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[QUOTE=Daijiro;6143078]It's just $20. I rather have good service than a provider that is now happy with shorting them $20.[/QUOTE]Paying their asking price does not guarantee good service. Plenty of reviews on the board of guys paying asking price and receiving a lousy session.
[QUOTE=OneOne9;6144295]Paying their asking price does not guarantee good service. Plenty of reviews on the board of guys paying asking price and receiving a lousy session.[/QUOTE]If you paid $200 vs $300 or more, it does not translate into better service. Does a $5 burger taste better if you paid $10? Of course not. It just means you overpaid for something that you could have gotten (potentially much) cheaper. And that's a big aspect of the mongering game, VALUE. As in not paying $10 for something you know really cost $5.
The provider is just thinking how can I get all of this sucker's money, as in every dollar in his pocket right now? If you leave your wallet in your car and only have $200 on you that is the max they can get and checks the box for them. Asking about price, negotiating against yourself etc. That is a fool's exercise. It also shows your hand, as in now they know you COULD pay more (because you have more in your pocket), they smell blood in the water and are going to push and push and push for more. Don't fall for that. And eliminate little head's ability to influence a bad decision by leaving wallet and more cash in your car.
You should set the price. And when possible don't even talk price, just hand the provider two bills and let the service begin. If they balk, say sorry babe that's all I got and stand firm. 9 times out of 10 that's the end of it and the service begins (and remember Chinese people have it in their DNA to haggle and really do turn the page quickly once the deal is agreed to -- and they don't give bad service from hurt feelings, that is totally an American thing).
Man up. Hold firm. Be in control.
Shout out to all the brothers here. Went by the SPA near burlington yesterday after reading the reviews here.
Was just passing through Vegas on my trip to Utah. Drove by early around 9 am. No BS straight talk / business.
Took the money, then the girl came in and took me to the TS. Didn't get her name but she was petite and attractive. Gave a very good shower which was much needed for me as I was driving for 8 straight hours.
Gave a good BBBJ and then proceeded back to the room. Started with light massage on back. Then got back to business again. Started with CBJ this time didn't last long though maybe 5 minutes. Then she hopped on and rode like a pro. Couldn't hold for long and busted in the bag. Thought the session is done with that. She cleaned up with hot towel. Then again started with massage. Which to my surprise was very effective. Almost like a legit massage which was very relaxing. All in all a goood experience and will recommend it.
Also saw couple of brothers showed up while I was there, Each room had a TV with live CCTV footage of the door and parking. So if it was someone from here. Hi5.
Thanks guys!! Stay safe!!
[QUOTE=Snaxx;6142963]Trust me, go in with JUST 2 Hundred Dollar Bills. Pay with that and say you don't have any more. 100% they aren't going to let you walk. Keep paying $20+ more if you want to but it is not necessary. Negotiation is something that people in the US need to learn. It's like most Americans are just to weak to stand firm on price. In places like China, they haggle over everything and it shows up in situations like this. And when the haggle is over no one takes it personal and business moves forward. Here everyone is so sensitive. Remember: the power move in negotiation is the (real) threat of WALKING AWAY. So if they balk just say ok, thank you and start to walk. They won't let that sale fall thru over twenty bucks (or more). If everyone smartened up these sessions would be $100 all in but those days are gone.[/QUOTE]I agree, market prices are set by the buyer. Be smart and keep this hobby cost conscious. Happy hunting boys.
New to the LV Massage scene and been reading this forum awhile but I see a lot of mixed advice so my question is simple:
Are there any places that provide FS with attractive women (not Chinese grannies, ideally BBFS)? Some of the top spots here I see mixed reviews where people say that they're "attractive for a massage girl" but not really overall. Pricing is also kinda unclear, standard I'm used to is 150 - 200 for an hour with FS. Thanks!
A provider led me to the wrong door the other day and I saw an old man pulling his pants on. He had folds of skin like a sharpei, and it reminded me of the scene from the Hangover.
[QUOTE=Snaxx;6144334]If you paid $200 vs $300 or more, it does not translate into better service. Does a $5 burger taste better if you paid $10? Of course not. It just means you overpaid for something that you could have gotten (potentially much) cheaper. And that's a big aspect of the mongering game, VALUE. As in not paying $10 for something you know really cost $5.
The provider is just thinking how can I get all of this sucker's money, as in every dollar in his pocket right now? If you leave your wallet in your car and only have $200 on you that is the max they can get and checks the box for them. Asking about price, negotiating against yourself etc. That is a fool's exercise. It also shows your hand, as in now they know you COULD pay more (because you have more in your pocket), they smell blood in the water and are going to push and push and push for more. Don't fall for that. And eliminate little head's ability to influence a bad decision by leaving wallet and more cash in your car.
You should set the price. And when possible don't even talk price, just hand the provider two bills and let the service begin. If they balk, say sorry babe that's all I got and stand firm. 9 times out of 10 that's the end of it and the service begins (and remember Chinese people have it in their DNA to haggle and really do turn the page quickly once the deal is agreed to -- and they don't give bad service from hurt feelings, that is totally an American thing)..[/QUOTE]Problem is if you have the money then they don't give a shit about paying more so that hurts us overall if we can't afford it or don't want to pay or deal with that shit!
