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[QUOTE=Shawtren;7217190]Well, Rogue, I think you have learned a valuable lesson. NEVER EVER give a deposit! You would get more use out of the money by wiping your ass with it
But, this is just MY opinion.
Play safe!
Shaw.[/QUOTE]Thanks Shaw, still learning, that's why I joined this forum.
[QUOTE=VirCof;7217108]Thanks for the review, do you know any Asian in a hotel or apartment in Livonia area? The one that was Novi, it moved close to Wixom area.[/QUOTE]Sorry man.
Not sure of Novi area.
Too far from me.
Never tried any AMPs there.
[QUOTE=Rogue59;7217903]Thanks Shaw, still learning, that's why I joined this forum.[/QUOTE]Never give a deposit ever.
[QUOTE=Rogue59;7217900]I posted 2 threads.
What threads are you referencing? When I find a provider, I try to find reviews, I do a reverse face search, I try to research the phone # and I do an internet search, not sure what more there is out there.[/QUOTE]Try visiting women already reviewed by other mongers as "safe" and get your feet wet. I mean dick wet. LOL.
[QUOTE=SR7D1;7218498]Try visiting women already reviewed by other mongers as "safe" and get your feet wet. I mean dick wet. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the wisdom. Funny, I "interviewed" one provider and she said this is probably the first thing a client should do.
[QUOTE=Vollan78;7217515]It is best to know the type of providers post on those sites. Skipthegames will generally be filled with junkies. Prices are going to be on the lower side. Listcrawler will have a lot of those too, but it will also have ads for visiting Latinas and others that are run by agencies. Listcrawler does have an advantage of being able to post and see reviews though the Escort Babylon links on the pages. Take those with a grain of salt as the providers can have them removed.
Tryst started as an alternative to Eros and focused on independent women. You get the wide variety of prices and providers. You may see a junkie posting for $100 an hour, or may see a high end girl on there quoting $1400.
Eros shows more quality ads, but has been overrun by agency girls. Almost all that are on there are visiting Latinas, Brazilians, or European. The cost on there is more high end side $400+ per hour.
You have to decide what you are looking for and what you are willing to spend. What is good for one of us might not be for another..[/QUOTE]Thanks, some really good info here from what sounds like a seasoned veteran I'm kind of partial to tryst based on my previous experiences above, I just need to be more diligent in vetting them.
[QUOTE=Rogue59;7217900]I posted 2 threads.
What threads are you referencing? When I find a provider, I try to find reviews, I do a reverse face search, I try to research the phone # and I do an internet search, not sure what more there is out there.[/QUOTE]You didn't post any threads. You made posts. Threads are the strings of posts in these forums.
There is a lot more to than your few minutes of internet searchs.
I will say it again. Read the f at #$ing threads. Read the forums. Read dozens upon dozens of pages of posts here to get a feel for this fun, but dangerous hobby. Reading some ads, some reverse photo and phone searches isn't enough. I've been at this on and off for over 40 years and while we have more info today, it's probably less safe than back then.
Based on what you've written, you're liable to get taken, hopefully the worst would be for a few bucks.
Could anybody please let me know any white girls to try? I have contact some from LC and adult search and most of them were fake or ghosts or asks deposit. Thanks in advance!
We all know there are fake ads on these sites but I think this is the first one I've seen with them using somebody who's actually from this area. I doubt she started posting ads so she can make a little money. I haven't contacted yet to see if it's actually her but this is just a warning that this might not be who you're looking at. Don't want anybody to get catfished when they see those pics.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/latin/available-now--birmingham-girl/710663000001[/URL]
Anyone got a report on this one? The price is right and on the east side.
Good reviews on LC but I don't really trust those.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/183712452[/URL]
[QUOTE=Rogue59;7216811]Hello fellow mongers. Just wanted to make a post and get some feed back on my experiences so far regarding this hobby even though I'm new to it. I have found this website to be very informative and appreciate all the reviews posted. So I wanted to breakdown results of my experiences so far, I have contacted providers as follows with the following results:
Tryst- I contacted 9 providers: 4 responded / and services rendered without issue, 4 did not respond to emails or texts, 1 respronded (AR- I responded to a client question asking about her on this ewbsite)) and made an appointment, paid the deposit, and when I showed up she demanded the balance in full paid via electronic transfer before meeting- I told her I had plenty of cash- she rejected that, I told her after meeting you can watch me do the transfer immediately- she rejected that, so I told her I am not paying in full without meeting you and she said good bye and gave me some attitude about wasting her time, well she wasted my time as well. I believe this to be a common scam and I did not recognize some of the red flags, like no reviews available, she was too good looking for the low fee she advertised, and most online sites highly recommend not paying a deposit for incall services, and a few others- well, lesson learned- don't approach providers that require a deposit- problem is, many of them do.[/QUOTE]I'll go against the grain and say higher end providers pretty much always require a deposit and they're legit. At least the few I've been with. Obviously they're expensive but I find the experience they provide worth it to me.
