Old Mister Johnson had troubles of his own.
He had a yellow cat that wouldn't leave its home;.
He tried and he tried to give the cat away.
He gave it to a man goin' far, far away.
But the cat came back the very next day.
The cat came back, we thought he was a goner.
Songwriters: Harry Miller.
Stay safe.
Med.
[QUOTE=Triptogamont;3462888]Even if they left, they'd be "Back by popular demand" in a week.[/QUOTE]
I've tried to post this message several times. Actually since last Saturday. Not sure why it hasn't been approved. [blue][Deleted by Admin]
Because I keep deleting it. These fight threads are for MEMBERS to let off steam, they are not here so that people with a bone to pick can register a username and do some fingerwaggen.
In other words, fuck off
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[QUOTE=MistressZodiac;3288488]I miss him too. I'm glad he found a happier place in life but he was one of my great dates and I will never forget him. He looks so young and had the softest skin I have ever touched LOL. Those were the days when dreaming with my boyfriend's was intense and I came alot with him. If he ever reads this, I hope he knows I miss him.
MZ.[/QUOTE]I really hope FatLever is ok. I've tried to PM him several times but his inbox is always full. He just vanished. Last I heard from him he was doing the sugar daddy game. If you read this, Fats, shoot me a PM. All you guys who haven't read his post, you should. His adventures were epic. Look him up by username and read all of his post [B]FatLever[/B].
I know we have talked about different ways to defend ourselves when seeing a provider and we got good advise from lots of people so I just wanted to remind everyone that the Dixie gun show is this weekend at the fairgrounds. You can just look or purchase stun guns and all types of self defense items.
To them it is ALL ABOUT MONEY. Money they rarely put back into this economy. As much as I want an AMP experience. I am boycotting them. Not that the money from a BR girl or any BP girl goes directly back to this Econmy. At lease at some point it stays in this country. The AMPs treat us like dirt. Just tired of it. Sorry for the rant.
[QUOTE=Editit;3499322]To them it is ALL ABOUT MONEY. Money they rarely put back into this economy. As much as I want an AMP experience. I am boycotting them. Not that the money from a BR girl or any BP girl goes directly back to this Econmy. At lease at some point it stays in this country. The AMPs treat us like dirt. Just tired of it. Sorry for the rant.[/QUOTE]I agree. That's my last time at an AMP. I hadn't been in a long time but could not get any "decent" (& even that is now proving challenging) advertiser so it was a last resort. The quality, and availability, for massage in this area has declined badly. I'm thinking of taking a break completely.
I think the paper towel thing is so they don't need detergent to wash the oil / lotion out. But, the other time it happened to me was with a CL advertiser not an AMP.
[QUOTE=AlvinPurple;3499389]I agree. That's my last time at an AMP. I hadn't been in a long time but could not get any "decent" (& even that is now proving challenging) advertiser so it was a last resort. The quality, and availability, for massage in this area has declined badly. I'm thinking of taking a break completely.
I think the paper towel thing is so they don't need detergent to wash the oil / lotion out. But, the other time it happened to me was with a CL advertiser not an AMP.[/QUOTE]Personally I don't care where they send or spend their money no matter if they are Chinese, Latino or whatever. If I was in Beijing making money the bulk of it would be headed back to my USA checking account. Now as far as the service and selection decline in this area, we all know the issues they have had with the license thing BUT I put a lot of the decline blame on the store owners for being greedy and lazy. There are hundreds of girls looking for jobs that these owners know exactly where to find. Some of these girls are young hot and eager to work. Some have experience some are fresh off the plane but are still mighty fine looking and can learn quick. Listen I know a little about this business and some of these owner squeeze every penny they can out of this business including their employees from the door fee, charging them rent which is very greedy sometimes charging them gas fee to be driven somewhere and will make the girls feel intimidated to ask for time off. As far as this area if these owners would get off their high horse and lazy ass and hire some hot girls and teach them how to keep a low profile because of the issues we have had they will attract us back into the store. Believe me there are A LOT of hot girls out there that know these rules BUT the owner HAS TO treat them right to attract them more importantly keep them. Done right the massage license cat and mouse game is only a formality, you think all these AAMP girls have license? These owners egos and greed are their biggest problem. I'm not saying all owners are like this, but just look around and you can get an idea of who fits the profile. Like grandpa said take care of your tools they will take care of you.
