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BD Thanks for the info.
Guys,
I have confirmed it. Although I did not partake (don't like walking that line). Anways, I agree with his ratings. Also, there is a cool thing where you get to watch a dvd while getting the back rub. PM me for details.
[QUOTE=Bird Dropping]Looks: 5/10
Attitude: 9/10
Service: 9/10
Extras: 9/10
PM for details[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TimeWarrior]Only had time for a half hour, used CC, got Kim. Great massage, but no extras offered whatsoever.. Tried inquiring, but was shot down almost immediately. In fact, she focused only on my back. Didn't even get to the front. Tried offering to pay more for the front, but she said I had to restart the whole thing.
Anyway, have any of you guys tried this place? Any success? From what I can read of the posts, I'd say no, but there are so many posts in this forum.[/QUOTE]
I was there well over a year ago. Got a nice assisted stand-up shower, good massage and NOVA finish with roaming allowed. She said I could have had more if I had asked. (I wish she had said that earlier!) Again, that was over a year ago and a long way from where I live so I haven't been back but I might in the future. After all of this time even MMMV!
Confirming Bird Dropping's report also.
Though there are some idiots who actually claim I'm Bird Dropping.
I called my regular private masseuse and she was unavailable. I tried the number of a couple of Thai's in the Van Dorn area, but no answer. (not the higher priced ones in the Vin/Jan flavor - not enough funds).
So I found myself by Backlick and Edsall and a McDonalds. I've always had pretty good luck here (though nothing like the Pon days). Anyway, no Angie at the door. So I go in and Mona comes in the room. Typical middle age Korean - avg. face, decent up top, a bit but not too much other fat.
Table shower was comprehensive - even filed some rough spots on my feet. Back to the room - decent temperature inside. She leaned close to my ear and asked what type - I said first strong then soft (I like massage). She worked me over really well. Great massage, also very comprehensive. On the flip, access was granted to a certain extent and the finish was fine. Gave the usual Nova tip (I like that she said put it on the table and didn't even look at the amt). Exited with the usual water, satisfied.
Will probably go back to my regular but it was a nice diversion.
This report is a couple of weeks overdue. I was up in Sterling on a job and was planning to visit a DC spa but I was out working in the sun all day and my back was killing me so I looked on CL for a spa nearby. There was an ad for King Therapy and it was only a mile or so from the hotel so I decided to take a trip. I really wanted a place with everything on the menu but with the sore back and all around tiredness I figured anything would be better than nothing. The visit started out bad but got really really good. I rang the buzzer and the mamasan let me in. She was probably 60 or so. I gave her .8 for the hour and she took me in for the table shower. I've never had this happen but after reading around this site I new it does occasionally. She washed my back told me to flip. She washed the front until she got to the delicate area and handed me the washcloth and told me to clean that area. Crap, I thought. This is not going to be a good visit. So I washed the area and she handed me a towel to dry myself off. I was thinking two things would happen. The mamasan would give me the massage and I would leave. Or worse she would also provide service on the flip. I figured I'd just hopefully get a good massage and leave.
She lead me to the room and I laid on the table and she through a bunch of hot towels on my back. She rubbed my shoulder for a minute or so and left. I laid there for what seemed like 10 minutes hoping that the real girl was busy would come in and finish the job. Then the door opens and I look up. Its mamasan again and she throws another towel on me and rubs my scalp for about 30 seconds and leaves. I lay there for another 10 minutes getting pissed off. At this point I'm ready for a massage. I didn't care about any extras. Just get me back to the hotel so I can sleep.
The door opened again. I looked and saw some super smooth legs in a tight little denim mini skirt. I sigh in relief and tell the girl I'm so happy to see her. She said her name was Sunny and she ripped off the many layers of hot towels still on my back and starts the massage. She asked how I heard about the place and I mention the ad. She asked what it said and I told her it said something about beautiful asian girls. She asked if it was the truth and I realized that I never even looked up at her face. I gazed up and saw an very pretty woman looking back and said the ad very accurate. She hopped off and stood at the front of the table and continued to rub my back. I started caressing her thighs and kept roaming up. She never stopped me and just giggled when I reached the promised land. She seemed to enjoy what I was doing. She told me to flip over and for probably the first time in my life. I told her wasn't ready for that and asked her to walk on my back first. Good choice! She got off walking on me. She must have cracked everything and giggle everytime she heard a pop.
After a few minutes it was time to flip over. She rubbed a little on the front and of course brushed against the goods a few times. I was reaching down and brushing against her goods too. Things got going and she stripped down to some sexy lingerie and started kissing me. It was pretty odd to tell you the truth. In all my visits to AMP I have never been kissed except for a goodby kiss on the cheek. But there I was making out with her. This went on for a while with the requisite petting. She kissed me down my chest and started using her hands in a very good way.
She then moved into nice 69 position so I dove in. This seemed to go on forever and from the way her thighs were clamped around my head, she had to be enjoying herself. It was really something and despite holding on as long as I could I finally gave in. She got cleaned me off and then laid next to me for a few minute sighing heavily. Then she kissed my again and again. I was just about ready for another run and she seemed willing when the mamasan banged on the door and screamed, "1 hour". I looked at the clock and realized that I had been in there almost and hour and a half. All this for 1.4
As I was leaving she gave me another kiss and whispered, "next time bring (protection).
