[QUOTE=HotBoisDotCom;1663923]Oral is an option, but by the way it was presented to me, YMMV.[/QUOTE]Sorry I don't get the meaning of your post. Please restate.
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[QUOTE=HotBoisDotCom;1663923]Oral is an option, but by the way it was presented to me, YMMV.[/QUOTE]Sorry I don't get the meaning of your post. Please restate.
[QUOTE=RaleighConnect; 1663761]Has anyone got any intell on this gal?
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-all-american-blue-eyed-blonde-bombshell-super-sweet-100-real-19/10588772[/url]
Posts frequently, looks like she wouldn't have many rules![/QUOTE]I've looked at her ads frequently as well, but haven't jumped yet. Read a review on another site from December that rated her as "attractive" as in same as her pictures, and "cooperative" basically. Didn't sound like she was that enthusiastic, but apparently does speak Greek. Just my .02.
I met with this girl some time back and she was NOT fun and she ran with another girl who wasn't great either.
There is a review for both of them but not Kandii Alone. It's not accurate in my opinion.
Kandii was pretty boring and had a P-Daddy loitering around close by.
Not sure if that's this situation now, but she's still rockin the ghetto duckface.
These girls usually surface when they are down on their luck, the BF kicked them out or need to get back on the habit roll.
I'd stay away simply from my own experience. Their probably isn't much change to the show.
Looks like she has gained a considerable amount of weight as she use to be much smaller.
See review: 159125 Old review.
[QUOTE=Vossen; 1664169][url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/50-special-ready-now-kandii-empress-come-and-play-22/11191989[/url]
Another one of those that looks too good to be true. Anyone met her?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vossen; 1664169][url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/50-special-ready-now-kandii-empress-come-and-play-22/11191989[/url]
Another one of those that looks too good to be true. Anyone met her?[/QUOTE]I saw her about 2 years ago. We had a lot of fun, and our sessions were really good. Since then she's been spotty in terms of availability. She does mostly outcall now, but back in the day, her locations were always bad.
I'm not sure what's going on with her these days, but I don't get a good feeling. Therefore, I haven't seen her.
[QUOTE=MrSmithwick; 1664422]Checked her out to see is she was the girl in the pics. Well she isn't the girl in the pics, however she is a really adorable petite AA girl with a good attitude. That alone made me stay. I asked about pics and she mentioned about discretion. Etc etc, yeah I get it, but still. At any rate, I stayed because she was cool about it and didn't try to fantasize that those were actually her pics.
Sweet girl, some light kisses but no full on GFE. Just a good FS AA girl that is fun, good attitude and no rush.
I didn't witness any outside loitering or potential pimp, she answered her phone right away and guided me to location with no fuss.
IMHO, Good value for the consideration. Just be good to her because her heart and attitude seem to be in the right place.[/QUOTE]If you don't mind me asking, what were her prices like. I generally stay clear of the really young ones because most seem to be quick visit girls, but seeing good attitude and no rush in the same sentence is never a bad thing.
I know a couple of ladies that was thinking of making a trip to Raleigh. If any senior members could pm me with good motels for them to receive friends at so I can pass it on to them.
Thanks,
Q
[QUOTE=Raltime; 1663588]Can't find any old reviews on her. Does anyone know her.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classy-blonde-bombshell-guaranteed-100-32/3625334[/url][/QUOTE]I saw her a few times about five years ago. We had a great time and hit it off well. She seemed a little drugged out though. Ran across her ad last year and checked it out, didn't realize it was the same girl until I arrived at her crappy incall location. She was pleasant, she remembered me and didn't seem drugged out at all. On the down side, our session was no where near exciting and crazy as what we had done years before. I did not go back again. She is thick but I like that so the weight was no bother to me. If she is into it. Your in for a wild ride, but based on my last visit she may ha e mellowed a bit.
I've seen her ads before but cannot find anything on her. Anyone have insight?
