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A few updates regarding lessons learned in the bowl this past round:
1. Hotel. Before booking hotels, I've learned to always call ahead to ask whether an early check in and late check out looks like it will be possible. The hotel staff won't ever guarantee either, but based on availability, they should be able to give you an idea of whether its going to happen or not. An early check in with a late check out literally gives you 50% more potential FC time. For example, most hotels require check in at 3 pm And check out at 11 am This gives you about 20 hours. If you book at a hotel where you know early check in (10 am) and late check out (5 pm) is likely, this gives you about 31 hours of time.
2. Phone. A prior brother previously recommended the 1000 text card for the TracPhone. I had been burning through texts like a madman this past round. Some of these young pots text the most inane crap. I can't tell you how many "lolz" I received, but then had to open because my burner Trac phone won't let me see if the text is from the pot that is supposed to meet me at the FC, or from the pot that has diarrhea of the fingers. I can't tell you how unbelievably annoyed I get when I receive a series of texts ranging from "Oh my god" then, "you're too much" then, "lolz" then, "xoxo. " I digress though. The 1000 text card for the TracPhone is only available for phones that have a "plan" meaning that if you're buying minutes and service time with cards, then you can't apply the 1000 text card to your account.
3. Cards. If you're looking to put cash on a card to avoid having purchases traced, most of the rechargeable cards that are available at Walmart come with too many fees (e. G. Maintenance fees, etc.) and are a pain in the butt to set up. I've decided that the non-rechargeable Vanilla Visa is the best way to go for me. You can load up to $500 on each card and there is a one time nominal fee when you purchase the card. No fuss, no muss. All you need to do to use the card for internet purchases is input a zip code when you activate the card.
4. Transportation. Uber and Lyft are the way to go. Non-surge pricing makes transportation super cheap. It also pretty much eliminates any concerns about a pot taking down my license plate or knowing more identifying information about me than I want her to know (e. G. The make and model of my cars).
So this past round, I encountered a much higher number of ladies who seemed like they were using SA as a traditional dating site. Normally these pots are easy to avoid because their profiles give them away. Their profiles usually say things like: "I'm not opposed to something long term with the right guy," "I prefer platonic relationships to start out but might be able to be comfortable having sex if I come to genuinely like you," "intimacy comes with time," or some such nonsense.
A few slipped through my spider senses this round, which meant wasted dinner dates, but more importantly, wasted time that could have been spent working another pot or having a FC trip with a SB. The most annoying part was when these pots who wasted my time tried to string me along by ending the date by hinting that the next dinner date might end up with a trip to the FC.
I wanted to tell these pots that they don't seem to understand the supply and demand problem they are facing. There are just too many other pots out there who are willing to drop the panties when they find a SD that they like.
So I've gotten more than a few messages about what I put in the mercenary profile that has been so successful. It wouldn't make sense for me to post the actual text because if it starts getting copied, then it would be a little weird. Here are a few tips:
1. Confident vs. Cocky. I tried to set up a profile that exuded confidence, not cockiness. There is a fine line between the two. Coming off as the latter rather than the former is an easy way to chase off the ladies.
2. Value vs. Cheap. My profile also outlined my general approach to the bowl. I made it clear that a baby wasn't going to get rich off me on a first date, but avoids coming off as cheap. In many ways it outlines Fred Moore's idea that if a baby and I see each other on a regular basis, then it could be possible for her to reach her expectations (depending of course what her expectations are). Coming off as cheap is a sure fire way to kill any shot you have of getting responses. Using your profile to give a roadmap to a pot for how she can reach her expectations is completely different.
[QUOTE=Falar;2637033]The female is the one who stated she wouldn't mind having sex for money. It's just she's the first female to be so direct so soon on SA.[/QUOTE]Best thing is to get off SA site asap as jeelizard suggested. Then with anything in this hobby, never talk directly about sex for money. A girl who does that is probably just naive. Make sure you discuss / mention the $ is for her companionship, a massage, poetry reading or something else. You can be clear that your intentions are to end up with her panties on the floor, just don't relate that directly to any "help. ".
