also told that they now have package receipt service, where for $5 per package, they will accept mail for anyone, and all I have to do is track it and go there when it shows they've received it, pay the 5 bucks, and no one is the wiser.

Clearly one of the brotherhood at UPS thought of that one!

So I loaded up 45 on my green dot card, placed my order with ADC, changed my shipping address to me, in care of the UPS store, and that was that. Thank you my Brother in Brown, whoever you are!

Happy holiday to you all, and keep up the good work.

Cheers,

Scott.[/QUOTE]Noted. Thanks if I ever have to order something over seas.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2696828]Quantitative Metrics I use for The Sugar World.

Cost Per Orgasm (CPO) = Total cost of the encounter / number of orgasms achieved.

Face / Body / Attitude / Performance (10/10/10/10)= Ratings of each one of those characteristics.

Time on Station (TOS) = total amount of time of the date.

Time in hole (TIH) = total amount of time behind closed doors.

This is how I will make quantitative evaluation of my Sugar World encounters. Rank the qualities that are most important to you and measure them. Of course the qualitative evaluations rein supreme. But everyone has a budget. And I like to get value for my money.[/QUOTE]Now that's what I call having the expenses of sugaring down to a science. Good work bro.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2697561]If it is the Dominican Republic then HWG will be interested as he digs the exotic babes![/QUOTE]I'll take the Asians everyday and twice on Sunday. I love those lean little girl like bodies.

I had to travel for work, so hotel and travel was already a sunk cost. I own my own company, so I want to maximize the value!

I used to be in the consulting racket, but that was long before SA came along. Used to have to chat horny broads up in CompuServe Chat rooms, and emailing a photo over dial up was always a chore.

But at least none of them ever wanted a penny out of me, and tehre were some hot fucks back in the day.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2696828]Quantitative Metrics I use for The Sugar World.

Cost Per Orgasm (CPO) = Total cost of the encounter / number of orgasms achieved.

Face / Body / Attitude / Performance (10/10/10/10)= Ratings of each one of those characteristics.

Time on Station (TOS) = total amount of time of the date.

Time in hole (TIH) = total amount of time behind closed doors.

This is how I will make quantitative evaluation of my Sugar World encounters. Rank the qualities that are most important to you and measure them. Of course the qualitative evaluations rein supreme. But everyone has a budget. And I like to get value for my money.[/QUOTE]I find the time and effort just to get to the m&g should be tracked. I'm new to the SBSD4 me sit and have had lots of trouble with pro's and bad attitude girls. After on month going next week to first m&g. If this doesn't work out will rethink the entire program.

The last new profile in my area (large multi-college town-18 to 29 yr old (Caucasian / Asian) was 1 week ago. Typical seasonal slump? Or a scary new trend?