The next day I debated going back because money was tight. But come on, I was leaving town that night so I had to go back. I was praying that Sunny would answer when I went and my prayers were answered. She opened the door and smiled. I gave her a big hug and she leaned in and asked if I brought what she told me too. Fuck! I didn't! I told her to wait a second and ran back to the car and just about ripped apart my suitcase looking. And there it was, hiding in the corner of my bag. I go back up and mamasan answered the door. She was giving me the evil eye. I told her I left my wallet in the car and had to go get it. Sunny came back out and took me to the back room. I gave her the .8 door fee and got ready. She came back in and I apologized for being so hot and sweaty. She sexually said, "I like sweaty" and licked my chest.
She led me to the shower room and gave me one hell of the table shower. We went back to the room and she remembered just what I wanted in a massage and did it all. I've read on the site a few times where guys asked the girl if they could massage her. So I went for it. She looked at me like I was nuts but she went for it . I started out trying to give her a real massage but pretty much just ended up licking her all over.
To make a long story short. Like thats possible at this point. The second trip was better than the first, and that's saying something. She was just as enthusiastic and since I brought my own gear I was able order a full coarse off the menu, or at least the front of the menu. I will say that she told me be quiet and very silently locked the door so the mamasan wouldn't know.
I will say that these two trips were the best times I've ever had at an AMP and to be honest if this place was in the Tidewater area I probably would have tried to keep it secret. But it's yours so use it wisely. I am glad its not here because Sunny would have bankrupted me.
Have seen 2 young ladies in there since they have opened. Have had a good time with each visit. The taller one seems to get more friendlier with each visit. The only bad part is that mms mite give u the shower (hahahahahah) but overall a good visit.
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]1. I do not believe you
2. If you are tellking the truth I do not want anything to do with her
3. If you are not telling the truth you will seriously damage this woman's reputation.
4. I do not believe you anyway.
JJ[/QUOTE]Man, come on BBFS, you got to be kidding me! Why would you want it anyway? Sleaze, this dude is crazy!
[QUOTE=Dr Bombay]Justforme is on my ignore list so I missed his posting about Green. I find the ladies start asking for 140-160,but when they see cash in hand -100,they take it with all services rendered. Paying more doesn't make one a sucker,but thinking too much with the little head.[/QUOTE]In Nova it is what it is, very rare will u find one that does it all, in the many years that I roamed around NOVA(only bacuz I live here), at the AMPs, I have had FS with only 3 ladies).
[QUOTE=TheKing]This report is a couple of weeks overdue. I was up in Sterling on a job and was planning to visit a DC spa but I was out working in the sun all day and my back was killing me so I looked on CL for a spa nearby. There was an ad for King Therapy and it was only a mile or so from the hotel so I decided to take a trip. I really wanted a place with everything on the menu but with the sore back and all around tiredness I figured anything would be better than nothing. The visit started out bad but got really really good. I rang the buzzer and the mamasan let me in. She was probably 60 or so. I gave her.8 for the hour and she took me in for the table shower. I've never had this happen but after reading around this site I new it does occasionally. She washed my back told me to flip. She washed the front until she got to the delicate area and handed me the washcloth and told me to clean that area. Crap, I thought. This is not going to be a good visit. So I washed the area and she handed me a towel to dry myself off. I was thinking two things would happen. The mamasan would give me the massage and I would leave. Or worse she would also provide service on the flip. I figured I'd just hopefully get a good massage and leave.
She lead me to the room and I laid on the table and she through a bunch of hot towels on my back. She rubbed my shoulder for a minute or so and left. I laid there for what seemed like 10 minutes hoping that the real girl was busy would come in and finish the job. Then the door opens and I look up. Its mamasan again and she throws another towel on me and rubs my scalp for about 30 seconds and leaves. I lay there for another 10 minutes getting pissed off. At this point I'm ready for a massage. I didn't care about any extras. Just get me back to the hotel so I can sleep.
The door opened again. I looked and saw some super smooth legs in a tight little denim mini skirt. I sigh in relief and tell the girl I'm so happy to see her. She said her name was Sunny and she ripped off the many layers of hot towels still on my back and starts the massage. She asked how I heard about the place and I mention the ad. She asked what it said and I told her it said something about beautiful asian girls. She asked if it was the truth and I realized that I never even looked up at her face. I gazed up and saw an very pretty woman looking back and said the ad very accurate. She hopped off and stood at the front of the table and continued to rub my back. I started caressing her thighs and kept roaming up. She never stopped me and just giggled when I reached the promised land. She seemed to enjoy what I was doing. She told me to flip over and for probably the first time in my life. I told her wasn't ready for that and asked her to walk on my back first. Good choice! She got off walking on me. She must have cracked everything and giggle everytime she heard a pop.
After a few minutes it was time to flip over. She rubbed a little on the front and of course brushed against the goods a few times. I was reaching down and brushing against her goods too. Things got going and she stripped down to some sexy lingerie and started kissing me. It was pretty odd to tell you the truth. In all my visits to AMP I have never been kissed except for a goodby kiss on the cheek. But there I was making out with her. This went on for a while with the requisite petting. She kissed me down my chest and started using her hands in a very good way.
