Philly Sugar

I have been in a Sugar relationship for over a year with the most amazing woman I have ever met! A true sex machine!! Friendly, beautiful and intelligent. The one we are all searching for. She is selective and has a very limited space for a new daddy that I have offered to help fill. Trust me, I am constantly looking and doing meet and greets and know the frustration of finding a great one out there. So. Here's the deal. I am looking for another such lovely baby that I can meet from a trusted source as well. So, if you have such a lovely to introduce me to, I will provide the necessary contact and reference for you to meet this amazing Sugar. Kind of an Amazing Sugar Swap. So. If this is you, PM me and we can swap info, contacts and pictures.

This is legitimate, and I look forward to providing my Sugar with a new Daddy (or two). Let's help each other. And please don't just write me asking for a hook up. This is only for those who have a similar amazing Sugar to share!

I was texting with this lady. She wanted to speak on the phone or do a video call. So I called her. (No video) She's Russian. Wants 600 ppm. Says she's beautiful. (Yeah, ok, I'll be the judge of that.).

She wanted a pic from me and said she'd send me one of her. She sent me the one from the site. (the one I uploaded) Wanted to meet at the hotel.

My conclusions are: 1. This lady is a pro. 2. She likely doesn't look like her pics. 3. Too expensive and she insisted on condoms. I'll pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/84e2922c-ec69-424d-bf51-cca973a99b9d[/URL]

[QUOTE=HolySheite;6961614]I have been in a Sugar relationship for over a year with the most amazing woman I have ever met! A true sex machine!! Friendly, beautiful and intelligent. The one we are all searching for. She is selective and has a very limited space for a new daddy that I have offered to help fill. Trust me, I am constantly looking and doing meet and greets and know the frustration of finding a great one out there. So. Here's the deal. I am looking for another such lovely baby that I can meet from a trusted source as well. So, if you have such a lovely to introduce me to, I will provide the necessary contact and reference for you to meet this amazing Sugar. Kind of an Amazing Sugar Swap. So. If this is you, PM me and we can swap info, contacts and pictures.

This is legitimate, and I look forward to providing my Sugar with a new Daddy (or two). Let's help each other. And please don't just write me asking for a hook up. This is only for those who have a similar amazing Sugar to share![/QUOTE]Many I ask for some details? Age? Height? Weight? Hair color? Endowment? Single / SO? Education? Price Range?

What part of the Philly Area is she located?

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6962335]Many I ask for some details? Age? Height? Weight? Hair color? Endowment? Single / SO? Education? Price Range?

What part of the Philly Area is she located?[/QUOTE]My preference is to not publish this info. Will share via private message if you contact me.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6962335]Many I ask for some details? Age? Height? Weight? Hair color? Endowment? Single / SO? Education? Price Range?

What part of the Philly Area is she located?[/QUOTE]She is AA, mid 40's. 5'4" 110. Petite, athletic build. Black hair. She is well educated (advanced degree). With a professional career. She is a single mom with kids.

She is located in the Center City area, but meets at convenient places.

[QUOTE=HolySheite;6962804]She is AA, mid 40's. 5'4" 110. Petite, athletic build. Black hair. She is well educated (advanced degree). With a professional career. She is a single mom with kids.

She is located in the Center City area, but meets at convenient places.[/QUOTE]Wow my guy, this is the woman you were hyping up so much? Mid 40's? WITH KIDS? Sheez. No wonder you're trying to trade her off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9b2ac4d3-0e8d-46c2-b73a-7e9d4533cf88[/URL]

This girl was on here before as Jelliebean or something further back in the reports. She's exhausting. The usual "I'm NoT a HoOkEr" nonsense like she's not there for money. Claims she wouldn't do sex for cash no matter how bad her financial state was. Sure. Said she had a medical issue she needed to take care of and all the while kept giving me maybe I'll meet tomorrow this that and the other thing, completely wishy-washy, even saying maybe the site isn't for her anymore. All this just for a meet and greet for lunch before even getting intimate. Doesn't want to share her number either, and since she was stalling without at least moving off the website, I said "Guess you wouldn't want to share your number either?" the well was soured not too long after since she kept saying all I wanted was to just talk about the arrangement. Like no shlt lady, that's the whole point of the site. Wants to have her emotional cake and eat it too. Was a breast cancer survivor too according to her so probably had masectomies and she said her hair wasn't real. Wow, what a catch. Whined about how I didn't say anything about her being a breast cancer survivor when I specifically shared how my mom had malignant tumors and had to have a hysterectomy, so I'm glad they both came out of their ordeals. The selective memory was strong with her so I knew I was going to get nowhere and blocked.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/752f9d2c-bc84-4cbc-9376-a5a51bbba57e[/URL]

Can someone point to another review of her? I think I saw something before just need a link. She's a rinser though. Wants money for meeting for drinks.

