"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Ok got profile set up on SA have burner phone. Question will the site accept prepaid credit cards and can my URL computer number be traced. Thanks you can pm me for any other tricks I haven't thought of.

I always you a gift card. Register it with your alter ego on the cards website and you are good to go.

As far as tracing your computer- if someone wants to bad enough, everything is traceable.

[QUOTE=Cowboy1966;2654472]Ok got profile set up on SA have burner phone. Question will the site accept prepaid credit cards and can my URL computer number be traced. Thanks you can pm me for any other tricks I haven't thought of.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cowboy1966;2654472]Ok got profile set up on SA have burner phone. Question will the site accept prepaid credit cards and can my URL computer number be traced. Thanks you can pm me for any other tricks I haven't thought of.[/QUOTE]The ZIP used to register the card must match the ZIP used in SA payment page other details do not matter. If you do not want anyone with access to your computer find out about your SA activity then use private browsing or incognito mode of your browser.

If you do not want SA or your ISP to know then use a VPN service (better to use a paid service) that anonymizes all your internet activity. I use Torguard but not for SA rather for accessing torrents!

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2653964]It is not surprising that DC SBs expect more sugar given the fact that the DC metro area has the highest average income in the country. What else can one expect with all the lobbyists throwing money around to get favors and what not from the govt.

I titled this post "tax dollars" since that is the only source of wealth in DC![/QUOTE]Agreed. I witnessed first hand a SB being spoiled with cash. I ended up on a weird SB / SD double date. The girl was a ripe 21 and the guy had to be mid-50's. From what I could tell he paid her rent, gave her a couple grand in allowance and they'd taken a couple of vacations.

Some of these outrageous Sugar stories are true. It takes a chemistry for some of the spinners to fall in line with more of a GF / SO. Rich boyfriend type of arrangement. These girls learn quickly how they rank in the hierarchy. For the right guy, they'll FC with normal dates and gifts. Some girls are hardened and see the SB / SD dates as excitement and a getaway. If some cash is exchanged it's a plus. I'd recommend feeling out a POT as much as possible to get to your end goal. Then you'd just weed out the ones that hold no value.

[QUOTE=MulchMan;2654278]We need to keep things in check to avoid kitty inflation.[/QUOTE]LOL. Good one. Post of the week.

Will email updates shortly.

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Cheers.

[QUOTE=CaneBay;2654453]Since I no longer have a GF / SB its time to start looking for a new girl. I activated SA late last week with the intention of doing some searches and favoring some profiles to start messaging this week. First night I marked about 30 profiles as favorites and sent no messages. Next morning I had 16 messages- 11 from favorites, 3 from girls I looked at and didn't favorite and two international scams. Of course I replied and started messaging over the weekend. From the 14 messages I now have 4 solid POTS wanting to meet this week. I sent no initial messages. I still have 30+ candidates that I can message if these 4 fall through plus the endless supply of hot babies signing up every week.

I have forgotten how easy this can be. There are so many jerk SD's that a nice good looking successful guy that treats these babies with respect and always wants the best for them really pays off.

I look between Bristol TN and Atlanta GA. Although I am flush with "baby cash" right now (I was preparing to move my previous GF / SB and pay all of her bills so we could really date- see previous post) I do not offer real money to these girls, I am looking for the baby that wants to see me, has an incredible time with me and I can help make her life easier- in other words, a baby that wants the experience and not strictly looking for cash. My next SB / GF is definitely going to have a great time![/QUOTE]

You know when you mentioned you don't give cash, but cover bills has me thinking that might be a good idea. If I adjusted to this approach I could at least avoid the awkward placing of money in her purse sort of thing. I could have her set up Google Wallet, or better yet how exactly do you cover the bills. Do you have her give them to you? Or have her screen shot them to you then you pay? Or another way?

DC & NYC are terrible markets for guys who aren't able to provide allowances of practical or higher. Forget about per date allowances with the higher end ladies.

I've had a number of dates with girls that have new profiles who after a week or two change their profiles from negotiable to moderate, high, or substantial. The high end ladies can do this because there are plenty of guys in those markets who have cash to burn. I m&ged with a lady in DC who had only been on the site for two weeks and had received offers of $1-4 k for just an evening. She didn't appear to be lying about it because she didn't even try to negotiate up what I considered a truly lowball allowance, which I had thrown out as my starting point. She truly is in the game for experiences with certain kinds of guys who fall into her wheel house. Of course for every one of these kinds of girls, there are 100 Gps ladies who are in it for the cash.

Fret not though, because while there are plenty of guys out there that can afford these crazy allowances, the pool is still relatively limited. If a pot hangs out on the site long enough, she will eventually exhaust the pool. As they say, timing is everything.

Sadly though, at that point, after having been run through by the guys who have that kind of cash to burn, assuming she is still around on the site (so many of them drop after their first encounter with what the site is really all about), she will probably be less of a innocent baby looking for new experiences, and more of a utr semi pro. And if that's what we wanted, it would be easier to find on backpage.

So the trick is to focus on the really new ones before the whales get a chance to take a crack at them, and then quickly take them off the market before the pot / baby knows exactly what is out there. Or alternatively wait until she runs out of other options and swoop in before she turns into a backpage girl.

[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2652702]Yes some might have dollar signs in there eyes but there are plenty of reasonable babies out there. Every market is different, of course. Some of you may have to recalibrate your own expectations. I never had much luck with HWGs lowball offers here in DC, but a little higher works just fine. And hell, if you have any game you will find there are plenty of women who are actually looking for sex and fun. The fact that you are a rich successful man is what matters, not so much whether you are sharing it.