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-special-type-of-mature-38/8694593[/url]
[QUOTE=M Neiman; 1665883]I've seen her ads before but cannot find anything on her. Anyone have insight?
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-special-type-of-mature-38/8694593[/url][/QUOTE]With Breena: [url]http://breena.escort-site.com/[/url]
Highly recommend Genny. Great body, beauty of a smile, has been really focused lately and leaving this client completely drained of all my stress. And her pricing is the best around. She is definitely taking steps to rise to the upper echelon of backpage massage providers. Pm for details.
[QUOTE=Ronnor; 1665915]With Breena:
[url]http://breena.escort-site.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Claire does have reviews on another site. Have not met her but used the service many times. Very legit. Have seen Mimi 2x. WOW.
Had the GREAT pleasure of seeing her. Wow. Sexy, mature, intelligent, classy. Definitely a repeat is in order.
[QUOTE=M Neiman; 1665883]I've seen her ads before but cannot find anything on her. Anyone have insight?
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-special-type-of-mature-38/8694593[/url][/QUOTE]
Ok so I am thinking about toftt tonight with
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/extremely-sexxy-killer-body-real-pic-afe-and-discreet-25/10792925[/url]
Or
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/919-520-7328-new-new-new-new-new-new-donations-only-50-80-120-19/10600739[/url]
Any one has any info on them before I do?
[QUOTE=Mintcond40; 1664051]Any reviews on Strawberri?
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/blossoming-grle-grl-nineteen-new-piics-19/10947782[/url][/QUOTE]After reading Smithwick's post I went to see her. She's not the girl in the photos but in real life she is what I would call a cutie. By that I mean you would not expect her to be a model and you might not break your neck for a second look if you passed her on the street, but if you saw her at a bar you would probably catch yourself staring. She's got fairly dark skin, braces, a shy but cute smile, is slightly over 5 feet tall, has beautiful natural breast (the kind with that right amount of hang to them) and an ass that feels great when cupped in your hands. She's not GFE but provides a great non-GFE experience, far better than most of the non-GFE girls I have seen from backpage. Once the cop check was out of the way, she was even willing to discuss her dos and don'ts before the money went down, something that I've had more than one SP refuse to do. Overall I had a great session and hope to repeat. From what she said she is fairly low mileage and sees a limited number of guys per day. I can't attest to the number of guys she sees but she was extremely tight, so much so that with the condom and the all natural approach (she does not slather her pussy with lube) some positions were uncomfortable for both of us. The only real downside is that she has a boyfriend / pimp. I never saw him but he did call shortly after I arrived to the room to make sure that everything was okay.
Looks like someone took good ol' Mr. Smithwick's word. Glad to see you had a good time. I agree on all points. I've been all over the road and haven't been back to see her. I will at some point when the mood hits.
Nice Girl. I would say if she opened up a little more, I'd make an excuse to go in her direction otherwise it will just be whenever my schedule and hers link up in the same area.
That ass. Boy what a nice one. Cupped in the hands!
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1666282]After reading Smithwick's post I went to see her. She's not the girl in the photos but in real life she is what I would call a cutie. By that I mean you would not expect her to be a model and you might not break your neck for a second look if you passed her on the street, but if you saw her at a bar you would probably catch yourself staring. She's got fairly dark skin, braces, a shy but cute smile, is slightly over 5 feet tall, has beautiful natural breast (the kind with that right amount of hang to them) and an ass that feels great when cupped in your hands. She's not GFE but provides a great non-GFE experience, far better than most of the non-GFE girls I have seen from backpage. Once the cop check was out of the way, she was even willing to discuss her dos and don'ts before the money went down, something that I've had more than one SP refuse to do. Overall I had a great session and hope to repeat. From what she said she is fairly low mileage and sees a limited number of guys per day. I can't attest to the number of guys she sees but she was extremely tight, so much so that with the condom and the all natural approach (she does not slather her pussy with lube) some positions were uncomfortable for both of us. The only real downside is that she has a boyfriend / pimp. I never saw him but he did call shortly after I arrived to the room to make sure that everything was okay.[/QUOTE]
She's a BKS girl. Obviously you didn't look around and are just seeking free help.