[QUOTE=KCesar68;6963846]Wow my guy, this is the woman you were hyping up so much? Mid 40's? WITH KIDS? Sheez. No wonder you're trying to trade her off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9b2ac4d3-0e8d-46c2-b73a-7e9d4533cf88[/URL]

This girl was on here before as Jelliebean or something further back in the reports. She's exhausting. The usual "I'm NoT a HoOkEr" nonsense like she's not there for money. Claims she wouldn't do sex for cash no matter how bad her financial state was. Sure. Said she had a medical issue she needed to take care of and all the while kept giving me maybe I'll meet tomorrow this that and the other thing, completely wishy-washy, even saying maybe the site isn't for her anymore. All this just for a meet and greet for lunch before even getting intimate. Doesn't want to share her number either, and since she was stalling without at least moving off the website, I said "Guess you wouldn't want to share your number either?" the well was soured not too long after since she kept saying all I wanted was to just talk about the arrangement. Like no shlt lady, that's the whole point of the site. Wants to have her emotional cake and eat it too. Was a breast cancer survivor too according to her so probably had masectomies and she said her hair wasn't real. Wow, what a catch. Whined about how I didn't say anything about her being a breast cancer survivor when I specifically shared how my mom had malignant tumors and had to have a hysterectomy, so I'm glad they both came out of their ordeals. The selective memory was strong with her so I knew I was going to get nowhere and blocked.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/752f9d2c-bc84-4cbc-9376-a5a51bbba57e[/URL]

Can someone point to another review of her? I think I saw something before just need a link. She's a rinser though. Wants money for meeting for drinks.[/QUOTE]See. You assume too much. First off, if I showed you a picture you could never guess her age. Second, best sex is still best sex. I am in it for the enjoyment. Not the statistics. Third. She is more experienced than most young bimbos. She can teach you all kinds of new tricks. And new kinks. So keep on missing out. I have no intention of passing on her. Just looking for new adventures.

If anyone is interested and not biased. Contact me. If not. Your loss, not mine.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/752f9d2c-bc84-4cbc-9376-a5a51bbba57e[/URL]

She is not in Philly, like far away in Doylestown and doesn't drive- right now that would be $60 one way. Told me in a passive aggressive way that men are happy to Uber her back and forth. I don't know if she hosts. I think she has gps too, and wanted 7 x $ or something ridiculous for a platonic first meet over dinner. I was thinking 3 tops for the whole shebang at the time and am pretty sure I just laughed at her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/39fcb711-ce4c-49e6-a935-a0fec561adb0[/URL]

I generally take it as a red flag when a girl from seeking calls me "dear" or "luv" etc. This girl does that and when we we chatting details she requested 5 and then gave time frames for services. She used the phrase "I don't clock watch" to me that's some STG bullshit and is a step closer to want I want to avoid- ie some chick that's on seeking to keep a heavy drug habit going.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/363048e3-f8f7-4010-aca5-6c32aa9012df[/URL] She's horny and turned on by this. But she has a big belly. Hard pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/a31bdcb6-5ee2-46a3-b1ba-d1692488ccee[/URL] Thinks she's a lot hotter than she is. Think she wanted to switch to Signal or Kik or something. Lost interest.

[QUOTE=HolySheite;6964227]First off, if I showed you a picture you could never guess her age.[/QUOTE]Maybe not guess what it is but I sure as hell would be able to tell what it ISN'T: young.

[QUOTE=HolySheite;6964227]Second, best sex is still best sex. I am in it for the enjoyment.[/QUOTE]That's cool and everyone enjoys different things. I don't enjoy a woman who is essentially a decade older than me.

[QUOTE=HolySheite;6964227]Third. She is more experienced than most young bimbos.[/QUOTE]So in other words, she's used up more? That sure tastes like a very sour grape.

[QUOTE=HolySheite;6964227]She can teach you all kinds of new tricks. And new kinks.[/QUOTE]That's very doubtful on the former, and for the latter, I'm happy with the kinks I have, thanks.

