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Is there anyway to book a hotel during these times?
[QUOTE=EuHunter;4775956]Is there anyway to book a hotel during these times?[/QUOTE]In NH the hotels are available if you tell them you are a first responder or self quarantine. I'm sure you can get a room without any effort.
[QUOTE=EuHunter;4775956]Is there anyway to book a hotel during these times?[/QUOTE]I have in MA. Just tell them you are a essential employee. It satisfied my hotel. .
-JW.
[QUOTE=PaulRew;4417572]I have seen this one a couple of times. Can't host but good communication and exceptionally dependable. Pretty much everything on the menu, 3 holes, all bare. I won't mention exact donation as one of you "friends" here effed me when you didn't get your way with an SB I posted about but will say she is around $300.
Pics are fairly accurate but add maybe 5-10#.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/07012d27-978e-4015-bcf3-b3ce22f794e0[/URL]
I am close to posting about a 19 yo spinner I have fuucked many times, bare with test, and unbelievable porn star oral. An actual verified college girl and a definite keeper but I am getting bored. Will trade, in kind, for this one prior to posting.
Lastly, has anyone had any luck even getting a response from this one? Seems TGTBT for a sick bastard like me LOL.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9ed84356-53ec-4ba7-8472-9028231bf0b2[/URL][/QUOTE]Posted about this one above (first in the post) she is riding the site hard now and was working brick and mortar retail so assume she needs cash. Possible her host ability has changed. Will share digits with anyone that has helped me in the past or can share a girl that is CURRENT.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/07012d27-978e-4015-bcf3-b3ce22f794e0[/URL]
Also looking for info on [B]Candyy[/B].
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1c8c133b-58e5-4894-901e-e7c2c6e153ab[/URL]
[B]Mischancedly[/B]
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/11f21f98-a72d-48d2-bcda-29702218faa4[/URL]
[B]Bridgette29[/B]
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b684608f-1e9c-4893-938f-8282ef5a94ba[/URL]
Had a lot of free time during quarantine and found SA to be a gold mine. Both in Florida and up here. Time, patience, and a little work has been very rewarding with quality non-pro girls.
Wrote about my overall experience with SA and some of the girls I've met in this Florida post: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19532-Sugar-Baby&p=4768440&viewfull=1#post4768440[/URL]
Back in Boston, have had 3 good meets. The best was with an early 30's non-pro freak who loves sex and $$ (my favorite kinda girl). Classy, fun personality, and great service. Set up was easy. She does some screening through text to make sure she liked me and rule out safety concerns. Once we talked and got to know each other, she was dtf.
Car date because she couldn't host. Drove to spot, talked, smoked chilled. Then onto the action. BBBJCIM on the menu. Had her in the backseat. She has some limits which she states up front. This girl is a sub and if you treat her nice and with respect and not like a douchebag, you can pretty much have here any way you want and she will enjoy it. Freaky girl. Will definately repeat.
I can't find her SA link right now, but SMs can PM me for her direct digits. She said I can give them out (and looking for the $$ for some needed expenses). Told me she can host now. Will be seeing her later this week.
Good luck and stay safe. DPM.
[QUOTE=DaPoonMan;4780621]Had a lot of free time during quarantine and found SA to be a gold mine. Both in Florida and up here. Time, patience, and a little work has been very rewarding with quality non-pro girls.
Wrote about my overall experience with SA and some of the girls I've met in this Florida post: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19532-Sugar-Baby&p=4768440&viewfull=1#post4768440[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DaPoonMan;4768440]I have experienced all the bad stuff mentioned here: girls with GPS, the scammers, fakes, the time wasters. A lof of the girls expecting to get 100's of dollars for online-only relationships. The long conversations and plans made, then ghosting. The ones that only want platonic. And unfortunately with so many lost jobs, a lot of desperate girls with sob stories.
But I have found it is exactly like a gold mine. If you have the time and the patience, you will strike gold. It will take some work and a lot of filtering out the bad ones. Lucily with quarantine, I had a lot of time on my hand.
