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[QUOTE=AsaMona22;4326028]Ahhh copy, in the heat of the moment.
Thanks Chris93![/QUOTE]No problem man just stick it in once you get the ok don't over think it's usually a boner killer that's why I turn my brain off but if you see any signs that don't look good step back better to be safe and have blue balls then get a possible std.
Hey, have a question wanted opinions from you guys.
I have a good SB of over one year, and we have BBFS, DATY and DFK during intimacy. Recently she had her first 10 panel STD test and surprisingly she is HSV1 positive. I got worried and tested mine and is clean, like before. She never had any genital symptoms but did have cold sores before.
So could her HSV-1 from cold sore instead of sexaul transmission? Can we stil do DATY and BB or must use cover now.
Also, heard 50-70% of worlds population has HSV1 positive- that to me means HSV-1 must transmitted other than sex, if so should it even be considered STD?
Comment?
There are eight Herpetic viruses. Herpes simplex type 1 is not considered a sexually transmitted disease. It typically resides in the trigeminal ganglion and when activated typically (99%) travels to the mouth, lip, face but on occasion (1%) can take a detour to the eye or eyelid and that can be bad news. HSV type 2 is more characteristically is a sexually transmitted disease. Genital to genital. HSV type 1 can infect skin if you have an open wound or sore leading to Herpetic Whitlow so you would want to be safe as active oral HSV 1 could contaminate an open wound if that person did not already have antibody resistance to HSV 1 from previous exposure. As most people over 20 do. Originally thought to be 95% of people over 20, it is now thought to be about 70% but this is easily identified on a blood draw looking for IgG HSV1 - and this is again, not considered sexually transmitted. Herpes Zoster (Shingles) is a different herpetic virus. Reactivated Chicken Pox. And while it is not sexually transmitted, if you are over 50, you need the new 2-part vaccination. Even if you have had previous shingles or the previous, less-effective vaccination. Should you develop an STD, HZV infection is more likely to develop particularly if it is from HIV. Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Statecho;4330142]Hey, have a question wanted opinions from you guys.
I have a good SB of over one year, and we have BBFS, DATY and DFK during intimacy. Recently she had her first 10 panel STD test and surprisingly she is HSV1 positive. I got worried and tested mine and is clean, like before. She never had any genital symptoms but did have cold sores before.
So could her HSV-1 from cold sore instead of sexaul transmission? Can we stil do DATY and BB or must use cover now.
Also, heard 50-70% of worlds population has HSV1 positive- that to me means HSV-1 must transmitted other than sex, if so should it even be considered STD?
Comment?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GovernorsClub;4330245]There are eight Herpetic viruses. Herpes simplex type 1 is not considered a sexually transmitted disease. It typically resides in the trigeminal ganglion and when activated typically (99%) travels to the mouth, lip, face but on occasion (1%) can take a detour to the eye or eyelid and that can be bad news. HSV type 2 is more characteristically is a sexually transmitted disease. Genital to genital. HSV type 1 can infect skin if you have an open wound or sore leading to Herpetic Whitlow so you would want to be safe as active oral HSV 1 could contaminate an open wound if that person did not already have antibody resistance to HSV 1 from previous exposure. As most people over 20 do. Originally thought to be 95% of people over 20, it is now thought to be about 70% but this is easily identified on a blood draw looking for IgG HSV1 - and this is again, not considered sexually transmitted. Herpes Zoster (Shingles) is a different herpetic virus. Reactivated Chicken Pox. And while it is not sexually transmitted, if you are over 50, you need the new 2-part vaccination. Even if you have had previous shingles or the previous, less-effective vaccination. Should you develop an STD, HZV infection is more likely to develop particularly if it is from HIV. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Thanks! That is very informative.
[QUOTE=CnjDevilish;4373321]I've used this service. It was 100% anonymous. Went to a LabCorp location. No ID needed and I got my results in 2 days via e-mail.
[URL]https://www.stdcheck.com/std-test-pricing.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting that. You stepped on a 'hot button' for me, so I'll pull out the old soapbox.
On the STD thread elsewhere on this site, there still is a fair amount of ignorance surrounding HIV testing. Oh and I run into it with girls as well. When HIV was first discovered and the big scare went, out the only tools available for detection were the Gen 1 & 2 antibody tests. But like brick cell phones, technology marches on and now we are up to Gen 4 testing and optional RNA testing. The point is that exposure to HIV can now be detected as soon as 9-11 days after exposure / infection. That is because the RNA test actually looks for or detects the virus. The 'old" tests looked for antibodies, made by the immune system in response to the virus. In some people it took their bodies / immune systems up to 3 months to produce antibodies. Gen 4 testing looks for antibodies AND antigens and the antigens appear and this can be detected much sooner than antibodies. So new tech finds the actual virus sooner.
[B]So no more of this:[/B] [I]"You have to get tested and be clean, then wait & be celibate or monogamous another 3-months for one to 'truly' know they are free of HIV!"[/I] OK? Got iT? If you want to know go get the Gen 4 testing. If you REALLY need to know NOW- get the RNA testing!
This is a nice quick summary from that link:
[B] [I] What are the differences between the HIV RNA test and the HIV 4th Generation Antibody test?[/B]
The HIV RNA test can detect HIV sooner than any other HIV test; as early as 9-11 days after exposure. The HIV 4th Generation Antibody test can detect HIV 2-3 weeks after exposure. The HIV RNA test detects the HIV virus in the blood by seeking out its genetic material (RNA), whereas the HIV 4th Generation Antibody test detects HIV antibodies and antigens. Antibodies are proteins created by the body's immune system to try to destroy foreign substances like bacteria or viruses, in this case HIV. Antigens are the foreign substances that cause an immune response-- the HIV Antibody test detects HIV p24 antigens. [/I].