[QUOTE=HolySheite;6964227]So keep on missing out.[/QUOTE]I'll have to take your word on that.

[QUOTE=EpicSD;6964863][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/752f9d2c-bc84-4cbc-9376-a5a51bbba57e[/URL]

She is not in Philly, like far away in Doylestown and doesn't drive- right now that would be $60 one way. Told me in a passive aggressive way that men are happy to Uber her back and forth. I don't know if she hosts. I think she has gps too, and wanted 7 x $ or something ridiculous for a platonic first meet over dinner. I was thinking 3 tops for the whole shebang at the time and am pretty sure I just laughed at her.[/QUOTE]It's worse than that. I KNOW there's been reports about her here before, I just didn't remember how insanely ridiculous they are. Below you can see just how much worse. God, I hate how they don't have to pay anything which means they don't have their time / money wasted. Else she'd never be on the site with how insane she is with her pipe-dream amounts. Actually used the words "buy me a house" Good lord, how I wish she could have her seeking page plastered all over her personal social media. That I would pay 5 benis for.

[QUOTE=EpicSD;6964896][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/39fcb711-ce4c-49e6-a935-a0fec561adb0[/URL]

I generally take it as a red flag when a girl from seeking calls me "dear" or "luv" etc. This girl does that and when we we chatting details she requested 5 and then gave time frames for services. She used the phrase "I don't clock watch" to me that's some STG bullshit and is a step closer to want I want to avoid- ie some chick that's on seeking to keep a heavy drug habit going.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/363048e3-f8f7-4010-aca5-6c32aa9012df[/URL] She's horny and turned on by this. But she has a big belly. Hard pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/a31bdcb6-5ee2-46a3-b1ba-d1692488ccee[/URL] Thinks she's a lot hotter than she is. Think she wanted to switch to Signal or Kik or something. Lost interest.[/QUOTE]Here's the chubby one [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/85040d02-1453-4e83-b58e-9965b6f64fbf[/URL].

Here's the average looking one [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cce6131e-d65c-4866-835d-6363d21282b2[/URL].

[QUOTE=EpicSD;6964863][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/752f9d2c-bc84-4cbc-9376-a5a51bbba57e[/URL]

She is not in Philly, like far away in Doylestown and doesn't drive- right now that would be $60 one way. Told me in a passive aggressive way that men are happy to Uber her back and forth. I don't know if she hosts. I think she has gps too, and wanted 7 x $ or something ridiculous for a platonic first meet over dinner. I was thinking 3 tops for the whole shebang at the time and am pretty sure I just laughed at her.[/QUOTE]Other have said it already but she is out of touch with pricing and I do venture into higher pay ranges occasionally. I think I was offered the possibility of a $$ massage! She seems real but there is a lot of overhead. You need to transport her and it can't be too close to home. She does say that other guys pay for whatever she actually offers but who knows. Just skip the aggravation!

[QUOTE=KCesar68;6963846]Wow my guy, this is the woman you were hyping up so much? Mid 40's? WITH KIDS? Sheez. No wonder you're trying to trade her off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9b2ac4d3-0e8d-46c2-b73a-7e9d4533cf88[/URL]

This girl was on here before as Jelliebean or something further back in the reports. She's exhausting. The usual "I'm NoT a HoOkEr" nonsense like she's not there for money. Claims she wouldn't do sex for cash no matter how bad her financial state was. Sure. Said she had a medical issue she needed to take care of and all the while kept giving me maybe I'll meet tomorrow this that and the other thing, completely wishy-washy, even saying maybe the site isn't for her anymore. All this just for a meet and greet for lunch before even getting intimate. Doesn't want to share her number either, and since she was stalling without at least moving off the website, I said "Guess you wouldn't want to share your number either?" the well was soured not too long after since she kept saying all I wanted was to just talk about the arrangement. Like no shlt lady, that's the whole point of the site. Wants to have her emotional cake and eat it too. Was a breast cancer survivor too according to her so probably had mastectomies and she said her hair wasn't real. Wow, what a catch. Whined about how I didn't say anything about her being a breast cancer survivor when I specifically shared how my mom had malignant tumors and had to have a hysterectomy, so I'm glad they both came out of their ordeals. The selective memory was strong with her so I knew I was going to get nowhere and blocked..[/QUOTE]This one is a serial antagonizer! Her goal is to get you to block her. These are different pictures than I saw except for the 1st one. This person is playing a game but obviously have access to a lot of pictures of this woman. I know this because I have approached her with multiple accounts and it's the same pattern aggressive and confrontational. She (or he) will eventually block you if they can't have any more fun. Do not give them any information because they may be using it to harm you.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6383f52d-ec67-484a-8f26-597ce54b3a14[/URL]

Anyone ever meet or talk to Blossom?

