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[QUOTE=Contenthigh;7421145]Sup guys, I'm new to the SD / SB world but wanted to give it a shot. Been reading through this thread and it seems like seeking is the way to go. Other than trying to find an alternate payment method to pay for premium, are there any other things I should know to start things off right?

For example, do you guys use your actual pics for your profile and how much time are you spending to make your account? I know those things make a big difference in normal civi dating apps but not sure if it matters as much in the SD / SB world.

Thanks for your help and hope to post some new stories soon![/QUOTE]First, as far as Seeking's admin and lawyers are concerned, Seeking IS a dating site, though their niche in the dating landscape is for women exercising hypergamy by looking for affluent man. In other words, it's for women who want to "date up. " Seeking reinforces this idea by adding a lot of terms to the TOS against ANY suggestion of P4 P, PPM, compensated dating or even offering financial assistance to women for dating. That means your profile and in-site messages much comply with the TOS. You cannot use any language like "I'll give you $$$ if you stay overnight," or "I want a mutually beneficial arrangement. " Once you get her to messaging offsite (by text, whatsapp, etc.) you can talk more freely.

Next, as of June of this year, Seeking will require you to selfie-validate. So you must use real pics. But once validated, you can blur your face on your main profile pic. You will also be required to use your real first name on the profile. So calling yourself things like "DomDaddy" or "Nine Inch Personality" won't fly.

Next, if you want to preserve some level of anonymity and "OpsSec" there are limited payment options. I am not an expert on those as I disclose my real pics (and identity once I am in contact with a POT SB). You may need to read past posts for better info on alternate payment methods.

I suggest you spend a fair amount of time writing thoughtful profile info. Women on Seeking, especially HOT women can get dozens or even hundreds of messages a week. You will not stand out if you just have a single pic and a one-line profile. The two things a woman wants to know asap when looking at your profile are: 1. Is he safe. Meaning can I trust him to not hurt me, and 2. Can he afford me. Meaning he has cash to spend on me and is not the typical douchebag Chad she meets in a bar or at a rave who works as an Uber driver.

So write enough in your profile to convey you are good guy, and you are comfortable splashing some (not too much!) cheddar on a date.

Finally, get used to rejection, ghosting, and scammers. You may need to look at several dozen profiles to find 8-10 worth messaging. And then you may need to message 10-20 women to find one or two you want to meet and who want to meet you.

Last advice. And this is critical! Never, never, never, never, never send anyone money in advance. Not even $1. 00. You will never see that money again and you will never meet that "woman".

[QUOTE=SecondLove;7422843]First, as far as Seeking's admin and lawyers are concerned, Seeking IS a dating site, though their niche in the dating landscape is for women exercising hypergamy by looking for affluent man. In other words, it's for women who want to "date up. " Seeking reinforces this idea by adding a lot of terms to the TOS against ANY suggestion of P4 P, PPM, compensated dating or even offering financial assistance to women for dating. That means your profile and in-site messages much comply with the TOS. You cannot use any language like "I'll give you $$$ if you stay overnight," or "I want a mutually beneficial arrangement. " Once you get her to messaging offsite (by text, whatsapp, etc.) you can talk more freely.

Next, as of June of this year, Seeking will require you to selfie-validate. So you must use real pics. But once validated, you can blur your face on your main profile pic. You will also be required to use your real first name on the profile. So calling yourself things like "DomDaddy" or "Nine Inch Personality" won't fly.

Next, if you want to preserve some level of anonymity and "OpsSec" there are limited payment options. I am not an expert on those as I disclose my real pics (and identity once I am in contact with a POT SB). You may need to read past posts for better info on alternate payment methods.

I suggest you spend a fair amount of time writing thoughtful profile info. Women on Seeking, especially HOT women can get dozens or even hundreds of messages a week. You will not stand out if you just have a single pic and a one-line profile. The two things a woman wants to know asap when looking at your profile are: 1. Is he safe. Meaning can I trust him to not hurt me, and 2. Can he afford me. Meaning he has cash to spend on me and is not the typical douchebag Chad she meets in a bar or at a rave who works as an Uber driver.

So write enough in your profile to convey you are good guy, and you are comfortable splashing some (not too much!) cheddar on a date.

Finally, get used to rejection, ghosting, and scammers. You may need to look at several dozen profiles to find 8-10 worth messaging. And then you may need to message 10-20 women to find one or two you want to meet and who want to meet you.

Last advice. And this is critical! Never, never, never, never, never send anyone money in advance. Not even $1. 00. You will never see that money again and you will never meet that "woman".[/QUOTE]But how are you aware of the new T&Cs, like the selfie validation? Will that apply just to new accounts or existing ones as well?