She then moved into nice 69 position so I dove in. This seemed to go on forever and from the way her thighs were clamped around my head, she had to be enjoying herself. It was really something and despite holding on as long as I could I finally gave in. She got cleaned me off and then laid next to me for a few minute sighing heavily. Then she kissed my again and again. I was just about ready for another run and she seemed willing when the mamasan banged on the door and screamed, "1 hour". I looked at the clock and realized that I had been in there almost and hour and a half. All this for 1.4 As I was leaving she gave me another kiss and whispered, "next time bring (protection).
The next day I debated going back because money was tight. But come on, I was leaving town that night so I had to go back. I was praying that Sunny would answer when I went and my prayers were answered. She opened the door and smiled. I gave her a big hug and she leaned in and asked if I brought what she told me too. Fuck! I didn't! I told her to wait a second and ran back to the car and just about ripped apart my suitcase looking. And there it was, hiding in the corner of my bag. I go back up and mamasan answered the door. She was giving me the evil eye. I told her I left my wallet in the car and had to go get it. Sunny came back out and took me to the back room. I gave her the.8 door fee and got ready. She came back in and I apologized for being so hot and sweaty. She sexually said, "I like sweaty" and licked my chest.
She led me to the shower room and gave me one hell of the table shower. We went back to the room and she remembered just what I wanted in a massage and did it all. I've read on the site a few times where guys asked the girl if they could massage her. So I went for it. She looked at me like I was nuts but she went for it. I started out trying to give her a real massage but pretty much just ended up licking her all over.
To make a long story short. Like thats possible at this point. The second trip was better than the first, and that's saying something. She was just as enthusiastic and since I brought my own gear I was able order a full coarse off the menu, or at least the front of the menu. I will say that she told me be quiet and very silently locked the door so the mamasan wouldn't know.
I will say that these two trips were the best times I've ever had at an AMP and to be honest if this place was in the Tidewater area I probably would have tried to keep it secret. But it's yours so use it wisely. I am glad its not here because Sunny would have bankrupted me.[/QUOTE]This is a great place. Luckily, some people don't try it because of the neighborhood.
Went over to King today (fri) for the uuuummm, 4th time, twice I have seen Sunny, once Candi and once the other girl. Very important info on this place, hit me up via the back channels for this info (sr mem's). All I can say is that I was shocked!
[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv]Man, come on BBFS, you got to be kidding me! Why would you want it anyway? Sleaze, this dude is crazy![/QUOTE]
I agree completely. First there were rapists filming and selling their stuff, now BBFS and anal? AIDS, Herpes, the clap, yeah I want that.
What is going on here in NOVA?
[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv]In Nova it is what it is, very rare will u find one that does it all, in the many years that I roamed around NOVA(only bacuz I live here), at the AMPs, I have had FS with only 3 ladies).[/QUOTE]I think my average just went up over the past 2 weeks, hit me up via the back channels for specifics.
[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv]I think my average just went up over the past 2 weeks, hit me up via the back channels for specifics.[/QUOTE]I knew it was too good to last. Well, it was nice.
I saw this place in CL and figured it's worth a try. Went in and opted for the half since they said there was no TS. During the was a little roamin. At the end I guesture for a deeper massage and ended up getting one. The only difference I see is that you used CC.
[QUOTE=TimeWarrior]Only had time for a half hour, used CC, got Kim. Great massage, but no extras offered whatsoever.. Tried inquiring, but was shot down almost immediately. In fact, she focused only on my back. Didn't even get to the front. Tried offering to pay more for the front, but she said I had to restart the whole thing.
Anyway, have any of you guys tried this place? Any success? From what I can read of the posts, I'd say no, but there are so many posts in this forum.[/QUOTE]
Went there today and saw Coco. Excellent massage and the flip was very enjoyable. They have a new mamasan who made it a point to ask me about the quality of my provider as I was leaving. Despite the bad reports I've been seeing on this board regarding the quality of service at NOVA AMPs, I believe 112 is the exception. The girls have good attitudes, no upsell, and I've had a great time with each visit.
I agree...
Mamasans are not only there to collect house fees and knock the doors when time is up, they are also there to make sure customers are happy and returning, keeping the business profitable.
In most cases, report any dissatisfaction to mamasan and she will make it right.
Lastly, I've always found a good relationship with the mamasan key to great visits!
MnV
[QUOTE=Nice 499]Went there today and saw Coco. Excellent massage and the flip was very enjoyable. They have a new mamasan who made it a point to ask me about the quality of my provider as I was leaving. Despite the bad reports I've been seeing on this board regarding the quality of service at NOVA AMPs, I believe 112 is the exception. The girls have good attitudes, no upsell, and I've had a great time with each visit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MoonView]Mamasans are not only there to collect house fees and knock the doors when time is up, they are also there to make sure customers are happy and returning, keeping the business profitable.
In most cases, report any dissatisfaction to mamasan and she will make it right.