I've Been here in Orlando for a month and have met 4 girls all aged from 19 - 21. All BBBJCIM. Most open to BBFS if I wanted. Some even bbcip (if you buy morning after pill). I have a few lined up whe are willing to meet but waiting on quarantine to end. And a few lined up for when I get back home up north. One girl I suspect is a working girl. But the other 3 are normal non-pros who either need the money, like being with older guys, or both.
I find if you talk to them nicely, treat them with respect, get to know them, use coded words for sex, better results with knockout girls. Some seemed dtf from the jump. Some it took days of texting. I didn't do meet or greets or dates before meeting. I just made them feel comfortable through texting before we met. And the most I payed was $300 for 3 hours. 2 went for 200.
The one that I suspect is a pro is 19 and literally beautiful (model type). Tight little body, loves to please and really freaky. I've seen her twice. She said she is looking for more financial help and agreed for me to give her # out. She's not like escort. Will screen and only meet if the vibe is right. Sweet girl. So step to her with respect and don; t treat her like a ***** and you can have her. Any SM fee free to PM for her digits.[/QUOTE]
Amen brother! I've been on SA on and off for 2 years. The past month is like shooting fish in a barrel. Good talent is plentiful and can be had for 250 - 300 with the occasional 200 becoming more frequent the further we get into the pandemic. While I realize that's more than many guys here will pay, it's very reasonable for a sugar baby that gives hours of time, not a clock watcher, with few limits. It's a different type of culture, different world, not for everyone.
As the man said, talk to them nicely, treat them with respect, get to know them, etc. It takes time and persistence but the payoff is immense.
This Covid 19 situation has put me in a awful Rut. What's everyone's opinion on SA vs WYP? Which site is better to find a good Utr girl for a decent price? Boy do I miss the good old craigslist days.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4783949]This Covid 19 situation has put me in a awful Rut. What's everyone's opinion on SA vs WYP? Which site is better to find a good Utr girl for a decent price? Boy do I miss the good old craigslist days.[/QUOTE]I tried to hack WYP, and I could not. On the other hand, hacking SA and sending messages without paying that crooked site, if you know how, is extremely easy. So for me that's a no brainer. I did also notice notice that some of the same hoes are on both sites.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4783949]This Covid 19 situation has put me in a awful Rut. What's everyone's opinion on SA vs WYP? Which site is better to find a good Utr girl for a decent price? Boy do I miss the good old craigslist days.[/QUOTE]I've had much better luck with SA. But I'm pretty particular. If you are less picky, then wyp might be more cost effective. But, if cost is a big issue (SA is $90 to sign up, and expect to spend $300 per meet), this might not be what you're looking for. Also, it takes time to meet up.
Gents, I've been getting a lot of messages asking for my SA hack method. For reasons that at present will remain unsaid, and to save a lot of time and effort in individual correspondence, please note that I am not sharing my method with anyone else, seniors or otherwise, at this time.
In response to the favorable comments here, well here has been my experience the second time around. Three dozen messages and three responses. One could not believe that I was not interested in pictures and videos and expressed her wishes in a bitchy manner. One was funnier as hell. I shared my private photo and then she not only dropped me but dropped out of SA immediately after viewing my picture. The third is basically a fat MILF and she has since ghosted me. Contrast this my first time around. Almost everybody responded. Three girls I met were all bbfscip after first meet. One I kept for several months and she was smoking. Sadly, she moved on. So my point is, I think the coronavirus has made things worse in my experience.
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[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4783949]This Covid 19 situation has put me in a awful Rut. What's everyone's opinion on SA vs WYP? Which site is better to find a good Utr girl for a decent price? Boy do I miss the good old craigslist days.[/QUOTE]I have met girls from both sites and I don't have an active account. The SA girls are better quality in my opinion but do come with a high entrance fee. I just hooked up with a girl that originally wanted $1000 about 6 months ago. I rejected her offer with a counter offer of $200 and said our thank you and goodbyes.