For 3 easy payments of $19. 95 I'll give you the link. Dummy! LOL.
[QUOTE=M Neiman; 1665883]I've seen her ads before but cannot find anything on her. Anyone have insight?
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-special-type-of-mature-38/8694593[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrSmithwick; 1666354]She's a BKS girl. Obviously you didn't look around and are just seeking free help.
For 3 easy payments of $19. 95 I'll give you the link. Dummy! LOL.[/QUOTE]Bet the dog ate his homework, LOL!
I realize that this is my first time posting, but I could use some advice. I have been reading the forum for about a year now, so I have pretty much read it backwards and forwards.
I have mostly seen SW's in the past, but I do now want to anymore. I am looking to broaden my horizons by switching to Backpage in hopes of being more selective in my choices.
I have seen Sadie (or whatever name she is using now) once. I came across her on Briggs. She gave a phenomenal CBJ, however it was a bit pricey ($.30) and was so good I finished a whole lot quicker than I wanted. I also picked up an AA girl on Davies who was a 10 on the SW scale. She charged me $.20 for FS. I feel I really lucked out with her. Her name was Butter. I have seen other girls not worth mentioning, plus I don't know their names.
I even was able to pick up a girl once in downtown that I thought was a SW, but it turned out it was her Birthday and she was just horny. I never thought that would ever happen to me.
Anyway I would love some advice on who to choose for my first time on BP. I am looking for an Asian, but have not found one. Asian is on the top of my to do list. I prefer spinners with moderate sized breasts. I am not looking for AA right now as I have had my fill. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have really learned a lot from the recent advice on here about thinking with your Big head and knowing when to walk away. That is all for my ramblings. Also I would like to add that I am relatively new to the Raleigh area and this site has been extremely helpful in figuring out where to troll.
[QUOTE=M Neiman; 1665883]I've seen her ads before but cannot find anything on her. Anyone have insight?
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-special-type-of-mature-38/8694593[/url][/QUOTE]Saw her a while back and had a very good session. Full menu and very personable if you like that kind of provider. Responded without looking at the next post. The reason they have a similar number is that they are booked by BKS.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/russian-model-melt-in-ur-mouth-and-n-ur-hands-1-oo-specials-23/11223449[/url]
[QUOTE=Rectumrocket; 1666554]I realize that this is my first time posting, but I could use some advice. I have been reading the forum for about a year now, so I have pretty much read it backwards and forwards.
Anyway I would love some advice on who to choose for my first time on BP. I am looking for an Asian, but have not found one. Asian is on the top of my to do list. I prefer spinners with moderate sized breasts. I am not looking for AA right now as I have had my fill. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have really learned a lot from the recent advice on here about thinking with your Big head and knowing when to walk away. That is all for my ramblings. Also I would like to add that I am relatively new to the Raleigh area and this site has been extremely helpful in figuring out where to troll.[/QUOTE]At the risk of sounding a bit dickish, are you sure you're checking backpage? I only ask because there have been at least 2 asian SPs posting this week and all you need to do is type Asian into the search box on backpage, if you can travel then you should expand the search to all of North Carolina. Another option if she must be asian is to call a couple of agencies (check smithwick's post history because I think he's listed reputable agencies more than once).
Getting your first girl will be a bit of a toss up. You can go it alone and pick the provider that you think is attractive and hope that it is her in the photos. Another option is to check here and on the other site for reviews, most of the better providers have at least one review between here, there and a couple of other places. Google and the phone number are a match made in heaven. I would highly recommend that you go with a provider that the members on here have reviewed before, again use the search functionality.
The biggest two pieces of advice are to reread the boards (not just Raleigh Backpage Review but other cities as well) and to be honest about what you want from the SP. If your account allows it feel free to PM me.
