The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[QUOTE=RalDude;5622004]Just starting to dip my toes into the sugar bowl for the first time. (not sure why I haven't ended up here sooner!

I've been doing a lot of reading over the past few weeks, and am about to pull the trigger on a paid account at Seeking.

Have any of you tested the difference between the "premium" and the "diamond" account levels? Do you get more / better responses and connections with the diamond? Or is it just a scammer magnet?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Sign up for the premium membership when they have a promotion going. Am sure they'll have one around thanksgiving, Christmas, and the new year.

Appreciate the quick responses on the diamond level and the promo. They've been offering a 20% every few logins, so I'll probably just take that.

Hoping to share some stories or lessons learned soon!

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5622358]I've also heard that women will adjust their ask higher if you're a diamond member. And they'll use it against you if you attempt to negotiate.[/QUOTE]At that point you go from a sap to a super sap. The days of that site being even somewhat legit are long gone.

I posted the question on the Wilmington board, any info on her, seems.

Too hot to be true.

Is she pro?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/44879cb2-b913-4eb6-9dab-00c0c443aa6b[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e4c272d-6e92-4402-aec0-358a9cc5d8da[/URL]

Anyone seen this one? This one seems pro. After initial greeting on site we moved convo to text. She was responding and texting faster than I can think. LOL. It was a turn off and then she asked for the famous money for pics. Wanted $50 for 10 pics. I stopped the convo there. And of course she tried to guilt by asking if I could afford it.

[QUOTE=Raltime;5624887]I posted the question on the Wilmington board, any info on her, seems.

Too hot to be true.

Is she pro?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/44879cb2-b913-4eb6-9dab-00c0c443aa6b[/URL][/QUOTE]She's a real person anyway. I spoke with her on her social media a couple years ago. I forget what alerted me to inquire about meeting up but I did. As I recall she had an insane number back then. If she's been active since perhaps she's arrived at a more suitable donation. I also recall she had recently lost a decent amount of weight. I don't know if this helps at all but that's what I know. I did not pursue and deleted her social media because I felt like it was a dead end. Please post if you follow up. She's not bad looking.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;5423239]Dude, we are definitely fishing in the same pond! Like my best friend says that turned me on to SA, if I'm paying for a Baby, she's going to be my type & worth it![/QUOTE]Anyone see Lilith? [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/624a7051-404e-4922-a245-592fd96a84dd[/URL].

Met this one a few weeks ago. Easy to set up a meet and semi pro vibe. Overall a pleasant experience as she came back to mine after dinner. She had a tight outfit on and nice perky breasts and ass. Opened with a BBBJ but everything else covered. Let me go a few rounds including final round finishing in 69 with blowing a load in her mouth. Very fun girl and can take a good pounding, light choking, fun doggy slapping that ass. I will probably repeat. Damage was 5.

Wasn't sure if this one was real at first as I think she has two profiles and not much on there. She is real and 20. Her pictures are probably a few years old but looks about the same. We set up a meet and she had never done this before except meeting for dinner. She comes back to a room after dinner and after chatting we start making out. Her tits are almost flat chested but she has a nice ass. She seemed nervous at first but spread those legs nice and wide to let me finger her under those jeans so I knew she wanted it. After taking turns sucking on each other she let me slide it in without a condom. She was very tight and enjoyed a rough standing doggy. Sweet girl and would repeat. Damage was 5.

[QUOTE=OutWestGuy;5641542]Met this one a few weeks ago. Easy to set up a meet and semi pro vibe. Overall a pleasant experience as she came back to mine after dinner. She had a tight outfit on and nice perky breasts and ass. Opened with a BBBJ but everything else covered. Let me go a few rounds including final round finishing in 69 with blowing a load in her mouth. Very fun girl and can take a good pounding, light choking, fun doggy slapping that ass. I will probably repeat. Damage was 5.[/QUOTE]Link to h we profile.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d292015f-e73e-4a4b-a641-bf049d07b760[/URL]

[QUOTE=OutWestGuy;5641568]Wasn't sure if this one was real at first as I think she has two profiles and not much on there. She is real and 20. Her pictures are probably a few years old but looks about the same. We set up a meet and she had never done this before except meeting for dinner. She comes back to a room after dinner and after chatting we start making out. Her tits are almost flat chested but she has a nice ass. She seemed nervous at first but spread those legs nice and wide to let me finger her under those jeans so I knew she wanted it. After taking turns sucking on each other she let me slide it in without a condom. She was very tight and enjoyed a rough standing doggy. Sweet girl and would repeat. Damage was 5.[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/831390ba-de64-49ba-843e-da27b2001200[/URL]