Out of the blue she pinged me and asked if I still was interested. When a slim, smoking hot 22 yo asks for a hook up I certainly won't say no. I mentioned we had a large donation gap but we agreed on $300 and the deal was set. I won't pay over 300 so some girls get passed on but times are tough for some girls so it has worked out for me. If you have deeper pockets and patience SA can be productive however there are a lot of GPS and platonic ladies on there. The main issue I find with SA, other than the higher prices, is that most of the younger ladies can't do an Incall. The ladies that I prefer fall into this category most of the time so if I land a safe incall girl I keep her around as long as possible. I have given up on the traditional escort sites like STG, etc. Too many rip-off opportunities and I had to pull a gun on one event back in the BP days so I just want the drama free girls. So far so good but they just aren't as many of them to chose from.
The problem with WYP is the higher the offer the more tokens it takes to open the message. So $100 is 20 tokens and I figured that's a decent number to get girls to hit yes, and some do, but some of these girls love to hit that counter button like we are in some serious negotiation and nothing can be changed once we agree on a number. I even put in my bio to just accept the initial offer and we will talk about a better number after but I still get counters of $200, which is 40 tokens, and one even sent one for $500.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4783949]This Covid 19 situation has put me in a awful Rut. What's everyone's opinion on SA vs WYP? Which site is better to find a good Utr girl for a decent price? Boy do I miss the good old craigslist days.[/QUOTE]I find that the 2 sites attract very different types of women. IN GENERAL, more pro's on WYP. More of an escort vibe. More women looking for an hourly hookup. No need to take them for coffee first. They know what they are there for and to provide. Versus SA, where one can more easily find what I like, the girl-next-door student, grad student, young professional who needs some funds, loves sex, and often loves the kink of being paid for it. But the downside of SA is that to find that you have to weed out the "platonics" and gps and women who are titillated but too scared to act or are just time-wasters.
So for me it's a no-brainer; SA for me. But it takes effort and $90/ month.
They are of course sister sites, created by the same MIT grad. Neither one has proved satisfactory. Too much work, but in practical terms, I prefer SA, and the higher percentage of non-pros on that site.
There are a lot of ladies that appear on both sites. My experience has been WYP increases the chances of misunderstandings, since you initiate contact with the ladies based on an offer of $$ just to meet for a date, and start communicating. Notwithstanding you stating clearly to them that you don't pay them just to show up to meet, a large percentage of them get upset and irritated immediately, and thus, the likelihood of actually meeting goes to nil. This is true for WYP even though in my opinion, most of ladies are either former SW, or are street walkers in attitude.
This is purely based on my experience, of course. I have not had many successes on SA either, probably due to my inability and refusal to host, but when you do hit on SA, it generally a very nice time with a woman who is not yet jaded, and well worth it. The question is though, is SA worth the monthly fee, plus the real work you must put in to meet anyone, over the long course. In reflecting on my past experiences, I would say no.
I recommend that you not bother with WYP, because, even at the lower price to buy credits, its not worth it, IMO. SA, particularly if you are able to or willing to host, is worth the try.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4783949]This Covid 19 situation has put me in a awful Rut. What's everyone's opinion on SA vs WYP? Which site is better to find a good Utr girl for a decent price? Boy do I miss the good old craigslist days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Longjblues;4784638]The question is though, is SA worth the monthly fee, plus the real work you must put in to meet anyone, over the long course. In reflecting on my past experiences, I would say no.
I recommend that you not bother with WYP, because, even at the lower price to buy credits, its not worth it, IMO. SA, particularly if you are able to or willing to host, is worth the try.[/QUOTE]What do you prefer, vs SA?
I can't host, and that does limit the options. Many of the SA women will go to a hotel; some will host. But usually neither without meeting (for coffee or a drink) first, which is fine with me; I prefer that.
