Rants, Raves, and Opinions

[QUOTE=Flattopper;3755647]When ever I've gotten a referral to see someone, I've felt that its to your advantage not to reveal the price point to the provider. I don't even say who the referral is from, unless they specidically ask. It makes sense that she will try to get the highest bid for her services. So. She quotes you 150, and you know she'll do 80, don't let her know that you know that. You just busted your negotiation. Haggle a little, and see if you can talk her down. She knows she'll take 80 if push comes to shove. Maybe you end up at 100, because her cicumstances are different than the day she took 80. Or because you haven't seen her 5 times like the other guy. Plus. If you strong arm the negotiation down to her lowest price, how likely is it that the service will even be good. When I agree to a bargain priced deal in my business, I'm a little salty when doing the work. I just want to get it done and over.[/QUOTE]You stated it perfectly; the art of negotiation. You know what her lowest price point is and you get as close to that as you can. But the LOWEST price might be for the monger who's seeing her once or twice a week. But don't burn the bridge of the monger who was kind enough to give you that info.

IFrom what I'm reading what your paying a street walker is way to much. I seen up to a 100 bucks. I wouldn't even pay someone off back page / Craigslist that much.

I came up out of Orlando and never paid more then 20 to get laid. 10 for a BJ. Normally was no problem finding someone. They were not super models but still got the job done.

[QUOTE=Cyngen;3768386]IFrom what I'm reading what your paying a street walker is way to much. I seen up to a 100 bucks. I wouldn't even pay someone off back page / Craigslist that much.

I came up out of Orlando and never paid more then 20 to get laid. 10 for a BJ. Normally was no problem finding someone. They were not super models but still got the job done.[/QUOTE]You're not in Orlando any more, Toto. Similar to your conversations on the Madison thread, you need to accept the reality of where you are now. It's partially a matter of being in a huge enforcement period that started last summer and still continues. Saturation patrols, LEO on bicycles that can cover a lot of ground quickly and quietly. The Milwaukee areas, on the South side anyway, are pretty small, send 2 cops over to just park on the side of the road for an hour, one between 11th and 14th on Greenfield and another between 20th and 25th and everything grinds to a stop. Most of those that were around a year or two ago are in jail, rehab or laying low, seeing only regulars. A few, sadly, are dead. Again, this isn't Orlando. The numbers are small and LEO knows them all, making it easy to target them.

I've been doing this for 25 years and don't recall a time it was ever 10/20. For a long time it was 20/40 and you can still find that at times, but the expectations have gone up for many to 20/40 plus a tip and today I many just expect the tip and ask 30/50. The habits most carry drive that. Boy is 20 a package and Girl can be had for 10. They get 30 from you they can score both. With a tip they can get a pack of smokes and a bag of chips too. That'll get them through the next 4-6 hours until they need to do it again. If they can get 50-60 for FS, it holds them for 8-12 hours. That's the economics of someone on the streets in Milwaukee. Oh, bet we can find you a 10 BBBJ or 20 FS, but be ready for her to be 250 lbs, have horrid hygiene and lackluster service to boot. When you've only got 10 or 15 ladies working the South Loops with any regularity, most of whom I wouldn't fuck with your dick, it's a sellers market.

Just accept the fact that you're not in warm, sunny Orlando with plenty of supply; you're in Conservative WI with a limited supply, people that aren't afraid to complain to their aldermen, Alderman that aren't afraid to pressure the LEO and a PD moving toward community policing and believing that the way to stop large crime is cracking down on small crime to make the community more attractive. Welcome to the MidWest bro.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3770436]You're not in Orlando any more, Toto. Similar to your conversations on the Madison thread, you need to accept the reality of where you are now. It's partially a matter of being in a huge enforcement period that started last summer and still continues. Saturation patrols, LEO on bicycles that can cover a lot of ground quickly and quietly. The Milwaukee areas, on the South side anyway, are pretty small, send 2 cops over to just park on the side of the road for an hour, one between 11th and 14th on Greenfield and another between 20th and 25th and everything grinds to a stop. Most of those that were around a year or two ago are in jail, rehab or laying low, seeing only regulars. A few, sadly, are dead. Again, this isn't Orlando. The numbers are small and LEO knows them all, making it easy to target them.

