[QUOTE=Illside667;3427508]Does anyone know if she is out of the game for now? I have left a couple messages over the past few weeks with no return call. I hope not she is my ATF.[/QUOTE]Her quote:
"Had hand surgery and am off for summer, sorry".
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[QUOTE=Illside667;3427508]Does anyone know if she is out of the game for now? I have left a couple messages over the past few weeks with no return call. I hope not she is my ATF.[/QUOTE]Her quote:
"Had hand surgery and am off for summer, sorry".
Been to VIP several times in the last couple of months. Same as everyone else has reported. Nice tease and left happy each time. No mention of tip. Paid for hour to house and tipped accordingly.
Based on Frog's post below, I was in the mood so I too stopped by VIP. Unfortunately, I again drew "sasha" as the masseuse. Again no teasing, and I resigned myself to another disappointing visit. Then half way through back rub she takes sheet off. I get excieted. But still no teasing at all.
On the flip, continues uncovered and I am confused LOL. Eventually, out of nowhere she asks if I want. Of course I say sure. Very mechanical and wasnt going to get the job done so I helped out.
Was very conflicted on tip. On one hand there was none of the teasing or playfullness that I really enjoy and that makes massage my cup of tea. On the other hand, she gave it a try and I wanted to encourage that.
To top if off. She meets me out front with a bottle of water and the guy at the desk asks me. Did she do good? I am to nice a guy to throw anyone under the bus so I said she did. But I will still recommend that you all avoid sasha for one of the other ladies if you can.
[QUOTE=Joshstl;3429055]Based on Frog's post below, I was in the mood so I too stopped by VIP. Unfortunately, I again drew "sasha" as the masseuse. Again no teasing, and I resigned myself to another disappointing visit. Then half way through back rub she takes sheet off. I get excieted. But still no teasing at all.
On the flip, continues uncovered and I am confused LOL. Eventually, out of nowhere she asks if I want. Of course I say sure. Very mechanical and wasnt going to get the job done so I helped out.
Was very conflicted on tip. On one hand there was none of the teasing or playfullness that I really enjoy and that makes massage my cup of tea. On the other hand, she gave it a try and I wanted to encourage that.
To top if off. She meets me out front with a bottle of water and the guy at the desk asks me. Did she do good? I am to nice a guy to throw anyone under the bus so I said she did. But I will still recommend that you all avoid sasha for one of the other ladies if you can.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately the "A" team that started the place are all back home in California and won't be returning. That includes Annie, Tina, and Lillie, but it was fun while it lasted.
It seems the price that independent massage providers want is creeping up, and they all expect a tip, of course. But the problem I have been running into here in STL is that a lot of these ladies are jaded and not very sensual, talking nonstop about all kinds of shit like I came there so she could bend my ear.
Many spend 30 minutes or more doing a "lotion rub" that is far from therapeutic or sexy before the flip, working to a set mechanical routine. Like a checklist.
Quick shoulder rub. Check.
Left arm. Check.
Long time on each leg. Check.
Rub the daylights out of the area of my inner thigh next to my fuel injectors. Check.
Brush against fuel injectors occasionally. Check.
Never stop talking or let me get in the mood. Check.
At 35 minutes, flip, and break out a mediocre set of tits. Check.
No reaction or pause in the mouth engine when she is touched or rubbed. Check.
Rub the old Captain until he is at attention. Check.
Act perplexed when the mechanical performance elicits no joy. Start engine shut down procedure.
I'm thinking I need to find an excellent legit massage therapist, a set of headphones & just utilize Blo-and-Go services. At least I won't have to listen to any talking and I think the cost would be similar.
When they do get to.
[QUOTE=PilotPete;3429552]It seems the price that independent massage providers want is creeping up, and they all expect a tip, of course. But the problem I have been running into here in STL is that a lot of these ladies are jaded and not very sensual, talking nonstop about all kinds of shit like I came there so she could bend my ear.
Many spend 30 minutes or more doing a "lotion rub" that is far from therapeutic or sexy before the flip, working to a set mechanical routine. Like a checklist.
Quick shoulder rub. Check.
Left arm. Check.
Long time on each leg. Check.
Rub the daylights out of the area of my inner thigh next to my fuel injectors. Check.
Brush against fuel injectors occasionally. Check.
Never stop talking or let me get in the mood. Check.
At 35 minutes, flip, and break out a mediocre set of tits. Check.
No reaction or pause in the mouth engine when she is touched or rubbed. Check.
Rub the old Captain until he is at attention. Check.
Act perplexed when the mechanical performance elicits no joy. Start engine shut down procedure.
I'm thinking I need to find an excellent legit massage therapist, a set of headphones & just utilize Blo-and-Go services. At least I won't have to listen to any talking and I think the cost would be similar.
When they do get to.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you just described MsTiffany and / or her sister.
[QUOTE=RocketmanStl;3302829]I have to agree with GolfFan here. While Ashley gives a good therapeutic-type massage, there is no sensuality or teasing whatsoever and the finish was mechanical. She's also not easy on the eyes, first impression is a turn-off. I have seen her three times hoping it would get better, but it actually got worse so I'm done with her.[/QUOTE]Saw this MILF a few weeks ago for the 3rd time and agree the rub is decent but the finish was mechanical. Was able to play with her nice size breasts to help with finish. Agree, nice price point in a pinch. PM with any other details and will share likewise.
[QUOTE=Ritewing;3429904]Sounds like you just described MsTiffany and / or her sister.[/QUOTE]Sharing the intel is the whole point of this board. Gentlemen, please let's continue to share the disappointing experiences and the good ones, with enough detail about what you did or did not like.