I'd never pay a deposit for a lower end provider, and even ones that seem higher end you've got to do lots of vetting beforehand. Some signs I've found to satisfy my suspicions are not advertising their OF on the listing, having an active social media presence, following their listing long enough to see new pictures that all look good (and like the same person), doesn't seem TGTBT (price is as high as you'd expect). Basically if you're interested want a high end experience expect to pay a deposit, but that's worth it from my experiences.
[QUOTE=OneBoyy;7219500]I'll go against the grain and say higher end providers pretty much always require a deposit and they're legit. At least the few I've been with. Obviously they're expensive but I find the experience they provide worth it to me.
I'd never pay a deposit for a lower end provider, and even ones that seem higher end you've got to do lots of vetting beforehand. Some signs I've found to satisfy my suspicions are not advertising their OF on the listing, having an active social media presence, following their listing long enough to see new pictures that all look good (and like the same person), doesn't seem TGTBT (price is as high as you'd expect). Basically if you're interested want a high end experience expect to pay a deposit, but that's worth it from my experiences.[/QUOTE]That's how I feel about screening, but not deposits. For me, the problem with paying a deposit even with well-reviewed, higher-end providers is that sometimes something comes up and I have to cancel, and I won't get my money back. Also, in my experience, there are plenty of high-end providers who don't ask for a deposit, or sometimes only for outcall. For example, I've never been asked for a deposit to see any of the hot Brazilian touring girls. As for screening, you will virtually always have to give up some personal info with higher-end providers. Often, just giving them a LinkedIn link will do the trick. I'm okay with doing that; after all, it's a public profile and anyone who wants to look at it can look at it, and anyone who wants to falsely accuse me of something after looking at my LinkedIn can do that.
Here is another thought on 'Deposits'.
Imagine you are a hooker. You have two possible dates for 3 oclock. One guy who just called and asked to visit and is willing to pay your 250 hourly rate. Or the Other guy you phished a $100 deposit from last week, who will only net you the remaining $150 for that same one hour slot. Who are you going to spread your legs for?
Money talks at the time of service. Period.
Don't be a Simp and pay ahead (aka a deposit). Not even for a regular. Make that Especially NOT for a regular; it NEVER works out in your favor.
Lessons learned the hard way.
[QUOTE=TipTopTip;7219351]We all know there are fake ads on these sites but I think this is the first one I've seen with them using somebody who's actually from this area. I doubt she started posting ads so she can make a little money. I haven't contacted yet to see if it's actually her but this is just a warning that this might not be who you're looking at. Don't want anybody to get catfished when they see those pics.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/latin/available-now--birmingham-girl/710663000001[/URL][/QUOTE]I wrote the model on onlyfans, she said she never posted and asked me to let her know if the ad pops back up.
Anyone have any info?
[QUOTE=ChrisDetroitMi;7202819]Anyone know of a couple for play? I know there were some posts awhile ago, I think one of them was a cuckold.
Any info to share DM is open.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NeilYoung999;7220130]I wrote the model on onlyfans, she said she never posted and asked me to let her know if the ad pops back up.[/QUOTE]I didn't even think to hit her up and ask. I was just going to grill the fake ad provider.
Seriously these girls even the favorably reviewed ones have a problem with stench down there. I think I'm retiring from FS and sticking to BBJ only.
Share your favorite BBJ providers. Preferably with CIM.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;7183992]Macomb County tests for the big three that can be cured by antibiotics. Hep A,B, C is a separate clinic. Herpes, warts and HIV are viral and are an open question.
I use a TEN test panel at [URL=https://www.jdoqocy.com/click-7901271-15733880]Stdcheck.com[/URL]. I commend you for testing more than once per year.[/QUOTE]Unfortunely 2 of those (Herpes and HIV) still don't have a cure, from what I hear a lot of straight guys who see hookers for bareback regualely are looking into dox or prep.
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/sti/hcp/doxy-pep/index.html[/URL]
That's a good one bro.
[QUOTE=HeeJunk;7217885]Yes you go front back enter who says yo what can't spell who that when why? Ok agreed say what when?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BerolLoz;7220422]Unfortunely 2 of those (Herpes and HIV) still don't have a cure, from what I hear a lot of straight guys who see hookers for bareback regualely are looking into dox or prep.
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/sti/hcp/doxy-pep/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]You can't pay me to bareback them.
