Massage Parlor Reports

Rufus617,

I know a lot of people on here say otherwise.- but groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for.

Some ladies will give the HE to anyone who comes in. But a lot of ladies are selective. They only give the HE to men that they to feel comfortable with. Groping someone, even in this line of work is the fastest way of making them feel uncomfortable.

And if they need an excuse for why they're not going to give the HE, they blame it on the boss.

I invariably have better luck if I don't touch the masseuse at all.

Cheers

[QUOTE=rufus617]TOFTT today. Like last time, quoted .35 for hh. Gave .40 and led into large room with two areas set up with curtains. Only one girl was working so no one was next door. Waited for her to come in before I stripped down, making sure to not be bashful in front of her. Laid face down and she covered me with a large sheet. Ugh. She rubbed over it a little then pushed it down to my legs- promising, I thought.

Proceeded to give a good massage (I'm not an expert... I'm mainly in it for the finish). She teased a little bit, but mostly rubbed my ass. I started rubbing her leg to let her know what I wanted. I moved my hand up her thigh and rubbed her ass a bit. She didn't back away but moved positions after about 30 seconds.

I could tell she was finishing up so I started moving my hand to her crotch and rubbed a little. She pushed my hand away and gave it a little slap (playful). I told her I wanted to flip and she said not now, she had another appt. I told her it would be quick but she insisted massage only.

She stood her ground. I asked why and said "massage only. Boss says so."

Walked out and there was my .05 bill (change) sitting on the table. She said, "for me?" and I said "sure."

She said her name is Nicole and she used to work at Mayspa in Waltham.

I'm pretty confident that extras are never available here. I made it pretty clear I wasn't a threat and she was very clear, even for future visits.

I won't be going back.[/QUOTE]

I was in the mood for a massage today. Yes, I mean it.- for a serious massage. I decided to treat myself to an upscale looking within walking distance from where I live. Price is $80, which today I took as a good sign. If they can afford to charge that, they must be doing something right.

I walked in, and paid the fee to an Asian girl, seriously not more than 25 years old. And very cute. I didn't know if the place had an Asian staff or not, so that was a happy surprise. Then, she showed me my room. I'm not saying the room was stunning or something, but it was the nicest, most comfortable room I've been in for a massage in the Boston area.

After a few minutes, she came in.- yes, the same girl who took my money. I was both happy and a bit worried. All things being equal, its always nice to have a cute girl touching you, but I wasn't sure she'd know what she was doing. Besides her youth, she is very petite.- which is not always a good sign.

It turned out I was wrong. She is an excellent masseuse. I didn't quite "lose myself" like I do with the very best massages, but still, I'd say she was top notch. I'm happy to describe the technique if anyone's interested, but I doubt anyone on this board is.

She spoke English well, though its not her first language. She didn't talk at all, except when I initiated the conversation, which I appreciated.

Near the end, her touches got light and fluttery, so I made my interests known. We negotiated for additional services. We settled on my committing to tip 40, which I thought was more than fair, since I was prepared to leave a tip of 30 just for the excellent massage.

Her technique from there on was somewhat lackluster, which I attribute to lack of experience and/or shyness. (As I mentioned, she's young.) Still, I was very happy. Afterward, she continued to massage, and after her bell rang, she turned it off and continued a little while longer.

In addition to the promised 40, I gave 10 more. So, 130 total. Not that everyone will be expected to give as much, but I thought it was well deserved, given the nice environment and the excellent massage and the fact that she was a very pretty girl.

On the way out, I asked her how long she'd been working there and she said about 2 months. I believe the place itself is legit, her activities weren't approved by management, and she could get in trouble if found out. Besides that, there are the recent concerns about LE.

So, I'm not going to divulge the name of the place or the girl on this board. Board members who seem trustworthy can message me.