Is there any key words to notice to gauge a girls intent on these sites? For example casual or nsa or "mutually benefical" ? Obviously platonic is a red flag but "looking for someone to spoil me" always gets me cringing heh.
[QUOTE=AcconRed;4785498]Is there any key words to notice to gauge a girls intent on these sites? For example casual or nsa or "mutually benefical" ? Obviously platonic is a red flag but "looking for someone to spoil me" always gets me cringing heh.[/QUOTE]Here's an example of one I got early on, thru my hack.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d563e1c6-e820-41dd-ac15-e69d60d125ee[/URL]
120 hh with DFK and CIP. I posted her before, and I see she's not signed onto the SA site for close to a year. But the key sentence is:
"I'm looking for someone to meet every once in a while to have a little bit of fun with and possibly help one another out from time to time" 😄.
She's a true ho who used to advertise on backpage. But fairly typical of the type of text that the true hos write on SA, based on the 5 others who I also easily inseminated from that site.
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Longjblues;4784638]They are of course sister sites, created by the same MIT grad. Neither one has proved satisfactory. Too much work, but in practical terms, I prefer SA, and the higher percentage of non-pros on that site.
There are a lot of ladies that appear on both sites. My experience has been WYP increases the chances of misunderstandings, since you initiate contact with the ladies based on an offer of $$ just to meet for a date, and start communicating. Notwithstanding you stating clearly to them that you don't pay them just to show up to meet, a large percentage of them get upset and irritated immediately, and thus, the likelihood of actually meeting goes to nil. This is true for WYP even though in my opinion, most of ladies are either former SW, or are street walkers in attitude.
This is purely based on my experience, of course. I have not had many successes on SA either, probably due to my inability and refusal to host, but when you do hit on SA, it generally a very nice time with a woman who is not yet jaded, and well worth it. The question is though, is SA worth the monthly fee, plus the real work you must put in to meet anyone, over the long course. In reflecting on my past experiences, I would say no.
I recommend that you not bother with WYP, because, even at the lower price to buy credits, its not worth it, IMO. SA, particularly if you are able to or willing to host, is worth the try.[/QUOTE]LJB thanks for the feedback. Is there any other site you would recommend now to find some action? Also you need to clear your inbox. Its full and you can not receive any messages.
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4785578]Here's an example of one I got early on, thru my hack.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d563e1c6-e820-41dd-ac15-e69d60d125ee[/URL]
120 hh with DFK and CIP. I posted her before, and I see she's not signed onto the SA site for close to a year. But the key sentence is:
"I'm looking for someone to meet every once in a while to have a little bit of fun with and possibly help one another out from time to time" 😄.
She's a true ho who used to advertise on backpage. But fairly typical of the type of text that the true hos write on SA, based on the 5 others who I also easily inseminated from that site.
Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Also to be honest she is too old to be a sugar baby LOL. Thats a HARD PASS.
I'm going to give it a shot for a month and see what happens. Expecting to be disappointed but hoping not to get jaded with the amount of girls that want a small business loan from a SD heh.
[QUOTE=AcconRed;4785498]Is there any key words to notice to gauge a girls intent on these sites? For example casual or nsa or "mutually benefical" ? Obviously platonic is a red flag but "looking for someone to spoil me" always gets me cringing heh.[/QUOTE]I have found it NOT reliable to just go by the language they use. It goes both ways. Some profiles read like they are dtf, and have very suggestive photos, and they message back "NO SEX. " Others say "platonic" or sound really vague. And are totally dtf. "Mutually beneficial" means different things; there is no way to know without starting a conversation.
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;4785599]Also to be honest she is too old to be a sugar baby LOL. Thats a HARD PASS.[/QUOTE]LOL worth the price, which as a 'hack' product was $0. Scary!
[QUOTE=AcconRed;4785689]I'm going to give it a shot for a month and see what happens. Expecting to be disappointed but hoping not to get jaded with the amount of girls that want a small business loan from a SD heh.[/QUOTE]The issue yo7 may have to deal with in the current mood is this covid shit has many girls freaked out. You may find that they just want online and payment for pics and vids.