I am much like the joe who posted earlier in that this is my first time posting, but have been on here reading for a while. Unlike him, however, what I am looking for is a AA spinner that is trusted and true to the pictures. I know there are a number of them that post on BP and have posted as recently as today. My problem with selecting one is that after I do my "homework" I get several different sites outside of this one and I'm not sure which is trust worthy. I do trust this site because I have used some of the reviews in the past to find good SP. Using the reviews on this site I was dreaming of harmony, and really enjoyed it. I haven't seen her post in a while so I am going to have to something new. I was hoping that someone might point me in the right direction. I am not in any type of financial position to TOFTT, so I want to be abosolutly sure before I have any new dreams.
Thanks,
J
She's been posting in Northern Virginia for a few days, but Google and Tineye searches of phone and pix turn up nothing before Monday. Phone is a Google number, so she probably added it this week.
Says she's from NC, so figured I'd put up a post here, and see if anyone knows her face.
She looks great, but I'm afraid she's TGTBT.
Thanks.
[url]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/upscale-classy-exotic-p_l_a_y_m_a_t_e-19/10026393[/url]
301-892-6518
[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1667128]She's been posting in Northern Virginia for a few days, but Google and Tineye searches of phone and pix turn up nothing before Monday. Phone is a Google number, so she probably added it this week.
Says she's from NC, so figured I'd put up a post here, and see if anyone knows her face.
She looks great, but I'm afraid she's TGTBT.
Thanks.
[url]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/upscale-classy-exotic-p_l_a_y_m_a_t_e-19/10026393[/url]
301-892-6518[/QUOTE]If she is not TGTBT let us come back and let us know. That is road trip worthy!
[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1667128]She's been posting in Northern Virginia for a few days, but Google and Tineye searches of phone and pix turn up nothing before Monday. Phone is a Google number, so she probably added it this week.
Says she's from NC, so figured I'd put up a post here, and see if anyone knows her face.
She looks great, but I'm afraid she's TGTBT.
Thanks.
[url]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/upscale-classy-exotic-p_l_a_y_m_a_t_e-19/10026393[/url]
301-892-6518[/QUOTE]She is not legitimate provider so stay away.
I had a wonderful dream of this girl with an incredible body. Years of gymnastics and other sports have create this very tight body. An ass that is all muscle NO fat. The dream was good clean fun.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andbrvbar-cali-andbrvbar-has-andbrvbar-arrived-andbrvbar-24/5841112[/url]
[QUOTE=Popye;1666752][url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/russian-model-melt-in-ur-mouth-and-n-ur-hands-1-oo-specials-23/11223449[/url][/QUOTE]
Learn the forum decorum before posting again. Typically you offer information first, and ask for information later. And, as always, RTFF; there is a wealth of information available using the search function that Jackson provides.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sunshine-juicy-shaved-tight-and-just-right-60-specials-22/11211008[/url]
And what does it mean by 60 specials? Is it for hh or h?
Sorry I am still new in this.
[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1667128]She's been posting in Northern Virginia for a few days, but Google and Tineye searches of phone and pix turn up nothing before Monday. Phone is a Google number, so she probably added it this week.
Says she's from NC, so figured I'd put up a post here, and see if anyone knows her face.
She looks great, but I'm afraid she's TGTBT.
Thanks.
[url]http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/upscale-classy-exotic-p_l_a_y_m_a_t_e-19/10026393[/url]
301-892-6518[/QUOTE]Nope have not seen any of her postings in the Raleigh area. Might be a burner phone.
We're all just waiting for you to TOFTT bro!
[QUOTE=Popye;1666752][url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/russian-model-melt-in-ur-mouth-and-n-ur-hands-1-oo-specials-23/11223449[/url][/QUOTE]
If you are picking up bargain basement SW's, you had better save up your pennies because a GOOD Asian girl is going to REALLY be pricey.
[QUOTE=Rectumrocket; 1666554]I realize that this is my first time posting, but I could use some advice. I have been reading the forum for about a year now, so I have pretty much read it backwards and forwards.