I've been doing this for 25 years and don't recall a time it was ever 10/20. For a long time it was 20/40 and you can still find that at times, but the expectations have gone up for many to 20/40 plus a tip and today I many just expect the tip and ask 30/50. The habits most carry drive that. Boy is 20 a package and Girl can be had for 10. They get 30 from you they can score both. With a tip they can get a pack of smokes and a bag of chips too. That'll get them through the next 4-6 hours until they need to do it again. If they can get 50-60 for FS, it holds them for 8-12 hours. That's the economics of someone on the streets in Milwaukee. Oh, bet we can find you a 10 BBBJ or 20 FS, but be ready for her to be 250 lbs, have horrid hygiene and lackluster service to boot. When you've only got 10 or 15 ladies working the South Loops with any regularity, most of whom I wouldn't fuck with your dick, it's a sellers market..[/QUOTE]Superbly stated my man! You'd make an excellent Chamber of Commerce for the Wisconsin hobby.

Can't be the only one that's noticed this, but anyone else want some objectivity in reviews? Like sometimes I see a review that's just glowing about a provider only to later find out that she is actually overweight, giant scars, stretch marks, or a drug addict, etc. I get that to each their own, but isn't this stuff that's worth mentioning? I mean, great if she gives great head, but isn't it also relevant if she smells like garbage or there was a guy hiding in the bathroom? Sometimes these reviews look like paid advertisements or I'm wondering if the person reviewing has the right glasses. Not all, but some of these posts read like the woman behind the door is going to be a supermodel or something. Like cmon. Again, I get to each their own, no issue with that. Just want people to be a little more realistic and forthcoming.

And why is it that people feel the need to say PM me if you want to meet this provider (who posts ads on other sites)? Why not just post the ad or contact info in your post? Don't get why someone has to go through you for the info? I'm not talking about UTRs or anything, I'm talking about girls who literally post ads on other sites with their number / contact info on the ad and everything.

It's also weird how sometimes members here will post, "Provider X is available today for incall". It's like, can she not make an ad herself? Are you her pimp or something? LOL.

And is it so hard to post the ad or website of the provider you're reviewing for contact info? They're like 5 leahs, kendalls, and jaimies LOL.

Note: This is just a rant. Please don't get butthurt and reply or PM me arguing.

[QUOTE=TheCondor7;3772474]Can't be the only one that's noticed this, but anyone else want some objectivity in reviews? Like sometimes I see a review that's just glowing about a provider only to later find out that she is actually overweight, giant scars, stretch marks, or a drug addict, etc. I get that to each their own, but isn't this stuff that's worth mentioning? I mean, great if she gives great head, but isn't it also relevant if she smells like garbage or there was a guy hiding in the bathroom? Sometimes these reviews look like paid advertisements or I'm wondering if the person reviewing has the right glasses. Not all, but some of these posts read like the woman behind the door is going to be a supermodel or something. Like cmon. Again, I get to each their own, no issue with that. Just want people to be a little more realistic and forthcoming.

And why is it that people feel the need to say PM me if you want to meet this provider (who posts ads on other sites)? Why not just post the ad or contact info in your post? Don't get why someone has to go through you for the info? I'm not talking about UTRs or anything, I'm talking about girls who literally post ads on other sites with their number / contact info on the ad and everything.

It's also weird how sometimes members here will post, "Provider X is available today for incall". It's like, can she not make an ad herself? Are you her pimp or something? LOL.

And is it so hard to post the ad or website of the provider you're reviewing for contact info? They're like 5 leahs, kendalls, and jaimies LOL.

Note: This is just a rant. Please don't get butthurt and reply or PM me arguing.[/QUOTE]1. I haven't been surprised at all with the girls I've seen based on information here. One thing I've learned is that people have their preferences and their own styles- I know OFG and I rate girls pretty much on the same scale; if he is willing to bring her back for seconds she is worth me cooking for. Some have different desires, and I may like what they do not. It's kinda like sports announcers; in that some people actually like Joe Buck calling the Packer games.

