"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;6166458]I can't highlight what GoneForGood97 said about being charming, & looking for chemistry & fun dates, not all the girls are looking for $500 ppm but are looking to fulfill a bit of a fantasy & get some dick.

I have 2 girls I see weekly, one I do ppm for $200 everytime we meet up 24 year old college graduate spinner, the other is a 25 year old hispanic MILF spinner who I have on allowance at $1200 for 6 meets a month. Everything is a GFE, all bare, CIP & CIM.

My advice is start with your photos, all of your photos should be private. Make a note in your profile about the need to keep your face private as you need privacy due to work. Next your photos need to show you have some $$'s, vacation photos, I have one where I am in suit giving a speech at a convention in front of a couple hundred people, I also have a couple workout photos & headshots. I actually hired a photographer off of facebook marketplace for $200 to take family photos & got a bunch of good photos for use in my dating apps. Also don't mix your photos with seeking & social media, as they will come up on searches.

Don't be cheap when your first meeting, not by giving out a higher allowance but by taking the girl to a decent place to eat for a meet & greet instead of McDonalds or getting a no-tel on the first meetup. Book the fucking weston & take her for sushi if you want to meet her again. I can tell stories of girls who told me about meeting pots on a meet & greet at fast food place.

I target SBs between 23-33, All of my longer term SB's fall in this age group as most are getting started in life & need a few extra $$'s to make ends meet. Also this seems to be the age where they have the fantasy of being a SB & having a older guy "daddy" to buy them things. A lot of people confuse SB's with crackwhores, treating them like a girlfriend goes a long way toward making the SB dynamic work vs. Treating them like a hooker. The girls also have a lot of fantasies, you'd be surprised at places I have had sex & gotten blowjobs. Also during sex quite a few of the girls like being called baby & calling you daddy, there is a major fantasy element going on with a lot of the girls.[/QUOTE]So true. Make the meet & greet something classy. After that, the good ones will pursue you. Wear something nice, smell good, be groomed and polite. Spend a few bucks at a nice bar or sushi place.

Gentleman on the first date.

Fuck the living shit out if her on the second date. Leave a little envelope full of fifties on her nightstand when your done and compliment her on how she did.

You'd be amazed how many women between 18 and 28 are tired of boys who think sex is a 10 minute bj followed by going out drinking with their buddies. Give her a good 4 hour fuckathon. If you haven't cum at least twice and she's not a little sore the next day, you've failed.

The good ones will be back.

I spoke with her yesterday. Yes She is still at # ending 9609.

[QUOTE=Wolfish1;6169002]When was the last time you saw her? Is she still at # ending in 9609?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DavidGooms;6169076]I spoke with her yesterday. Yes She is still at # ending 9609.[/QUOTE]One of my ATFs. Always showed up in her nursing outfit with sexy Victoria Secret underneath.

[QUOTE=JustMikey;6169046]So true. Make the meet & greet something classy. After that, the good ones will pursue you. Wear something nice, smell good, be groomed and polite. Spend a few bucks at a nice bar or sushi place.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying at all that this is bad advice, but I almost never do a meet and greet, and I sure don't take them to dinner, mainly because I don't really enjoy it. I meet most all of them at a hotel, and have plenty of fun. I think if you are reasonable fuckable, and not heinous, and have $250-$350 in your hands, then most of these girls are going to be DTF. They want the money, and it genuinely turns them on. It makes them wet.

I have got to think I am just barely fuckable at this point, and I do have a few of them ghost me after I send them my pics, but the majority of them say "You're handsome, Daddy". Of course I'm not, but that means they would do me for the right # of Franklins.

I just have very few girls reject me (among the ones who even respond to my first message). If the money is right. It doesn't matter where I meet them or what I do with them, they are down for some naked fun.

So again I don't think you guys are wrong with saying to wine and dine them and all that, but it's also not necessary in the majority of cases, at least from my experience. And I've done at least 30+ of these SBs. I would have to look at my records.

And once they have sex with you the first time, then you are a known quantity, and it's even easier money to get together again. They already know you are safe and ok. (I don't repeat with many of them though, because I get less bang for my buck, and new pussy is almost always so much more intense, for me.)

Now for the super pretty 9's and 10's, they would often require a somewhat different strategy, but I don't have the bank roll for them anyway. That is a whole other world, the $500+ girls.

I just wanted to present a slightly different perspective and approach, that works as well, but clearly what you guys are doing is also very effective. But ultimately money talks, as long as you are polite and respectful from the start.

[QUOTE=DavidGooms;6169076]I spoke with her yesterday. Yes She is still at # ending 9609.[/QUOTE]Could somebody pass me her number again? I deleted it after she never got back to me. Want to try her again to see if she will see me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c6da8de-9be5-4962-a5d4-2e3a1cddc3e7[/URL]

[URL]https://linktr.ee/Thegoldenlyfe[/URL]

Pro. Wanted me to book a nuru massage, was asking $300 for it. Even has a website set up for bookings.