Always cancels. On me anyway. Any luck?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cd77c1c3-f8a0-4c38-8f1a-60137b18f567[/URL]

[QUOTE=Joadt;6967424][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6383f52d-ec67-484a-8f26-597ce54b3a14[/URL]

Anyone ever meet or talk to Blossom?[/QUOTE]Can't remember exactly what it was. She had a pro vibe though. Think she lives in North Philly but isn't going to school. Usually a red flag for me.

[QUOTE=Joadt;6967442]Always cancels. On me anyway. Any luck?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cd77c1c3-f8a0-4c38-8f1a-60137b18f567[/URL][/QUOTE]Same here. Tried a few times and would get replies but she would then never follow through.

Would be curious too whether anyone actually got to meet.

AC.

[QUOTE=Joadt;6967442]Always cancels. On me anyway. Any luck?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cd77c1c3-f8a0-4c38-8f1a-60137b18f567[/URL][/QUOTE]I have met her about a year ago, for M&G. Which I did offer some gas moolah because she kept cancelling on me. When we did meet she seemed chill and seemed interested. I did offer her 3 benz but she stated that she had TOM. I had contacted her again and she would just cancel again. But she would text me back stating how sorry she is.

I am very straight up person. I told her I could do 4 benz but that would be my max and I would probably only meet once or twice a month if we clicked. She would just say try again on this day and that she was very interested.

She is older than her pics and what she states. Probably more like 25 and up. Still looks attractive to me. Thin blonde. She did say she went to school for dentistry. At that time she was on SB and seeking and on alot. I am no longer on any sites. But she seems like a rinser or looking for a whale. Anyway I gave up. I usually wait some and try again. I tried about 2 times and each time she would cone up with an excuse. Also if someone is not interested I move on. There needs to be some chemistry to work right and if the other person is like luke warm or canceling I just move on. It could have been the money too. But I have my limits and after 3 benz. Its just too much for me anyway. I do like to repeat if there's good vibes.

Anyone else had an experience with her?

[QUOTE=Joadt;6967424][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6383f52d-ec67-484a-8f26-597ce54b3a14[/URL]

Anyone ever meet or talk to Blossom?[/QUOTE]I'm interested in meeting her.

She doesn't respond to messages though.

[QUOTE=Joadt;6967442]Always cancels. On me anyway. Any luck?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cd77c1c3-f8a0-4c38-8f1a-60137b18f567[/URL][/QUOTE]Same situation for me too.

Responds to messages, some conversation.

But ultimately never finalizing to an intimate encounter.

[QUOTE=Joadt;6967424][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6383f52d-ec67-484a-8f26-597ce54b3a14[/URL]

Anyone ever meet or talk to Blossom?[/QUOTE]Spoke to her once about a year ago, she said she was interested but then never followed up with me. Time waster.

[QUOTE=HenryT458;6949485]It appears this lady made a new profile but still uses the same business model.

Her response:

Hi Jenny nice to meet you, I do charge 300 for the meet and greet hope that's okst.

NEXT.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6d4cbf83-3af7-43a7-b886-5398e015fd6e[/URL][/QUOTE]Absolute time waster, I posted about her before. She refuses to get intimate except for another 500 on top of the meet and greet lmao.

Man I don't know where the fuck these bozo ass bitches are getting these ridiculous numbers from. Wants 800, rubbers, even with proof of clean tests. Why the fuck are clean tests not enough anymore? Are they that scientifically ignorant? Rhetorical. I know theyre fucking stupid. Avoid fellas.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e7048e9c-11d9-4ce9-b7b5-015572579bed[/URL]

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri267;6969959]Man I don't know where the fuck these bozo ass bitches are getting these ridiculous numbers from. Wants 800, rubbers, even with proof of clean tests. Why the fuck are clean tests not enough anymore? Are they that scientifically ignorant? Rhetorical. I know theyre fucking stupid. Avoid fellas.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e7048e9c-11d9-4ce9-b7b5-015572579bed[/URL][/QUOTE]Actually seems like what we are seeing is an influx of women that took the bait of TicTok influencers. There's girls on TT telling these young women that they can get 5-figure allowances, apartments, cars, etc from Sugar Daddiies and don't have to sleep with them. Others tell the girls to "know your worth" and encourage girls to ask for rates that would top most Tryst / Eros girls.