2. Well if there ad is on another site, feel free to use it. Some girls just may have multiple numbers (eg Ari / Leah18), one of which is public info and the other not so much. If the rates are lower or prioritized or more trusted when the "less known" number is used is another story.

3. Sometimes girls don't want to post a public ad as they only want to deal with regulars or known community members.

4. That can be frustrating. I refer to the Leahs as Leah18, Leah22, and Leah25; based on their age when they all appeared 3 years ago. Leah18 is pushing 21 now and was Ari. Leah 22 is known as East Side Leah. Never dabbled with Leah25.

[QUOTE=TheCondor7;3772474]Can't be the only one that's noticed this, but anyone else want some objectivity in reviews? Like sometimes I see a review that's just glowing about a provider only to later find out that she is actually overweight, giant scars, stretch marks, or a drug addict, etc. I get that to each their own, but isn't this stuff that's worth mentioning? I mean, great if she gives great head, but isn't it also relevant if she smells like garbage or there was a guy hiding in the bathroom? Sometimes these reviews look like paid advertisements or I'm wondering if the person reviewing has the right glasses. Not all, but some of these posts read like the woman behind the door is going to be a supermodel or something. Like cmon. Again, I get to each their own, no issue with that. Just want people to be a little more realistic and forthcoming.

And why is it that people feel the need to say PM me if you want to meet this provider (who posts ads on other sites)? Why not just post the ad or contact info in your post? Don't get why someone has to go through you for the info? I'm not talking about UTRs or anything, I'm talking about girls who literally post ads on other sites with their number / contact info on the ad and everything.

It's also weird how sometimes members here will post, "Provider X is available today for incall". It's like, can she not make an ad herself? Are you her pimp or something? LOL.

And is it so hard to post the ad or website of the provider you're reviewing for contact info? They're like 5 leahs, kendalls, and jaimies LOL.

Note: This is just a rant. Please don't get butthurt and reply or PM me arguing.[/QUOTE]I understand your rant, and I'm good with it. The report I had of Carmen I did 2 things wrong. I didn't mention the baby damage, I didn't even think about it when I posted (Mi bad) I didn't do it to try and slide one by ya guys. Second thing was a link. I normarly would copy and paste one. Didn't even think about it at the time.

I've read plenty of reviews and then seen them and thought to myself "clearly all that dudes taste is in his mouth". I try to be objective when I post a report, but I have my own opinions on what I'm looking for out of my date. If those get met I'm going to give a good report. If someone else sees her and its not what they expected, sorry to hear that. I look on the other site and very few are consistantly great. My atf's reviews are all over the place but every time I saw her it was great (save a couple).

I'm not arguing with you on anything you stated. I understand if I leave feeling like I had a great time I'm going to leave a glowing report, and yes its been a while since I had my eyes checked. I'm over due for new glasses.

[QUOTE=TheCondor7;3772474]Can't be the only one that's noticed this, but anyone else want some objectivity in reviews? Like sometimes I see a review that's just glowing about a provider only to later find out that she is actually overweight, giant scars, stretch marks, or a drug addict, etc. I get that to each their own, but isn't this stuff that's worth mentioning? I mean, great if she gives great head, but isn't it also relevant if she smells like garbage or there was a guy hiding in the bathroom? Sometimes these reviews look like paid advertisements or I'm wondering if the person reviewing has the right glasses. Not all, but some of these posts read like the woman behind the door is going to be a supermodel or something. Like cmon. Again, I get to each their own, no issue with that. Just want people to be a little more realistic and forthcoming.

And why is it that people feel the need to say PM me if you want to meet this provider (who posts ads on other sites)? Why not just post the ad or contact info in your post? Don't get why someone has to go through you for the info? I'm not talking about UTRs or anything, I'm talking about girls who literally post ads on other sites with their number / contact info on the ad and everything.

It's also weird how sometimes members here will post, "Provider X is available today for incall". It's like, can she not make an ad herself? Are you her pimp or something? LOL.