But that body. Might just go through with it. Anyone have experience?

[QUOTE=BeaRemy84;6169746][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c6da8de-9be5-4962-a5d4-2e3a1cddc3e7[/URL]

[URL]https://linktr.ee/Thegoldenlyfe[/URL]

Pro. Wanted me to book a nuru massage, was asking $300 for it. Even has a website set up for bookings.

But that body. Might just go through with it. Anyone have experience?[/QUOTE]Like a young Kathleen Turner. Makes my "Body Heat" explode.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6169343]I'm not saying at all that this is bad advice, but I almost never do a meet and greet, and I sure don't take them to dinner, mainly because I don't really enjoy it. I meet most all of them at a hotel, and have plenty of fun. I think if you are reasonable fuckable, and not heinous, and have $250-$350 in your hands, then most of these girls are going to be DTF. They want the money, and it genuinely turns them on. It makes them wet.

I have got to think I am just barely fuckable at this point, and I do have a few of them ghost me after I send them my pics, but the majority of them say "You're handsome, Daddy". Of course I'm not, but that means they would do me for the right # of Franklins.

I just have very few girls reject me (among the ones who even respond to my first message). If the money is right. It doesn't matter where I meet them or what I do with them, they are down for some naked fun.

So again I don't think you guys are wrong with saying to wine and dine them and all that, but it's also not necessary in the majority of cases, at least from my experience. And I've done at least 30+ of these SBs. I would have to look at my records..[/QUOTE]Yes, I totally agree. I went to dinner once, and that was with the first chic I met on seeking. Since then, all of my initial meets were in the hotel room. I exchange messages on the site, get the contact number and send over my photo, then I use my lines to let her know that I am seeking intimate meetings only. Some ask for a public meeting first, but I politely decline and state that I'll reserve a room and we can have a drink and talk there.

Below is a response I received after I declined a chic from seeking who requested to meet in public.

*No no you're perfectly fine, I would still like to meet for intimacy! I usually just prefer public meetings for the first time but I'm not against going without it.

Urcutebestfriend:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2f1660de-1545-4d6c-b235-9c690884d315[/URL]

Was pretty aggressive about meeting and having fun. When I inquired about ppm and how much, she replies "a lot" and "I'm not cheap at all babe". So I never replied to find out how much is "a lot." I'm sure someone out there knows? LOL, just literally got a text from her wanting to play tonight.

Violet:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/358f1c6b-c786-401d-b409-e9f974900c8b[/URL]

She wants 500, I threw out 250 and she said she didn't think this will work unfortunately. I'm sure you can get her down off that 500 but I didn't try. I just said since I've never met you, it's hard to say and she replied "I understand."

[QUOTE=QuartJess;6170130]Yes, I totally agree. I went to dinner once, and that was with the first chic I met on seeking. Since then, all of my initial meets were in the hotel room. I exchange messages on the site, get the contact number and send over my photo, then I use my lines to let her know that I am seeking intimate meetings only. Some ask for a public meeting first, but I politely decline and state that I'll reserve a room and we can have a drink and talk there.
[/QUOTE]That is even more hardcore than me, and I will usually just meet them outside of the hotel to make sure they are comfortable, before I even book a room. But this is mainly for my protection, so they don't flake and not show up and I'm out the hotel $.

I've never had one meet me there and not come up to the room. Again they want that $$ so it would take a lot for them to bail, once they actually show up.

If one insisted we meet for coffee before going to the hotel, I would do it, but I'm not taking them to dinner. I'm just not.

[QUOTE=BeaRemy84;6169746][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c6da8de-9be5-4962-a5d4-2e3a1cddc3e7[/URL]

But that body. Might just go through with it. Anyone have experience?[/QUOTE]Am I missing something? She is fat.

And I am fine with fat girls occasionally, and have banged some huge ones, but I've never said they had an amazing body.

[QUOTE=DavidGooms;6169076]I spoke with her yesterday. Yes She is still at # ending 9609.[/QUOTE]Is her profile still up?

[QUOTE=BumbaCloth;6171502]Is her profile still up?[/QUOTE]No, she disabled her profile months ago. Usually, she texts me asking if I'm available on certain upcoming days.

[QUOTE=CurtisJo;6169170]One of my ATFs. Always showed up in her nursing outfit with sexy Victoria Secret underneath.[/QUOTE]Here's a picture of Sarah leaving a recent meeting. I love you, Sarah. LOL.

[QUOTE=QuartJess;6172121]Here's a picture of Sarah leaving a recent meeting. I love you, Sarah. LOL.[/QUOTE]Damn, I have just never gotten around to seeing her, but I really do need to change that. She's across town from me, but seems like may be worth the drive. Sounds like a sweetheart.