You could join now and start collecting contact info and you may find a few open to meeting but don't be too disappointed if no one is willing to meet.
[QUOTE=Joe1223;4785848]The issue yo7 may have to deal with in the current mood is this covid shit has many girls freaked out. You may find that they just want online and payment for pics and vids.
You could join now and start collecting contact info and you may find a few open to meeting but don't be too disappointed if no one is willing to meet.[/QUOTE]I agree, this is not the best time to join. Still too much social distancing. I'd wait and see what happens in the near future. One of my regulars said she's probably ready to meet up next week, coinciding with the first move to reopen businesses in MA. (She has public health training.).
[QUOTE=Joe1223;4785848]The issue yo7 may have to deal with in the current mood is this covid shit has many girls freaked out. You may find that they just want online and payment for pics and vids.
You could join now and start collecting contact info and you may find a few open to meeting but don't be too disappointed if no one is willing to meet.[/QUOTE]Have there been an influx of regular girls trying to make ends meat that due to job loss in service or entertainment industry.
I've been debating of joining WYP and SA again if there has been an influx of new girls looking to make an honest dollar.
Lmao she opening for business with the rest of the state.
See I kind of thought with this virus thing going on and the shutdown girls would be more hard up for cash. And the types of girls to be STG would also not take their personal health very seriously and not care about it. Feel like this should be a feeding frenzy on the usual sites but its a ghost town.
It's not too hard. A few guidelines:
1. Don't talk about transacting on the site. Ie, don't ppm, don't use keywords that you would use on this site.
2. Talk AROUND sex, if you have to. Ie, netflix and chill, mutual benefit, intimacy, etc.
3. If interested, take the conversation off SA as soon as possible. Get a text app or Snapchat. Or Kik. Or FB Messenger (on a throwaway account).
4. Be nice to these girls. We want them to talk to their friends about how awesome it was, and not about the weirdos that ARE on the site. (BTW, it's those weirdos that are paying 500+, being not a weirdo is like a $200 discount).
5. Don't pay anything upfront until you have met them irl. Don't agree to pay for the meet and greet (Ie platonic "date".
6. Even if they're "time wasters" or "gps" don't be an ass and burn that bridge. Thank them for their time, but say it's you, not them, and it's not going to work out.
7. If at the meet up they're not what they advertised, walk away!
8. Don't be negative; negativity is such a turn off and you'll scare any potential dates away.
[QUOTE=GlennDoyle91;4786066]It's not too hard. A few guidelines:
1. Don't talk about transacting on the site. Ie, don't ppm, don't use keywords that you would use on this site.
2. Talk AROUND sex, if you have to. Ie, netflix and chill, mutual benefit, intimacy, etc.
3. If interested, take the conversation off SA as soon as possible. Get a text app or Snapchat. Or Kik. Or FB Messenger (on a throwaway account).
4. Be nice to these girls. We want them to talk to their friends about how awesome it was, and not about the weirdos that ARE on the site. (BTW, it's those weirdos that are paying 500+, being not a weirdo is like a $200 discount).
5. Don't pay anything upfront until you have met them irl. Don't agree to pay for the meet and greet (Ie platonic "date".
6. Even if they're "time wasters" or "gps" don't be an ass and burn that bridge. Thank them for their time, but say it's you, not them, and it's not going to work out.
7. If at the meet up they're not what they advertised, walk away!
8. Don't be negative; negativity is such a turn off and you'll scare any potential dates away.[/QUOTE]This is right on in so many ways! I have had great success on there being polite and positive. The real SBs (non-pros) want to feel like it's a sugar relationship and not just a one time transaction to bang. Do I occasionally find a pro on there and meet her? Sure but I'm trying to get those gems that are out there which takes work and time and probably a bit more cash. None of it is easy and sometimes not fun searching and messaging and weeding out the crap but as I said, they are there if you make the right moves and have patience.