MnV[/QUOTE]This pair of reports appeared in the latest edition of the Vienna Connection (apparently a small newspaper concerned with local events in the Vienna and surrounding areas):
[INDENT][Size=3][b]Crime Report[/b][/Size]
Wednesday, August 05, 2009
[i]Activities reported by the Vienna police department through July 31.[/i]
[b]Arrests[/b]
[Font=Courier New]100 Block Maple Ave., East. July 30, 8:14 p.m. MPO Burchfield and Sergeant Juelharte were summoned for a fight in progress call at the Best Healing Therapy. After arriving, it was learned that a terminated employee in another case had falsely summoned police. A female of Valley Stream, New York was arrested for Falsely Summoning Police. She was then transported to the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center and held on a $3000 bond.[/Font]
[b]Trespassing[/b]
[Font=Courier New]Best Healing Therapy, 112 Maple Ave., East. July 30, 4 p.m. MPO Burchfield responded on a complaint from a business owner. The owner had fired an employee and the employee refused to leave the building. After MPO Burchfield’s arrival the fired employee complied and vacated the premises.[/Font][/INDENT]Whether the former employee had been fired for poor customer service or some other reason is unknown, but it seems as though the MMS who runs this establishment wants to keep things on an even keel. As for the employee who was fired, $3000 bond amounts to a lot of tips.
R::R
There is a reason newbies are most often chided. They ask questions before they read the board. And there is a wealth of great information on this board.
For some time I had been intending to visit a new place not far from my usual travels/haunts. Reports on this place have been scarce (although they advertise a lot on CL). So, although they are not technically operating under the radar, I'd not heard a lot.
Recently a post identified a truly good provider. And as usual, the location was a bit vague. I thought I knew where this was. And a short PM confirmed (I was wrong. But, my brother monger told me the right place)
***TIP TO NEWBIES: in that PM, I demonstrated enough knowledge of the hobby and the area that the poster felt confident in sharing details. Lesson. It is better to exchange info than just to ask for info.
(ST) is in a good NoVA location (at least for me). It is marked with a standard entrance which provides some discretion (at least during the day when there are many reasons to be in that area) with plenty of parking.
I called ahead for an appointment with CANDY (MMS appreciates that. MMS also appreciates a happy customer that shows respect to her position and the ladies in her establishment).
(ST) is a nice facility. Larger than many. Well lit and appointed. I think I saw about 6 or more massage studios, plus rooms for laundry equipment, TS, etc. The massage table was wider than some and firm (but comfortable enough) draped in clean good quality linens. A balance bar ran along the ceiling for back-walking.
This was my first visit to (ST). But since I had called ahead and scheduled an appointment, everyone was at ease. CANDY assumed I was an old friend who had been traveling.
She subsequently provided me a great NoVA experience (not like a usual "first visit"). CANDY is a tall spinner with the most attractive shape and proportions I have ever seen in an AMP. Soft black hair, pretty eyes. She could not have weighed more than 100 pounds and was about 5'6" tall. She is good to talk to. And is a good conversationalist when you want to talk and is quiet when all you want is to relax.
The TS room was very nice. A true SPA type room, elevated table. CANDY provided me a nice TS experience (not the best I've had, but nice and enjoyed all).
Back to the room. A wonderful NoVA massage experience. Attitude means so much to enjoying an hour of relaxation. CANDY gets 10++ for attitude. (and I certainly enjoyed the hour. And it was a full hour with no clock watching and no rush). Standard rate for the hour (0.8). And I felt cheap for leaving a standard tip (but she did not even look at it).
CANDY is sweet and I hope to repeat.
This is a place I will visit again. This is a place where I will continue to try to always be nice to the ladies
PA
[QUOTE=Rrlightswitch]I can't stop thinking about getting a massage at an AMP. I'm very curious and was just wondering if anyone knows anything about bodywork treatment in manassas. Also, I'm 19, maybe look alittle younger, will this affect me getting the good stuff? . I know they charge 50 for the half hour so I will bring a hefty tip.
Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I'm 19 as well, and getting in to the AMPs is a little tricky. Many of them dont allow anyone under 21 or sometimes 25 so you'll have to call ahead and find out. If the best you can find is 21+ then go and hope they dont ask for ID.
[QUOTE=Roamin Roman]This pair of reports appeared in the latest edition of the Vienna Connection (apparently a small newspaper concerned with local events in the Vienna and surrounding areas):
[INDENT][Size=3][b]Crime Report[/b][/Size]
Wednesday, August 05, 2009
[i]Activities reported by the Vienna police department through July 31.[/i]
[b]Arrests[/b]
[Font=Courier New]100 Block Maple Ave., East. July 30, 8:14 p.m. MPO Burchfield and Sergeant Juelharte were summoned for a fight in progress call at the Best Healing Therapy. After arriving, it was learned that a terminated employee in another case had falsely summoned police. A female of Valley Stream, New York was arrested for Falsely Summoning Police. She was then transported to the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center and held on a $3000 bond.[/Font]
[b]Trespassing[/b]
[Font=Courier New]Best Healing Therapy, 112 Maple Ave., East. July 30, 4 p.m. MPO Burchfield responded on a complaint from a business owner. The owner had fired an employee and the employee refused to leave the building. After MPO Burchfield’s arrival the fired employee complied and vacated the premises.[/Font][/INDENT]Whether the former employee had been fired for poor customer service or some other reason is unknown, but it seems as though the MMS who runs this establishment wants to keep things on an even keel. As for the employee who was fired, $3000 bond amounts to a lot of tips.
