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Are there really none of us who haven't lined up multiple SBs and then decided which one to go with and cancelled the others?
Granted, we probably don't do that with less than a couple of hours notice, but I know several, myself included who play the odds.
I was just out of town and lined up 2 or 3 for each night I was in town, and each night one bailed on me and I cancelled one to go with the Best Available Player on the board.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2684473]First off. Facial recognition. I NEVER put a real picture of me out there in cyberspace when it comes to any form of Mongering. The pictures I do share are dude I gave found thousands of miles away. Never had a girl complain that what showed up was different (worse) that what was sent. I have taken shots of me and shots of some other dude and used one of those merge programs that gives a composite. It looks enough like me, but enough different.
Now when setting up the new account, I had no pictures posted yet! Can't get into it yet!
As far as the "stuff" that is attached to a photo in the background. I always copy part of the image from the original and paste it into a Paint of something and save it as a different file type (for example jpeg vs bmp).
Yeah, I know that nothing on line is ever truly anonymous. But as a buddy told me (he was a cop then a public defender) if the system wants to find you, they will find you! But he said the resources required to do that are so great it outweighs the value on a case that is a misdemeanor.
So from what you appear to be saying. There is no way to set up a fake FB account, since the computer internals will alert FB to a duplicate account?[/QUOTE]As long as you do something to obscure face (black out / blur etc) facial recognition usually won't be able to overcome it, it's just that FB is quietly investing a lot more in this than others (and they have the bucks to do it) so no one really knows what cards they have under the table in that area. Most of my comments re: pictures only refer to uploading them to FB, not e-mailing privately or whatever. I just wanted to point it out for you or anyone else reading on, that uploading a photo with visible face under one account, then later uploading a different photo of same person under a different account has probably irreversibly linked those two identities in FB's record keeping, such that if they ever wanted a "real" FB account and upload a photo of themselves, FB now has linked the real identity to the prior fake ones. As they say, once it's uploaded to the Net it's there forever.
The cop / public defender was correct about expenditure of public resources, however in this case companies like FB, who have huge amounts of capital to throw toward the task of tracking people, are taking care of the expenditure part so that the law doesn't have to. A lot of times LEO are able to put cases together based on what is already publicly available on social media. Facebook has become an incredibly handy investigation tool for them, and that's without even subpoenaing FB or asking for cooperation!
An analogy: Imagine if some clever entrepreneur came along, and decided to provide free hotel rooms by the hour to any couple who needed a discrete place to fuck. Every one from cheating couples to mongerers to the sugar scene to young people who can't afford their own place would say "holy shit this is too good to pass up! A free fuck chamber as a public service!"...... Only catch is, the clever entrepreneur retains the right to two things: to display advertisements on the TV in the room, and also save a sample of everyone's DNA who enters one of the rooms, catalog it, and basically own the cataloging of that information as intellectual property, finding ways of monetizing that property as they see fit. All of that DNA collection, funded by advertisements, could then be made available to law enforcement and criminals would start getting busted left and right without even knowing HTF LE got their DNA in the first place. This is in essence what Facebook (and social media in general) is in the business of doing -- not with sex and biological DNA of course but they are in the business of cataloging people. And a lot of people are going happily along without fully understanding the consequences to privacy and individual freedoms.
But, just to clarify I didn't mean to imply an SD has anything to fear (criminally) by being on Facebook -- that part is just as your friend said, misdemeanors are too small and there are bigger fish to fry. But for those who are married or have other reasons to protect their anonymity, it is a big concern.
About your last question -- is there a way to set up a fake FB account? I don't know all the mechanisms they may be employing to detect / prevent duplicates, I just suspect based on what you've said that this is the obstacle you've encountered. I have a fake FB account but I have not created one in a while. I do know that a lot of the services I've used to create burner email addresses in the past now want phone authentication, and they also have something in place that is able to differentiate valid mobile numbers from something like Hushed which lets you buy disposable phone numbers. All just a sign that this shit is getting more and more difficult to do anonymously.
If I were going to try to create a new FB account and their system had already flagged me as a duplicate, I would probably first try to take some steps that are well into the discussion of computer forensics and beyond reach of something that can be practically discussed here or taught in any reasonable amount of time, but if those methods failed me, I would just try from a different computer over an anonymized VPN.
Sure, when there are multiple pots in play, it makes sense to line up multiple options in case one or two flake, or if one isn't as her picture shows.
My approach is to line up three dates within an hour of each other, and then set up a "tentative" date. When I have enough pots to line up a tentative date, I let the third know: "hey, I have one or two commitments on Saturday afternoon, but if I free up, let's try to get together. I'll make sure to text you to give you a heads up if I am able to meet. If something comes up on your end, just let me know. ".
