Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=LightYagami;4080622]You don't read your own links and your use of every definition is just as moronic. Again a girlfriend that gives a covered blow job is a hooker. Trying to pretend that is the same is some hooker jujitsu that some are dumb enough to repeat like the stupid empty parrots that they are.

GFE.

Like the others said, GFE=Girlfriend experience. In some situations, it also means that the prostitute / escort is willing to perform some services without condoms, akabarebacked, usually blowjobs (BBBJ).

[URL]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gfe[/URL][/QUOTE]

It's funny how you call me "moronic" for citing evidence to support my argument, when the citation you provided very clearly says "In some situations." In any event, all the links I provided emphasize the emotional aspect of the encounter. They don't mention "BBBJ." And, as I said, there are girls who give BBBJ, have no emotional connection, and don't really like kissing. Try reading more closely next time.

You say a girlfriend who gives a covered blowjob is a hooker. Guess what? So is the hooker who you bareback. What's your point?

[QUOTE=BTBear;4080634]The fact that there is no clear definition of GFE just proves that it is a very YMMV kind of appointment. I totally agree that there has to be some emotional and physical attraction and interaction. Now whether the lady really feels that she likes you and likes having sex with you can and is in most cases an act. I have an provider friend who when she talks with me about appointments often says, "And the Oscar goes to. " because she is acting when she is with a customer. I have often heard from ladies that they have dual personalities: Sally Nympho and Martha Maiden. The nympho is who she is when fucking for money and the maiden is who she is with her SO.

GFE and PSE are just two of the confusing things said in reviews and ads. I have wondered what ladies are really saying when they say "Open Minded?" Does that mean anal? Fetishes? BBFS? Who knows? That is why honest reviews are important for us the consumers.

The definitions of GFE, PSE and Open Minded will always be somewhat vague.[/QUOTE]Here here.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4081263]It's funny how you call me "moronic" for citing evidence to support my argument, when the citation you provided very clearly says "In some situations." In any event, all the links I provided emphasize the emotional aspect of the encounter. They don't mention "BBBJ." And, as I said, there are girls who give BBBJ, have no emotional connection, and don't really like kissing. Try reading more closely next time.

You say a girlfriend who gives a covered blowjob is a hooker. Guess what? So is the hooker who you bareback. What's your point?[/QUOTE]GFE for some is emotional. GFE for others is the BB aspect of the interaction. Personally, if it confuses others who read my reviews, I won't use the term anymore and won't answer GFE related questions of a provider. Problem solved LOL.

[QUOTE=BTBear;4080634]The fact that there is no clear definition of GFE just proves that it is a very YMMV kind of appointment. I totally agree that there has to be some emotional and physical attraction and interaction. Now whether the lady really feels that she likes you and likes having sex with you can and is in most cases an act. I have an provider friend who when she talks with me about appointments often says, "And the Oscar goes to. " because she is acting when she is with a customer. I have often heard from ladies that they have dual personalities: Sally Nympho and Martha Maiden. The nympho is who she is when fucking for money and the maiden is who she is with her SO.

GFE and PSE are just two of the confusing things said in reviews and ads. I have wondered what ladies are really saying when they say "Open Minded?" Does that mean anal? Fetishes? BBFS? Who knows? That is why honest reviews are important for us the consumers.

The definitions of GFE, PSE and Open Minded will always be somewhat vague.[/QUOTE]Fwiw I think of GFE as including LFK, DFK, DATY and BBBJ but not necessarily BBFS (I have used a condom with a girlfriend before to avoid pregnancy). Open minded I figure means BBFS, anal and all manner of fetishes unless otherwise excluded. PSE I equate with a lot of fake vocalizations and COF, CIM, etc. , which are not really my thing, but I do like realistic vocalizations, and got to say there are some regular UTRs that I can't honestly say whether they're faking or really enjoying it, because either the sex or their acting is that good. But, to your point, there is no real definition of these things. It wouldn't be a bad use of this forum for someone with proper authority, or "the crowd," to come up with generally accepted definitions. Even after all these years, BTW, I find it humorous and psychologically intriguing the number of providers who will do anything but kiss, because they reserve that for "boyfriends. " The emotional complexity of all this -- for both sides -- is actually pretty damn interesting from a strictly academic standpoint.

[QUOTE=DNut;4074410]Does Saffron still go au natural when it comes to body hair? I remember old reports that likes to keep natural unshaven hair in her armpits, Bush, legs, etc. Still true?[/QUOTE]Was wondering if anyone still had the videos of her that were posted? Went looking for them a few weeks ago and looks like they've been deleted.

[QUOTE=GMichael;4081328]Was wondering if anyone still had the videos of her that were posted? Went looking for them a few weeks ago and looks like they've been deleted.[/QUOTE]Several people have mentioned the "scary" approach to her apartment. What is the problem. Structural problems? Rats? Thugs?

It is just kind of "run down". No thugs no bugs or rats, no LE. Saffron is a delight. Highly recommended.

