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[QUOTE=Iwatsu;4477414]Looking to try A spa or you spa (you?) but can't search on one letter (or 3) here. Can someone let me know what street each is on, and your preference? Looking for FS and maybe some back door fun.
Appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have been visiting massage parlors in San Diego for over 20 years and I've never found reliable back door action. I was offered once ten years back or so, but at such a markup I declined.
Eva from Z massage. Did she provide FS?
[QUOTE=FlipJunk;4478975]Eva from Z massage. Did she provide FS?[/QUOTE]No. Sorry. She is great at what she does though.
[QUOTE=FlipJunk;4478975]Eva from Z massage. Did she provide FS?[/QUOTE]No. So far as I know and in my experience with 3 of the ladies at Z's (Anna, Eva, and Coco) multiple times, FS was never on the menu there.
Going to be in the SD area late tomorrow through middle of the next week. Mostly in SD, but will visit an old friend in San Marcos / Vista area. Travel always leaves me stiff, and I could use a good a masseuse that knows what she's doing. Wouldn't hurt if she also knows how to really release tension.
Anyone have any ladies in mind? Worse case I'll hit up a legit Thai place I know of. Appreciate the tips.
Its an interesting story, a kind of a long narrative woven into the tale of many other issues and conflicts that we face in society.
Rich versus poor, the white privilege of old money in a male dominated system.
But I think the sad thing that it doesn't point out is simply the fundamental right that individuals have to act upon their sexual needs and desires.
Human biology gives us the physical mechanism and the drive for sex.
The sex drive and the interaction between men and women deeply influences our interactions on so many levels were not consciously aware of it.
We are all the product of sex and all of us are hardwired for sexual activity.
To criminalize this expression of life itself, to make it a crime, this is basic fact of life hes truly a social problem that can't be overlooked.
If a member of society wants to pursue a healthy and normal sexual release their subject to fear shame anxiety arrest last of income.
The laws that puts these pressures on individuals only convolutes distorts the basic driving force of our humanity.
None of these laws or Government controls on our biology produces healthy sane rational individuals, it only creates a climate of fear over a basic human need.
Healthy sexual interactions between two consenting adults are inherently the right of those adults.
What happens behind closed doors is not hurting society and is demonstrated by the very end of this article and Vanity Fair As only hurting the poorest members of society. Women, mothers that are trying to help support their families as well as provide a service for individuals relieving their needs for loneliness and sexual interaction.
It seems of far worse crime to try to control and frustrate and subvert our basic biological needs.
It is your biological birth right to have sex.
Human beings have a physiological and health interest in having a sexual release. Sexual activity is good for the heart and emotional well-being. Its just one component of being a healthy well-adjusted person.
The same right you have to eating sleeping, in that its just necessary for a normal healthy life.
If you believe that clean air clean water and food are basic aspects of human existence then you should also be promoting fair and equitable means for humans to have sexual relations without government control without laws that criminalize and punish those to provide sexual services.
Truly end the victimization of sexuality by eliminating the laws to prosecute people for nothing more than being living human beings that are healthy enough to still have a sex drive.
Currently the laws punish the women that provide sexual services to men disproportionately.
This needs to change women, should not be treated as criminals for participating in the act of sex.
Neither should men be treated as social outcast or criminals because they have sexual needs and desires.
What two consenting adults agree to behind closed doors is not the business of the government and the laws need to be changed to prohibit this kind of obscene prohibition against human sexuality.
Sorry for the long post but I put this up on rub maps and thought that I'd share with the rest of you.
Be kind to your providers, be healthy and happy and try to live a peaceful life 😊.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/the-disturbing-saga-of-robert-kraft/amp
Copy and paste
[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;4479594]Its an interesting story, a kind of a long narrative woven into the tale of many other issues and conflicts that we face in society.
Rich versus poor, the white privilege of old money in a male dominated system.
But I think the sad thing that it doesn't point out is simply the fundamental right that individuals have to act upon their sexual needs and desires.
Human biology gives us the physical mechanism and the drive for sex.
The sex drive and the interaction between men and women deeply influences our interactions on so many levels were not consciously aware of it.
We are all the product of sex and all of us are hardwired for sexual activity.
To criminalize this expression of life itself, to make it a crime, this is basic fact of life hes truly a social problem that can't be overlooked.
If a member of society wants to pursue a healthy and normal sexual release their subject to fear shame anxiety arrest last of income.
The laws that puts these pressures on individuals only convolutes distorts the basic driving force of our humanity.
None of these laws or Government controls on our biology produces healthy sane rational individuals, it only creates a climate of fear over a basic human need.
Healthy sexual interactions between two consenting adults are inherently the right of those adults.
