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[QUOTE=SDliving;5149144]Not to be negative, but I've gotten 60 from both the ladies there for BBBJ and daty. They start with 100, I refuse so they drop to 80, then finally agree on 60. Any AMP I go to I refuse to pay more than 40 for HE.
I only mention this because it would be great if we could all standardize what we're willing to pay so everyone knows an acceptable rate for the services offered, and don't get overcharged.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that standardizing.
Hollywood 40th.
Just a stop in to check it out, nice lady slender and friendly, massage is as important as any extras and as we all know extras depend on YMMV and how many times you have visited at some places. Some are just straight up get to it and some are not. She was smiling and pleasant throughout the duration.
So she provided a reasonably good massage, wasnt to keen on the hand roaming at first, she started the teasing face down, went for the handy on the flip and no negotiation I was hoping for a little more and gave her the gestures, got a no. , waved her off the handy. She was still friendly and got my full time, reasonably clean here. She was wearing some black leather shorts black leggings and loose top. Touch otc below was ok but no more.
Someone else came in the store a co worker or boss while I was here and a little noisy then, asked for tip on the way out I don't like, I always tip but it depends on attitude too.
Gw you know where.
So I have hit this place on and off for a while now since when wendy and mia were here, if you treat these girls well they will really treat you very well. Amy gives a great massage and was slow to go full on but once it happened its never a miss and when I'm not in the mood she is, HJ is no issue, she will give you your full hour and is not greedy, I am sure she is late 40's and more slender.
Sometimes there will be 3 girls here and sometimes not, another girl here currently is lisa she always has a smile a little thicker in the middle early to mid 40's I am sure, always clean and friendly, not as hard of a massage as amy but always friendly and happy, you will have to get a few visits for more than the hand effort but its possible, amy shared info about me and the first time I seen lisa it was full on no issues.
They have a shower here all you have to do is ask, no charge and never have been charged, I have used it several times before and after activities. Place is always clean inside and smells clean. All the sheets always get changed they are doing it before I leave the room. Parking is never an issue. Its not a great area of portland but my vehicle has never been bothered.
Always always your mileage will vary from place to place.
Be nice don't expect and be clean and tip appropiately.
I will have a couple more reviews in the next few days, hope this helps a few of you out in some way.
[QUOTE=SDliving;5149144]Not to be negative, but I've gotten 60 from both the ladies there for BBBJ and daty. They start with 100, I refuse so they drop to 80, then finally agree on 60. Any AMP I go to I refuse to pay more than 40 for HE.
I only mention this because it would be great if we could all standardize what we're willing to pay so everyone knows an acceptable rate for the services offered, and don't get overcharged.[/QUOTE]Most have a pretty standard 20-40-60-80-100. I am not into haggling too much but would be nice BBBJ for. 6 I think you would be hard pressed to find a lady that will enjoy it for. 6 meaning they will not put effort in but heck I might try that today at EZ if I end up going. I never get asked how much. Just happened and then I decided the top for BBBJ then another HJ was. 8.
[QUOTE=SDliving;5149144]Not to be negative, but I've gotten 60 from both the ladies there for BBBJ and daty. They start with 100, I refuse so they drop to 80, then finally agree on 60. Any AMP I go to I refuse to pay more than 40 for HE.
I only mention this because it would be great if we could all standardize what we're willing to pay so everyone knows an acceptable rate for the services offered, and don't get overcharged.[/QUOTE]40- HE w / roaming.
50- as above but her topless / nude.
60- BBBJ.
70- BBBJ + DATY.
80- BBBJCIM.
90- FS.
Something like that?
[QUOTE=Byron414;5149534]Good luck with that standardizing.[/QUOTE]Actually, if we settled on a local norm someone who can translate our preferred menu into Chinese could put it in a form easy for us all to print out on a "business card". Then, instead of haggling, we just hand the girl the card and let her pick which amount she wants to earn. After seeing multiple mongers using these cards in a short span of time, very quickly they'd all realize the customers have established a fixed bar and it's just up to them how much they're willing to earn.
Anything good in the Wellness by pro caliber in Vancouver?
[QUOTE=Byron414;5149534]Good luck with that standardizing.[/QUOTE]It starts with informing people like you that are overpaying.
I went to GW a couple weeks ago. A slightly older, tiny lady met me at the door and directed me to a room. I opted for an hour. The massage was very good, she worked through several knotted up muscles and really had me relaxed. This is uncommon so I expected the flip to be blah. It was not! One important part to me, was she didn't ask for the tip up front. Actually didn't ask at all. She started with a covered BJ, moved to her on top, then laid back to let me finish. She cleaned us up and gave a nice foot massage while I recovered.