From what I have heard, there is a low probability that a girl who shows up at a M&G is LE. I am told that is too many resources to expend to collar one dude on what is usually a misdemeanour charge. Remember, LE isn't going to send a female decoy alone, so there needs to be a fair amount of back up around. Now if the girl asks you to bring illegal substances with you to the date. That's another story as those charges are usually felonies.
Also remember to use a burner phone, GV # and monger email. Sure all of these could be traced back to you, but doing so requires a large amount of resources, time, court orders, etc. All of which not cost effective. Also there is some wisdom in NOT carrying ones burner phone with you on a 1st date -ups the ante on linking you to those texts, conversations, etc.
Good luck, stay safe!
[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2637277]A few updates regarding lessons learned in the bowl this past round:
1. Hotel. Before booking hotels, I've learned to always call ahead to ask whether an early check in and late check out looks like it will be possible. The hotel staff won't ever guarantee either, but based on availability, they should be able to give you an idea of whether its going to happen or not. An early check in with a late check out literally gives you 50% more potential FC time. For example, most hotels require check in at 3 pm And check out at 11 am This gives you about 20 hours. If you book at a hotel where you know early check in (10 am) and late check out (5 pm) is likely, this gives you about 31 hours of time.
2. Phone. A prior brother previously recommended the 1000 text card for the TracPhone. I had been burning through texts like a madman this past round. Some of these young pots text the most inane crap. I can't tell you how many "lolz" I received, but then had to open because my burner Trac phone won't let me see if the text is from the pot that is supposed to meet me at the FC, or from the pot that has diarrhea of the fingers. I can't tell you how unbelievably annoyed I get when I receive a series of texts ranging from "Oh my god" then, "you're too much" then, "lolz" then, "xoxo. " I digress though. The 1000 text card for the TracPhone is only available for phones that have a "plan" meaning that if you're buying minutes and service time with cards, then you can't apply the 1000 text card to your account.
3. Cards. If you're looking to put cash on a card to avoid having purchases traced, most of the rechargeable cards that are available at Walmart come with too many fees (e. G. Maintenance fees, etc.) and are a pain in the butt to set up. I've decided that the non-rechargeable Vanilla Visa is the best way to go for me. You can load up to $500 on each card and there is a one time nominal fee when you purchase the card. No fuss, no muss. All you need to do to use the card for internet purchases is input a zip code when you activate the card.
4. Transportation. Uber and Lyft are the way to go. Non-surge pricing makes transportation super cheap. It also pretty much eliminates any concerns about a pot taking down my license plate or knowing more identifying information about me than I want her to know (e. G. The make and model of my cars).[/QUOTE]Great advice. I purchased a hushed account. You can select a number with your area code and pay for minutes / texts. This avoids the hassle of using two phones. I had a problem with my contact list last week and received great customer service via email.
[QUOTE=MulchMan;2637418]Great advice. I purchased a hushed account. You can select a number with your area code and pay for minutes / texts. This avoids the hassle of using two phones. I had a problem with my contact list last week and received great customer service via email.[/QUOTE]Also. You can use "burner" its an app (I have iphone, may be on android also) where you purchase a number and then after whatever time period you purchase, the number burns. You can get phone and text from it.
GG.
[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2635684]Since I've been focusing on one SB its been more like peeling off layers of getting to know my SB / GF / SO better. We have no fetish play to think of and she's not into calling me daddy during sex or anything like that. There's no dress up or role play other than lingerie.
The dynamic of our relationship does have some simulatity to daddy Dom play. It's very subtle, but my SB will occasionally want a piggyback ride or for me to tie her shoe. This isn't frequent in occurance. We definitely have our share of intellectual conversation, but there are times in the past I've noticed that she acts child like. I'm not complaining. It's just an observation.
I suppose she looks at me as a father figure in some ways as I provide all her financial needs. She loves when I'm at home working with my toolbox or tinkering with small electronics. When I'm handling work calls she smiles at me and gives me a hug from behind when I'm in my chair. If she does something I disprove of she warms up to me by being sexual. I looked at it as sweet GF behavior, but I'm starting to wonder if there are some parallels.