I will say that I did some good research on this place beforehand, and I'm confident its never been discussed on this board before. In other words, believe it will be new to you. Because of that, in exchange, I'd appreciate it if you have some information for me about a place/person that is not already publicly discussed on this board.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Gravelpath]I know a lot of people on here say otherwise.- but groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the advice. I'm new to this whole massage thing....

[QUOTE] groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for.
[/QUOTE]If you "grope" her in a way that is obnoxious, such as trying to stick a finger in her ass as your first move, then you're not going to see a very positive reception. But playing around a little bit (e.g., smiling and lightly touching her ass in a playful way, etc.) you setting the telegraphing that your are there for more than a massage -- this often means the difference between receiving a happy [i]ending[/i] and receiving a sensual massage.

This is true in just about every AMP I have ever visited, not just those in the Boston area. The exception would be in Providence where you don't *need* to do this, and if she's not initiating playful groping on her own, then you've probably got a dead fish on your hands.

But everywhere else, playful groping early in the process is the way to break the ice. In same cases, you actually need to put her hand on your cock for her to get the picture, but I have not encountered that in a long time. To be clear, however, I have [i][b]never[/i][/b] encountered a situation where initiating a little playful groping has led to no happy ending. Rather, as explained above, the opposite has been true. So I would not advise a [i]"no groping"[/i] strategy, but just have some common sense about it.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions (and you know what they opinions are like) but the are some fundamental facts about the "massage thing." We were all new once, yet some of us have invested in an expensive education (at a rate of $100/hr) which I encourage less experienced members to take advantage of that.

I went an saw Angel earlier in the week. I chickened out on only giving her $80, but I did limit it to $90 -- paid upfront in single batch (i.e., not $60+$30 but the entire $90 folded).

Got a great reaction overall, including two-pops, the usual facial, unlimited body access including her holding my finger and doing her fingerbang thing (which I don't dig at all, but whatever).

So bottomline, it was as good and enthusiastic an appointment as ever. Angel hasn't been anywhere near the worst offender when it comes to fee-creep. But I did feel I need to practice what I preach. I did and worked out fine. Enough said.

[QUOTE=WebDog]But everywhere else, playful groping early in the process is the way to break the ice.[/QUOTE]You may say "everywhere else" but it sounds to me like you're just going to the rub and tug joints, where you'll generally get a HE no matter what.

But even at those places, I've found that I get a much better quality of service by keeping my hands to myself.

Think about it. Once you start grabbing her ass, she just wants to get out of the room and finish up as fast possible. No matter how wonderful and sexy you think you are, she doesn't want to be touched by you. Sure, at a certain kind of place she may still be willing to put up with it and will still give you a HE, so that she can get the big tip. But she's going to be hating you while she does it. On the other hand, if you respect her as a person, instead of treating her like a sex worker, she'll like you more and it will show in the quality of her work.

(Obviously, as an exception, some women will happily let you touch them for an extra fee. But that's something to be negotiated beforehand.)

Just read some past posts. You say, "I have never encountered a situation where initiating a little playful groping has led to no happy ending," but it is clear that a lot of members on here have. Including the one that started this conversation. If you want, you can assume that they just happened to visit masseuses that would never give a HE. I believe that if they had known how to behave, they might actually have gotten what they were looking for.

As I mentioned before, there are plenty of other ways to telegraph your interest and to break the ice, that will leave the girl feeling more comfortable. But because most men have the urge to grope, they're going to do it anyway, then try to justify it as "the way to break the ice." Hey, I have the urge to reach out and grab some ass, too. But some self-control goes a long way.

[QUOTE=Gravelpath]Rufus617,

Some ladies will give the HE to anyone who comes in. But a lot of ladies are selective. They only give the HE to men that they to feel comfortable with. Groping someone, even in this line of work is the fastest way of making them feel uncomfortable.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I would tend to agree with this observation. Much as a surprise as it may be, I think there are still many places offering massage that are not jack shacks. So with a little patience, politeness and coaxing, it is possible to get extras.