I'm not sure if she was the Amee discussed on here before, but I had such a great massage I had to go back later in the week. I asked for her when I arrived and she was available, so another wonderful massage that loosened more knotted up areas. This was followed up with a similar flip, BJ, her on top, laid back, and finishing me with an uncovered HJ and prostate stimulation. The whole experience was so good, I was shaking during and after.
[QUOTE=SDliving;5150717]It starts with informing people like you that are overpaying.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that.
[QUOTE=SDliving;5150717]It starts with informing people like you that are overpaying.[/QUOTE]I have faith that you can get all these girls from all these shops to follow your universal plan.
[QUOTE=Phantxtc;5150445]40- HE w / roaming.
50- as above but her topless / nude.
60- BBBJ.
70- BBBJ + DATY.
80- BBBJCIM.
90- FS.
Something like that?[/QUOTE]I have no doubt all the women will welcome this progressive scale and fall to their knees to thank you.
[QUOTE=Phantxtc;5150445]40- HE w / roaming.
50- as above but her topless / nude.
60- BBBJ.
70- BBBJ + DATY.
80- BBBJCIM.
90- FS.
Something like that?[/QUOTE]Keep us posted how your pay scale works out for the girls. I am very sincere and intrigued by how this concept is received and streamlined to all parlors eliminating the need to barter.
[QUOTE=MuscleThick;5150599]Anything good in the Wellness by pro caliber in Vancouver?[/QUOTE]Went there when they first opened. Never wen tback. But all these places are YMMV. Depending on how you are viewed by "them". It's really close to me. If you hear anything different. Let me know via PM.
Went to my favorite spot many know Eazy a few days ago. Did not see the girl who usually does my massage. Paid for the hour but did not get my 10 in change. Paid. 8 1 hr was. 7.
Might have been an honest mistake. I know to bring exactly. 7 next time.
The lady I know came in and took over. There was a young lady, possibly new. She seemed to switch when the extras came. She did the same to other fellas as ladies were alternating clients. Let me know they were easing the lady in.
Massage was best yet and the flip even better. Got a clear view and her ass was tight oh so tempted to pop a finger in but did not.
Overall was going to take the 10 out of the other lady's tip but my lady was there so. 65 for mutual mouth enjoyment. She said told me as I left I was her favorite. Asked why it was so long since I been there. Want to try and get a home massage call. LOL.
Only bad part was the 10 but mistakes are made.
Anybody tried the Zen on Hallsss?
[QUOTE=Phantxtc;5150445]40- HE w / roaming.
50- as above but her topless / nude.
60- BBBJ.
70- BBBJ + DATY.
80- BBBJCIM.
90- FS.
Something like that?[/QUOTE]90 for FS. I can see them eagerly ripping their panties off and spreading their legs.
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[QUOTE=SDliving;5150717]It starts with informing people like you that are overpaying.[/QUOTE]I call bullshit, some of you are just cheap fuckers, and wonder why you get the no, and others get the yes. Never overpay, but some of us view certain things to be worth more than others. A good BBBJ is anywhere from 60-80 for me. But I usually don't get them asking me how much, unless they new to the shops I goto. Haggling ruins it for me.
EZ out west. Lucy. Paid for hour. Massage was a pathetic run down. Unenthusiastic BBBJ for 80. She asked for 100. I said 80. Tried to cut time short. Insisted on her finishing massage. She forced Lulu to come in and finish my massage, and she was seemingly a much better masseuse.
Sandy. Cindy. Sexier woman than average. Good, hard massage. Plenty of teasing. HJ finish for 40. Got her top up. When bottoms came down, she asked "how much you tip? I asked her if she goes all the way, she said no. So I said nothing more. This interaction made me lose interest and she had to work extra hard. She tried to cut me 20 minutes short on the hour after the finish. I told her to finish the massage. She tried again at 15 minutes early. I told her what time I entered the room. Tried again 10 minutes early. I told her again. She went out, conversed with someone, then came back in to actually finish the allotted time I paid for and was seemingly intentionally rough on my neck because she was irritated I kept her honest.
At this point, I'm over this hobby. Some of why'all must be letting these women get away with this shit. There's no joy in it anymore. Almost impossible to find a memorable experience these days.
Got Lucy again. OK massage, after flip. Starts pointing to certain body parts. It was clear that FS was not on the menu, just about everything else was. Started with HE, added face sitting, but it wasn't working for me. Went back to just HE while I imagined I was with someone else. Gave 50, started to walk to restroom when she called me back to room, insisted on 60. Big turn off. Based on other reports, not sure if I will return. Definitely not seeing Lucy again.