I only recently discovered DD / LG and I'm wondering if this is what we're acting out. If any of your guys have any ideas on how to further take advantage of this inclination let me know. At this point, this could be me overthinking things. Or perhaps I'm on to something.[/QUOTE]Good read about your girl. Excuse my ignorance but what is "DD / LG"?
[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2636447]I joined SA 2 weeks ago. Of course, I go the usual flurry of mails, especially from overseas profiles (SPAM).
I immediately met a girl for M&G coffee. She insisted on a "gift" and silly me. I didn't think and gave her one. She immediately became very pushy demanding a monthly allowance and would give me "the best sex I ever had" (is there such a thing? I booted her.
Second was a black girl, 32, MILF. And turns out she lives near me. Our first M&G was in her bed. Wow. Such fun. We have a "pay as you go" relationship for now. She is quite different from what I imagined a SA girl would be. We got all the 'preliminaries" out of the way, my being married, etc.
So, I have modified my profile, reduced my annual income and net worth, put down that I don't provide gifts on a M&G and if you expect so, then pass me by. I'll let the board know how this works out. I'm not cheap, but reading this board is very helpful for me.
I am supposed to meet a 24 yo mixed girl today. I have sworn off white girls and maybe meet a Latina next week. But, of course, its tough with wife around LOL. If the 24 yo works out today and wants a gift, I'll use the tack I read below "let's go to your place and I'll give you a gift (in your pussy) and then from my wallet".
So, that is my experience. Honestly, I travel to Asia a lot and SA type arrangments there are much easier. And the girls. Much more beautiful. But I'm giving it a try here in the USA.
Any other "tips" on this board are appreciated. How to handle M&G gifts, how much you pay per session, does anyone give monthly allowance etc.
GG.[/QUOTE]You might already know by know, but the Index is right below the Sugarbabies thread.
Yes this game is easier done in China. What part of Asia do you travel? And agreed many more beautiful girls in China. Not much fat seen there.
Oh and I never give gifts at a M & G. I'll do dinner, and to me that is more than enough for a M & G.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2637459]Good read about your girl. Excuse my ignorance but what is "DD / LG"?[/QUOTE]I think many girls today fantasize about being dominated. Look at the popularity of "50 Shades of Grey". They want someone that is experienced and makes them feel safe to explore. Obviously, Sugar Daddy sites have a high percentage of these type of girls.
I've actually become much more dominant as I've learned that's what many of these girls like. (and I like it too!
[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2637277]A few updates regarding lessons learned in the bowl this past round:
1. Hotel. Before booking hotels, I've learned to always call ahead to ask whether an early check in and late check out looks like it will be possible. The hotel staff won't ever guarantee either, but based on availability, they should be able to give you an idea of whether its going to happen or not. An early check in with a late check out literally gives you 50% more potential FC time. For example, most hotels require check in at 3 pm And check out at 11 am This gives you about 20 hours. If you book at a hotel where you know early check in (10 am) and late check out (5 pm) is likely, this gives you about 31 hours of time.
2. Phone. A prior brother previously recommended the 1000 text card for the TracPhone. I had been burning through texts like a madman this past round. Some of these young pots text the most inane crap. I can't tell you how many "lolz" I received, but then had to open because my burner Trac phone won't let me see if the text is from the pot that is supposed to meet me at the FC, or from the pot that has diarrhea of the fingers. I can't tell you how unbelievably annoyed I get when I receive a series of texts ranging from "Oh my god" then, "you're too much" then, "lolz" then, "xoxo. " I digress though. The 1000 text card for the TracPhone is only available for phones that have a "plan" meaning that if you're buying minutes and service time with cards, then you can't apply the 1000 text card to your account.
3. Cards. If you're looking to put cash on a card to avoid having purchases traced, most of the rechargeable cards that are available at Walmart come with too many fees (e. G. Maintenance fees, etc.) and are a pain in the butt to set up. I've decided that the non-rechargeable Vanilla Visa is the best way to go for me. You can load up to $500 on each card and there is a one time nominal fee when you purchase the card. No fuss, no muss. All you need to do to use the card for internet purchases is input a zip code when you activate the card.