And is it so hard to post the ad or website of the provider you're reviewing for contact info? They're like 5 leahs, kendalls, and jaimies LOL.

Note: This is just a rant. Please don't get butthurt and reply or PM me arguing.[/QUOTE]I get it, when I have posted, I try to include everything, but sometimes I just forget some and then edit to realize I forgot something else. Guess its my bad planning.

[QUOTE=WizardOfAahs;3772538]1. I haven't been surprised at all with the girls I've seen based on information here. One thing I've learned is that people have their preferences and their own styles- I know OFG and I rate girls pretty much on the same scale; if he is willing to bring her back for seconds she is worth me cooking for. Some have different desires, and I may like what they do not. It's kinda like sports announcers; in that some people actually like Joe Buck calling the Packer games.

2. Well if there ad is on another site, feel free to use it. Some girls just may have multiple numbers (eg Ari / Leah18), one of which is public info and the other not so much. If the rates are lower or prioritized or more trusted when the "less known" number is used is another story.

3. Sometimes girls don't want to post a public ad as they only want to deal with regulars or known community members.

4. That can be frustrating. I refer to the Leahs as Leah18, Leah22, and Leah25; based on their age when they all appeared 3 years ago. Leah18 is pushing 21 now and was Ari. Leah 22 is known as East Side Leah. Never dabbled with Leah25.[/QUOTE]You lost me at. "Some people actually like Joe Buck calling the Packer Games". Jk there has to be one, right? Remember when he cried about the petition to get him banned from packer games?

If you are going to post, make it worth while. Name or link of her ad. Something substantial, also, can we stay on topic? That is why there are different categories, some of you sound like high school girls in your rants about this that and the other thing. It sucks when I'm in the Escort Reports, and someone is talking about burner phones. Check yourself and please get on topic. Thank you, this concludes my rant, in the rant section.

Hears a rant getting half way to my regular with a Viagra indused boner and getting a text that she has to cancel. (actually had a good excuse) then having to scramble around to find somewhere to go with my chubby other then in my hand. Had to go to the loop, been like 20 years since I have been there. Getting to old for car date shit.

[QUOTE=Asianfever69;3773182]If you are going to post, make it worth while. Name or link of her ad. Something substantial, also, can we stay on topic? That is why there are different categories, some of you sound like high school girls in your rants about this that and the other thing. It sucks when I'm in the Escort Reports, and someone is talking about burner phones. Check yourself and please get on topic. Thank you, this concludes my rant, in the rant section.[/QUOTE]And "dreams" enough with the dreams already. Everyone knows what this form is about.

[QUOTE=GPSlikesy;3774604]And "dreams" enough with the dreams already. Everyone knows what this form is about.[/QUOTE]Here here! I dislike the whole "dream" thing too. I know, people are doing what they think is right to protect themselves and the provider.

BUT.

You could post my gramma's picture here, her birth and married name, her social security number and her current and last three addresses, and there's not a fucking thing any law enforcement could do with that info. This is all "third party" information and doesn't count for shit in making an arrest or prosecuting in court. Besides, my gramma is the shittiest lay I've ever had, so it wouldn't do much to promote her either. So if you've got some good info, please, don't laden it with the unnecessary "dream" contrivance. Please.

Coochie (not dreamin') Eater.

God bless you all.

P.S. Gramma aint so bad with her teeth out. YMMV. Won't repeat.

Wasn't sure which thread would be best to post this in, so I figured this one would be as good as any.

I came across this "Bad Date Sheet" on Craigslist Missed Connections this morning. Some interesting stories in it.

[URL]http://mkebaddatesheet.blog(remove)spot.com[/URL]/.

Take out "(remove)" from the link.

[QUOTE=MrFantastic;3778623]Wasn't sure which thread would be best to post this in, so I figured this one would be as good as any.

I came across this "Bad Date Sheet" on Craigslist Missed Connections this morning. Some interesting stories in it.

[URL]http://mkebaddatesheet.blog(remove)spot.com[/URL]/.

Take out "(remove)" from the link.[/QUOTE]I looked through the last yar or so and most of them are AA on the southside. Didn't sound like a good area before but that sounds worse.