"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

I took off work this afternoon, because it was nice, to get perhaps one last ride on my motorcycle. After getting close to 100 miles in I decided to stop at this Italian restaurant for dinner before I proceeded home. I sit down and this attractive older woman comes up and asks what I would like to drink as she hands me the menu. I'm guessing she's probably 35 with a pretty face and a nice body. I intended to just sit down pull up the internet on my phone and have a nice quiet dinner, but I couldn't help myself, so I had to practice a little game on her. Before I left I got her phone number. She called me a little bit ago, apparently on her break, but missed her call.

I don't know. It seems I've turned into this cock hound ever since I joined SA.

[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2638865]Age 20-27 was my kill zone for SBs.

My analysis is that 20-22 was a bit too young and inexperienced. For example, last date with a 21 yo I figured it'd be cool to let her drive my Range Rover. Should have known something was up when she said her DL permit was expired. This 5 minute drive ended up with some close accidents, a camera ticket for running a red light and I had to take the wheel when we got to the destination to parallel park for her. I liked everything about the 21 yo, but her attitude and irritabilities were just too much. The sex was excellent and she loved to please, but I knew that date would be our last time seeing each other.

26 and Up.

I found them mostly to be know-it-alls and dish out criticisms left and right. They're sort of like single women in their 30's before they've been passed around alot. They're annoying and difficult and I suppose this is when they start getting gamed by alpha males. They're starting to see how the decline is setting in. They quickly realize that their Sociology major, minor in English isn't going to get them too far as an "independent" woman. These girls are often new in the workforce or a combo of grad student and part-time job. They see the lifestyle of girls on TV and are thinking why not them. It's because there's a flock of 22-24 yo SBs that haven't been jaded; have no expectations and aren't as desperate for a social status upgrade.

30's and up. I entertained a few of these dates. The outcome was either highly sexual, casual relationship and then the hints about committing and combining spending trips, etc. Some had great jobs, a divorce under their belt; but this wasn't my idea of fun. The other extreme are 30's girls that see you as a catch due to career. They're eager to please, but make no mistake about it they want your sperm and they want cohabitation ASAP. Had a few of these types demand I walk them to their car the morning after FC. They don't do the "walk of shame" and bitchy about chivalry, etc.

Dating my age again (mid-30's) made me realize I can never go back. Mid-20's girls are just too much fun.[/QUOTE]Good analysis on how you see the field.

I have to say I was surprised to read that you are in your mid thirties. Hell you're still just a pup. I'm 54 man, but I feel 34. You would clean up in China. I spent a lot of time over there and had many dates with younger Chinese women. This was between about 2008 and 2011. They treated me like a rock star. You would have been treated like a rock star too, but more on the lines of the Beatles or something. I will say this. I wish I came to my senses at 35. I would have had way more fun than I did at that age.

Sorry if it already has been discussed, but that site operates on the credit system. Does anyone here have a membership to that site? If so, then are you getting any action from the women?

Personally I never liked using a system like that, but maybe it works for some of you.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2639396]Good analysis on how you see the field.

I have to say I was surprised to read that you are in your mid thirties. Hell you're still just a pup. I'm 54 man, but I feel 34. You would clean up in China. I spent a lot of time over there and had many dates with younger Chinese women. This was between about 2008 and 2011. They treated me like a rock star. You would have been treated like a rock star too, but more on the lines of the Beatles or something. I will say this. I wish I came to my senses at 35. I would have had way more fun than I did at that age.[/QUOTE]I sort of got kicked in the face to my senses by a gal named "alimony". I LOVE and respect my ex-wife, she was a real pisser. She won our divorce settlement like the thoroughbred that she truely is. I was married no kids, and the lone wage earner. I was on the exit out and tried The Bowl. Figured I'd go out triumpantly before the full fleecing.

[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2639489]I sort of got kicked in the face to my senses by a gal named "alimony". I LOVE and respect my ex-wife, she was a real pisser. She won our divorce settlement like the thoroughbred that she truely is. I was married no kids, and the lone wage earner. I was on the exit out and tried The Bowl. Figured I'd go out triumpantly before the full fleecing.[/QUOTE]Sorry to read that. Thank God I wasn't in a position of paying alimony, just child support to an ex that I have no love or respect to. She has turned into a super ***** by pulling some low down stuff. Honestly I've been saying for years she has a psychosis.

My hope is one of these days the field gets leveled in family court. Gender discrimination is alive and well in that court.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2639409]Sorry if it already has been discussed, but that site operates on the credit system. Does anyone here have a membership to that site? If so, then are you getting any action from the women?

Personally I never liked using a system like that, but maybe it works for some of you.[/QUOTE]I would avoid that site. It's owned by the same people as Ashley Madison and it was hacked just like Ashley Madison was. And it came to light that about 90% of the women on Ashley Madison were fake. I wouldn't be surprised if Established Men was loaded with fake profiles as well.