[QUOTE=ID481;7422241]The dynamics have changed a lot. These days, older participants often feel the scene is less active and less genuine than before.[/QUOTE]At least Seeking seems to be getting more young booty again, 18 to 20 yr olds. But I'm not dropping 130 a month on the site. I'm giving the competition a try again, [URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL] which is exactly the same site as secret benefits. I've gotten some traction with a couple young baddies. A hot goth White honey and a cute Latina. 19 and 18. The entry price of 60 for 100 credits is alot nicer. Granted you can only message 10 girls with those introductory price credits. So choose wisely and research the girl before initiating contact. I like that your unlocked conversations last forever. Unlike Seeking where you need to constantly have a membership in order to still see your established conversations. Sometimes I've had a couple girls try and reconnect months later. And at 130 a month, which I'd rather put towards arranging some actual fuck meets. It's not a value added site. Plus the whole tip toeing bullshit around watching what you say and possibly getting banned is whack as fuck! On other true sugar sites you can say what the fuck you want on the sites messaging system. PPM? Sure that's fine! Weekly arrangement? Sure be my guest! Plus the other sites have a good amount of young pussy too. So giving it a small try again. I still do reasonably well with my other methods.

[QUOTE=SecondLove;7422843]Never, never, never, never, never send anyone money in advance. Not even $1. 00. You will never see that money again and you will never meet that "woman".[/QUOTE]That woman's name is Pajeet Patel or Ngubu.

This is going to be a big problem as time goes on. I have a couple of photos cut off just at the nose, to give the impression they are for my discretion. They are of someone who looks good and looks like me. When I updated my profile, something happened to these photos. I had one public, one private. Now, both are private, even though when I edit my profile, I have set both to public. When I click on the photos, I get this popup:

Primary Photo Eligibility.

Your head must be in frame.

No overtly sexual material.

No violence.

Read our photo guidelines.

Not only do I have this problem, my main profile photo is just the grey silhouette, and now the button to share photos is gone. In the past 4 hours it was there though. This site is so glitchy, all kinds of stuff goes wrong. You block a profile but it still appears in search, etc. However, I don't want to complain, it will just attract attention from the mods that I don't want. I have two profiles on there, I've been able to keep them for a long time. I don't want to lose them, the requirements they are discussing will keep me and many other married guys off the site.

I recently had to go through my profile and purge all of the things that weren't OK under the Community Standards. This was new. I see many girls profiles that violate them, and I'd bet a lot of you have old profiles that do to. You just don't want to do anything to draw attention to yourself, otherwise they may look at your profile and require you to change it.

[QUOTE=BringItHome;7423139]But how are you aware of the new T&Cs, like the selfie validation? Will that apply just to new accounts or existing ones as well?[/QUOTE]At first they were only requiring it from new accounts. But after about 8 weeks they started showing messages to older accounts at log in asking to get it done. Finally, they changed the message to say your profile will not be viewable by others until you verify.

The implications are clear: No more anonymous or unverified accounts. It's just my speculation, but I think the major force driving these new rules is that the site is hosted in the US, and so is subject to US Federal and State LE scrutiny, fueled by the FOSTA / SETSA bullshit laws. Other sites without these rules are hosted outside the US in countries where prostitution is either legal or at least decriminalized.

While I have certainly found a number of SB profiles belonging to escorts (use reverse image search, Dude), I have never encountered anyone who I thought might be a victim of trafficking. Nor have I ever met someone from Seeking who was not over 18 - and yes, I most definitely require they let me take a pic of their I'd when we meet before we get physical and before I provide any allowance.

Hey everyone, Dave here, new SLN girl in Downey, her name is Bunni, and she is 20. She is very submissive and down for rough sex including spanking, choking and slapping. Loves being praised and DDLG play. Ok with and can handle a bit of face f*ing. She also loves being pounded in doggy with her hair pulled and her ass being spanked. Not into girls, but would consider anal. Is really about pleasing daddy and letting him do whatever he wants. No word on BBFS. Mid range PPM.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/owo.bunni/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SecondLove;7424056]At first they were only requiring it from new accounts. But after about 8 weeks they started showing messages to older accounts at log in asking to get it done. Finally, they changed the message to say your profile will not be viewable by others until you verify.

The implications are clear: No more anonymous or unverified accounts. It's just my speculation, but I think the major force driving these new rules is that the site is hosted in the US, and so is subject to US Federal and State LE scrutiny, fueled by the FOSTA / SETSA bullshit laws. Other sites without these rules are hosted outside the US in countries where prostitution is either legal or at least decriminalized.

While I have certainly found a number of SB profiles belonging to escorts (use reverse image search, Dude), I have never encountered anyone who I thought might be a victim of trafficking. Nor have I ever met someone from Seeking who was not over 18 - and yes, I most definitely require they let me take a pic of their I'd when we meet before we get physical and before I provide any allowance.[/QUOTE]On your last point, it is a crime in some jurisdictions to even message someone not an adult about sexual topics, so waiting until you meet is ill advised if there is any question.