[QUOTE=Editit;3499322]To them it is ALL ABOUT MONEY. Money they rarely put back into this economy.[/QUOTE]I am a bit confused by this. They eat (groceries, restaurants) They drive cars (gas / maintenance). I have seen one of my favorites at a local mall (She was alone and we laughed and talked for a bit). The women don't go into stasis pods until needed, so I am a bit confused by the whole local economy thing. Sure they save up and go to "New York" from time to time. I just want to get a good back rub from someone I know with great endings.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3499490]BUT I put a lot of the decline blame on the store owners for being greedy and lazy. There are hundreds of girls looking for jobs that these owners know exactly where to find. Some of these girls are young hot and eager to work. Some have experience some are fresh off the plane but are still mighty fine looking and can learn quick. Listen I know a little about this business and some of these owner squeeze every penny they can out of this business including their employees from the door fee, charging them rent which is very greedy sometimes charging them gas fee to be driven somewhere and will make the girls feel intimidated to ask for time off. As far as this area if these owners would get off their high horse and lazy ass and hire some hot girls and teach them how to keep a low profile because of the issues we have had they will attract us back into the store.[/QUOTE]Yes, the owners are mostly to blame. For example; an owner wants two girls working so no customers will be turned away. However the owner will come in late and take three or four customers away from the girls and leave in the afternoon. The owner not only gets all the house money but all the tip money. Sure it's their business but the girls will get mad since they work 12's everday plus live in the store while still having to pay daily rent. Throw in the fact that the owner monitors the video feed and can listen to the conversations at the desk and in the break room. Oh, and how about the owner's boyfriend who constantly harass the girls for massages and extras. The girls don't feel appreciated and are squeezed every which way by the owners because of greed. This area needs one good AMP that keeps a clean store by washing the towels, washing the TS room and hiring girls with massage skills between the ages 30 - 35 and business would boom as long if the location was right.
[QUOTE=HookyPooky;3489626]Well said another point to add as a former NYer and Atlien. Competition breeds quality. In NY asking for a tug isn't even required its par for the course in every parlor I've visited. I still do my research before hitting a spot but for the most part especially in NY there isn't a need. There are so many of them if the chicks don't oblige then there is a price to pay. Atlanta is hit or miss depending on the area but even though I was born and raised in NY my first experience was in GA.[/QUOTE]I have visited Flushing before and while walking down Roosevelt Ave I stopped in a salon which had a massage operation in the basement. Nothing but sheets for walls and a door, but I got an excellent 1 hour massage from a girl in her 20's for just $20 with no HE. Yes, an excellent $20 massage and I tipped $25.
In my travels I've found that some geographic locations; competition tends to either offer better prices or better quality, but usually not both. In areas that have a higher concentration of Asians like Los Angeles, San Fran or NYC is where you will find both: a) quality, because the ladies want to be close to home and b) lower prices, because there is an AMP on every street catering to the all the white collar workers and tourists. In most other cities, like Raleigh, the Asian population is very small and everything is spread out so the few stores that do operate don't feel they are competing so they are not picky on quality and the prices are higher.
[QUOTE=Purple45;3500432]I have visited Flushing before and while walking down Roosevelt Ave I stopped in a salon which had a massage operation in the basement. Nothing but sheets for walls and a door, but I got an excellent 1 hour massage from a girl in her 20's for just $20 with no HE. Yes, an excellent $20 massage and I tipped $25.
