"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2642604]Escort mentality. These girls are not interested in a relationship at all and as Rat said are only in it for the $$. Face it, if you read the tumble blog sugar baby sections you will see how callous these Hos really are. They have blogs like this one how to rinse SDs without making an effort...[/QUOTE]On ****** or elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2644186]I have to say my 23 yr old is borderline unaffectionate. I've put up with it,[/QUOTE]Why? Most of us already deal with that with our wives, hence the SB route. So you are paying 2 x for the same treatment by two women. What is the definition of insanity again?

I must be picky. After an M&G with a hot Asian coed, I weeded her out based on her saying she is quiet, oral is OK and she does not orgasm from sex. Again, why would I pay for a younger, Asian version of having sex with my wife?

I've came across an increasing number of profiles stating that they are interested in a mentorship. I'm actually talking to two females, money seems not to be the motive. One I've been communicating with over a month, it's clear she's a first timer. She ask for alot of advice and my opinion on alot if things in regards to college, life and her future career. The one states she just wants meaningful intellectual conversation and to be spoiled. Her idea of being spoiled is really low and basic. I've any of you guys came across similar females?

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2644186]I have to say my 23 yr old is borderline unaffectionate. I've put up with it, but I have grown impatient to the point of firing her and moving her out of my starting lineup. There are too many babies joining this site on a regular basis to put up with that.
[/QUOTE]A bird in the hand is worth a dick in the Bush. I want a low volume provider to receive me. As long as she is tight and agreeable I am good. Naturally I have more fun when they are into me. But you go with what you got.

What's different from the SO ? About 45 yrs or so and a different tissue structure.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2642604]Escort mentality. These girls are not interested in a relationship at all and as Rat said are only in it for the $$. Face it, if you read the tumble blog sugar baby sections you will see how callous these Hos really are. They have blogs like this one how to rinse SDs without making an effort. The cold fact is -a 20 yr old girl has no sexual attraction to a 50 yr olg her Father's age -or older. The other issue I've found, is they think kissing is to be saved for their BF, since it hits more emotional buttons. Interesting that a girl will take a sperm dump in the puss, but won't kiss you.[/QUOTE]Or a sperm dump in the mouth and swallow. But hell to the no with the kissing. Go figure. I've decided to reup on SA and continue my search for the elusive open, sexy, horny, affectionate little fish. Tough life for us isn't it?

I've been pretty busy with work lately, and I've not had much time for any extra-curricular activities. Although. I did manage to score a lovely Asian MILF from SA who just wants to be wined, dined, and 69'd. A total keeper, and near where I have a long term gig for the rest of the year!

The real purpose of this post is a recent blog post on SA listing the top cities for SD's and the average monthly allowance. It lists 10 cities (six of which I visit frequently), and indicates that the average allowance is $4 k / month. WTF. I suspect this is marketing BS from SA, but it sure makes our lives much tougher! Anyone else think this is garbage?

Average SD is spending 50 K+ a year on their SB? Three reasons this could be so:

1. it is based on biased "self reported" data.

2. the and is small and average is skewed by a few large numbers.

3 its completely made up without a basis in fact.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;2645014]I've been pretty busy with work lately, and I've not had much time for any extra-curricular activities. Although. I did manage to score a lovely Asian MILF from SA who just wants to be wined, dined, and 69'd. A total keeper, and near where I have a long term gig for the rest of the year!

The real purpose of this post is a recent blog post on SA listing the top cities for SD's and the average monthly allowance. It lists 10 cities (six of which I visit frequently), and indicates that the average allowance is $4 k / month. WTF. I suspect this is marketing BS from SA, but it sure makes our lives much tougher! Anyone else think this is garbage?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BikeRider;2645014]I've been pretty busy with work lately, and I've not had much time for any extra-curricular activities. Although. I did manage to score a lovely Asian MILF from SA who just wants to be wined, dined, and 69'd. A total keeper, and near where I have a long term gig for the rest of the year!

The real purpose of this post is a recent blog post on SA listing the top cities for SD's and the average monthly allowance. It lists 10 cities (six of which I visit frequently), and indicates that the average allowance is $4 k / month. WTF. I suspect this is marketing BS from SA, but it sure makes our lives much tougher! Anyone else think this is garbage?[/QUOTE]I see no reason to worry or be upset about this. SA apparently hasnt found this forum and has no idea as to the free to $ SB that are out there. Bigger cities usually equals more money available to spend on SB. Whether this is true or false it doesn't effect most of us, so no reason to be upset.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;2645014]I've been pretty busy with work lately, and I've not had much time for any extra-curricular activities. Although. I did manage to score a lovely Asian MILF from SA who just wants to be wined, dined, and 69'd. A total keeper, and near where I have a long term gig for the rest of the year!

