Printable View
I'm of the same thought.
I do not negotiate. I ask them if they have thought about an allowance and I either agree to their number or go dark. If they ask me? I give them my number and they can take it or leave it.
Part of the thrill is that these girls are not pro's,. Or are not yet (fully) pro. There is a non-transactional feel to it all that is necessary for me. If I wanted transactions I would get only escorts.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2657659]ArcherSterling those are some creative compensation packages you put together.[/QUOTE]
Helps them feel less like they are selling themselves if they get valuable "gifts". I also like to tell them that the whole concept of spoiling by defnitiion is receiving something you would never buy for yourself. The young ones really relate to that concept.
Also, if you do need cash undetected, buy something using a debit card, then return it. They can't put the money back in your bank account. Costco offered me a cash refund on a refrigerator! SB funds for my next outing!
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2657691][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/[/URL]
This is why we need to stay together in our negotiations. If not then the market will get driven up unless we collectively give resistance to an potentially increasing market.[/QUOTE]The blogs and social media are A TWitter with Bull S**t about salt daddies and Ho Daddies. The market will drive prices -it always does. If there are enough guys paying moderate and up that is the way it will go. Be careful when you start thinking that $500 / pop is a good deal. The girls are posting money shots of them lying in a bed of cash. Don't be one of those guys. OTOH, if you are loaded and can afford $50 K / year on up, then you will have your pick of all the girls.
I've followed the blog for SA -kind of interesting. The SBs' views are skewed towards the high levels of allowance and give some insight into their mentality. Of course, they all want $50 K / year, and we want $3000 / year.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2658086]The blogs and social media are A TWitter with Bull S**t about salt daddies and Ho Daddies. The market will drive prices -it always does. If there are enough guys paying moderate and up that is the way it will go. Be careful when you start thinking that $500 / pop is a good deal. The girls are posting money shots of them lying in a bed of cash. Don't be one of those guys. OTOH, if you are loaded and can afford $50 K / year on up, then you will have your pick of all the girls.
I've followed the blog for SA -kind of interesting. The SBs' views are skewed towards the high levels of allowance and give some insight into their mentality. Of course, they all want $50 K / year, and we want $3000 / year.[/QUOTE]
Well said. I haven't met any pussy worth 500 a pop. My record is 400 and did that a couple of time, then I was done.
I can't recall if it was you, but that ****** site was an eye opener as far as the "rinsing" term is used against the guys. Ever since then I've been much more cognizant of getting rinsed by women. I'm analyzing my lineup if I'm blindly getting rinsed. One thing I pride myself on is not getting taken advantage of.
If the question about time is because of other committments, I have no problem when it comes up as long as the committment is valid.
So for example, if I'm trying to set up an afternoon date, and the pot says something like, let's meet, but I have class at 3:30 pm, I'm ok with that.
What I hate though is when a pot at the m&g talks about how much time I'm expecting her to spend with me. In that context, we're not scheduling a date, and so I generally get irritated when the question comes up.
Of course there are exceptions. So for example, if a pot were to say that she only had a few hours here and there because she's married, that to me is completely different (and ok in my book) from a pot saying something like, "how much time do you expect to spend with me when we see each other?
When the question is situational because of other life committments, I'm ok with it. When its generalized and asked at the m&g, it makes me feel like I just called a service and paid my $80 membership fee for the privilege of negotiating with an escort.