Or maybe its Instagram or other SM that pump unrealistic expectations into these girls heads. Sadly, after a few weeks or months "in the Bowl" many of these girls give up. Unfortunately there isn't a SD for every want to be SB. It's competitive and only the Model quality girls find the few 1% dudes willing to pay the exorbitant levels.

But I get where these girls are coming from with the STD stuff. Since their "culture" is likely hook-up culture they see sex through the lens of easy hook-ups, whereas SDs might have a family or a job that keeps them busy enough they don't have time or the inclination to hook up all the time. So girls think dudes are as promiscuous as the likely are, and that means for them, condom usage is protective.

I had a SB once that had STIs a couple of times, even though I tested clean, so she was hooking up with a FB and likely others. She actually said to me, oh well, getting an STI is just a risk of dating.

It's an interesting world out there!

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri267;6969959]Man I don't know where the fuck these bozo ass bitches are getting these ridiculous numbers from. Wants 800, rubbers, even with proof of clean tests. Why the fuck are clean tests not enough anymore? Are they that scientifically ignorant? Rhetorical. I know theyre fucking stupid. Avoid fellas.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e7048e9c-11d9-4ce9-b7b5-015572579bed[/URL][/QUOTE]Kinda like this one. Wants 700 but was probably cool with 600. Wasn't sure if she was going to do with condoms or not. Either way, I got the feeling she had a bit of GPS but at least she wasn't acting rude or conceited. Ultimately I passed on her, have some more comfortable prospects. Pictures below are just of her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/320f63cf-8c62-4db7-b00a-4d29a077002e[/URL]

This one is surprisingly cool and personable. With all the tats and the looks I figured she'd act like another egotistical ho but she is cool to negotiate, (started semi-high but not at an unreasonable amount). I'm clean as well but she didn't want to budge on condoms. But for those who are ok with protection, she definitely is kinder and more likeable than most of the bimbo wh0 res asking for your arm and leg and she also doesn't text or talk like a tiktoker /5 year old.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri267;6969086]Spoke to her once about a year ago, she said she was interested but then never followed up with me. Time waster.[/QUOTE]Yup. She kept pushing the time back. From what was going to be 12 to 1 then 4:00. I took a pass at that point.

Many girls on SA looking for short term only.

Usually they will be excited to meet you for about 1 week starting from first messaging with you.

It goes like this:

You message them, they respond, they are excited to continue, and they plan a meet with you.

You meet them, obviously they want PPM. That's fine, you two meet and hook up.

A majority of them will then ghost / flake at this point.

Very few girls on the site will stay with a consistent thing that continues each week or every 2 weeks, at least this has been my observation. Very few long term thinkers on the site.

For those that are looking for one off hook ups, this is great. You can run your lay count up, doing these 1 time deals. The girls are okay with this too. They have no problems fucking you and never seeing you again after that. They are just in a certain mood and you happen to be messaging them at the right time.

So if you want to fuck them, you can. You just have a limited amount of time to do it before that window closes and they've moved on from the mood that they are in.

Just something to keep in mind, there are a lot of girls on seeking right now that operate this way.

I prefer long term encounters so that's what I aim for. I'm aware a lot of these girls are just in a moment though and are only interested for a maximum of 1 week. These 1 week type of relationships though are not too appealing to me.

[QUOTE=UsaBlinkGuy11;6973712]You message them, they respond, they are excited to continue, and they plan a meet with you.[/QUOTE]Man you're lucky if they even do -that. - This one always acts like she wants something special and no matter how nice you are she just makes up reasons why she can't meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f1dcb8dc-a046-4665-afcc-0d301d52197e[/URL]

Anyone seen this girl and can vouch for her? Or is she talking to you currently? Seems too good to be true.

[QUOTE=UsaBlinkGuy11;6973712]Many girls on SA looking for short term only.

Usually they will be excited to meet you for about 1 week starting from first messaging with you.

It goes like this:

You message them, they respond, they are excited to continue, and they plan a meet with you.

You meet them, obviously they want PPM. That's fine, you two meet and hook up.

A majority of them will then ghost / flake at this point.