Mainly, I want to know what you use for reverse image search. I haven't gotten any hits from Tineye in forever. Google image search also. It particularly will also say it does poorly on faces. There is one from a Russian website I used once that was pretty good.

After not logging into my Seeking account for a few months, I am now prompted for a selfie.

As a married SD, discretion can't be compromised.

At this point, I am DONE with Seeking.

Time to explore other options, any suggestions?

[QUOTE=TopGun9;7424577]After not logging into my Seeking account for a few months, I am now prompted for a selfie.

As a married SD, discretion can't be compromised.

At this point, I am DONE with Seeking.

Time to explore other options, any suggestions?[/QUOTE]My recommendation is to get on Sugar Daddy Meet. You will find almost as many gals that there on Seeking, and prices can be lower than Seeking for the girls. I have been a member here for about a year, and like it just as much as Seeking. Also, their 3 month membership is about a third of the cost of Seeking. Only downfall, is you have to be more patient if you are seeking 9's. The girls here seem to be a tier down from Seeking, but there are gems to be found. Get the 3 month membership. You will not regret it. They do not require a video, selfie, etc.

Good luck.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7423763]This is going to be a big problem as time goes on. I have a couple of photos cut off just at the nose, to give the impression they are for my discretion. They are of someone who looks good and looks like me. When I updated my profile, something happened to these photos. I had one public, one private. Now, both are private, even though when I edit my profile, I have set both to public. When I click on the photos, I get this popup:

Primary Photo Eligibility.

Your head must be in frame.

No overtly sexual material.

No violence.

Read our photo guidelines.

Not only do I have this problem, my main profile photo is just the grey silhouette, and now the button to share photos is gone. In the past 4 hours it was there though. This site is so glitchy, all kinds of stuff goes wrong. You block a profile but it still appears in search, etc. However, I don't want to complain, it will just attract attention from the mods that I don't want. I have two profiles on there, I've been able to keep them for a long time. I don't want to lose them, the requirements they are discussing will keep me and many other married guys off the site.

I recently had to go through my profile and purge all of the things that weren't OK under the Community Standards. This was new. I see many girls profiles that violate them, and I'd bet a lot of you have old profiles that do to. You just don't want to do anything to draw attention to yourself, otherwise they may look at your profile and require you to change it.[/QUOTE]This is so true, the sight is very glitchy at times. I hate when they went to the cloud so when you scroll through pages of gals, and you click on 1 you like, it sends you back to the top of the page and you forget where you left off on your search. Also,as you said, I hate when profiles I delete reappear. You will see 2 or 3 profiles of the same girl next to each other while scrolling. I keep all of my photos private and use the grey silhouette of the man as my profile picture. When interested with a girl, I then share my photos. Send an email to customer service, but keep in mind they are slow to respond and don't always have the answer to the problem.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;7424650]My recommendation is to get on Sugar Daddy Meet. You will find almost as many gals that there on Seeking, and prices can be lower than Seeking for the girls. I have been a member here for about a year, and like it just as much as Seeking. Also, their 3 month membership is about a third of the cost of Seeking. Only downfall, is you have to be more patient if you are seeking 9's. The girls here seem to be a tier down from Seeking, but there are gems to be found. Get the 3 month membership. You will not regret it. They do not require a video, selfie, etc.[/QUOTE]Very interesting, and similar URL to [URL]https://www.sugardaddy.com[/URL], I was almost confused! I find it interesting that the site you mentioned states that they're all about building "long term relationships". How prosaic!

[QUOTE=BerolLoz;7272013]Nice, thanks for the link, she looks good! Couple of videos on her profile too.[/QUOTE]This one tried to extort me. Made several threats after I couldn't meet. Demanded money or else she was going to out me to my SO, then told me she was going to the police too because she was actually underage. Be careful.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;7424577]After not logging into my Seeking account for a few months, I am now prompted for a selfie.

As a married SD, discretion can't be compromised.

At this point, I am DONE with Seeking.

Time to explore other options, any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Pretty much any real sugar site OTHER than Seeking doesn't require the selfie crap. Plus the other sites are more affordable usually. Seeking jumped the shark quite a ways back. And I thought it was pricy already at 90. The fuck now at 130?! Like damn bro pass me the Grey Poupon! LOL.

[QUOTE=Grail47;7424692]Very interesting, and similar URL to [URL]https://www.sugardaddy.com[/URL], I was almost confused! I find it interesting that the site you mentioned states that they're all about building "long term relationships". How prosaic![/QUOTE]I am not sure where you see this, but even if that is on there, I would not worry. The mods are very laxed and lenient unlike with Seeking where you are banned or restricted.

If you use certain words.

Also, their login page says this at the top "THE WORLD'S LARGEST SUGAR DATING SERVICE SINCE 2007" which is contradictory to building long term relationships. LOL.