The real purpose of this post is a recent blog post on SA listing the top cities for SD's and the average monthly allowance. It lists 10 cities (six of which I visit frequently), and indicates that the average allowance is $4 k / month. WTF. I suspect this is marketing BS from SA, but it sure makes our lives much tougher! Anyone else think this is garbage?[/QUOTE]I am just guessing, so feel free to argue, but this sounds a bit like the tactic that escort agencies use to recruit. That is, advertise that they women get $2000 per day to get them signed up. Of course, there's no way that they earn that much after the agency takes its cut and "taxes" and "expenses", but enough women stick around to make it worth while for the agency to do this.

I figure that SA is probably doing the same thing, and that while many women will sign up expecting the big $$ enough will stick round accepting more reasonable offers while waiting for the big sucker, er payoff.

Funny story. My brother met my live in SB / GFE / GF / SO. He's a bit older than me.

We're leaving out and he begs me to get snipped. Tells me it's reversible. Talks to me above alimony being nothing compared to a custody battle. He came to all this after assessing my SB. He told me that "she could think you have a couple million in the bank. " I found that pretty funny, but I suppose for a 23 yo to move in with a guy 14 years older. Who knows how things can be perceived. All her basic needs are taking care of. He seemed to think there's no way she's going to blow this and that she's likely thinking long-term. He probably smelled the conception coming. LOLOL.

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2644802]Why? Most of us already deal with that with our wives, hence the SB route. So you are paying 2 x for the same treatment by two women. What is the definition of insanity again?

I must be picky. After an M&G with a hot Asian coed, I weeded her out based on her saying she is quiet, oral is OK and she does not orgasm from sex. Again, why would I pay for a younger, Asian version of having sex with my wife?[/QUOTE]You know what? You're right except I'm not married anymore, but I will say about my ex Chinese wife sex was one thing that did not get old. It was fantastic. I guess the overriding feeling of getting that young thing in bed is what drives me in those situations. Instead of keeping someone like that in my lineup I should just move on and save that money for babies that perform. In other words just sample those women. That's why I like this thread. I've got you guys to give me a knock on the side of my head to wake me up, so I don't waste my money. This thread has already saved me much and I've spent more efficiently with all the posts from Hollywood Guy and the rest of you.

[QUOTE=Falar;2644828]I've came across an increasing number of profiles stating that they are interested in a mentorship. I'm actually talking to two females, money seems not to be the motive. One I've been communicating with over a month, it's clear she's a first timer. She ask for alot of advice and my opinion on alot if things in regards to college, life and her future career. The one states she just wants meaningful intellectual conversation and to be spoiled. Her idea of being spoiled is really low and basic. I've any of you guys came across similar females?[/QUOTE]Yes, I have in my area of the midwest. The same type of profiles.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2644933]A bird in the hand is worth a dick in the Bush. I want a low volume provider to receive me. As long as she is tight and agreeable I am good. Naturally I have more fun when they are into me. But you go with what you got.

What's different from the SO ? About 45 yrs or so and a different tissue structure.[/QUOTE]Yes true, but I'm getting other signs that another daddy came in and offered more than my 150. I can tell by the longer response time when texting me back and other signs like a flakiness she didn't have before.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;2645014]I've been pretty busy with work lately, and I've not had much time for any extra-curricular activities. Although. I did manage to score a lovely Asian MILF from SA who just wants to be wined, dined, and 69'd. A total keeper, and near where I have a long term gig for the rest of the year!

The real purpose of this post is a recent blog post on SA listing the top cities for SD's and the average monthly allowance. It lists 10 cities (six of which I visit frequently), and indicates that the average allowance is $4 k / month. WTF. I suspect this is marketing BS from SA, but it sure makes our lives much tougher! Anyone else think this is garbage?[/QUOTE]Man, that's just ridiculous. That is marketing for sure, but this also contributes to the GPS stuff. Obviously it is designed to attract more women, and now that I'm typing this it might not be a bad thing. It will be up to us to bring these new women down to earth. All of us wants new women on this site consistently.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2645808]Man, that's just ridiculous. That is marketing for sure, but this also contributes to the GPS stuff. Obviously it is designed to attract more women, and now that I'm typing this it might not be a bad thing. It will be up to us to bring these new women down to earth. All of us wants new women on this site consistently.[/QUOTE]I disagree that its all marketing. You have to understand that the cost of living is higher in big cities. 150-200 bucks is not going to cut.

It in Chicago, New York or San Fransico. Rent runs 2,000-3000 a month on the low end in New York.

You have to understand just like the escort worlds there are different levels. There are cheap backpage / and street girls that go for less than 200 bucks.

There are Mid level independent / or agency girls that go for 300-1000.00 per hour. There are high end model types / or really educated that go for 1000-2000 per hour.

In the sugar world you have low end babies for less than 200 per meet. Midlevel babies that go from 200-500 per meet or 1-3 k per month.

You then have high level babies that go for 2-5 k a month. The majority of the girls on the blogs are high level babies. They are either more educated or sane.

And they are not going to accept less pay than what they can get at a middle class job in the market. The other scenario is that they are a half way normal but smoking hott like movie.

Stars, which means they can easily score a rich boyfriend in real life so they are not going to settle for 200 buck per meet.