I have mostly seen SW's in the past, but I do now want to anymore. I am looking to broaden my horizons by switching to Backpage in hopes of being more selective in my choices.
I have seen Sadie (or whatever name she is using now) once. I came across her on Briggs. She gave a phenomenal CBJ, however it was a bit pricey ($.30) and was so good I finished a whole lot quicker than I wanted. I also picked up an AA girl on Davies who was a 10 on the SW scale. She charged me $.20 for FS. I feel I really lucked out with her. Her name was Butter. I have seen other girls not worth mentioning, plus I don't know their names.
I even was able to pick up a girl once in downtown that I thought was a SW, but it turned out it was her Birthday and she was just horny. I never thought that would ever happen to me.
Anyway I would love some advice on who to choose for my first time on BP. I am looking for an Asian, but have not found one. Asian is on the top of my to do list. I prefer spinners with moderate sized breasts. I am not looking for AA right now as I have had my fill. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have really learned a lot from the recent advice on here about thinking with your Big head and knowing when to walk away. That is all for my ramblings. Also I would like to add that I am relatively new to the Raleigh area and this site has been extremely helpful in figuring out where to troll.[/QUOTE]
Tried dreaming of Carmen today. She sounded adorable on the phone so I thought to setup a longer dream. She told me 30min to get ready (I can wait). Well 30min went by and I called again but no answer. I tried several more times and her number is a Google number. The answering machine told me another number tied to a cell phone. I tried calling that and got an immediately answer. I asked if she was Carmen and she hesitated and said no. Crazy thing is that they sounded exactly the same. I held back telling her off and departed. I never said anything offensive to her or believe I said anything that might of spooked her. Beware of this one. I also saw a Leo drive by after I called the personal cell.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/1-requested-sizzling-hot-latina-visiting-hablo-espanol-22/9887042[/url]
[QUOTE=Popye;1666752][url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/russian-model-melt-in-ur-mouth-and-n-ur-hands-1-oo-specials-23/11223449[/url][/QUOTE]All you have to do is google her email address or phone number. She has adds all over the US and profile on Naughty Reviews (which by the way has no reviews). I did email her with one of my extra addresses yesterday, but have not heard back from her.
So this report is a few weeks old. I went up to the hill hoping for Jen (just love her rack) or Thi but no one was up there but some trashy ugly chick look for $$ dream. So in my disappointed I figured I would look on BP for what was close since I was in a time pinch. I found Aleena [url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/50-50-lets-playsexy-hot-blonde-playmatel-ready-2-play-dont-miss-out-on-the-fun-50-50-27/11129669[/url]. Now I know with a low donation like this there can come some trouble. But I have a huge thing for tiny women and at 4'11 and petite I really wanted to try her. I called to set up and she got mad when I said I was coming from Raleigh area bc according to her only leo come from Raleigh (first flag). But we moved past it. I get to the location and after I park I called, she told me room but as I walked up I saw leo in the lot. I called her back to report my findings but she said it was only security not to worry. When I go to walk up again there pulls up second leo looking at me, so I turned and walked away. She call a couple mins later asking where I was. I told her there was a empty security car but also two leos sitting by the front door and I was not comfortable. She said there were none that her friend works the front and would have told her. That I must be leo myself just trying to get her room number. I offered to reschedule and make it up to her but she said I wasted her time getting ready and I am leo. That I am "done calling anyone" because she is telling all her girls to move and not trust my number. She also texted me with threats for the following few hours. She sounded high and it really sucked because I want a tiny girl again. Well I will report any new findings. Good mongering people
[QUOTE=Popye;1666752][url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/russian-model-melt-in-ur-mouth-and-n-ur-hands-1-oo-specials-23/11223449[/url][/QUOTE]I received a reply back from her via email. Here are the basics.
Pros.
In the pictures she sent she looks amazing naked.
She is GFE
BBBJ.
$ for the hour.
Cons.
No Greek.
You have to use a credit card to make a reservation online before you call her leave a message with the reservation number then she will call you back.