[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2638437]...
There are times when I think of going back to multiple SB's and all the adrenaline and sex that goes with it. In some ways I find my. Current SB / Submissive more fulfilling. It's become a more GF / SO type of arrangement mainly because there's so much more to explore.[/QUOTE]Is she living with you? If yes then you're hitched mate!

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2638194]...The funny thing is she has gotten carded the last two times and I would suspect it will be a common occurrence. She still has this young girl look and throw in that she has braces on top of it, and has this natural giggle that she can't help. Put all of that together and you get one big ass pop while in bed with her. I like this one. I just hope she doesn't turn into a flake or go weird on me.
...[/QUOTE]Got Carded?

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2637467]...
Yes this game is easier done in China. What part of Asia do you travel? And agreed many more beautiful girls in China. Not much fat seen there.
...[/QUOTE]That SBs are easier find given the fact that according to the media women are in great demand due to the one child policy and the preference for boys. There have been reports of women being kidnapped for marriage!

It is possible there is great variation in the conditions across this large country.

[QUOTE=FScott;2635354]Is this app available for iphones? Once you sign up for the 7 day option, can you then access the site from your PC? My profile expired a week ago, but there are a few stragglers that I'd like to contact if possible.

Thanks,

Scott.[/QUOTE]I bought a weekly membership on my phone and have been using SA exclusively from my PC since!

I believe there a programs (emulators) that let you run an android app on a PC.

As I am reading the most recent posts, I am reminded of how I would like to have a SB threesome. I have had a couple SB who introduced me to their friends on the site, but each time I brought up the idea of a SB threesome, it was met with a lukewarm response and never materialized. One of the reasons I am on the SB site is I am on a never-ending quest for new pussy. I suppose if I found a SB that really did it for me I might tarry a while. They are likely to get the most money from me on the first or second date, as I am highly motivated. After that, the clock is ticking, and I wish there was a way I could let them know they need to up their game if they want the cash flow to continue. Apart from going BB in the ass (which many have done), a threesome could potentially keep me interested. Just wondering if anyone has been able to achieve this result without too much drama or jealousy between SB.

Secondly, someone mentioned in a post that they have traded SB as free agents to other mongers on the site. I like this idea, as I do feel some attachment to the girls, and would like to give them a parting gift in the form of a good monger referral. I may try that at some point. I have done something like SB sharing with another monger who is on SA.

Thirdly, I have been stuck on the younger SB for a while now (21 and under). I am considering going older, but some of the older girls (27+) seem unrealistic in their expectations. I would add that I am only interested if the older SB is smoking hot. The market price for SB in the RVA has been discussed elsewhere.

Fourth, it is now my official policy never to pay for a M&G. Foolishly this was not my policy before joining this site. The idea of suggesting the WYP site and disengaging in a civll manner is an excellent one.

Lastly, My current SB is 19 yo, seems inexperienced and I am trying to keep her viable by getting her to do new things. It is wonderful to have this Board as a support system. The price I pay for a rocking visit is $2. , far under the price I initially paid when I joined the bowl. I owe much to your willingness to share your experience.

Happy Mongering!

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2640188]I bought a weekly membership on my phone and have been using SA exclusively from my PC since!

I believe there a programs (emulators) that let you run an android app on a PC.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know anything about this? Which one is the best, and what is the URL that I need to get it from? I am paranoid about clicking on any old random Google search link due to all the hacking, viruses etc that seem to be out there. If someone would post or IM me the exact link that they themselves have used to make this sort of magic happen, I would be forever in their debt. I am counting on the brotherhood to come through!

Cheers, old sports.

Scott.

[QUOTE=DogSun;2639778]I would avoid that site. It's owned by the same people as Ashley Madison and it was hacked just like Ashley Madison was. And it came to light that about 90% of the women on Ashley Madison were fake. I wouldn't be surprised if Established Men was loaded with fake profiles as well.[/QUOTE]Yes I don't plan on participating on any forum with the credit system.

I did notice a few of the girls from SA. Even one of my major babies in my starting lineup LOL.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2640153]Got Carded?[/QUOTE]Yes and she does look younger than her 24 years of age.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2640165]That SBs are easier find given the fact that according to the media women are in great demand due to the one child policy and the preference for boys. There have been reports of women being kidnapped for marriage!

It is possible there is great variation in the conditions across this large country.[/QUOTE]The one child policy only applies if you live in the city. If you live in the countryside there is no limit that I know of. My ex wife was one of three children.

There is a large disparity of men to women because of the preference of having boys over girls. It is part of their narrow minded society. All those abortions of females have caught up with them. Many of the men go down to Vietnam to find a wife. Many of the modern Chinese women don't get along with the men, because of how they are treated. They know the western men treat women much better hence the attraction when one visits.