Had heard good things about the place out on Sandy and decided to give it a try. It was very busy on a wet Tuesday afternoon. I was looking forward to see what Mandy and Kylie looked like. An older came out from a room and greeted me. Not cute or attractive so I'm assuming she was someone else. I saw another lady peak her head out and I'm guessing she wasn't either one of them either. She told me to wait for a few minutes in the front and called someone on the phone to bring in another provider. The lady that greeted me then led me to a room in back and told me it would be 20 minutes. She was right and in 20 minutes in walks Cindy. She was probably around 30 and cute enough. A very good massage and some fun teasing and a nice finish. It's quite a drive for me so I don't think I'll be back.
What's a lot closer is the place North of 26 on Cornell. I had stopped in when they first opened and nothing enticed me enough to stay. Based on another tip here I decided to give it another try. It was good enough that I'll probably go back.
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;5132903]Stopped by recently, met Mandy (pretty), and kylie, also attractive. Kylie gave me an excellent quality massage, including walking on back. Got to see some gumdrops, would not remove bottoms. Nice personality, left happy, would return.[/QUOTE]
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Stopped by to have a lookie. 2 girls there, one was a bit too chunky for me the other jess thin and good looking and they both flashed their knockers at me in the foyer. Jess she was pretty aggressive about getting me in the room. I would have split if she wasn't so damn good looking. She did the massage routine for a few and I asked for FS, she said no and she proceed to upsell to fully remove her shreds, I said no. So we finished with a HE. She's one of the better looking girls I've had in these shops.
Any info on 135th ish and division?
I've come up with a translation that should work per the idea previously described. I'll test it out and see whether doubters are justified or may find themselves eventually benefiting from the results.
[QUOTE=Jacko0;5151983]Stopped by to have a lookie. 2 girls there, one was a bit too chunky for me the other jess thin and good looking and they both flashed their knockers at me in the foyer. Jess she was pretty aggressive about getting me in the room. I would have split if she wasn't so damn good looking. She did the massage routine for a few and I asked for FS, she said no and she proceed to upsell to fully remove her shreds, I said no. So we finished with a HE. She's one of the better looking girls I've had in these shops.[/QUOTE]She hit me for 140 to drop the threads for HJ, uh nooooooo.
[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;5152419]She hit me for 140 to drop the threads for HJ, uh nooooooo.[/QUOTE]Sdliving has the answer to all our money problems if you scroll down the thread a little bit. I can't wait till he sets it in motion. Based on his plan, the girls would go topless on HE for $50. How cool is that!!
For a HJ happy ending. This was on stark near 120th. She was really nice. About all I can say.
Always on the quest to find a younger white girl working at these places. Such a rarity. Even hard to find normally.
Stay safe out there.
The girls at the AMPs should be considered front line workers and given the chineese flu vacine shot first. Come on. We all care.
Best to everyone.
[QUOTE=JaySteeze;5152251]Any info on 135th ish and division?[/QUOTE]It was pretty good before the virus have not been since all reopened.
Visited here twice recently. Also about a month ago, but all different crew now. Met Tina, then Aimee (say Eye-Mee) on the recent visits. Both attractive, over 30. Both gave good quality massages, standard ending after flip. No way their bottoms were coming off though. Can't blame a guy for trying. On to the next.
[QUOTE=Swim88;5151300]EZ out west. Lucy. Paid for hour. Massage was a pathetic run down. Unenthusiastic BBBJ for 80. She asked for 100. I said 80. Tried to cut time short. Insisted on her finishing massage. She forced Lulu to come in and finish my massage, and she was seemingly a much better masseuse.
[/QUOTE]Same experience with one of the girls. Can't remember if it was Lucy exactly, just remember it started with an L and she was quite. Unattractive.
BBBJ was super weak. Started BBBJ for about 5 seconds then stopped and tried to do HJ for a while. Told her to get back on it. She kept doing that, and told her to go back every time. Got about 2 minutes of BJ at most. Took 10 off tip.
[QUOTE=Swim88;5151300]EZ out west. Lucy. Paid for hour. Massage was a pathetic run down. Unenthusiastic BBBJ for 80. She asked for 100. I said 80. Tried to cut time short. Insisted on her finishing massage. She forced Lulu to come in and finish my massage, and she was seemingly a much better masseuse.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;5151324]Got Lucy again. OK massage, after flip. Starts pointing to certain body parts. It was clear that FS was not on the menu, just about everything else was. Started with HE, added face sitting, but it wasn't working for me. Went back to just HE while I imagined I was with someone else. Gave 50, started to walk to restroom when she called me back to room, insisted on 60. Big turn off. Based on other reports, not sure if I will return. Definitely not seeing Lucy again.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SnAppleMgfm;5153195]Same experience with one of the girls. Can't remember if it was Lucy exactly, just remember it started with an L and she was quite. Unattractive.
BBBJ was super weak. Started BBBJ for about 5 seconds then stopped and tried to do HJ for a while. Told her to get back on it. She kept doing that, and told her to go back every time. Got about 2 minutes of BJ at most. Took 10 off tip.[/QUOTE]For my dollars, shitty service overrides a good menu. Until things improve, I'm taking my money elsewhere.