Someone asked if there is an in flux of new girls. I've seen many new faces on there but many want online only which they won't find. They will either delete their account or give in and look for a real sugar arrangement with sex. My bet is most will delete their account. There seems to be a bunch of women on youtube and tiktok and snapchat who are saying they get paid by sugar daddies just to video chat and send pictures. I think it's all bullshit but many of these young women see that and join because they think they can find that. They won't.
[QUOTE=CornPop;4785912]Have there been an influx of regular girls trying to make ends meat that due to job loss in service or entertainment industry.
I've been debating of joining WYP and SA again if there has been an influx of new girls looking to make an honest dollar.[/QUOTE]Yes there's been a big influx, but they are looking for cash for photos, video, etc. They last about 3 days and then delete. I have still not seen a big influx who both really need money AND want to meet in person now. I think we're a week, or 2, away from that. Soon!
Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to give a fair warning to everyone that Kylie4219 on SA is a scam. I started talking to her, everything looked good. She sent me pics even nudes and I was like OK. I asked for her to come visit and the price was reasonable at $$ Profile said she was 18 years old and from Russia. She said she needed 50.00 to come to me because she needed to fill her tank. After a little back and forth, I decided to go for it sent it on Cash app and never herd from her again. Oh well at least it was only 50.00.
No matter how many times we say it, money upfront is always a scam. EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT FAIL. Still, someone has to try it, just in case you know. Glad it was minimal but then again, they never ask for hundreds.
[QUOTE=MovieDude39;4787068]Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to give a fair warning to everyone that Kylie4219 on SA is a scam. I started talking to her, everything looked good. She sent me pics even nudes and I was like OK. I asked for her to come visit and the price was reasonable at $$ Profile said she was 18 years old and from Russia. She said she needed 50.00 to come to me because she needed to fill her tank. After a little back and forth, I decided to go for it sent it on Cash app and never herd from her again. Oh well at least it was only 50.00.[/QUOTE]Never. Never. Never send cash up front prior to a first meet. You WILL lose it. Tell them you'll give them the agreed donation, plus the gas money. Someone who has no other option to get the gas necessary to visit you, and earn a nice allowance, is someone who has no other option to get gas for any other purpose. And just in case that's accurate, it's someone I'd never see in any case; far too desperate. But it's never accurate.
[QUOTE=MovieDude39;4787068]Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to give a fair warning to everyone that Kylie4219 on SA is a scam. I started talking to her, everything looked good. She sent me pics even nudes and I was like OK. I asked for her to come visit and the price was reasonable at $$ Profile said she was 18 years old and from Russia. She said she needed 50.00 to come to me because she needed to fill her tank. After a little back and forth, I decided to go for it sent it on Cash app and never herd from her again. Oh well at least it was only 50.00.[/QUOTE]And this is why scammers exist because of people who actually fall for it. Bro. Seeking has over 1000 chicks on it, you can find someone to fuck without sending someone a deposit, oh yea side note. What planet is she living on where she needs 50.00 to fill her tank when gas is 1. 37 a gallon? Is she driving to Florida to meet you. There's the tell right there.
[QUOTE=MovieDude39;4787068]Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to give a fair warning to everyone that Kylie4219 on SA is a scam. I started talking to her, everything looked good. She sent me pics even nudes and I was like OK. I asked for her to come visit and the price was reasonable at $$ Profile said she was 18 years old and from Russia. She said she needed 50.00 to come to me because she needed to fill her tank. After a little back and forth, I decided to go for it sent it on Cash app and never herd from her again. Oh well at least it was only 50.00.[/QUOTE]I don't k know when you or others will learn. If the girl don't have money to put gas in her car. Then, should be working.