In my travels I've found that some geographic locations; competition tends to either offer better prices or better quality, but usually not both. In areas that have a higher concentration of Asians like Los Angeles, San Fran or NYC is where you will find both: a) quality, because the ladies want to be close to home and b) lower prices, because there is an AMP on every street catering to the all the white collar workers and tourists. In most other cities, like Raleigh, the Asian population is very small and everything is spread out so the few stores that do operate don't feel they are competing so they are not picky on quality and the prices are higher.[/QUOTE]Showing these two statistics because of the similarities in population. Here's a comparison of just "ONE" city compared to Raleigh. Miami Fl population 453,000 - Raleigh NC population 458,000 - Raleigh Massage establishments count them on one hand! Miami 76 stores that I'm aware of that are listed. Come on, cut the Miami number in half its still ridiculous. Hummm welcome to the Bible Belt Area fella's. Just look at the report below about 0044, when's the last time we got all giddy about a place like WestGate or hell even got giddy about a single girl at any place. Again these owners around here better wise up if they want to make a buck for themselves other than the landlord or even stay in business.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3500599]Showing these two statistics because of the similarities in population. Here's a comparison of just "ONE" city compared to Raleigh. Miami Fl population 453,000 - Raleigh NC population 458,000 - Raleigh Massage establishments count them on one hand! Miami 76 stores that I'm aware of that are listed. Come on, cut the Miami number in half its still ridiculous. Hummm welcome to the Bible Belt Area fella's. Just look at the report below about 0044, when's the last time we got all giddy about a place like WestGate or hell even got giddy about a single girl at any place. Again these owners around here better wise up if they want to make a buck for themselves other than the landlord or even stay in business.[/QUOTE]Miami is a unique city that benefits by being the Hispanic Capital of the world and a major port of entry into the United States. The city numbers are true however its the metropolitan area numbers, tourism numbers and world economic ranking that blows Raleigh away. An urban area with that populous and economic footprint plus the "Fun in the Sun" lifestyle will support that many AMPs.
Miami Metropolitan: 5. 5 million vs Raleigh Metropolitan: 1. 21 million.
Miami Tourism Revenue: 25.6 billion vs Raleigh Tourism Revenue: 2. 33 billion.
Miami Purchasing Power: 7th in World vs Raleigh Purchasing Power: Not Ranked.
Think to compare Raleigh to Miami. Go response post.
[QUOTE=Purple45;3501701]Miami is a unique city that benefits by being the Hispanic Capital of the world and a major port of entry into the United States. The city numbers are true however its the metropolitan area numbers, tourism numbers and world economic ranking that blows Raleigh away. A city with that populous and economic footprint plus the "Fun in the Sun" lifestyle will support that many AMPs.
Miami Metropolitan: 5. 5 million vs Raleigh Metropolitan: 1. 21 million.
Miami Tourism Revenue: 25.6 billion vs Raleigh Tourism Revenue: 2. 33 billion.
Miami Purchasing Power: 7th in World vs Raleigh Purchasing Power: Not Ranked.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnDagger;3501743]Think to compare Raleigh to Miami. Go response post.[/QUOTE]Exactly that's my point! I could have compared Raleigh to Manhattan (where they have stores open 24/7) or wherever. I recently compared Raleigh to Charlotte which obviously does not have 76 stores and is no where near Miami or Manhattan. Point being this area is dead and there is no incentive for others to rebuild the Massage business, they are going "where the money is". Raleigh is just one big Mayberry it's not developed the way the bigger cities are. Oh there's plenty of white collar workers that sit in traffic on 40 everyday with disposable cash that use to frequent these stores. But these owners are either lazy, greedy or paranoid probably all 3, but they do count every penny walking in the door. But my main point is the owners building the stores that deliver the goods are not putting that money here that's for sure. Hense you can count Raleigh's stores on one hand. However 76 stores would be nice here but I would be on food stamps in a few months. Whew at least somebody's reading the post and voicing there opinion. We have some smart members.
More focus by the news. GeeZ did you know that some of the massage folks couldn't speak English. The Massage Board is behind some of this based upon past posts. The system is rigged against those that are trying. I am sure there is some truth to human trafficking. But I haven't seen it in my limited visits and interaction with providers.
Get really tired of making trump fake news.
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