[QUOTE=WebDog]But playing around a little bit (e.g., smiling and lightly touching her ass in a playful way, etc.) you setting the telegraphing that your are there for more than a massage -- this often means the difference between receiving a happy [i]ending[/i] and receiving a sensual massage.[/QUOTE]Generally, I "telegraph" my intentions by asking for some inner thigh massage and then shooting them a view of the fruit basket. If I get a little light play, then I just encourage it.

Call me paranoid, but I never get led into any negotiations that remotely involve the "this for that" discussion. So far, this has served me well.

[QUOTE=Gravelpath]if they had known how to behave, they might actuall have gotten what they are looking for. As I mentioned before, there are plenty of other ways to telegraph your interest and to break the ice, that will leave the girl feeling more comfortable.[/QUOTE]why don't you enlighten us then.

[QUOTE=WebDog]why don't you enlighten us then.[/QUOTE]Why don't you read some past posts? They've been discussed before.

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[QUOTE=Gravelpath]Why don't you read some past posts? They've been discussed before.[/QUOTE]You crack me up, Gravelpath. On this thread and others, you have gone out of your way to initiate arguments with me and others. Consistently you start these arguments with "you're wrong..." And with such a heavy hand at the start, readers expect some kind of solid nugget from you in the follow-through. Yet you leave us hanging every time.

This forum is not intended simply as an exchange of competing opinions. It is meant as a place to share actual experience, of which readers can form their own opinions. But one would hope there is a kernel of reality there which can be helpful to fellow mongerers.

This back-and-forth (at least most recently) began with your asinine argument that providers do not take tips for granted.

You then offered your opinion that [i]"groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for."[/i]

Anyone who has been at the AMP thing for awhile knows this couldn't be further from the truth. The surest way to get blown off (not in the good way) is to smile politely and never initiate anything with her. Or waiting until the end and pointing at your dick -- all the moves of a rank amateur.

Sure we've all been their at one time, but if you're going to be handing out advice, why not do so from that basis of knowledge and experience.

But the part that really cracks me up is the assertion that my experience is somehow invalid as it is limited to "rub-and-tug" spots. And your experience is based on where, the Spa at Canyon Ranch??? (laughs out loud)

Your sanctimonious bullshit about "knowing how to act" and treating women right -- all you have done with your comments is reveal your lack of experience.

I post here because I learned a lot from this board. I avoided a lot of expense and personal risk by following the advice given from here over the years -- and where I got into trouble was by ignoring the words of senior members on this board, or otherwise not knowing who to believe at the time.

Today I feel an obligation to reciprocate those contributions, partly because there are still areas and venues where I am still newbie, and more so because I believe in encouraging an economy of peer-reviewed information. Plus, many of the Seniors I relied upon when first joined have moved on (with some notable exceptions) and I do what I can to fill their shoes.

I don't pretend to know what [i]your[/i] motivations are, but they do not seem to be anything different than someone who likes to hear himself talk. It does the rest of the members a disservice to engage in personal arguments here, as no one wants read that.

So with that said, I am ending my comments here and adding you to my ignore list. Post what you want, but if it is directed at me, I won't be responding. For those who PM'd me that I should just ignore Gravelpath -- I agree and swear this will be my last response.

Webdog, listen to his advice- stop treating the sex workers as if they are sex workers. ;)

Oh, wait, maybe they'll think your a moron. Cancel that thought.

[QUOTE=Jeep 95]Webdog, listen to his advice- stop treating the sex workers as if they are sex workers. ;)

Oh, wait, maybe they'll think your a moron. Cancel that thought.[/QUOTE]

The fact is I have had success both ways. Oftentimes the situation dictates. Just be cool about it, polite, and respectful.

I leave you hanging? What the fuck? This "back-and-forth" started when I gave good advice. I said groping isn't a good idea. I wasn't telling someone was wrong and I wasn't picking a fight. The advice wasn't even directed at you. It was directed at someone who didn't get any play, and was wondering why.