RR[/QUOTE]
Wow! Think about it...This must have been a nasty fight! I agree with the other posters opinions about the Mamasans role. Having a $3,000 bond sounds like a pretty serious charge. I am sure the mamasan felt she had no chioce but to call the police because of the fired employee's behavior.
[QUOTE=OneHitWonders]Wow! Think about it. This must have been a nasty fight! $3, 000 bond sounds like a pretty serious charge.[/QUOTE]If I read the original post correctly, the arrest was for false reporting, not for fighting. $3, 000.00 bond equals about $300.00 bail. That isn't a penalty, it is a surety against the defendant not showing up for court. Don't show up and the bond is forfeited. If she used a bail/bondsman and doesn't show up, he will send his posse after her. I don't think she can backwalk her way out of that one!
The $3K bond is to make sure people don't call 911 for any ol' reason. Pretty good law to have when you are asking yourself "where is a cop when you need one." Hopefully, he isn't at the local AMP on a false call.
AD
Tried a spot upstairs that has been open for about two months and you can find on CL.
Went this last Saturday afternoon and place was too busy for comfort. Arrived and was tucked away in mamas office while she cleared out some traffic. Pretty young lady opened the door after another monger arrived to see if she could stash him there but I just smiled back and she took him elsewhere. Was hoping that she would return but another K girl assigned to take care of business.
After 20 min wait was guided back to TS for fairly good session. Back to room and short massage started with a lot of back walking to follow. Yuki seemed hurried, which I could understand, but on the flip she dropped her top to a pair of aftermarket Cs without my asking or roaming. Good stomach massage before final event.
Apologized for the rushed session. About 50 min but said if I wanted more to return Tues or Wed with gear ready and she would take care of me much better.
Not a bad first visit.
Looks 7, Massagee 5, Finish 8.
.8 house and.5 tip with promise of things to CUM!
Bird Dropping's report - accurate and valuable information.
Thanks
Saw Mindy at Kim's last night.
Good personality, attractive, good massage, as usual no problem at Kim's.
Tell her John sent you.
Does anyone have any info on Maryjane &/or Julie who advertise on Backpage? I don't need details and I'm not fishing for incriminating facts - I just want to ensure it's not a rip-off, like taking your minutes for just sitting there and talking, "how-dare-you-suggest-I-do-something-like-that" type of scenario.
Maryjane's latest ad: [url]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy_pretty_fun_swfs_1_2_girl_bodyrubs_incall_outcall_27/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1933971[/url]
Julie's latest ad: [url]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cute_25/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1940888[/url]
Do you see any other red flags going off? I couldn't find any TER reviews and i searched these forums under Virginia and didn't come up with anything.
Thanks all
[QUOTE=Classy Mike]Bird Dropping's report - accurate and valuable information.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I have been calling the number Bird gave me all week. No answer and mailbox is full - can't leave a message.
Today I went to NSP instead. Big mistake! Lee was the therapist. Too much talking, smelled of cigarettes, and engaged in an embarassing, blatant, upsell. After shower takes me to room and asks what I want. I say $ for everything. She says she charges $ for hand release and soft touch massage. Feels like everything. I said no. .4 for hand release. She kept trying to get me to agree to $. She finally left the room then I got up and got dressed. She seemed surprised when she returned and I was tying my shoes. Some fake acting and fake tears. I told her I did not appreciate her trying to ripp me off. I said she should learn the rates when she comes to a new place and not be so greedy. She said OK, OK, everything for $. Too late. Ruined the mood.
Mama refunded my house fee. Was very apologetic and said she would get a new girl soon. I have had great times there before with Judy, Anna, and another lady who's name escapes me at the moment.
[QUOTE=Brdcsttech]I have been calling the number Bird gave me all week. No answer and mailbox is full - can't leave a message.
Today I went to NSP instead. Big mistake! Lee was the therapist. Too much talking, smelled of cigarettes, and engaged in an embarassing, blatant, upsell. After shower takes me to room and asks what I want. I say $ for everything. She says she charges $ for hand release and soft touch massage. Feels like everything. I said no. .4 for hand release. She kept trying to get me to agree to $. She finally left the room then I got up and got dressed. She seemed surprised when she returned and I was tying my shoes. Some fake acting and fake tears. I told her I did not appreciate her trying to ripp me off. I said she should learn the rates when she comes to a new place and not be so greedy. She said OK, OK, everything for $. Too late. Ruined the mood.
Mama refunded my house fee. Was very apologetic and said she would get a new girl soon. I have had great times there before with Judy, Anna, and another lady who's name escapes me at the moment.[/QUOTE]I may have benefitted from the mama's ire. I visited today at sunset, on a whim, not having seen the quoted report. Lee was on duty and as obliging as one could ask. Good TS, good massage, very liberal roaming, standard tip accepted with fawning thanks. Would repeat. Lordy, these places are variable in the extreme.
A reliable source tells me Far East is being gazed upon by a pair of big blue eyeballs. In this same county pedestrian deaths have nearly tripled since last year. Let's be careful out there. BC
Guys, I need a reccommendation on AMP in the area. I will be staying in Alexandria for the weekend and will need some relief. I'll only have time and funds for one or two visits. I'm not against seeing a condo girl if that is where the action and spinners are.