This time around, DC continues to be a tough market. Numbers of available women look high, but plenty of UTR girls, unreasonably high expectations, flakes, etc. I also get the impression that there is plenty of sugar supply out there for them. Lots of unreturned messages, very little initiating on their part. Contrast with Boston, where all I had to do was favorite a girl and she would approach me.[/QUOTE]

I know it's been a while since I last posted so I'll first apologize for being a lurker and not a contributor. It's not that I've even been that busy, just not much interesting to report.

But thought I'd chime in on the SB rates and what I have discovered after being in this SB market off and on for several years.

I think the whole Balt / DC area all the way down to Richmond has been inflated over the past few years. I have made arrangements with several nice SDs over the years and stretched my limit to $200 to $250 to accommodate some of the best ones, only to lose them after a few dates to assumably higher paying SDs. Of course, it could have been younger, hotter SDs that won them over, but all the way til the final date there was no indication of issues, so it's hard to tell the reason.

I just found one of the sweetest 20 year olds that I've ever met on the site. She asked for $300 to $500 but has agreed to a little under that range. Holding them in that $100 to $150 range seems to be a problem, at least for me. I'd love to have HWGs game, looks, or market, whatever magic he has; but it just has not worked for me to me truthful.

For now though, I'm a happy SD with a few more hot dates to look forward to. At least until someone throws more allowance at her and then it's off to the SA site again.

Alias.

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2655244]DC & NYC are terrible markets for guys who aren't able to provide allowances of practical or higher. Forget about per date allowances with the higher end ladies.

I've had a number of dates with girls that have new profiles who after a week or two change their profiles from negotiable to moderate, high, or substantial. The high end ladies can do this because there are plenty of guys in those markets who have cash to burn. .[/QUOTE]I've noticed that these girls all come back on the site after working their way through some whales -as you call them. The thing is -we guys like variety. So even if I pay some 10/10 $500+ / Pop, I will have every girl on the site available to me, and I will tire of the same pussy after a few months. She might be a ten but there are dozens more out there to bang. And there are not that many guys who can / will spend Moderate or more for multiple babies. So these spoiled Brats reenter the market expecting a whale every time and are lucky to get a minnow. Hang in there Bros and the girls will either come back around, become UTRs, or quit the Bowl.

So either catch them early, or late. They'll be there.

DC -2 yrs ago I had a 7/8 student in an apartment of her own -thanks (real) Daddy, with no financial stresses. She hosted me to spend the night once / week for $250. We did dinner, hung out in her apartment, and slept the night away -after recreation of course. So they are there for the taking. The key for her was the 7 . I was attracted to her -why not? She had a sweet pussy. But she was not a 10 ,and was insecure enough to appreciate what she had -a long term Daddy to give her spending money and satisfy her sexual cravings.

Hollywood success: The thing is -his target audience are AA girls. He himself argues that they are not every body's cup of tea, so I think supply and demand works a little better for that demographic. I also am sure he has game, looks, etc, which never hurts.

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2655244]DC & NYC are terrible markets for guys who aren't able to provide allowances of practical or higher. Forget about per date allowances with the higher end ladies.[/QUOTE]I have had no trouble finding quality women in DC, Chicago or NYC willing to meet for $3-400 per date and $5-700 for an overnight fuck fest.

Since I am visiting these cities, they know there is no LT prospect of an allowance, so they probably see me while they fish for allowance providers.

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2655599]I have had no trouble finding quality women in DC, Chicago or NYC willing to meet for $3-400 per date and $5-700 for an overnight fuck fest.

Since I am visiting these cities, they know there is no LT prospect of an allowance, so they probably see me while they fish for allowance providers.[/QUOTE]I DO think $3-400 / pop is expensive-certainly $700 even overnight. If you can drop that kind of dough no sweat good for you. But on a regular basis needing to drain the tanks at least twice / week if not more, that kind of investment adds up to $2-3000 / month minimum plus date expenses. You might be a whale Archer that the other guys are talking about.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2655680]I DO think $3-400 / pop is expensive-certainly $700 even overnight. [/QUOTE]My dates are 3-5 hours. Drinks, maybe dinner (usually room service after round 1) and a midnight departure. Have only had one date that was not 3+ pops and nearly every gal was all access and certainly more fun than any pro I have been with.

Hotel is already paid for, just getting more use out of it than someone striking out low-balling girls at $150 a meeting.

$700 for an overnight in NYC is expensive? Other major cities were 5 or 6, and that included before AND after breakfast banging.

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2655803]My dates are 3-5 hours. Drinks, maybe dinner (usually room service after round 1) and a midnight departure. Have only had one date that was not 3+ pops and nearly every gal was all access and certainly more fun than any pro I have been with.

Hotel is already paid for, just getting more use out of it than someone striking out low-balling girls at $150 a meeting.

$700 for an overnight in NYC is expensive? Other major cities were 5 or 6, and that included before AND after breakfast banging.[/QUOTE]Compared to escorts a fabulous deal -no doubt. I'm in my SD mode all the time. There are ample numbers of good -enough ladies for my lower price point where ever I am, so that is my reality. I must say I haven't shopped in NYC for pussy before.

I give cash- I ask what bills can I help with above the weekly amount. Sorry for the confusion.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2655018]You know when you mentioned you don't give cash, but cover bills has me thinking that might be a good idea. If I adjusted to this approach I could at least avoid the awkward placing of money in her purse sort of thing. I could have her set up Google Wallet, or better yet how exactly do you cover the bills. Do you have her give them to you? Or have her screen shot them to you then you pay? Or another way?[/QUOTE]