[QUOTE=RubberyMan;2657581]The "How long?" question is not straightforward. IMHO. For example, a MILF may well be able to snatch a couple of hours in the middle of the day without a problem, but an overnighter might have her wanting enough for a sitter. Someone who has a husband may have similar problems, and so, planning her time is an issue. Those were two examples, but I'm sure there are many other situations where our time expectations are something she needs to know, quite apart from the transactional.[/QUOTE]
I am in LA. There are some girls who will go for $ - they are few and I havenlt actually done any of them yet. 150 is doable. I think 200 is competitive. I can't speak for HWG but my guess is: (a) he has game, (b) he dedicates time to find girls new to game who meet his specific needs, (c) he is single and can take the girls home so he can in effect say he is dating them and the $ is a bonus. Not many of us can meet all these requirements. Also, at the volume he does, he has had the opportunity to refine his game. Allow me to digress a bit. I have been hobbying < 6 months. My experience with SD sites is <2 months. However, I find that having fucked about 5 women from SD sites and maintaining a POT list of 6-8 - I am already much better at handling them and figuring them out. I have had 2 women really have buyer's remorse. Letting me fuck all their holes for very little money. In each case, I have been able to talk them back in to the FC without promising anything more. MY biggest barrier right now is time. I have little time. I find myself having to choose between M&Gs with hot POTs vs a sure thing FC with an exisitng baby. I have two thicker latina girls who just want to worship my cock without any expectation of sugar. Both are 18. I think if you think of time, money, looks as three variables. You can fix two of them and have to adjust the third until you get some.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/efbe34ad/view?conversation-sent[/URL]
I figured I may as well try SA out since I can no longer find quality at a decent price in other avenues. I have met a few off SA so far. Half I paid nothing to meet, and the other half we met for drinks for the first time. Guys in Richmond should pm me so we can share notes. I have noticed many of the younger and newer/better looking girls are asking for 3 to 5 a date, and seemingly getting it unfortunately.
Anyway, on to this one. She is about 10 years older than claimed. Not ugly but has a very bad attitude. I would guess a former BP girl switched to SA. After meeting to see if we could arrange something, it was clear it would be nothing but a lame transaction with a ok looking asian with a very poor attitude. Never discussed price really because I wasn't that interested after meeting. That is the better thing about SA, you can meet in public to see if you would like them, rather than walking into a dirty hotel room with the door cracked not knowing what you are in for.
"Please take no offense, but I am only interested in meeting Caucasian, between the age of 40 and up. ".
[QUOTE=ILikeHotWomen;2659130][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/efbe34ad/view?conversation-sent[/URL]
I figured I may as well try SA out since I can no longer find quality at a decent price in other avenues. I have met a few off SA so far. Half I paid nothing to meet, and the other half we met for drinks for the first time. Guys in Richmond should pm me so we can share notes. I have noticed many of the younger and newer/better looking girls are asking for 3 to 5 a date, and seemingly getting it unfortunately.
Anyway, on to this one. She is about 10 years older than claimed. Not ugly but has a very bad attitude. I would guess a former BP girl switched to SA. After meeting to see if we could arrange something, it was clear it would be nothing but a lame transaction with a ok looking asian with a very poor attitude. Never discussed price really because I wasn't that interested after meeting. That is the better thing about SA, you can meet in public to see if you would like them, rather than walking into a dirty hotel room with the door cracked not knowing what you are in for.[/QUOTE]
I think the reason why specific info isn't posted to the rva site is because its kind of become the defacto national board. So for example, I am interested in what the general rates might be in the northwestern us, but couldn't care less about a profile of a girl there, because I would probably never contact her. The rate information would be interesting to the extent it might help me look for certain areas around me that share characteristics of regions where allowance expectations are lower.
The rva board has become a place where general tactics and info is shared. Other local boards have great info on specific profiles that I've found useful from time to time.
I think that's generally why specific info on individual pot profiles is more often found in other local boards, but not here.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2657679]I'm not from this area, but I always have wondered why posting links to some of these women that might be scammers or just to stay away from doesn't exist here? I have noticed the Cincy area thread does do that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VoxDei;2658868]... I have had 2 women really have buyer's remorse. Letting me fuck all their holes for very little money. In each case, I have been able to talk them back in to the FC without promising anything more...[/QUOTE]Who is / was remorseful and why. You or the 2 women?
"talk them back" - does this mean you enjoyed them once for very little money and were able to do it again?!
Inquiring minds want to understand completely and accurately!
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2658533]Well said. I haven't met any pussy worth 500 a pop. My record is 400 and did that a couple of time, then I was done.
I can't recall if it was you, but that ****** site was an eye opener as far as the "rinsing" term is used against the guys. Ever since then I've been much more cognizant of getting rinsed by women. I'm analyzing my lineup if I'm blindly getting rinsed. One thing I pride myself on is not getting taken advantage of.[/QUOTE]If yes what keywords / category do I use to get to the relevant posts? Going through the SB part of tumble relevant to us is proving difficult! I am not interested is reading about their boasts or general SB stuff.