Any intel? We set up a meeting soon for what sounds like I can do whatever I want.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0dc5a3c1-e014-44a7-8d90-2479344da73d[/URL]

[QUOTE=OutWestGuy;5641568]Wasn't sure if this one was real at first as I think she has two profiles and not much on there. She is real and 20. Her pictures are probably a few years old but looks about the same. We set up a meet and she had never done this before except meeting for dinner. She comes back to a room after dinner and after chatting we start making out. Her tits are almost flat chested but she has a nice ass. She seemed nervous at first but spread those legs nice and wide to let me finger her under those jeans so I knew she wanted it. After taking turns sucking on each other she let me slide it in without a condom. She was very tight and enjoyed a rough standing doggy. Sweet girl and would repeat. Damage was 5.[/QUOTE]By "a room" do you mean you booked a hotel room after dinner went well?

A few of you have PM'd me asking how things are going so far as a newbie in the bowl, and how to get started. I put a (longer than expected) post together responding to a Sugar Bowl question over in the main escort thread, that might be useful to others:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8628-Escort-Reports&p=5645514&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5645514.

If this kind of newbie info has value, let me know and I'll make another post (s) with "lessons learned" so far.

Sorry, it looks like she blocked me and I can't link to profile, but see the attached photo (If you're chatting with someone that looks like a younger Mary Louise parker this is probably her). User name was Odessa (or similar) in the Winston area (but was willing to meet closer to triangle).

Good conversations for about a week, said all the right things, and was DTF. She moved things to SMS pretty quickly, and it still went ok. Scheduled a meet and when she assumed I was close to the location (haha jokes on her, I was running late AF), she texted 10 minutes before the time with some story about just figuring our my SMS was a burner number, how she had been a victim of sexual assault, and that she needed my real cell# before she would get out of her car and go in. I acted like I was there already and called BS, said maybe we could just meet by the entrance etc. And get comfortable. She kept pushing for SMS and trying to tease out other personal info (which car are you in, how far did you have to drive to get here etc.). At this point I knew it was a scam, and I was just wasting her time to see how far she would take things, and what other tricks she was going to attempt. She eventually got belligerent and quit responding and apparently blocked me.

Be safe.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/44a722bc-cfb0-4fa0-bba2-84df5b29c42f[/URL]

I'm pretty new to SA and trying it out for a change of pace. Had this girl reach out to me, shared her private pic after some convo, and at first I thought she was fake with that profile pic.

She's actually pretty cute in the other pics.

Every response to me was one or two word, delayed responses, but with exclamation marks at least, LOL.

She randomly hit me up to meet her one day last week if I was free to meet.

I asked if she has her own place, states no, has a roommates.

Asked what all she was into, dinner, public etc. She replied with one word, Hotel.

Idk seems sketchy, any intel?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c51e136e-bec6-4954-97c2-c1c694668a0a[/URL]

Any intel on this one as well? She reached out to me and sent me her private pics immediately. Not too sure about her from her profile about being on another account or everything being about her, seems like she might be GPS.

Not sure. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=GMag69NC;5647708][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c51e136e-bec6-4954-97c2-c1c694668a0a[/URL]

Any intel on this one as well? She reached out to me and sent me her private pics immediately. Not too sure about her from her profile about being on another account or everything being about her, seems like she might be GPS.

Not sure. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I haven't chatted with her, but in general I've noticed a strong correlation between the number of items on their wish list and the GPS level. At 6X she is up there.

[QUOTE=GMag69NC;5647704][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/44a722bc-cfb0-4fa0-bba2-84df5b29c42f[/URL]

I'm pretty new to SA and trying it out for a change of pace. Had this girl reach out to me, shared her private pic after some convo, and at first I thought she was fake with that profile pic.

She's actually pretty cute in the other pics.

Every response to me was one or two word, delayed responses, but with exclamation marks at least, LOL.

She randomly hit me up to meet her one day last week if I was free to meet.

I asked if she has her own place, states no, has a roommates.

Asked what all she was into, dinner, public etc. She replied with one word, Hotel.