[QUOTE=BerolLoz;7220422]Unfortunely 2 of those (Herpes and HIV) still don't have a cure, from what I hear a lot of straight guys who see hookers for bareback regualely are looking into dox or prep.
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/sti/hcp/doxy-pep/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Call me old fashioned, but I don't want to be in cahoots with anyone who's dabbling in activities where they're taking prep, etc.
Not too long ago, a lady who many have seen started sending messages out that she tested positive for HIV.
Herpes 2, the kind you get on your genitals, from my reading can be asymptomatic, or blister up and eventually pop as they heal. I'd think if you were to contract it, you would know. It's to the point now, some will not test for it unless you have an occurring outbreak.
Used to work Roseville area a lot. Wondering if she's still around.
[QUOTE=Gyxser70;7220989]Call me old fashioned, but I don't want to be in cahoots with anyone who's dabbling in activities where they're taking prep, etc.
Not too long ago, a lady who many have seen started sending messages out that she tested positive for HIV.
Herpes 2, the kind you get on your genitals, from my reading can be asymptomatic, or blister up and eventually pop as they heal. I'd think if you were to contract it, you would know. It's to the point now, some will not test for it unless you have an occurring outbreak.[/QUOTE]There are so many girls out there with HIV who know they have it. They are known for bare back and could care less. Their attitude is I'm going to give it to as many tricks as I can.
There are a lot with syphilis and herps Some have more than one infection especially the ones with marks and missing teeth.
I've had a couple dous with Monica Sugar and Virginia Vixen. They are a pair of travelling Russians who come to town from time to time. I've left at least one prior review of them together and separately. They require light screening the first time and are on the pricier end however. Monica has the best fake tits I've ever come across (pun intended).
Stay safe,
J.
[QUOTE=SanityIsRealit;7217355]Looking to finally exit the hobby and go out on a high note. Anyone have any recommendations for a great duo?[/QUOTE]
Does anyone think this is weird? [URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/new-girl-new-arrived231-201-59/393493682059[/URL] Asian hotel girls with a GRAND RAPIDS number? Usually I see those ads with out of state numbers. Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=Questar999;7221776]Does anyone think this is weird? [URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/new-girl-new-arrived231-201-59/393493682059[/URL] Asian hotel girls with a GRAND RAPIDS number? Usually I see those ads with out of state numbers. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]I just saw an ad that had a 248 number here: [URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/kanas--hot-asian--treasure--24/093910546014[/URL] with a very similar ad structure. I always think these posts are as TGTBT but I would love to hear if someone else has bit the bullet and taken a chance to see if these "agencies" are truly legit like the ones in vegas are.
I learned the hard way and got blackmailed in the worst way. Life is basically ruined right now.
[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;7221982]I just saw an ad that had a 248 number here: [URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/kanas--hot-asian--treasure--24/093910546014[/URL] with a very similar ad structure. I always think these posts are as TGTBT but I would love to hear if someone else has bit the bullet and taken a chance to see if these "agencies" are truly legit like the ones in vegas are.[/QUOTE]Haven't tried that one, but generally they are reliable (e. G. Not a rob). You just never know what you're going to get. It's never the girls in the picture. The age range can be 20's-50's. Some rush, some don't. Some upsell. If you're a regular then the communication channels can open up where they share updates or get more accommodating. In short, it's YMMV. Not like those out west, or at least I haven't experienced one that was transparent / consistent. (Would be interested).
[QUOTE=Significant05;7222154]Haven't tried that one, but generally they are reliable (e. G. Not a rob). You just never know what you're going to get. It's never the girls in the picture. The age range can be 20's-50's. Some rush, some don't. Some upsell. If you're a regular then the communication channels can open up where they share updates or get more accommodating. In short, it's YMMV. Not like those out west, or at least I haven't experienced one that was transparent / consistent. (Would be interested).[/QUOTE]I have visited a Kana group's offering in the past. Provider was attractive, maybe low 30's in age and was nicely accommodating. Location was a hotel in Troy. I did pay for the VIP package ($250) which may have contributed to her friendliness.
[QUOTE=DeeMayne;7221997]I learned the hard way and got blackmailed in the worst way. Life is basically ruined right now.[/QUOTE]No How did that happen.
[QUOTE=DeeMayne;7221997]I learned the hard way and got blackmailed in the worst way. Life is basically ruined right now.[/QUOTE]How is your life basically ruined right now? If you can't keep them blocked then get a new number.
That's right, you never know what you are going to get, I've visited this place twice in past two months and I didn't report because I didn't take the service, the first time the girl was not my type and I walked out, the second time, last week, I asked for the new girl because the one there wasn't my type, she told me to come back in the afternoon but I didn't.
I will go again next week to see if the new girl is hot, in the past this place was a good source of hot Asian girls.