Now if things with pot 1 go well, you can take a short break to see pot 2, and then tell the tentative date that you can't get out of your committments. If things with pot 1 don't work, or if she flakes, then you can read and respond to work emails for a few minutes until the next m&g. If both firm dates flake, then the tentative date could still be an option if she didn't make any plans.
Just my two cents on how I avoid flaking, while also keeping multiple pots in play. To date I have not exceeded the 3 m&g strategy because it would be too complicated for me.
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2684587]Are there really none of us who haven't lined up multiple SBs and then decided which one to go with and cancelled the others?
Granted, we probably don't do that with less than a couple of hours notice, but I know several, myself included who play the odds.
I was just out of town and lined up 2 or 3 for each night I was in town, and each night one bailed on me and I cancelled one to go with the Best Available Player on the board.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2679413]Use the [URL]hotels.com[/URL] app and book when she is in front of you.
Always good to have a back up gal you see occassionally to promote to a regular.[/QUOTE]Just be careful it doesn't charge to your card right away. Presuming you want to pay cash.
Many of the [URL]hotel.com[/URL] rooms will charge you straight away. Always, make sure that the reservation is pay at the hotel. That way you can pay cash. Or better yet use a gift card.
I've been off SA for about 3 months but been getting messages from pots so was wondering if anyone knows how SA works as far as when they ask you to come back at a discount?
And does your acct have to be totally inactive before they ask you back bec I've been signing on to see who has been contacting me but unable to read the messages so was just wondering if I wait longer if they will give me the discount rate?
[QUOTE=BikeRider;2685129]Just be careful it doesn't charge to your card right away. Presuming you want to pay cash.
Many of the [URL]hotel.com[/URL] rooms will charge you straight away. Always, make sure that the reservation is pay at the hotel. That way you can pay cash. Or better yet use a gift card.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know how long it takes for SA to offer the discount rate after you have been expired for a while?
I have not renewed in three months and have received a few messages from pots in the past two weeks so I signed on to see who sent them but can not read them so I don't know if that counts as being inactive?
I am just wondering if I wit longer how long does it take for SA to offer the come back rate?
[QUOTE=SugarDaddyX;2671606]I had two meets set for yesterday.
The first meet was at a Chili's at 1 pm. I had texted with the SB all day before. Then I texted to confirm an hour before the meet. She did not reply. She texted later in the day, wanting to push it back a few hours to 3 pm. Then, when I tried to reconfirm again a half hour before, no reply. She texts around 5 pm, apologizing that her phone died. Yeah, right. She used that excuse twice in a 24 hour period already. I just told her that time is money, and she wasted my whole afternoon. My guess is that she might have been meeting with other SD's. Even though she works a regular job, she seems UTR. I have a low tolerance for bullshit, so this one is cut loose.[/QUOTE]This one starts texting me 8 days after flaking, asking if I could meet. I told her that since she wasted my time last week, she'd have to meet for free. I did not specify further. She went off and cussed me out. She jumped to her own assumptions. This told me she is UTR and has a long list of John's that she mass texts every time she needs money. As she will get multiple responses every time, she will try to juggle them and maximize her money. This is why she kept pushing my M&G several hours back at a time throughout the day. She was getting the regulars serviced before getting to a new potential john. I am interested in a GFE low / no volume SB, not doing a proverbial "train" with a bunch of guys she meets off SA. Sure enough, I Google her SA handle and only one result comes up: a post about two weeks prior on my local USASG board of a whoremongerer saying he banged her and was willing to share info on her. I'm sure she has dozens of John's after her. No thanks.
[QUOTE=SugarDaddyX;2671606]I had a meetup set at another chain restaurant at 7 for dinner. This SB is so broke, that her phone got disconnected due to not paying the bill. All communication was through the sugar website. She confirmed that she was going to be there three hours prior. Then about 6:45, she messages that she is having car trouble and asks if we can reschedule tomorrow. I don't even bother to reply. One strike, and you're out.[/QUOTE]This one kept lighting up my SA account. Apologizing at first, then several days later saying how horrible I was because I don't have patience. I never knew someone who could have a car breakdown, then have the thing fixed the next day by lunch when they have no money. These SB's are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. If she really wanted to meet, she could have asked for a ride or taken a taxi to be paid by me upon arrival.