Idk seems sketchy, any intel?[/QUOTE]Sketchy. Main image comes up on image search (Pintrest & The Chive), which is pretty rare in my experience so far on Seeking. So you're not even dealing with a sophisticated scammer here. If "she" gave you access to her other photos, I'd image search them and see.

Once I figure out it's a scammer, I've been playing these out just to learn as many of their tricks as possible when big head is in control.

[QUOTE=GMag69NC;5647704][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/44a722bc-cfb0-4fa0-bba2-84df5b29c42f[/URL]

I'm pretty new to SA and trying it out for a change of pace. Had this girl reach out to me, shared her private pic after some convo, and at first I thought she was fake with that profile pic.

She's actually pretty cute in the other pics.

Every response to me was one or two word, delayed responses, but with exclamation marks at least, LOL.

She randomly hit me up to meet her one day last week if I was free to meet.

I asked if she has her own place, states no, has a roommates.

Asked what all she was into, dinner, public etc. She replied with one word, Hotel.

Idk seems sketchy, any intel?[/QUOTE]One of the first things to do if you're skeptical is reverse image search on Google:

[URL]https://www.pinterest.co.kr/pin/735846026617529268[/URL]

And yes, what you're describing is sketch on its face.

[QUOTE=RalDude;5647220]A few of you have PM'd me asking how things are going so far as a newbie in the bowl, and how to get started. I put a (longer than expected) post together responding to a Sugar Bowl question over in the main escort thread, that might be useful to others:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8628-Escort-Reports&p=5645514&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5645514.

If this kind of newbie info has value, let me know and I'll make another post (s) with "lessons learned" so far.[/QUOTE]Review and am testing the waters. We would greatly appreciate a "lessons learned" post from you at your convenience.

[QUOTE=OutWestGuy;5646289]Any intel? We set up a meeting soon for what sounds like I can do whatever I want.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0dc5a3c1-e014-44a7-8d90-2479344da73d[/URL][/QUOTE]I know her.

[QUOTE=RalDude;5647791]I haven't chatted with her, but in general I've noticed a strong correlation between the number of items on their wish list and the GPS level. At 6X she is up there.[/QUOTE]Never thought about looking at the wish list like that very interesting observation!!

[QUOTE=LiquidCoil;5647849]One of the first things to do if you're skeptical is reverse image search on Google:

[URL]https://www.pinterest.co.kr/pin/735846026617529268[/URL]


And yes, what you're describing is sketch on its face.[/QUOTE]Ah I usually do, shoot. And bad part is she hid her photos after I hid mine. So no way to tell if she was just posting a main pic from the internet vs her other pics, those coulda been fake too though! Thanks for the tips, nonetheless!

[QUOTE=GMag69NC;5647708][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c51e136e-bec6-4954-97c2-c1c694668a0a[/URL]

Any intel on this one as well? She reached out to me and sent me her private pics immediately. Not too sure about her from her profile about being on another account or everything being about her, seems like she might be GPS.

Not sure. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I also was given access to her private pics. And I am interested. Just don't have premium privileges at this time to message her. Waiting to see SA will offer discount during thanksgiving.

[QUOTE=Parabola;5648087]Review and am testing the waters. We would greatly appreciate a "lessons learned" post from you at your convenience.[/QUOTE]Enjoy the bowl. I'll start putting some thoughts together for a post or two.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;5648259]I also was given access to her private pics. And I am interested. Just don't have premium privileges at this time to message her. Waiting to see SA will offer discount during thanksgiving.[/QUOTE]FWIW, I've been getting a 33% discount offer email every 3-4 days on the (unpaid) burner account I created. Might be worthwhile to create a few just for that.

I wasn't planning to write this one so soon, but this chick just messaged me and has so many red flag opportunities in her profile, she made it easy.

Here are some of the top ones I see, that are easy to screen out quickly (see attached image).

First, the "Info box" right under their photo on the profile screen is gold. It will show Account Creation Date, Last Active Date, and Recent Location.

General Rule: If you see an account created within the past 1-3 days, with only 1 photo (total, including hidden), a lame 1 sentence (or less!) "About Me" and "Seeking" AND they are messaging or favoriting you already, it's probably a scammer.

Now I have seen a few of these where after a few days more text and photos get added as the lady realizes she needs to bring some more profile-game, and generally these turn out to be legit. But if they don't get updated, you'll also probably notice the profile is gone in a week or so. They either got reported, or found some marks and are off with a new account.