[QUOTE=Golden3;4081383]Several people have mentioned the "scary" approach to her apartment. What is the problem. Structural problems? Rats? Thugs?[/QUOTE]

The neighborhood is decent, just a bit older and tired. There are some grand old homes in the area. Her building feels just like many college apts do, relaxed, a bit run down, but not scary. At least not to me.

As for Saffron, she is, as are all escorts, YMMV. During my second (and last) visit, we were busy, nearing completion and just shy of the hour mark, when she asked if I wanted to continue and that it would cost me more if I wanted to finish. That just hit me wrong. She shouldn't have done that right when I was about to finish, very much taking advantage of my pre-dick-ament. LOL. I, of course, said yes! But that also cost her my repeat business. She texted me several times after that but I didn't respond.

That said, many have had a great time with her. She is very cool and quite sexy. Despite that, I decided to go elsewhere thereafter.

[QUOTE=Golden3;4081383]Several people have mentioned the "scary" approach to her apartment. What is the problem. Structural problems? Rats? Thugs?[/QUOTE]

Why does it take what seems like hours and hours for my posts to be 'approved' by admin?

Is that the way it is for everybody? Am I on some double secret def con 5 probation shit of sorts?

If you catch admin when they're on the shitter or nappin', it takes like 8 hrs or so. My 'ISO' threads are useless to me a day later.

That is all.

[blue]Your white knighitng, starting fights and discouraging guys from posting about so chicks is what go you here, don't blame us.

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[QUOTE=Nky2000;4081404]It is just kind of "run down". No thugs no bugs or rats, no LE. Saffron is a delight. Highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Run down apt.

But the HAIRY BUSHES under the arms were more of a turn off.

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You're shitting me right? You live in a state with medical marijuana and on the border of one with recreational marijuana and you're asking for it on a pussy forum?

Put the Cheetos down and get in the car and go buy some.

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[QUOTE=TheGardener1;4085755]Run down apt.

But the HAIRY BUSHES under the arms were more of a turn off.[/QUOTE]Hair under arm and legs total turnoff for me. I don't care how good a provider is I can't bring myself to visit. Just me. I know she has very good reviews but not temped here. Just old fashion.

There is a more detailed answer back a few pages but the short answer is that the original video poster took them down because of some sort of dispute.

[QUOTE=GMichael;4081328]Was wondering if anyone still had the videos of her that were posted? Went looking for them a few weeks ago and looks like they've been deleted.[/QUOTE]

[quote=hillbillybob;4086139]hair under arm and legs total turnoff for me. I don't care how good a provider is i can't bring myself to visit. Just me. I know she has very good reviews but not temped here. Just old fashion.[/quote]I feel exactly the same way!

Hi, forgive if these might be the wrong place for this. I originally wasn't going to post this, but something happened today that really got under my skin. Every now and then I'll hop on [URL]Eros.com[/URL] for my birthday or special occasion. Well, I had a really crappy birthday, had a bad week at work, didn't get to celebrate it, plus my power was out for 2 days during the ice store we had last month.

I see someone who I've been eying for a while and decide to reach of them them. Got a reply back, asking for references. I send them as well mention my senior statuse on here as well my statuse on another site. She starts making fun of my for being on here and the other site. I ask about how early she makes appointments cause I work 3rd shift and don't have a lot of downtime. She replies back with something to the degree of, "You must think you're so special to ask that. " & "You think I'm going to let you break my rules so I can accommodate you?" WTF?

After that I never hear back from her, that I found her Twitter account and see that she posts email replies from people that she doesn't like in her account, "Look what this idiot wrote me. ".

Now, I'll admit, there were some dumb things people did say in those emails, but I wouldn't be posting that stuff for the world to see. Thankfully, she didn't post my emails on her account.

Then over the weekend, I saw someone else I had seen ads in th past who passes through every now and then. Her ad says to call, don't text. So, besides having a bad birthday and having to work Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve & New Years Day, I thought I'd reward myself and try again. I call, when was a Google Voice account. The recording says that replies will be returned the next day. Left a message, but when I pressed a button to send the message, I get disconnected. Next day, no reply back. So on my lunch break today, I give her a call back, but says the line is disconnected?! I check number, it's correct, call again, still says it's disconnected? Tried from a different number, it rings? So I guess she blocked my number. Get voice mail again, leave a message, asking how long would she be in town, cause of the holiday and if she visiting Dayton? As I get into the elevator at work, she calls me back? After "hello, can you hear me now", when I get off the elevator, all my co-workers are in the hallway. I tell her that I'm at work and can't really talk. She replies with, "If you want me to do to Dayton, it's (fill in the blank, plus extra)".

Trying to be casual with others nearby, I say, "Mmm Hmm, I'll will have to get back to you on that. ".

She replies with, "Look, don't be wasting my time if you can't agree with that amount. " and hangs up the phone.

When I was able to get away from my co-workers, I called her back, to work once again get a recording saying the line has been disconnected?

Ok, I've met a few ladies on Eros before who were visiting from out of town, one of them multiple times, but what the hell is going on with those two? I personally don't think I did anything wrong?

Have any of you had a similar experience and do you believe I did anything wrong?