PM me if you want to keep it private.
thx
Stopped by on a first visit based on other reports. The mamasan lead me to the room and requested the 1hr.8 fare. I asked to see the girls and she said that two were busy and she would send in Candi her best girl. She is an attractive k-girl with a nice rack. Went to the TS which was ok the back to the room. Towel on the whole time during the massage which I am not fond. I did some roaming with no refuesal. Then, I told her I brought a cover, she held out her hand, took it and began to strip. Nice 34C-26-34 shape (confirmed). Afterwards, she demanded $.5 which was WAY out of line. We went back and forth for about 5 minuted haggeling. She was not going to budge and neither was I. I have been around and I do not pay $.5 uinless everything is exceptional and nothing in NOVA has been exceptional. Tops is $. At best she was a 6 and was a bit rushed. Return? Probably not. Don't care for the staff or neighborhood.
I have had good results with FE. If they truely believe you have been there before, the menu is great. Nice, new, clean appearance. However, this was several weeks ago. It looks like the good guys are camping out. Heads-up
My last visit was about 4-5 months ago so I decided to stop in after a long visit to SpaWorld. Only one person there about 40ish with an ok shape. Since I just had a shower, we decided to wait after the masaage. The massage was good about -9 and she even gave me a good foot scrub and lotion foot massage. After talking a bit, she remembered me and chatted a while. On the flip, she said how about a light pubic trim? OK, be careful with the boys. TS then she dropped her panties and began a good wash which I helped her with. DATY? not for me. But, I am sure it is on the menu. Then back to the room for a standard NOVA finish. Total about 1-1/2hr probably because no one was else was there in the afternoon. Damages .8/.75
[QUOTE=Justdandy]Does anyone have any info on Maryjane &/or Julie who advertise on Backpage? I don't need details and I'm not fishing for incriminating facts - I just want to ensure it's not a rip-off, like taking your minutes for just sitting there and talking, "how-dare-you-suggest-I-do-something-like-that" type of scenario.
Maryjane's latest ad: [url]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy_pretty_fun_swfs_1_2_girl_bodyrubs_incall_outcall_27/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1933971[/url]
Julie's latest ad: [url]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cute_25/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1940888[/url]
Do you see any other red flags going off? I couldn't find any TER reviews and i searched these forums under Virginia and didn't come up with anything.
Thanks all[/QUOTE]A couple of updates on this.
There is another variant of Maryjane's add that lists a girl named Augusta and yet another variant that lists "Maryjane" and "Julie" together. The photos on Backpage tie them all together.
So this morning I tried calling the 703 # several times over the course of an hour. Sweet sounding female voice on the recording. I never got through to someone live and I chose not to leave a vmail (and I appreciate the fact they didn't call me back off caller id).
I tried Julie's 202 # once, no answer.
So I called up Sapphire Entertainment (bluegems.com) and had a very nice time with new girl, Brook.
After sitting out for a while decided to give things another go.
Reports lead me to believe that Crown was new, clean & had a nice staff. Reports were right. Stand-up shower not what I'm used to, but it's new, clean & right next to a sauna. First visit w/Jae (this was about a mo ago. Not sure if she's still there). Very nice, good service, attention to detail on the massage. Second visit w/Bebe. While I've read some nice reviews on her, I wasn't so impressed. When she greeted me, she asked if I had called in. I hadn't, so I'm thinking she was expecting someone & she was by herself. Sure enough, the door rang 15 mins into my hour & she was back & forth a few times trying to make everyone happy. Overall, decent, but service could have been better. I'll giver her the BOD & assume she was distracted.
Most recently, checked out Kim's. I can see why this place is a regular for so many. Nice place. Mamasan greeted at door. Took me back collected 1 hr fee & promised "nice pretty girl". Mindy followed a few minutes afterwards. Great personality, good hard massage that included a walk on my back. Standard NoVa fare, no clock watching. Even during mid-day, got a full hour. Offered a bottle of H2O & out the door. She says she'll be in the area for a few months. I'd probably see again, but still checking things out. It's great to be back!
[QUOTE=Vahotguy]I told her I brought a cover, she held out her hand, took it and began to strip. Nice 34C-26-34 shape (confirmed). Afterwards, she demanded $.5 which was WAY out of line. We went back and forth for about 5 minuted haggeling. She was not going to budge and neither was I. I have been around and I do not pay $.5 uinless everything is exceptional and nothing in NOVA has been exceptional. Tops is $. At best she was a 6 and was a bit rushed.[/QUOTE]Dude, I hate to say it, but she was probably more justified in demanding her price rather than you in sticking to yours. You don't sit down in a restaurant and finish a steak dinner without knowing the price up-front. Even if the steak weren't tender, you tacitly accepted their price when you ordered and began eating.
It's the same way with a gal at an AMP: You partook before knowing her price, so you were kinda obligated to pay her. (Granted, $.5 is high, but it's not out of range for FS. Now, if she demanded 1k$ or something like [u]that[/u], then you might have been justified in saying "No." But, as it stands, she deserved to be paid. You were at fault for not enquiring up-front as to her price. If you had done that, her price might have been a bit lower. But who knows?)
