I don't "ask", I CONVINCE
[QUOTE=Kwab99;4862057]Only posted once here a few yrs ago but long time hobbyist on HX (about to be 12 yrs in September). Definitely appreciate all the info you guys share on here.
My question as someone that has never asked for BB before (and to be honest, I've been strictly oral only every time I've seen a provider) is how do you start that convo? Because one of my biggest fears is if you ask the wrong girl, they may tell everyone on one of the safety clubs and then you're done on that site unless you make a new profile. Do you target newbies or ones that are low level? Do you ask every girl or only certain girls that check the boxes that seem like they'd be up for it?
This year has really been making me think about living life a lot more (even if it's riskier LOL).
Any advice is greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]Back about a year and a half ago, in post #3111 in this thread, I wrote the following advice:
"[I]Having tried many different approaches, the highest percentage of success for me has now become the only one I use. I wait until we're actually face to face, and I ask if she kisses. Her answer is fairly irrelevant to me, but my follow-up after she answers (which seems to come almost as an after thought) is, "Oh. Um, I should mention that I can't do any latex. I'm allergic to latex, and I get a bad reaction. " Her response will dictate my next move.
If she says, "Okay", then that's it and we're going in raw.
If she says, "You mean bareback?" with surprise and / or disapproval I say "Well. Yeah, I guess. " and just wait for her response. Which will determine my next move. "Um. Okay. " means we're going raw. "I don't do that. " means I will probably be leaving at that point.
If she says she has non-latex condoms we can use, I explain that it's not actually the latex *itself* that causes the bad reaction, it's the "chemical lube" they use on all condoms. Her response will guide me from there.
In advance, I always have an unopened 3-pack of NaturaLamb (lambskin) condoms in my pocket. If she's REALLY HOT, and I still want to fuck her after she declines going raw, I hastily explain that I "didn't mean using NO condom", I just have to use these natural ones, but we can't use them for oral, because "they taste like shit". This will almost always result in a BBBJ (at least), and the lambskin ones are not actually TOO bad for fucking.
It's easy for her to decline BB in preliminary text message when she's never even met you, but VERY hard for a prostitute to let you slip out of her net after you're inside her incall, or (even better) she's had to travel to get to you. At that point she can SMELL the money, and she doesn't want to let that walk away. I NEVER pay in advance, so there's no money for her until we come to terms that will accommodate my unfortunate medical condition (tee hee). This approach requires that you are strong enough to walk away from the encounter. She'll easily sniff out a bluff. And they almost never will let that happen. Worst case, assuming she's hot enough, you compromise on BBBJ and fucking with a hunk of sheep intestine wrapped around your dick. It's not as bad as it sounds.
Finally, here are my recent results from the last few months: out of 32 individual BP providers, 18 were BBFS w / CIP and 4 were BBFS no CIP. 6 went for BBBJ, but covered (lambskin) FS. Make of these numbers what you will. Of the flat-out raw-doggers I have repeated with maybe half.".
As I said above, I don't "ask" them to go bareback, I convince them to go bareback. And after the first time, if I repeat I never have to negotiate again. Once, with a smokin' hot black girl, she had a prominently placed condom on the bedside table. I just put my index finger on it and slide it over to the other end of the tabletop while I said, "As you may recall, I can't use these. ". Since then I've fucked her several times, and the subject has never come up again.
When it comes down to getting paid OR watching their next paycheck walk out the door, even the most rigid "no-bareback" prostitutes will cave if you give them a good reason. Saving me from this terrible allergic reaction has always been that good reason.
Call me Dick.