It seems TGTBT, and I am not about to use my credit card for any girl.
[QUOTE=MrSmithwick;1667484]If you are picking up bargain basement SW's, you had better save up your pennies because a GOOD Asian girl is going to REALLY be pricey.[/QUOTE]Don't worry I saved my Christmas money. On a different note I do thank you for your previous posts. I learned a lot from them.
[QUOTE=Choib69; 1667524]Tried dreaming of Carmen today. She sounded adorable on the phone so I thought to setup a longer dream. She told me 30min to get ready (I can wait). Well 30min went by and I called again but no answer. I tried several more times and her number is a Google number. The answering machine told me another number tied to a cell phone. I tried calling that and got an immediately answer. I asked if she was Carmen and she hesitated and said no. Crazy thing is that they sounded exactly the same. I held back telling her off and departed. I never said anything offensive to her or believe I said anything that might of spooked her. Beware of this one. I also saw a Leo drive by after I called the personal cell.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/1-requested-sizzling-hot-latina-visiting-hablo-espanol-22/9887042[/url][/QUOTE]She looks pretty nutty in the pix-doable but just something about her looks made me stay away from this one.
[QUOTE=Karimi; 1667300][url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sunshine-juicy-shaved-tight-and-just-right-60-specials-22/11211008[/url]
And what does it mean by 60 specials? Is it for hh or h?
Sorry I am still new in this.[/QUOTE]Probably hh or quick visit (15 min). Either way don't expect top notch GFE. More than likely just a covered BJ and then the deed. Sometimes that's all guys need, others like the experience of GFE.
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Based on your description, June is definitely a perfect fit: 5'3" 105 lbs. 28 yrs. 34C-24-34 (natural breasts) , she is with an agency SexybyRaven. She is in a completely different price range than SW,her rate is $$$. IMHO, well worth every penny if you are looking for an excellent Asian experience.
[QUOTE=Rectumrocket; 1666554]I realize that this is my first time posting, but I could use some advice. I have been reading the forum for about a year now, so I have pretty much read it backwards and forwards.
I have mostly seen SW's in the past, but I do now want to anymore. I am looking to broaden my horizons by switching to Backpage in hopes of being more selective in my choices.
I have seen Sadie (or whatever name she is using now) once. I came across her on Briggs. She gave a phenomenal CBJ, however it was a bit pricey ($.30) and was so good I finished a whole lot quicker than I wanted. I also picked up an AA girl on Davies who was a 10 on the SW scale. She charged me $.20 for FS. I feel I really lucked out with her. Her name was Butter. I have seen other girls not worth mentioning, plus I don't know their names.
I even was able to pick up a girl once in downtown that I thought was a SW, but it turned out it was her Birthday and she was just horny. I never thought that would ever happen to me.
Anyway I would love some advice on who to choose for my first time on BP. I am looking for an Asian, but have not found one. Asian is on the top of my to do list. I prefer spinners with moderate sized breasts. I am not looking for AA right now as I have had my fill. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have really learned a lot from the recent advice on here about thinking with your Big head and knowing when to walk away. That is all for my ramblings. Also I would like to add that I am relatively new to the Raleigh area and this site has been extremely helpful in figuring out where to troll.[/QUOTE]
Based on some intel I received from someone who shall remain unnamed, this seems to be a new type of internet scam.
They post on BP or CL just like any other escort. Client is then redirected to website where he must first submit credit card info "for verification" before booking an appointment.
From there, what happens is either:
A) Verification never comes, yet they still charge you
OR
B) You get charged and are given a subscription to a porn site instead.
IMHO, she's not legit.
[QUOTE=Rectumrocket; 1667615]I received a reply back from her via email. Here are the basics.
Pros.
In the pictures she sent she looks amazing naked.
She is GFE
BBBJ.
$ for the hour.
Cons.
No Greek.
You have to use a credit card to make a reservation online before you call her leave a message with the reservation number then she will call you back.
It seems TGTBT, and I am not about to use my credit card for any girl.[/QUOTE]