Just my two Liras' worth
RR
I remember my first trip to Green's and the young (about 28) asking for $$ for the sweet sugar walls. She claimed she was younger the most and therefore I was getting so much better.
Then I stuck to $ and she gave in. Some realize it is better to have something (fair) then nothing at all.
I have had other times were they did not come to my price and I offered to leave with nothing, she tried to complained when I did not tip for the massage and my response was as they always say in the AMP business "So sorry, maybe next time". Yes, if any give exceptional service she would be entitled to more. TIP is just that a thank you for going beyond the usual mechanical experience. Making someone feel welcome and not just a payment is exceptional service is not usually translate here.
My main concern is finding a cuie that even provides true service. I remember back in 2003, when I came to the area for my first interview. I picked from the phone book and arranged with what promised to be an FS deal. When she got to the hotel room and received the funs this is when she said she is an escort so where would I like her to escort me. At 2 am in NOVA not much to pay for. Of course, I called the service to complain but not much can be done; would anyone be willing to put up a fight in a public hotel.
You live, you learn.
This is why I stay with the AMP but they too have deteriorated in their services over the years. Going back to 2003/2004 many flavors available and the quality was usually nice. The scene has lagged since but appears to be picking up at time but you have to be ready to settle for old and wiser but this does not always translate into a more experienced massage…
Just an old man recollecting; thanks for your time.
[QUOTE=Roamin Roman]Dude, I hate to say it, but she was probably more justified in demanding her price rather than you in sticking to yours. You don't sit down in a restaurant and finish a steak dinner without knowing the price up-front. Even if the steak weren't tender, you tacitly accepted their price when you ordered and began eating.
It's the same way with a gal at an AMP: You partook before knowing her price, so you were kinda obligated to pay her. (Granted, $.5 is high, but it's not out of range for FS. Now, if she demanded 1k$ or something like [u]that[/u], then you might have been justified in saying "No." But, as it stands, she deserved to be paid. You were at fault for not enquiring up-front as to her price. (If you had done that, her price might have been a bit lower. But who knows?)
Just my two Liras' worth
RR[/QUOTE]
At some point you have to ask why there are practically zero therapists under 32 in the entire D.C./NoVA/Maryland area AMP/AAAMP scene. Some of it is going to be a product of local policies but a lot of it comes to this area being full of cheapskates. At some point you have to say that youth has some value in and of itself or else don't be upset when you're stuck with a bunch of old, tired therapists who aren't worth a $.
I am not surprised at all that One Spa, Kim's, Eastern 216, JS, Silk, TTT, NSP, Lily's, Palm, the Ballston hair place, Vermont etc. all lost their under 30 providers within one year. If it were me, I would have moved to CA, Florida, AZ, Washington or New York in less than half the time. At those places just mentioned $$ isn't an unusual standard for youth, even if you aren't getting some hyper-spiritual mong experience of the ages.
It's not just the state of the economy causing the scene to be the worst it has ever been, but the fact that the standard prices in the D.C. area are too low and hobbyists insist on paying a flat rate even when it is not reasonable to do so. You get what you pay for.
i believe you are incorrect of you assumption that NY has more willing recipients than the DC area. I used to frequent in NY; Long Island, Manhattan and Queens areas and I can tell you the prices are clear and the same or less.
The real deal is the girls once used up (or been busted too much) on that circuit must move on. They hit Boston, some go west but when they are finally fresh here in NOVA and DC they are no longer a spring chicken (excuse the meat reference, please).
You should not blame the "cheapskates" in this area. Most of the time in NY area they are paying off their debt (in getting to the US) and once that is paid they are free to roam. By that time, they are usually in their 30s. Just think how hard is was for these K and C girls to get US a visa, do you think they could have obtained them without assistance? A lot more controls on the girls until they are older and less desired.
No, it is not cheapskates in this area the girls are just more knowing. If we got the ladies "off the boat" as NY and SF does, things would be different her; it was different 5 short years ago before my first departure from this area.
The only thing I would like people around here to understand is we can set the price but if we give in to the make-up then they will continue to do so. Previous some here published a good guideline for "tipping" and I will suggest we keep to it. would also suggest we find out who is the real "mamasan" and ask her/him to please bring up some younger action.
In this case the market can dictate. More places are opening up, if you ask for a line-up and do not like the selection, tell the management and then tell them to get someone who will not remind you of you mother and grandmother (oriental version)
My 2 cents, thank you
[QUOTE=Xsham]At some point you have to ask why there are practically zero therapists under 32 in the entire D.C./NoVA/Maryland area AMP/AAAMP scene. Some of it is going to be a product of local policies but a lot of it comes to this area being full of cheapskates. At some point you have to say that youth has some value in and of itself or else don't be upset when you're stuck with a bunch of old, tired therapists who aren't worth a $.
I am not surprised at all that One Spa, Kim's, Eastern 216, JS, Silk, TTT, NSP, Lily's, Palm, the Ballston hair place, Vermont etc. all lost their under 30 providers within one year. If it were me, I would have moved to CA, Florida, AZ, Washington or New York in less than half the time. At those places just mentioned $$ isn't an unusual standard for youth, even if you aren't getting some hyper-spiritual mong experience of the ages.