What happens behind closed doors is not hurting society and is demonstrated by the very end of this article and Vanity Fair As only hurting the poorest members of society. Women, mothers that are trying to help support their families as well as provide a service for individuals relieving their needs for loneliness and sexual interaction.
It seems of far worse crime to try to control and frustrate and subvert our basic biological needs.
It is your biological birth right to have sex.
Human beings have a physiological and health interest in having a sexual release. Sexual activity is good for the heart and emotional well-being. Its just one component of being a healthy well-adjusted person.
The same right you have to eating sleeping, in that its just necessary for a normal healthy life.
If you believe that clean air clean water and food are basic aspects of human existence then you should also be promoting fair and equitable means for humans to have sexual relations without government control without laws that criminalize and punish those to provide sexual services.
Truly end the victimization of sexuality by eliminating the laws to prosecute people for nothing more than being living human beings that are healthy enough to still have a sex drive.
Currently the laws punish the women that provide sexual services to men disproportionately.
This needs to change women, should not be treated as criminals for participating in the act of sex.
Neither should men be treated as social outcast or criminals because they have sexual needs and desires.
What two consenting adults agree to behind closed doors is not the business of the government and the laws need to be changed to prohibit this kind of obscene prohibition against human sexuality.[/QUOTE]Could not agree with you more. Outlawing sex and procurement of sex has led to the furthering of trafficking. By regulation and allowance it would decrease that. Fucking is a normal thing. All people like it. And all people should do it however the fuck they want.
I have no issues helping out a chick who digs cock. No reason to punish her or me for that.
[QUOTE=GrayCock;4479889]Could not agree with you more. Outlawing sex and procurement of sex has led to the furthering of trafficking. By regulation and allowance it would decrease that. Fucking is a normal thing. All people like it. And all people should do it however the fuck they want.
I have no issues helping out a chick who digs cock. No reason to punish her or me for that.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Amnesty International recently said that if you want to get rid of trafficking then the first step is to decriminalize sex work everywhere in the world.
Google Amnesty International sex worker rights are human rights
It's a great read
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I think this place is in Bonita. Near swc. I don't know, I'm not from here. In any case, I was given Quasimodo. She had pretty nice arms, if wishing your arms was muscular is your thing. The massage was pretty good though, the flip was weird but the two handed approach showed she was trying. Due to the massage, it was a decent experience overall. Might not recommend though since all the ladies were kind of far from good looking.
Hi. Lurker for a while. Now a member. Looking for some helpers. Went to crystal massage a month ago. First time to AMP. Saw Lisa. Not too much to tell. 35 up front for 30 minutes. Good massage all over, flip, more massage and HE. All great. Tipped. 4.
So went back today. Same deal but different lady. Not as engaged I felt but a really good med level massage. However, no flip, no he. Just said we finished. Realized 30 minutes had gone by.
So my question is. Did I miss a sign by her or was she just not interested to massage my front, etc. Tipped. 2. But was disappointed. Any advice would be awesome. Any better places to go to around San Marcos?
Well you learned one of the first important lessons in mongering.
YMMV (your mileage may vary).
Sometimes a person just gives off the LE vibe and the providers are just being careful.
Some providers just don't want to offer extras. Maybe to somebody else but not you, sometimes it takes repeat visits before they warm up to you. Oh yeah by the way the owner / manager of Crystal used to not give happy endings but the other girls were more obliging
San Marcos has a lot of great places for a rub and tug. Massage Wen, Sakata Thai, Holy massage, Angie massage, Rainbow massage, The other place next to the car wash that used to be called Jasmine Garden that for a while had a sign outside calling itself rainbow as well, Metal oxide, AA relax. These places and a few other I've personally had happy endings.
Couple things to remember, try going for an hour and don't have high expectations, go with the flow sometimes they don't offer extras and sometimes they just want to make sure you're not LE.
Providers are human beings with a different moods, different situations, so as always your mileage will vary.
Just tip well for good service that you like and after a few visits you'll get the hang of what's required but don't be too aggressive or pushy but try put your hand on her leg to make a little contact. Just send out subtle signals that you're interested in a little more, they have seen enough dude to pick up on it right away what you're looking for.
Just respect their wishes and enjoy the experience regardless of what happens.
[QUOTE=Texbrot;4480629]Hi. Lurker for a while. Now a member. Looking for some helpers. Went to crystal massage a month ago. First time to AMP. Saw Lisa. Not too much to tell. 35 up front for 30 minutes. Good massage all over, flip, more massage and HE. All great. Tipped. 4.
So went back today. Same deal but different lady. Not as engaged I felt but a really good med level massage. However, no flip, no he. Just said we finished. Realized 30 minutes had gone by.
So my question is. Did I miss a sign by her or was she just not interested to massage my front, etc. Tipped. 2. But was disappointed. Any advice would be awesome. Any better places to go to around San Marcos?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;4480914]Well you learned one of the first important lessons in mongering.