[QUOTE=SnAppleMgfm;5153195]Same experience with one of the girls. Can't remember if it was Lucy exactly, just remember it started with an L and she was quite. Unattractive.
BBBJ was super weak. Started BBBJ for about 5 seconds then stopped and tried to do HJ for a while. Told her to get back on it. She kept doing that, and told her to go back every time. Got about 2 minutes of BJ at most. Took 10 off tip.[/QUOTE]Thats lucy, if she is the only one avail I leave, gave her a try ONCE never again.
Did a drop in to see how things are looking, seems anna is gone she was great don't know where she ended up at. So upon walking in there was 2 attractive ladies one in a skirt and one in a short dress. Both are slender and attractive with a pleasant attitude. I'm thinking oh yes, she said her name is yuki I did not get the name of the other girl this trip. Went for the table shower and hour massage 90. She was thourough and not shy about it. Of course some teasing too and a good scrubbing.
The the massage part was actually pretty good, she is friendly and has been at this a bit has her routine down as well. English is pretty good but she is a little stand offish. Got to the flip and was not a rush hurry up jack hammer HJ activity and was nice. Inquired for more activities and maybe after a few visits there may be more offerings and then maybe not.
No interuptions, roaming was moderate, skimpy under the dress.
As usual promptly greeted and always clean here.
[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;5154074]Did a drop in to see how things are looking, seems anna is gone she was great don't know where she ended up at. So upon walking in there was 2 attractive ladies one in a skirt and one in a short dress. Both are slender and attractive with a pleasant attitude. I'm thinking oh yes, she said her name is yuki I did not get the name of the other girl this trip. Went for the table shower and hour massage 90. She was thourough and not shy about it. Of course some teasing too and a good scrubbing.
The the massage part was actually pretty good, she is friendly and has been at this a bit has her routine down as well. English is pretty good but she is a little stand offish. Got to the flip and was not a rush hurry up jack hammer HJ activity and was nice. Inquired for more activities and maybe after a few visits there may be more offerings and then maybe not.
No interuptions, roaming was moderate, skimpy under the dress.
As usual promptly greeted and always clean here.[/QUOTE]Was Anna the one with nice tits?
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;5153513]For my dollars, shitty service overrides a good menu. Until things improve, I'm taking my money elsewhere.[/QUOTE]With some reports being close to each other I'm thinking the place got flooded with mongers so service went shitty from the increased number of customers. Feel the same may happen to Lucky with all the recent attention.
[QUOTE=Abkbk;5154372]With some reports being close to each other I'm thinking the place got flooded with mongers so service went shitty from the increased number of customers. Feel the same may happen to Lucky with all the recent attention.[/QUOTE]
Yes and it can happen, but if the sponges sitting in the shadows on the forums would contribute instead of just running to a place on a new tip it will not make a location as poplar all the sudden. I have had direct questions from individuals in my messages from some whom have been here up to 5 years without a single contribution. and some with just questions of info on the forums.
the purpose of a forum is to share information, i am all over the pdx area at any time and not afraid to drop in randomly to see how the situation looks and not afraid to walk out either , try it guys share what you find or see.
A lot of this in any of these massage places is how you treat these girls its a game for them to get your money and a game for us to get a home run, it happens a lot more than you guys think.
There are many places with more options some not even listed on rubmxps as well.
Yes its frustrating to spend cash and no fun if thats what your looking for its happened to all of us at one time or another , more reviews coming.
[QUOTE=MuscleThick;5154323]Was Anna the one with nice tits?[/QUOTE]Yes indeed and the red lipstick, full range of activities with me anyway.
[QUOTE=Abkbk;5154372]With some reports being close to each other I'm thinking the place got flooded with mongers so service went shitty from the increased number of customers. Feel the same may happen to Lucky with all the recent attention.[/QUOTE]I'm 2 for 2 at Lucky. Two visits, two times having my pole ridden for all it's worth. Would call that great service as opposed to shitty, but that's just me.
If you haven't experienced Amy at GW, you're out of luck. After dumping a load into Lisa for about the 8th time, she let me know that Amy (over a dozen loads into her) is no longer there and that it's just Lisa and the owner now. The owner doesn't give more than a handy.
[QUOTE=MeeLikeeAsians;5154922]If you haven't experienced Amy at GW, you're out of luck. After dumping a load into Lisa for about the 8th time, she let me know that Amy (over a dozen loads into her) is no longer there and that it's just Lisa and the owner now. The owner doesn't give more than a handy.[/QUOTE]Yeah I went there recently and I think I got the owner, very little English and only offered handy. Wouldn't even show anything, but she was very flirty at the start with some touching but that was it.