It's not just the state of the economy causing the scene to be the worst it has ever been, but the fact that the standard prices in the D.C. area are too low and hobbyists insist on paying a flat rate even when it is not reasonable to do so. You get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Justforme]i believe you are incorrect of you assumption that NY has more willing recipients than the DC area. I used to frequent in NY; Long Island, Manhattan and Queens areas and I can tell you the prices are clear and the same or less.
The real deal is the girls once used up (or been busted too much) on that circuit must move on. They hit Boston, some go west but when they are finally fresh here in NOVA and DC they are no longer a spring chicken (excuse the meat reference, please).
You should not blame the "cheapskates" in this area. Most of the time in NY area they are paying off their debt (in getting to the US) and once that is paid they are free to roam. By that time, they are usually in their 30s. Just think how hard is was for these K and C girls to get US a visa, do you think they could have obtained them without assistance? A lot more controls on the girls until they are older and less desired.
No, it is not cheapskates in this area the girls are just more knowing. If we got the ladies "off the boat" as NY and SF does, things would be different her; it was different 5 short years ago before my first departure from this area.
The only thing I would like people around here to understand is we can set the price but if we give in to the make-up then they will continue to do so. Previous some here published a good guideline for "tipping" and I will suggest we keep to it. would also suggest we find out who is the real "mamasan" and ask her/him to please bring up some younger action.
In this case the market can dictate. More places are opening up, if you ask for a line-up and do not like the selection, tell the management and then tell them to get someone who will not remind you of you mother and grandmother (oriental version)
My 2 cents, thank you[/QUOTE]
No offense, Justforme, but your 2 cents is worth about, well, 2 cents.
To begin with, the women who work in the massage industry do so for a plethora of reasons. But the ones who are working off debt which they incurred to come to the U.S., almost without exception, did not incur that debt by getting a visa. They are, in fact, usually un-documented. In other words, they were trafficked.
Many of these women, however, are here legally and incurred debt either from a failed business or, most often, from gambling. Others are women who got here by marrying Americans (often service men) and those marriages failed. Regardless of how they incurred debt, the ones who begin their tour of the U.S. in NYC do not stay there until they have paid off their debt. And they are not constrained from working elsewhere until they have done so. It can take a woman (especially if she is un-documented) years to pay off the debt which she owes to the snakeheads who smuggled her in.
There is simply not enough opportunity for them do so in NYC. What you don't understand is that the security which they have pledged to guarantee their loans is not their physical being. They are not even, strictly speaking, required to work in the sex industry. If they could pay off their debts by working as waitresses, they are free to do so and they could do so in any city of their choosing. What secures their debt until they are able to clear it is the family which they have left behind.
You are correct that for many of them (often the illegals), their first port of call is New York City (often Flushing/Queens). But you are incorrect that they stay there until they are used up. They are there for other reasons than what you seem to be suggesting. The reasons for their being in New York is that they have a greater support structure there. They often stay there just long enough to get somewhat acclimated to life in the U.S., learn a bit of English, and then be processed "through the system". This means finding an AMP or spa in another state which will give them a job.
And finally, you are wrong about the reason that AMP girls in places like D.C. are increasingly older. It is not because, as you suggest, that they come here after they are too old to work in the greater N.Y.C. area. It is simply because of changing demographic, social, and economic conditions in their countries of origin (mostly the Republic Of Korea and the Yanbian area of the People's Republic of China). As you may or may not be aware, South Korea and the PRC, are in the midst of an economic boom period. The societies of South Korea and China are also increasingly less male dominated than they once were. Therefore young, attractive women have economic opportunities which do not involve illegally entering the U.S. and working in the sex industry.
I don't know about everyone else, but for me, I'm sick of the dis-information and mis-information which you seem to love to post. However, I wish that if you must continue to post, you could bring yourself to try just a little harder to express yourself using correct grammar and spelling. And finally, an "oriental" is a carpet, not a person. The correct term is "Asian."
LexLuther
Once again found myself by Panera in Falls Church this morning. So I went to the 2nd floor, and again saw Kelly for a half hour. Large (but somewhat saggy) rack, nice lower half. She is in shape.
I will tell you that the place gets very little traffic in the mornings. Kelly told me it was unusual to get anyone before noon, and usually less than 4 before 5pm.
I did not see MMS today, which was a shame. I hope some day she is the provider - knockout body.
This is a no TS place, so the massage began right away. Again, it was lackluster. At the flip, thee was a little front massage and then I was presented with a menu more expansive than at most NOVA places. I went middle of the road on my selection, which I thought was a deal for $.5. Usually a $.6-$.8 service in DC. While it was, again, somewhat mechanical, it was pleasant. Upstairs roaming was allowed inside, downstairs outside was permitted - didn't try to get inside. This time.
At some point I am going to order the most expensive thing on the menu, being $1. I think it could be fun, seeing as how in-shape she is.
I haven't seen much of other providers there, and I've only ever had Kelly as my provider, so I can't vouch for the rest of the staff.
But if you've got The Fever and some time to kill on a weekend morning, I would recommend. Very good value for the money.