[QUOTE=ILikeHotWomen;2659130][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/efbe34ad/view?conversation-sent[/URL]
I figured I may as well try SA out since I can no longer find quality at a decent price in other avenues. I have met a few off SA so far. Half I paid nothing to meet, and the other half we met for drinks for the first time. Guys in Richmond should pm me so we can share notes. I have noticed many of the younger and newer/better looking girls are asking for 3 to 5 a date, and seemingly getting it unfortunately.
Anyway, on to this one. She is about 10 years older than claimed. Not ugly but has a very bad attitude. I would guess a former BP girl switched to SA. After meeting to see if we could arrange something, it was clear it would be nothing but a lame transaction with a ok looking asian with a very poor attitude. Never discussed price really because I wasn't that interested after meeting. That is the better thing about SA, you can meet in public to see if you would like them, rather than walking into a dirty hotel room with the door cracked not knowing what you are in for.[/QUOTE]Yeah I saw her about two years ago. Back then she went by Mercydes and drove a Mercedes. She is a total *****. Only after your money. I think she is a pro.
Very bad attitude and super super high maintenance.
Anyone using a service for reverse lookup of phone numbers that they recommend? I was using spokeo but they kept charging me more for what I already paid for. I would like something that reverse searches emails and phone numbers, and names if possible.
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2657146]
Also, I rarely compensate them in all cash. My $700 overnight in NYC was happy to take $400 in cash and a $300 spa gift card I won in a charity auction (for which I paid $200). So out of pocket cost was only $600. The Showcase Showdown Prize package approach with a retail value of $_ _ _ carries a lot of weight in terms of making it feel less transactional for them. [/QUOTE]This. Guys need to stop playing the "I pay $100 per date" line and try to find other ways to be creative in compensating your babies.
When you tell a girl you will pay her $100 to fuck her for a couple hours, first thing that comes to her mind is 'shit, I am a hooker'. That doesn't sound too well with non pros and the truly first timer SBs.
I bought a $250 watch for an 18 yr baby for $120 online and it was delivered to her in a nice box with the sticker price of $250. She was thrilled. I have bought $100 giftcards to restaurans, clothing stores, bookstores etc for around $80 or less. I've bought perfurmes, brand name hand bags, etc for half of the retail price and they are more than happy with their gifts. Sometimes I give them cash (in an envelop) and sometimes I buy them gifts.
No matter if your budget is $100, $200, or whatever you should always be able to find ways to keep your out of your pocket cost within you budget. Take her out to a nice dinner and have a drink or two for around $100, then bring her back to your place and fuck her for a few hours than give her a $100 gift to one of her favorite stores when you drop her and she will THANK you.
[QUOTE=ILikeHotWomen;2659130][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/efbe34ad/view?conversation-sent[/URL]
I figured I may as well try SA out since I can no longer find quality at a decent price in other avenues. I have met a few off SA so far. Half I paid nothing to meet, and the other half we met for drinks for the first time. Guys in Richmond should pm me so we can share notes. I have noticed many of the younger and newer/better looking girls are asking for 3 to 5 a date, and seemingly getting it unfortunately.
Anyway, on to this one. She is about 10 years older than claimed. Not ugly but has a very bad attitude. I would guess a former BP girl switched to SA. After meeting to see if we could arrange something, it was clear it would be nothing but a lame transaction with a ok looking asian with a very poor attitude. Never discussed price really because I wasn't that interested after meeting. That is the better thing about SA, you can meet in public to see if you would like them, rather than walking into a dirty hotel room with the door cracked not knowing what you are in for.[/QUOTE]I met her, unfortunately. Went to her house, fucked her, stayed the night, and got up early in the morning to get to work in the DC area. This was my first encounter on SA and I was looking for Asian cuisine, because it's rare to find on SA.
She was pretty pathetic in bed, shook her fat ass in my face like I would get excited by that, and talked like a cheap porno actress. She lives with a roommate, but tries to hide the fact LOL (what tipped me off was when I heard a toilet flushing somewhere but neither of us was in the bathroom at the time). She is actually quite lonely and a little sad.