Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=TheBrestMan;4108201]So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?[/QUOTE]"Real" or "an app" number, it's just another number. The speed at which you two meet is determined by how desperate she is, not the number. Take the same precautions as you have no idea who is on the other end. Don't text anything incriminating and for heaven's sake, if you do meet, don't pay until after the deed.

Her next step is to start the "I don't want to see anyone else but you game. ".

Which leads to any number of stories all crafted to get money from you.

Since you say that you two have never hooked up, I think she is setting you up for more than you are bargaining for.

Call her bluff. Tell her you want to "be with her" or you are moving on. She will either go crickets or see you and then start asking for money. If either happens, just block both numbers and move on.

[QUOTE=TheBrestMan;4108201]So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheBrestMan;4108201]So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?[/QUOTE]I have gotten personal numbers from several I've been a regular of. It keeps them from having to weed through a bunch of bullshit and time wasters to get to someone serious about meeting. But I've ever gotten one from someone I've never met. My advice is to follow the advice in the posts below.

LL.

Thank you all for your ideas and help. I figured I'd try to see her at least once to see what happens, but I'll keep caution in my back pocket. She just has 'that' body type I have a hard time saying 'no' to.

"I was reenacting Tommy Boy. ".

[QUOTE=Ceenote;4104822]Nice story, but I think most wives are going to give the same look of skepticism that Skylar gave Walter when he told that tale:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIC9_k40U[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LiamBrennan;4109785]Based on that? $300/ hr? Serious? Does she have two pussies?[/QUOTE]Ouch, or maybe I have two jobs?

[QUOTE=LiamBrennan;4109688]... I'll definitely be making an appointment for this one and will post a review immediately but that might be too late for most of you. Just letting you other Latina and / or big tittied and / or eros fans know that one is coming to town, they're not terribly frequent and when they do come to town I think it's not a bad idea to encourage business so more of them will come back (as opposed to the crap we usually get) ...

Her name is Lina Lara. She wants $400 for the hour but a 30 min deal for $250, and hell, no way I'm lasting a full hour if she's any good at all. I'd be lucky to last 20 minutes if we skip the small talk.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, My god I can get 5 to 6 providers for that. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4110505]We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, My god I can get 5 to 6 providers for that. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;3869438]What the fuck is that? Didn't know there was a price list for a fair market value or a instruction manual on how to price providers for a fair market value. Anyone have one I would like to see it. LOL Or can we go to the stock market and find it or a auction. Come on get real. A deal is what you pay for and if that provider pleased you and gave you satisfaction. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]I'm pulling for you. Stick to your guns and one day we'll all be fucking unicorns for free.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4110505]We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, 189,407.54. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.

I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.

And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.

Well said.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;4111556]Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.

I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.

And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hooter12;4111556]Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.

I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.

And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.[/QUOTE]I think the car analogy said it best. Can I afford a Mercedes? Yes. Am I willing to pay that amount? No. Not worth it to me. But it obviously is to someone else or else they'd lower the price.

LL

You all changed my mind I think every one of you should pay 500 per HH. To every provider you meet. Hell its only fair. As they say PUSSY is PUSSY. Its all good. LOL and I will watch you all go broke happy. Give them The 500 and I bet they love you long time! Until the next one walks in LOL Lenny6746.

And this, my friends, is what we call the wonderful experiment of capitalism. Well said.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;4111556]Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.

I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.

And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.[/QUOTE]

I will admit that I am the weirdo here. Very simply I believe a woman should be paid for what activities and performance rather than a set amount for a period of time. Since I do longer dates of 5 hours, I want a lot of action. Very simply if a woman does not agree to my bonus system and wants a fixed 160 to 200 then I wish them well and say goodbye. I am not willing to spend more than 100 per hour just for a woman's time, but I offer set bonuses for the things I want in addition to the price for her time. If a woman wants to fulfill bonus items, such as a fixed amount for each type of nut I get, it is not uncommon for woman to make 700 to a 1000. This way she gets paid for the service provided and is an incentive for her to work harder, not for just an amount of time. Just an old man with his strange way of doing things.

ST.

Tried a game once.

1st pop $50.

2nd pop $75 so 125 total.

3rd pop $100=225.

4th would have been 125=350 but I tapped out gave her 300 for the effort. Was a great day. Man I need a return trip to Vegas.