[QUOTE=Significant05;7222154]Haven't tried that one, but generally they are reliable (e. G. Not a rob). You just never know what you're going to get. It's never the girls in the picture. The age range can be 20's-50's. Some rush, some don't. Some upsell. If you're a regular then the communication channels can open up where they share updates or get more accommodating. In short, it's YMMV. Not like those out west, or at least I haven't experienced one that was transparent / consistent. (Would be interested).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;7221982]I just saw an ad that had a 248 number here: [URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/kanas--hot-asian--treasure--24/093910546014[/URL] with a very similar ad structure. I always think these posts are as TGTBT but I would love to hear if someone else has bit the bullet and taken a chance to see if these "agencies" are truly legit like the ones in vegas are.[/QUOTE]They are generally real (in my exp). Its a national company, the same number I called when on vacation in MS worked here, asked if anything in Troy, they hooked me up. They rotate locations. Almost always fun, bit expensive, but worth the time if you want an Asian.
[QUOTE=FloridaExpat;7222203]I have visited a Kana group's offering in the past. Provider was attractive, maybe low 30's in age and was nicely accommodating. Location was a hotel in Troy. I did pay for the VIP package ($250) which may have contributed to her friendliness.[/QUOTE]Good to hear out was worth it. I was always curious about Kana group, or similar, but they never picked up for me so I moved on to other 'agencies'. Would appreciate some consistency so may try them again.
[QUOTE=Formula382;7221190]There are so many girls out there with HIV who know they have it. They are known for bare back and could care less. Their attitude is I'm going to give it to as many tricks as I can.
There are a lot with syphilis and herps Some have more than one infection especially the ones with marks and missing teeth.[/QUOTE]Well, I definitely have never done anything raw and I sure as hell have never been desperate enough to see a provider who's in need of an intervention.
Be safe.
Got a text after 9 pm last night. Snow that was in Roseville a while ago asked, Wya, Wyd, Deposit for outcall, last 4 digits ending 5256. Responded just a few minutes ago, "I'm out of the game, told her guys been asking about you. Lose my number. " All I got. I do have full # saved. Knew it was her, but could never hook up some time ago anyways. And yes fellas, NO DEPOSIT Period.
Found link: https://saginaw.myescort.network/female-escorts/details/0c25f7af-b011-42f5-90f0-b1e3a648412c
A7 D.
Tried out one of those Asian gals from STG ads. Comms were great, safe motel in MH, 140 for the half. Vicky was nice spoke decent English in her 30's small figure nice C cups too! Took direction well gave a great BBBJ then covered me up for the main event. I would definitely recommend this one.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/kanas--hot-asian--treasure--24/763719167378[/URL]
[QUOTE=Significant05;7222881]Good to hear out was worth it. I was always curious about Kana group, or similar, but they never picked up for me so I moved on to other 'agencies'. Would appreciate some consistency so may try them again.[/QUOTE]Just a suggestion, but you might consider texting them rather than calling (I assume that is what you meant by "they never picked up" That is how I contacted them when I did. Texting can be easier on the receiver side since they don't have to be immediately available and can easily get back to you when they have a moment.
Thanks for posting.
I was going to see her one last time before she disappeared but it didn't work out.
Honestly though. Other than bein tiny.
There isn't much great. Always rushing the second you start regardless of time booked. "did ya cum yet, did ya cum yet".
Not sure how she managed to offer anal. She would complain if ya didn't go super slow in just her pussy.
Never mind pretending she didn't know she was on her period.
However, I did see her twice.
If you're looking for a specific thing. Sometimes you overlook the faults I guess.
Wonder if she's in Saginaw though. It's posted there but says Troy / Roseville in ad.
[QUOTE=AllSevenDays;7223285]Got a text after 9 pm last night. Snow that was in Roseville a while ago asked, Wya, Wyd, Deposit for outcall, last 4 digits ending 5256. Responded just a few minutes ago, "I'm out of the game, told her guys been asking about you. Lose my number. " All I got. I do have full # saved. Knew it was her, but could never hook up some time ago anyways. And yes fellas, NO DEPOSIT Period.
Found link: https://saginaw.myescort.network/female-escorts/details/0c25f7af-b011-42f5-90f0-b1e3a648412c
A7 D.[/QUOTE]
I saw her a year or so ago. My Clemens I believe. Oral only. Her attitude was great, and service was as well. Safe area. Only caution is the pics make her a little more worn than what I remember her being. I'm guessing drugs are not doing her any favors.
[QUOTE=JoeyRamone;7219383]Anyone got a report on this one? The price is right and on the east side.
Good reviews on LC but I don't really trust those.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/183712452[/URL][/QUOTE]