Finally stopped by Seven Seas Spa (Burlington Center) early yesterday afternoon and was met by Bella in a tight form fitting dress showing off her assets. Nice lady and speaks pretty good English. As others have said she's had lots of plastic surgery including breast and butt implants and face work. Donation was 220 as expected. Table shower and body slides were very nice, and BBBJ and cfs were too. Finished with BBBJCIM. Experience was well worth the donation. Service / experience is not as good as the Kagencies I visit, but it's nice to just show up and not to have to schedule an appointment in advance. I'll probably repeat when I'm in the area.
On the way out she introduced me to a new lady named Miranda. Very pretty, great smile, and nice body. Might try her next time.
[QUOTE=Sirnasty64;6145277]I agree, market prices are set by the buyer. Be smart and keep this hobby cost conscious. Happy hunting boys.[/QUOTE]When I paid only $200 mamasan said no table shower because I was $20 short. Negotiations are a two-way street. My massage was lame and the provider had saggy tits and a stretched-out box. I won't go back. Not worth it.
Visited Burlington tonight and got the rookie treatment. Lulu asked for the full amount 2 20, I played dumb and emptied my pockets with a 5 and she took it.
I got a new girl and can't remember he name. She was pretty with killer body with B cup. I got a standard table shower followed by massage in the room. She provided BBBJ and 69 followed by how do I wanted to bang her. I pounded that poor girl. Bella came in and introduced herself with some grinding action and gave my ice cream.
Overall a fun experience.
[QUOTE=Joesun1;6146558]Problem is if you have the money then they don't give a shit about paying more so that hurts us overall if we can't afford it or don't want to pay or deal with that shit![/QUOTE]First off. If I may apologize, this may have been my flabby ass. LOL. Second of all, I am laughing at the cheapness of my fellow mongers. Let's compare. Pw is 270.00. But few complaints. Lilys 4 years ago was 200 all in. No complaints. This pla e offers the options of 220 with the add on of a slip and slide in the shower or 200 without. Not sure what the complaint is? If you don't want the extra services then save the 20.00 and still have a better time than most spots offer. Not every girl will be a home run but seriously, this place is pretty awesome. Once it's gone it will be discussed like some of the long gone Hendo spots. If you can't afford the hobby, stay home. It's not like they are asking for 5 bones. Most of these spots are a bargain. Just my two cents.
[QUOTE=DCGrind;6147050]Donation was 220 as expected. Table shower and body slides were very nice, and BBBJ and cfs were too. ~~ Service / experience is not as good as the Kagencies I visit, but it's nice to just show up and not to have to schedule an appointment in advance.[/QUOTE]A TS, body slide and 50/50 runs about $210 in HNL now. I mention this because LV is sometimes jokingly referred to as the "5th island".
MPs don't require screening, setting appointments, or jumping through any other hoops.
My point is that the MPs know what prices are in different markets (the RAs travel and talk), and they know what their place in the local eco-system is.
The cost is what it is. I'm certainly not going to negotiate with a massage lady, KGirl or escort to try to save 20 or 50 from a lady who I'm going to fuck. Makes no sense to me.
Burlington was the first AMP I've gone to in probably 10 years. It was nice, and better than the AMP experiences from 10 years ago, but nowhere near as good as a KAgency in my opinion. For an extra 80 (cfs) or 180 (BBFS) I can get a full hour, 2 showers, a private apartment, and a much more GFE / pse experience. It's a no brainer for me. The AMP is more of a hit and run last minute thing for a quickie when I don't have the led time to schedule with an agency.
[QUOTE=Qeast;6147681]A TS, body slide and 50/50 runs about $210 in HNL now. I mention this because LV is sometimes jokingly referred to as the "5th island".
MPs don't require screening, setting appointments, or jumping through any other hoops.
My point is that the MPs know what prices are in different markets (the RAs travel and talk), and they know what their place in the local eco-system is.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IceCreamLicker;6147224]First off. If I may apologize, this may have been my flabby ass. LOL. Second of all, I am laughing at the cheapness of my fellow mongers. Let's compare. Pw is 270.00. But few complaints. Lilys 4 years ago was 200 all in. No complaints. This pla e offers the options of 220 with the add on of a slip and slide in the shower or 200 without. Not sure what the complaint is? If you don't want the extra services then save the 20.00 and still have a better time than most spots offer. Not every girl will be a home run but seriously, this place is pretty awesome. Once it's gone it will be discussed like some of the long gone Hendo spots. If you can't afford the hobby, stay home. It's not like they are asking for 5 bones. Most of these spots are a bargain. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Think you misunderstood it's for the ones that come in here and pay way above that like 400 and above that's what ruins it for the rest of us who want to keep rates in check you feel me?
This place is 200 with the table shower. At least, that's what I got. I walked in, Lulu recognized me, I gave her 200, asked for Bella, then Bella came into the room, and took me to the shower room. No negotiating, no mention of the 20 difference. She said if I wanted Greek, it's 100 extra, but I politely declined.
[QUOTE=IceCreamLicker;6147224]First off. If I may apologize, this may have been my flabby ass. LOL. Second of all, I am laughing at the cheapness of my fellow mongers. Let's compare. Pw is 270.00. But few complaints. Lilys 4 years ago was 200 all in. No complaints. This pla e offers the options of 220 with the add on of a slip and slide in the shower or 200 without. Not sure what the complaint is? If you don't want the extra services then save the 20.00 and still have a better time than most spots offer. Not every girl will be a home run but seriously, this place is pretty awesome. Once it's gone it will be discussed like some of the long gone Hendo spots. If you can't afford the hobby, stay home. It's not like they are asking for 5 bones. Most of these spots are a bargain. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]