Next, look at her Recent location (New Zealand. Seeking figures this out from their IP address) and where she claims to be from in her profile (Virginia) - if these aren't congruent, scammer.

A few other observations on this one. She claims to be Middle Eastern, but has blond hair and very anglo facial features. The photo is also clearly zoomed in from another photo, likely an attempt to thwart image search.

And for those of you that have read this far, here is an opportunity. Keep an eye on the Member Since & Last Active date. If you've been checking out talent on the site for more than a few days, and all the sudden you see a "new" hottie pop into your search that you haven't seen before check out the dates. If she has been a member for a while (months++) and is just now jumping back onto the site, it's a good indicator that she has either lost her daddy and needs a new one soon and / or needs some quick cash. I'm sure you can find a way to use this.

[QUOTE=RalDude;5648523]FWIW, I've been getting a 33% discount offer email every 3-4 days on the (unpaid) burner account I created. Might be worthwhile to create a few just for that.[/QUOTE]Yes I got it as well.

Here's the link. I hope it works for all.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/billing/memberships?promo=BFCM2021E33&utm_source=sa_ibm&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Logo&utm_content=BF-CyMon_33_promo&utm_campaign=BF-CyMon2021_Nov24_ENG_33&xtor=-%5BSA%20-%20BlackFriday-CyMon%202021%20-%2033off%20-%20Nov-24%20-%20EN%20[/URL](1)%5 D-5 BCTA_Main%5 D-&bxid=%5 BNTc0 MTE2 ODYxNDEwS0%5 D-spMailingID=19567863&spUserID=NTc0 MTE2 ODYxNDEwS0&spJobID=2242542449&spReportId=MjI0 MjU0 MjQ0 OQS2.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;5648259]I also was given access to her private pics. And I am interested. Just don't have premium privileges at this time to message her. Waiting to see SA will offer discount during thanksgiving.[/QUOTE]Gotcha, yeah it seems like these girls are hitting tons of guys up randomly too, to bait. Go get premium man! Hopefully there will be a discount soon for you.

Let me know if you pursue!

Sometimes I wonder. Is there another site, that I'm not aware of, that has all of us Guys on here including me, with their SA links and pictures posted for the girls to discuss and review. Makes you wonder sometimes.

If the chick is a few years, 5+ years older than you, are you considered a sugar daddy? Or are you the sugar baby, but giving her the sugar? Do older women still just want to be paid or are they usually just looking for an escape?

How do you keep some of these girls from getting too attached, sometimes I might disclose too much of my lavish lifestyle but mainly to keep the convo not too generic, and I'm always doing something fun, I don't give my personal cell or host. Do you just reiterate that you'll just looking for NSA / FWB thing? No long term arrangement? I feel like I've talked to girls that are both transactional or girls just looking for a potential relationship and not too focused on payment.

Random PSA:

I was taking to this one girl, and we both mentioned being discrete, then later throughout the conversation she tells me that she showed a few of her girl friends and they approved and though I was hot. Like. I could care less about what her friends think.

But Just a friendly reminder, if you are being discreet, the person you are sharing your pics with may not, and may share your pics around, and if you think the area you're living in is small, usually it is -And sometimes people do know each other.

Just something to think about. Happy Seeking.

[QUOTE=GMag69NC;5648187]Never thought about looking at the wish list like that very interesting observation!![/QUOTE]Scrolling through their items might also give you a feel. If it's all jewelry and $500+ purses & shoes, probably high maintenance and / or a straight up rinser.

I like the ones with sex toys and sexy outfits on their lists, or better yet completely empty!

But either way click them, by default the chicks get a notification when you do, so they might get a little more attentive to you.

[QUOTE=GMag69NC;5648886]Sometimes I wonder. Is there another site, that I'm not aware of, that has all of us Guys on here including me, with their SA links and pictures posted for the girls to discuss and review. Makes you wonder sometimes.

Random PSA:

I was taking to this one girl, and we both mentioned being discrete, then later throughout the conversation she tells me that she showed a few of her girl friends and they approved and though I was hot. Like. I could care less about what her friends think.

But Just a friendly reminder, if you are being discreet, the person you are sharing your pics with may not, and may share your pics around, and if you think the area you're living in is small, usually it is -And sometimes people do know each other.