Very few girls on the site will stay with a consistent thing that continues each week or every 2 weeks, at least this has been my observation. Very few long term thinkers on the site.

For those that are looking for one off hook ups, this is great. You can run your lay count up, doing these 1 time deals. The girls are okay with this too. They have no problems fucking you and never seeing you again after that. They are just in a certain mood and you happen to be messaging them at the right time.

So if you want to fuck them, you can. You just have a limited amount of time to do it before that window closes and they've moved on from the mood that they are in.

Just something to keep in mind, there are a lot of girls on seeking right now that operate this way.

I prefer long term encounters so that's what I aim for. I'm aware a lot of these girls are just in a moment though and are only interested for a maximum of 1 week. These 1 week type of relationships though are not too appealing to me.[/QUOTE]It's sad to see. I met tons of girls like this who I actually wanted to continue seeing. One day they just stop responding. Others who wanted to keep seeing me, were unfortunately not what I was looking for. Too many demands, mental health problems, drama, etc. I appreciate the ones who just get to the point and get right to fucking for those nights you just want to scratch the itch.

[QUOTE=KCesar68;6973955]Man you're lucky if they even do -that. - This one always acts like she wants something special and no matter how nice you are she just makes up reasons why she can't meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f1dcb8dc-a046-4665-afcc-0d301d52197e[/URL][/QUOTE]I had the same experience with her.

[QUOTE=KCesar68;6973955]Man you're lucky if they even do -that. - This one always acts like she wants something special and no matter how nice you are she just makes up reasons why she can't meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f1dcb8dc-a046-4665-afcc-0d301d52197e[/URL][/QUOTE]It is tough, long term is very hard to get. Very very hard.

Communication is there on day 1, but that's all you get, just that day.

The next day, communication falls off a cliff. Terrible response times, girl is basically 20% there mentally, you can be texting her, but she is not actually "there". And this will be obvious due to the response times you get. Very delayed.

This is about 95% of cases, in my experience.

Very very tough game to get long term.

Short term is a bit easier, meeting them the same night to fuck is ideal. However, if you do this, you will never see the girl again. She's going to ghost.

So pick which path you want to go down.

[QUOTE=UsaBlinkGuy11;6976539]It is tough, long term is very hard to get. Very very hard.

Communication is there on day 1, but that's all you get, just that day.

The next day, communication falls off a cliff. Terrible response times, girl is basically 20% there mentally, you can be texting her, but she is not actually "there". And this will be obvious due to the response times you get. Very delayed.

This is about 95% of cases, in my experience.

Very very tough game to get long term.

Short term is a bit easier, meeting them the same night to fuck is ideal. However, if you do this, you will never see the girl again. She's going to ghost.

So pick which path you want to go down.[/QUOTE]My long term experiences have been quite difference from those expressed here. Almost every baby I've met has reached back out to me numerous times to hookup again regardless of whether or not I have had the same interest. PPM is never $300.

[QUOTE=UninhibitedFla;6979609]My long term experiences have been quite difference from those expressed here. Almost every baby I've met has reached back out to me numerous times to hookup again regardless of whether or not I have had the same interest. PPM is never $300.[/QUOTE]I have had about 80%-90% interest from SBs to meet up again. Being committed to actual communication is key and also staying attractive to the SB on multiple levels. I don't treat a SB like a sex worker- I manage to keep things non transactional and I come from a place of helping them as they need.

Communication involves listening and meeting these young ladies where their at. Being honest about who I am is important too. I've learned to communicate in the language they use with the sensibilities they generally have. I am big on consent throughout the entirety of our time together,. Even if we're naked and doing other stuff I still ask if it's OK to fuq her before I do, giving her that last opportunity to choose is HUGE for them. And it also almost always improves the time I have. Also being respectful about their boundaries goes a long way. Simply put, if a hot 22-27 year old girl feels safe and heard she is more likely to unleash her slutty side and give me more. And if she has second thoughts, even during the act, it's ok for her to stop.

Also I stick to 3 x $ to 4 x $ for them and check back in if they're satisfied with it, I don't try to get the lowest p p m possible. But that's just me, you do you. If a girl tells me they require 5-7 I'll tell them I only go to 4 and I don't hate on them unless they become demeaning. Often, based on what else I bring, they will be cool with 4. I'm pretty normal, single and stay in shape. I'm not asking to come to their place, which is a huge risk for a woman with a strange man. I'm also blunt about the sex, in a non creepy way. We're adults and know that sex is a big part of SD / SB (but not everything). And being up front, obviously weeds out the rinsers.