In other news, I was talking to a 22 year old black girl. Her use of the English language was pretty bad, but her body looked good so I went along with it. Eventually she suggests we Skype. She sends me her Skype name. It turns out she uses the same name for Inatagram. The pictures in Instagram were a lot less appealing, not the fit body she portrayed on SA. She also used the word "nigga" several times in every ebonics-laden post. It looked like there was a gang banger / pimp / boyfriend in the pictures as well. A little web-sleuthing saved me time and from possibly getting robbed.
It's been a while since I have had any significant amount of free time from my SO of over 40 years, and I have to admit that I'm pretty excited to have 5 full nights and 2 full weekend days to play in the bowl to my hearts content starting this Friday. My plans aren't really firmed up yet, but I'm trying to line up a few regulars as well as maybe a few new Pots to interview during that time. My tentative plans are:
- Meet up with my 20 YO regular at least twice and spend some unrushed quality time with her for a change instead of having to worry so much about my normal curfew.
- Finally reel in a sweet 20 something HSB that I've been flirting with off and on for the past year. We have dated several times and most ended in some exciting car action, but has always ended just short of the FC.
- Try to convince this new Nando1 that I recently met to give it up for the first time ever to an older SD. She is worried about feeling like a prostitute for taking cash for an intimate get together and I've been using my best selling skills to convince her otherwise.
- Try out several newly discovered UTR girls in my area that I just haven't had the time to enjoy recently.
I know the 5 days will fly by fast and furious. Wish me luck and I'll give you all some feedback once my vacation has ended.
Alias.
Discount only applies if you signed up and didn't upgrade. After you upgrade once, the discount is never offered again. I resolve this by contantly creating a new account.
[QUOTE=PARepOman;2685470]I've been off SA for about 3 months but been getting messages from pots so was wondering if anyone knows how SA works as far as when they ask you to come back at a discount?
And does your acct have to be totally inactive before they ask you back bec I've been signing on to see who has been contacting me but unable to read the messages so was just wondering if I wait longer if they will give me the discount rate?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SugarDaddyX;2685884]Sure enough, I Google her SA handle and only one result comes up: a post about two weeks prior on my local USASG board of a whoremongerer saying he banged her and was willing to share info on her. I'm sure she has dozens of John's after her. No thanks.
[/QUOTE]I probably would have gone ahead and wasted the few moments to PM the monger and ask for her number to confirm 100% it was the same girl. As well as to get her "other" pricing.
Then I could have sent her a copy of the "review" post as a parting gift.
Got to educate these girls that we are watching and the regular working girls need to stay off the SA type sites. IMHO /.
[QUOTE=AliasSM;2686026]
- Try to convince this new Nando1 that I recently met to give it up for the first time ever to an older SD. She is worried about feeling like a prostitute for taking cash for an intimate get together and I've been using my best selling skills to convince her otherwise.[/QUOTE]How about expensive gifts of things she needs or wants but wouldn't buy for herself or gift cards? Maybe that could lessen the "sting" of an exchange? One LT Sb always talked about "help" as a way to avoid feeling used. (cash was always provided, but never mentioned).
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2686709]How about expensive gifts of things she needs or wants but wouldn't buy for herself or gift cards? Maybe that could lessen the "sting" of an exchange? One LT Sb always talked about "help" as a way to avoid feeling used. (cash was always provided, but never mentioned).[/QUOTE]Welcome back to the active Sugaring Alias. This girl does not sound like a Nando 1. They are usually desperate and will take anything they can get. They are beyond caring about feeling used.
What kind of discount are we talking about?
[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2686155]Discount only applies if you signed up and didn't upgrade. After you upgrade once, the discount is never offered again. I resolve this by contantly creating a new account.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys, I am a complete newbie in the world of SD / SB thing. Now I finally got a couple POts interested in meeting me. What advice you can give me so I can persuade them to like me and move them from M&G to FC? Some girls want me compensate for the M&G. Should I just bluntly say NO?
Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=LaoMai;2687566]Hey guys, I am a complete newbie in the world of SD / SB thing. Now I finally got a couple POts interested in meeting me. What advice you can give me so I can persuade them to like me and move them from M&G to FC? Some girls want me compensate for the M&G. Should I just bluntly say NO?
Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]Be yourself and honest. Stay relaxed. Don't act like you are desperate or creepy. Don't pay anything until the panties hit the floor. If she expects money just to show up to a M&G, then she is a scammer or looking for a platonic relationship. You don't owe them anything, especially when they show up 30 lbs heavier and years older than their pics. This is her chance to prove that she is the person she portrayed herself to be online. Buy them a drink and / or food and that is it. Only give her allowance money if you go to the FC straight from the M&G.