So, you didn't like the advice. Well, sorry. Go on groping ladies. I honestly don't care. But instead you decided to jump in and tell everyone that what I had to say was just a worthless opinion, whereas you, the almighty webdog have the "facts," and have never turned away from a handjob, no, not once. And now you say that this board wasn't meant for "opinions" even though that's pretty much all you ever post.

All the same, thanks for telling me what the forum was meant for. Obviously, if a post doesn't meet your criteria, it's no good.

If the members want me to go away, in invite them to just tell me. Take a vote. I'll happily not try out any new places, and will happily not share any new info.

Because, take a look at all my posts. A lot of good information is in them. Visits to new places. When have you posted about a visit to a new AMP? Seriously, take a look at your sanctimonious shit. It's all about how you're such an expert. But you don't share any info, except for the fact that you cruise around chelsea not getting any. Oh, and the occasional visit to Angel and Amy, a place everyone knows about already. Thanks for the using the board the way it was meant to be.

But go on, keep posting your drive. Just don't make your arguments by misconstruing my posts. I *never* said don't initiate anything. I said don't initiate anything "by groping. " can you read? Or do you just go so offended when someone disagrees with you, that you go blind?

What really gets my goat is you resort to the ad hominem. You call me a rank amateur. Well, if the number of meaningful posts means anything, I have a whole lot more experience than you. All the same, let's all bow down before webdog. He's posted 800 absolutely useless posts. Woo-baby. Who likes to hear himself talk?

I'm glad you're ignoring me. Maybe now I can offer some meaningful advice to people when I have some to give, without you having to feel compelled to jump in and call me wrong.

[QUOTE=WebDog]You crack me up, Gravelpath. On this thread and others, you have gone out of your way to initiate arguments with me and others. Consistently you start these arguments with "you're wrong. " And with such a heavy hand at the start, readers expect some kind of solid nugget from you in the follow-through. Yet you leave us hanging every time.

This forum is not intended simply as an exchange of competing opinions. It is meant as a place to share actual experience, of which readers can form their own opinions. But one would hope there is a kernel of reality there which can be helpful to fellow mongerers.

This back-and-forth (at least most recently) began with your asinine argument that providers do not take tips for granted.

You then offered your opinion that [I]"groping the masseuse, in my opinion, is the surest way NOT to get the ending you're looking for. "[/I]

Anyone who has been at the AMP thing for awhile knows this couldn't be further from the truth. The surest way to get blown off (not in the good way) is to smile politely and never initiate anything with her. Or waiting until the end and pointing at your dick.- all the moves of a rank amateur.

Sure we've all been their at one time, but if you're going to be handing out advice, why not do so from that basis of knowledge and experience.

But the part that really cracks me up is the assertion that my experience is somehow invalid as it is limited to "rub-and-tug" spots. And your experience is based on where, the Spa at Canyon Ranch? (laughs out loud)

Your sanctimonious bullshit about "knowing how to act" and treating women right.- all you have done with your comments is reveal your lack of experience.

I post here because I learned a lot from this board. I avoided a lot of expense and personal risk by following the advice given from here over the years.- and where I got into trouble was by ignoring the words of senior members on this board, or otherwise not knowing who to believe at the time.

Today I feel an obligation to reciprocate those contributions, partly because there are still areas and venues where I am still newbie, and more so because I believe in encouraging an economy of peer-reviewed information. Plus, many of the Seniors I relied upon when first joined have moved on (with some notable exceptions) and I do what I can to fill their shoes.

I don't pretend to know what [I]your[/I] motivations are, but they do not seem to be anything different than someone who likes to hear himself talk. It does the rest of the members a disservice to engage in personal arguments here, as no one wants read that.

So with that said, I am ending my comments here and adding you to my ignore list. Post what you want, but if it is directed at me, I won't be responding. For those who PM'd me that I should just ignore Gravelpath.- I agree and swear this will be my last response. [/QUOTE]