My biggest issue is "NEXT" With so many to choose from, even with the crazy amount of AI fakes on there (I stay away from almost all "Asian" profiles these days, unless I've seen them for a long time). For now I've settled on an amazing hot younger girl that sweet as pie and fucking hot.

[QUOTE=Joadt;6974939]I had the same experience with her.[/QUOTE]Stopped pretending she was interested with her "my phone is off" story so I called her out and called her a flake. And of course, the sour grapes of "I was having doubts but now I know I made the right decision" reply. Sure honey.

Same rinser scam that comes back every year with a new profile. Word for word the same reply as last year.

Hi, I wouldn't have a problem with that type of arrangement but I should warn you; you might not like how I do things when it comes to the first meeting.

NEXT.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de1466c4-ab66-4a0d-8adc-f84cbbf2b853[/URL]

[QUOTE=HenryT458;6981103]Same rinser scam that comes back every year with a new profile. Word for word the same reply as last year.

Hi, I wouldn't have a problem with that type of arrangement but I should warn you; you might not like how I do things when it comes to the first meeting.

NEXT.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de1466c4-ab66-4a0d-8adc-f84cbbf2b853[/URL][/QUOTE]This was a new ploy to keep interest. Scammers getting creative. I appreciate the entrepreneurial effort. However, I doubt some fool sent her money and he's taking her to Zahav.

Was texting with this lady and she asks the question, " so what do your arrangement's look like? Would you mind describing them to me?" This type of question is usually an indication the lady is actually looking for something specific. Likely a platonic arrangement. Or I'm just not attractive enough to her for her to be intimate. So I told her, my arrangements are not platonic. They are adult relationships. She went dark.

Best of luck gents.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d7456002-d3a7-46fd-a316-dafb8460c552[/URL]

This one is my bad. She's real. She's damn pretty. Her eyes are amazing. Hypnotizing even. So much so, that I didn't do my usual vetting. She was lovely and pleasant at the meet and greet. But those eyes. Wow. She's a good person. A bit thicker than the pics but still well proportioned.

Once we moved to a more private setting. We are not compatible in the bedroom at all. I won't visit her again. Not worth it to me. Best of luck gents.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/509a7b66-e3ad-4d8d-90fe-3251607e02ef[/URL]

[QUOTE=HenryT458;6982767]This one is my bad. She's real. She's damn pretty. Her eyes are amazing. Hypnotizing even. So much so, that I didn't do my usual vetting. She was lovely and pleasant at the meet and greet. But those eyes. Wow. She's a good person. A bit thicker than the pics but still well proportioned.

Once we moved to a more private setting. We are not compatible in the bedroom at all. I won't visit her again. Not worth it to me. Best of luck gents.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/509a7b66-e3ad-4d8d-90fe-3251607e02ef[/URL][/QUOTE]ROFL!! Refused to do it without a condom, didn't she?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de1466c4-ab66-4a0d-8adc-f84cbbf2b853[/URL]

Like reported below, fake scammer. Tried to pass me off some pics when I asked for a verification pic.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8d7df9e0-d0ae-4fff-bb46-32df6f45e872[/URL]

This one has a similar MO to one from some months ago. Sends pics right away to fool you. I figured they were of a porn or cam girl. Asked to send verification pic but doesn't send the actual pose, tries to pass off some other pose. When I tell them to send the right pose, they get angry and defensive. Even though "she" just tried to send the supposed selfie for verification I asked. At that point I just let "her" prove me right some more by getting madder and cursing more at me.

I blocked the one in the pics below so I can't link it but she's ridiculous. Full of herself and basically acts like she's a hot little 20-something wanting a rich dude to take care of her.

[QUOTE=HenryT458;6982244]Was texting with this lady and she asks the question, " so what do your arrangement's look like? Would you mind describing them to me?" This type of question is usually an indication the lady is actually looking for something specific. Likely a platonic arrangement. Or I'm just not attractive enough to her for her to be intimate. So I told her, my arrangements are not platonic. They are adult relationships. She went dark.

Best of luck gents.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d7456002-d3a7-46fd-a316-dafb8460c552[/URL][/QUOTE]She's cute as alllll hell tho. Timid personality but opens up when she's comfortable with you. However, you hit the nail right on the head. 100% Platonic smh.