Recent STL Disappointing Sessions (see previous post).
Westport Lisa (works weekends "Amazing" in ads).
YGND. Jade & _ (the one in Tower Grove East and the one in Downtown Loft).
St. Charles. Dee.
South City. Kathleen (Mature American Woman).
I have avoided "Unparalleled Excellence & Grace" Tiffany & "Ultimate Massage by Summer" due to solid intel from you gentlemen, and I thank you. Hopefully everyone knows that Amanda of "Amandasminidayspa" offers ZERO sensual services even though she advertises in the Women Seeking Men section.
Fortunately, I travel and the service is much better in many cities / countries. But certainly not all. PilotPete doesn't report on other places, though, since that could leave a bread-crumb trail of dates and locations. I try hard to only see independent ladies to avoid encouraging trafficking, so please share any good local intel & I will do the same.
[QUOTE=PilotPete;3430368]Sharing the intel is the whole point of this board. Gentlemen, please let's continue to share the disappointing experiences and the good ones, with enough detail about what you did or did not like.
Recent STL Disappointing Sessions (see previous post).
Westport Lisa (works weekends "Amazing" in ads).
YGND. Jade & _ (the one in Tower Grove East and the one in Downtown Loft).
St. Charles. Dee.
South City. Kathleen (Mature American Woman).
I have avoided "Unparalleled Excellence & Grace" Tiffany & "Ultimate Massage by Summer" due to solid intel from you gentlemen, and I thank you. Hopefully everyone knows that Amanda of "Amandasminidayspa" offers ZERO sensual services even though she advertises in the Women Seeking Men section.
Fortunately, I travel and the service is much better in many cities / countries. But certainly not all. PilotPete doesn't report on other places, though, since that could leave a bread-crumb trail of dates and locations. I try hard to only see independent ladies to avoid encouraging trafficking, so please share any good local intel & I will do the same.[/QUOTE]I agree that Kathleen is disappointing. She is the same Kathleen that was once off of Schuetz Road near Lindbergh in a private home. Always wants to know if you are 420 friendly and offers to provide if desired. Yes, she's a talker and doesn't provide much of a sensual build up before the HJ finish.
I hope the St. Charles Dee you are referring to is not the famed Oh Dee. She's been deceased for about a year now so I wouldn't expect to see her on a list of recent disappointments. I kind of liked Dee. Her thing was well scripted and never varied much but she was open to some off script activities and I enjoyed that unusually large clit of hers. RIP Dee.
Another recent disappointment for me was the Maplewood Susan. She is now indicating her location as 44 and Ivanhoe. Older used up skinny blonde. You should take a pass on this one.
Finally, I recently had a visit with Vicky, the one who used to work out of the same place as Dee and later moved to the O'Fallon area. A few years ago I found her enjoyable once in a while as an alternative but not an A-list provider. She recently reappeared and is now working out of a private home in the O'Fallon MO area but has slipped significantly in her overall service. No longer on my list.
Has anyone tried this one out?
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/803-229-7764-grand-opening-absolutely-the-best-pro-massage-hot-and-young-asian/27136648[/URL]
Oh Dee was a legend, but is long gone. There is a "new" Dee in St Charles area who works out of her home.
I know this doesn't belong here but because of the several references and only because of the several reviews and references did I know to make a stop on a recent trip to this place in Mt Vernon.
Man we need this place closer to St Louis. I was greeted by a super young hot Asian lady at the door. Her name was summmer. She had to be in her 20's. She had a super thin Asian body and super short cutoffs on. The place is nice, clean, and I felt relaxed the entire time.
The massage was excellent. The attention and teasing fantastic and summers ass felt wonderful. I only felt through her clothes.
She had a technique and skill I've not experienced in St Louis. The big finish comes towards the end but not at the end of the massage. She continues to massage well after the finish. Very relaxing experience.
I will find my way out to this place again. It would be a hike if I didn't have another reason to go that direction.
Thanks to the board for tip!
[URL]http://carbondale.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/yin-yin-spa-excellence-professional-asian-massage/49607577[/URL]
Stopped by today around noon and saw Nina. Left very happy after playing with her erasers!
[QUOTE=PilotPete;3432298]Oh Dee was a legend, but is long gone. There is a "new" Dee in St Charles area who works out of her home.[/QUOTE]Care to share her contact info? I loved seeing the original Dee. She was great.
[QUOTE=Waterboy3;3432779]I know this doesn't belong here but because of the several references and only because of the several reviews and references did I know to make a stop on a recent trip to this place in Mt Vernon.
Man we need this place closer to St Louis. I was greeted by a super young hot Asian lady at the door. Her name was summmer. She had to be in her 20's. She had a super thin Asian body and super short cutoffs on. The place is nice, clean, and I felt relaxed the entire time.
The massage was excellent. The attention and teasing fantastic and summers ass felt wonderful. I only felt through her clothes.
She had a technique and skill I've not experienced in St Louis. The big finish comes towards the end but not at the end of the massage. She continues to massage well after the finish. Very relaxing experience.
[URL]http://carbondale.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/yin-yin-spa-excellence-professional-asian-massage/49607577[/URL][/QUOTE]Do you have anymore details of that technique and finish? Tip? There are a few good reviews on this place in the Carbondale Illinois boards but it's kind of hit or miss. Lots of handshaking has been reported, but my dream ended via DIY w / a cute mid 30's Asian girl and good massage. Normal house rates with no discussion of extras / tipping seems to be the norm and you pay after so you can tip accordingly.