4. Transportation. Uber and Lyft are the way to go. Non-surge pricing makes transportation super cheap. It also pretty much eliminates any concerns about a pot taking down my license plate or knowing more identifying information about me than I want her to know (e. G. The make and model of my cars).[/QUOTE]
Good stuff. This post probably needs to be copied to the Index thread.
I was supposed to meet my 22 yr old baby yesterday. The plan was for her to stay the day and overnight. In the morning she left work early (waitress) and went home sick. She didn't think it would be a good idea to meet and give it to me, but would meet if I really wanted to. I was understanding of the situation. We have a once per week pattern normally. So I stayed home watched a couple football games, then by the evening I was getting antsy, so I went strip bar hopping. I only recently started visited them again after several years away from that scene. So I went to a few and ended up at classy one that I knew would be good. There must have been 30 dancers there, and the number of quality ones were higher than I remember in the past. Many hot ones. Anyway I had a nice private dance, after we sat and talked a while, with a 20 year old that I would compare to something close to a Sandra Bullock look alike. Invariably I start talking to her about having a sugar daddy. I can't seem to help myself. I really want to settle on these two babies I already have, but when I see beauty everything seems to go out the door. She had a boyfriend and over the course of the 15 minutes, during the private dance, I had her thinking she needs to cool it with her boyfriend for awhile. So by the end of the dance we exchange phone numbers, and I verified it, but by the end of the night I must have accidently deleted it while navigating my phone during the night. I didn't see this until I was driving home, and I wasn't going back to get it. Kind of disappointed, but at the end of the day it will save me money.
[QUOTE=ShortMan22;2637250]Anyone want to trade or share their utrs in the nova area?[/QUOTE]We have a mailing list going fornNoVA.
PM me for details.
The guys that have more then one baby I have a question.
Do you let them know you have more than one baby, or do you keep it silent in fear of losing that pussy from your lineup?
This new baby of mine, that I was out with the two nights ago on a ship for dinner, and we ended up in the strip club afterward observing, and also finding out how open minded she is. She also made it a point to make it known the past problems she has had guys and them wanting to get serious, so in that vein I let her know she would not have to worry about that with me. I went on to tell her I had one currently, and others from my recent past, and that my current goal was to settle on two only, and she is the one I would like to add. Obviously she said it was fine, but what is she going to say in the middle of a fun date "no that is unacceptable"? Maybe, but I think the true test might be today, as we set up a FC date at my house later today. I reached out early this morning with a "Good morning" greeting on text. Then later in the morning I let her know I wanted to plan my day and asked "are we still on for later? No response yet. So if I don't get one then that should pretty much mean she's not down for me having another baby, and I'm back to looking for that second baby to add to my lineup.
So what do you guys think?
I have told some and not others. Depends a lot on the girl and her motives, but it can be tricky to test the waters and see how open they are. Many say they want a "monogamous" SB / SD, but in reality will have more. So they are not always honest upfront.
I'm probably like HWG. I want my ongoing babies to be monogamous with me, but I don't plan to be monogamous myself. I know it is hypocritical.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2637558]The guys that have more then one baby I have a question.
Do you let them know you have more than one baby, or do you keep it silent in fear of losing that pussy from your lineup?
This new baby of mine, that I was out with the two nights ago on a ship for dinner, and we ended up in the strip club afterward observing, and also finding out how open minded she is. She also made it a point to make it known the past problems she has had guys and them wanting to get serious, so in that vein I let her know she would not have to worry about that with me. I went on to tell her I had one currently, and others from my recent past, and that my current goal was to settle on two only, and she is the one I would like to add. Obviously she said it was fine, but what is she going to say in the middle of a fun date "no that is unacceptable"? Maybe, but I think the true test might be today, as we set up a FC date at my house later today. I reached out early this morning with a "Good morning" greeting on text. Then later in the morning I let her know I wanted to plan my day and asked "are we still on for later? No response yet. So if I don't get one then that should pretty much mean she's not down for me having another baby, and I'm back to looking for that second baby to add to my lineup.
So what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]