Just something to think about. Happy Seeking.[/QUOTE]Yea, this part is scary. I've been trying to find a service that will find a very similar photo to mine that I can use. Close enough to pass, but not close enough someone who knows me would recognize it as me. Found one AI tool that claimed to do this, but it's not close at all. If anyone has seen anything like this, please share.

[QUOTE=GMag69NC;5648886]Sometimes I wonder. Is there another site, that I'm not aware of, that has all of us Guys on here including me, with their SA links and pictures posted for the girls to discuss and review. Makes you wonder sometimes.

If the chick is a few years, 5+ years older than you, are you considered a sugar daddy? Or are you the sugar baby, but giving her the sugar? Do older women still just want to be paid or are they usually just looking for an escape?

How do you keep some of these girls from getting too attached, sometimes I might disclose too much of my lavish lifestyle but mainly to keep the convo not too generic, and I'm always doing something fun, I don't give my personal cell or host. Do you just reiterate that you'll just looking for NSA / FWB thing? No long term arrangement? I feel like I've talked to girls that are both transactional or girls just looking for a potential relationship and not too focused on payment.

Random PSA:

I was taking to this one girl, and we both mentioned being discrete, then later throughout the conversation she tells me that she showed a few of her girl friends and they approved and though I was hot. Like. I could care less about what her friends think.

But Just a friendly reminder, if you are being discreet, the person you are sharing your pics with may not, and may share your pics around, and if you think the area you're living in is small, usually it is -And sometimes people do know each other.

Just something to think about. Happy Seeking.[/QUOTE]I keep thinking about the same thing. My current SB is older than me. Well. You are giving sugar to the Baby. Older or not. She still the Sugar Baby.

+1 for the PSA. This point might be what others might have already been doing but was never discussed AFAIK. Providing a resembling pic is definitely recommended. I guess one can simply search for their photo online and it definitely gives out similar images that can be used.

G.

[QUOTE=RalDude;5649176]...I've been trying to find a service that will find a very similar photo to mine that I can use...[/QUOTE]I use the picture of a foreign film actor who sort of kind of resembles me!

[QUOTE=RalDude;5649176]Yea, this part is scary. I've been trying to find a service that will find a very similar photo to mine that I can use. Close enough to pass, but not close enough someone who knows me would recognize it as me. Found one AI tool that claimed to do this, but it's not close at all. If anyone has seen anything like this, please share.[/QUOTE]You can a Google Image search of your own photo, and it will present you some that will resemble you somewhat closely.

Hey guys how the Sb works do I have to pay membership to message.

How can I get around and if I pay just want to try one month.

Can I use a gift card?

Thanks guys.

Any info on this lady? I've been txting with her and have agreed to meet. I would love any info.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cf163a70-f307-42c2-aa88-d71bb799a0c1[/URL]

[QUOTE=NoelB;5652452]Hey guys how the Sb works do I have to pay membership to message.

How can I get around and if I pay just want to try one month.

Can I use a gift card?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]I'm not aware of a way for men to get messaging without paying, I believe females can if they verify with university email (but this is coming from a female I chatted with on there, have not verified any of this).

Yes, you can use a prepaid Visa or Mastercard (I got one from the grocery store) , but you will need to follow the instructions that came with the card and go "register" it with a name and address on the website first. I used a fake name, and real address (not mine) and it worked fine. You'll need to make sure the info you setup on the card and what you use on seeking matches exactly or the card will get declined.

Also, sign up for a free account first, and you should get an email within a few days for 25-33% off a paid account.

[QUOTE=RalDude;5653587]I'm not aware of a way for men to get messaging without paying, I believe females can if they verify with university email (but this is coming from a female I chatted with on there, have not verified any of this).

Yes, you can use a prepaid Visa or Mastercard (I got one from the grocery store) , but you will need to follow the instructions that came with the card and go "register" it with a name and address on the website first. I used a fake name, and real address (not mine) and it worked fine. You'll need to make sure the info you setup on the card and what you use on seeking matches exactly or the card will get declined.

Also, sign up for a free account first, and you should get an email within a few days for 25-33% off a paid account.[/QUOTE]Cool trick I learned, cards are matched by the zip codes. So be sure to at least use the same exact zip code. Any other information doesn't matter or need to be exact such as name or street of the address. I personally do it this way.