[QUOTE=GlennDoyle91;4786066]It's not too hard. A few guidelines:
1. Don't talk about transacting on the site. Ie, don't ppm, don't use keywords that you would use on this site.
2. Talk AROUND sex, if you have to. Ie, netflix and chill, mutual benefit, intimacy, etc.
3. If interested, take the conversation off SA as soon as possible. Get a text app or Snapchat. Or Kik. Or FB Messenger (on a throwaway account).
4. Be nice to these girls. We want them to talk to their friends about how awesome it was, and not about the weirdos that ARE on the site. (BTW, it's those weirdos that are paying 500+, being not a weirdo is like a $200 discount).
5. Don't pay anything upfront until you have met them irl. Don't agree to pay for the meet and greet (Ie platonic "date".
6. Even if they're "time wasters" or "gps" don't be an ass and burn that bridge. Thank them for their time, but say it's you, not them, and it's not going to work out.
7. If at the meet up they're not what they advertised, walk away!
8. Don't be negative; negativity is such a turn off and you'll scare any potential dates away.[/QUOTE]Cannot emphasize some of these points enough.
Never, never, pay up front. Not ever. Not for gas, babysitter, uber, or whatever. It's always a scam.
Be nice. Treat these woman like you would a real date and keep it positive.
Do not pay for meet & greet. If it goes well and you plan to meet again behind closed doors you may want to CONSIDER giving her babysitter or uber money to show what a good guy you are. But even then only at the end of the meet & greet never in advance.
Do not use keywords that will get you banned when messaging on SA. This problem has been discussed here many times and somehow it's ignored or forgotten. SA scans messages with automated software. Words such as hosting, ppm, pay for play, allowance, incall, outcall, hotel, motel, condom, sex acts (bbbj, daty, fs, cof, you know the list) will get you banned. Take it off the site to text or whatever messaging app as soon as possible.
To avoid wasting time, call an hour before the meet to confirm. Don't get a hotel room, until you're sure about the arrangement.
Negotiating payments. They are always worth what they say their worth; be prepared to walk away. The price I'm comfortable with is $300 for ppm. I feel that any more than that, you're not getting value. I mean, higher amounts allows you to be more attractive to more sugar, but it's like aftermarket parts for anything. To go from stock parts to 90% efficiency, you might have to spend 20% more of what a stock part costs. But to get 91%, you spend something like 200%, to get 92% you spend 1000%. You get the drift.
Food for thought. At $300/3 hours (a decent time for date) it's $100/ hr. At that rate, it's a master craftsman or a phd major in a field that has high demand. Some of them want to be overpaid Walmart greeters. "Talk" and "support," but expect the previous rate. It's mind boggling. But, don't be an ass and make them feel bad. It's hard enough for them to put themselves out there.
[QUOTE=GlennDoyle91;4787528]To avoid wasting time, call an hour before the meet to confirm. Don't get a hotel room, until you're sure about the arrangement.
Negotiating payments. They are always worth what they say their worth; be prepared to walk away. The price I'm comfortable with is $300 for ppm. I feel that any more than that, you're not getting value. I mean, higher amounts allows you to be more attractive to more sugar, but it's like aftermarket parts for anything. To go from stock parts to 90% efficiency, you might have to spend 20% more of what a stock part costs. But to get 91%, you spend something like 200%, to get 92% you spend 1000%. You get the drift.
Food for thought. At $300/3 hours (a decent time for date) it's $100/ hr. At that rate, it's a master craftsman or a phd major in a field that has high demand. Some of them want to be overpaid Walmart greeters. "Talk" and "support," but expect the previous rate. It's mind boggling. But, don't be an ass and make them feel bad. It's hard enough for them to put themselves out there.[/QUOTE]I like the post, but I and some others are cheap or "salt daddies" I suppose.
My opinion may change, but pussy is not as important to me as money so I guess I'm going to get my parts at the junkyard.
My budget for this activity is $150.
Either luck or location in S Florida made this possible.
I once told the baby I found socially, "I value my money more than I value pussy, although you may know a lot of guys with the converse view. ".
I also think bargain hunting is fun.