YMMV (your mileage may vary).
Sometimes a person just gives off the LE vibe and the providers are just being careful.
Some providers just don't want to offer extras. Maybe to somebody else but not you, sometimes it takes repeat visits before they warm up to you. Oh yeah by the way the owner / manager of Crystal used to not give happy endings but the other girls were more obliging
San Marcos has a lot of great places for a rub and tug. Massage Wen, Sakata Thai, Holy massage, Angie massage, Rainbow massage, The other place next to the car wash that used to be called Jasmine Garden that for a while had a sign outside calling itself rainbow as well, Metal oxide, AA relax. These places and a few other I've personally had happy endings.
Couple things to remember, try going for an hour and don't have high expectations, go with the flow sometimes they don't offer extras and sometimes they just want to make sure you're not LE.
Providers are human beings with a different moods, different situations, so as always your mileage will vary.
Just tip well for good service that you like and after a few visits you'll get the hang of what's required but don't be too aggressive or pushy but try put your hand on her leg to make a little contact. Just send out subtle signals that you're interested in a little more, they have seen enough dude to pick up on it right away what you're looking for.
Just respect their wishes and enjoy the experience regardless of what happens.[/QUOTE]Nicely said, and so true. Thanks.
Recently I had the urge for a decent massage plus HE, but wanted to go local, so I stopped in to East County Spa. It's been almost 2 months since I was there last, when the papasan was an older white guy and I did finish with a HE, so I wanted to see if they had new MTs. This time the papasan was a middle aged Chinese guy. The MT was a different one too, but again 40 ish and just "meh" looking. Not skinny, not fat, just overall average with glasses. Paid $45 for 1 hr. The massage was good--she got out some kinks I didn't know I had. Downside was since this was in the AM so they had other customers. One was a female I could hear finishing up talking to her MT in the next room. Well, mid-massage I gave the universal "I'm not LE" leg rub followed up with some ass grabbing when she mounted the table with her crotch above my head. Nothing. No response, no giggling, no brushing my hands away. No teasing after the flip. No HE this time. Strange. I tipped $20 for the good massage and she seemed happy. Chalk another one up to YMMV.
Right after that session I headed to Perfecta in El Cajon. Mamasan (also MT) seemed late 40's and had a chain smoker hacking cough. Well, I had to get released, so I went ahead with it. She pushed for boom-boom, but I opted for the standard hhr rub & tug instead. Nothing special, same old same old.
Later on that week, after a rousing session at Cheetah's and, Little Mikey was in the mood for something young and pretty so I rolled down the street to A spa. MT was gorgeous, a young spinner with not cheap C cup implants (probably a natural B cup, so a very good job of enhancing without going too big). Name of Sunshine, or whatever. (Does it matter? She's probably back in LA now.) Anyway, looking at her hot bod Little Mikey is at full attention. Big mistake. She lets me know Little Mikey is (paraphrasing) too beaucoup for FS. Again? Damn! Well, we had a good time anyway, although she did cry "No biting!" even though I was only sucking on those nice pencil eraser nipples, and not very hard.
Fast forward to this week and after the confusing experience at East County Spa I decided to check in with my standard go-to, Cajon Spa. One hour was $40 and MT was your typical 40 ish auntie and just not quite passable to wake up Little Mikey. Fuck it, I say to myself, I'll go to Z and see what's going on there, after reading some of the posts here. MT was Angela. She was not attractive. Like at all. Very un-Z-like. Annoying, too--was coughing like she was sick and kept trying to put a candy in my hand. Her massage skills sucked, too. This was more like skin petting than muscle massage. Little Mikey had retreated back inside me, he was so turned off, and I was just counting down the minutes until this was over, regretting paying for a full hour. Oh, she kept on teasing, even patting Little Mikey, but all I said was, "Massage only, please. " I hate when I have to say that. After the session, I tipped $10. She's lucky she got anything. She immediately says, "No, 20 more!" I exclaimed, "For what! And headed out angrily, not even acknowledging mamasan's sayonara. I think I'll wait a while before returning to Z to see if they can get their shit together.
Having struck out twice, I found myself back at A Spa. Not to sound repetitive, but MT was a gorgeous young spinner with natural C cups and a nice hairy yet trimmed back Bush. I like that. Sorry, didn't get her name. I opted for hhr naked HJ which she wouldn't do for less than $80. (I would have asked for FS but after the two prior failed attempts at scoring a decent looking MT, I was short on cash.) She did a sexy body slide, played with Little Mikey, and gave a good HJ while I sucked on those perky Cs. Only complaint is while I was rubbing that nice hairy Asian pussy she wouldn't let me go FIV. Oh well. Still worth it. I could see myself settling in to a craft-beer-then-Cheetah's-then-A-Spa routine.