Now as far as that site being "private?" I dunno? You want that lab showing up as a charge on the permanent record with your Credit Card company? Are you going to be able to get results sent to hobby email? Will you have to show I'd at the test center? Looks like they use Quest Diagnosis and Lab Corp as the phlebotomists.
If you want an education about the history of HIV testing, to cure any personal ignorance or conteract false "beliefs" one has picked up in the locker room, go here:
[URL]https://cvi.asm.org/content/23/4/249[/URL]
Attached is a table that shows the Generations of HIV Testing.
While ignorance maybe bliss, education & knowledge will keep you safe.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;4373753]Thanks for posting that. You stepped on a 'hot button' for me, so I'll pull out the old soapbox.
On the STD thread elsewhere on this site, there still is a fair amount of ignorance surrounding HIV testing. Oh and I run into it with girls as well. When HIV was first discovered and the big scare went, out the only tools available for detection were the Gen 1 & 2 antibody tests. But like brick cell phones, technology marches on and now we are up to Gen 4 testing and optional RNA testing. The point is that exposure to HIV can now be detected as soon as 9-11 days after exposure / infection. That is because the RNA test actually looks for or detects the virus. The 'old" tests looked for antibodies, made by the immune system in response to the virus. In some people it took their bodies / immune systems up to 3 months to produce antibodies. Gen 4 testing looks for antibodies AND antigens and the antigens appear and this can be detected much sooner than antibodies. So new tech finds the actual virus sooner.
[B]So no more of this:[/B] [I]"You have to get tested and be clean, then wait & be celibate or monogamous another 3-months for one to 'truly' know they are free of HIV!"[/I] OK? Got iT? If you want to know go get the Gen 4 testing. If you REALLY need to know NOW- get the RNA testing!
This is a nice quick summary from that link:
[B] [I] What are the differences between the HIV RNA test and the HIV 4th Generation Antibody test?[/B]
The HIV RNA test can detect HIV sooner than any other HIV test; as early as 9-11 days after exposure. The HIV 4th Generation Antibody test can detect HIV 2-3 weeks after exposure. The HIV RNA test detects the HIV virus in the blood by seeking out its genetic material (RNA), whereas the HIV 4th Generation Antibody test detects HIV antibodies and antigens. Antibodies are proteins created by the body's immune system to try to destroy foreign substances like bacteria or viruses, in this case HIV. Antigens are the foreign substances that cause an immune response-- the HIV Antibody test detects HIV p24 antigens. [/I].
Now as far as that site being "private?" I dunno? You want that lab showing up as a charge on the permanent record with your Credit Card company? Are you going to be able to get results sent to hobby email? Will you have to show I'd at the test center? Looks like they use Quest Diagnosis and Lab Corp as the phlebotomists.
If you want an education about the history of HIV testing, to cure any personal ignorance or conteract false "beliefs" one has picked up in the locker room, go here:
[URL]https://cvi.asm.org/content/23/4/249[/URL]
Attached is a table that shows the Generations of HIV Testing.
While ignorance maybe bliss, education & knowledge will keep you safe.[/QUOTE]I really do appreciate the detailed information, you could literally spend hours looking for info like that and still not find it. Seems way counter productive to me. Meaning making info like that hard to find. Has anyone had experience at the county / state clinic? Not sure who runs it but the one in Wilmington. What exactly do they make you do?
Ive thought about just going once every other month or so just as a precaution but want to know ahead of time just how handsy theyll be.
You know the system is broke if I even have to ask that. If they wanted to stop of these diseases they would just let anyone be tested no questions asked. Addicts would never show up and they literally are their target market. How to fuck up public health.....
Deleted this part because I was drunk and stupid. Life happens.
[QUOTE=Strange;4374476]I really do appreciate the detailed information, you could literally spend hours looking for info like that and still not find it. Seems way counter productive to me. Meaning making info like that hard to find. Has anyone had experience at the county / state clinic? Not sure who runs it but the one in Wilmington. What exactly do they make you do?
Ive thought about just going once every other month or so just as a precaution but want to know ahead of time just how handsy theyll be.
You know the system is broke if I even have to ask that. If they wanted to stop of these diseases they would just let anyone be tested no questions asked. Addicts would never show up and they literally are their target market. How to fuck up public health.....
Deleted this part because I was drunk and stupid. Life happens.[/QUOTE]Girl told me the other day that there is free testing at the BCC clinic on uLA for HIV & HepC!. So I looked it up! They have a "drop in" clinic open Monday – Friday 7 am to 12 pm.
[URL]https://www.brandywinecounseling.com/drop-in-center/[/URL]
Get a clean bill of health & perhaps find a date while your there? LOL!
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;4375167]Girl told me the other day that there is free testing at the BCC clinic on uLA for HIV & HepC!. So I looked it up! They have a "drop in" clinic open Monday Friday 7 am to 12 pm.
[URL]https://www.brandywinecounseling.com/drop-in-center/[/URL]
Get a clean bill of health & perhaps find a date while your there? LOL![/QUOTE]I used a location in CC. Last time was a year or so ago. This visit was a result of a failed latex product.
I used it before maybe 10 years ago, been there awhile. They do ask a lot of information on sexual history.
Before you had to return for results now you're in and out with results.
Now, not even a uncovered BJ. There is just too much risk. You are more likely to contract other STD's than the dreaded one.
[QUOTE=GovernorsClub;4330245]There are eight Herpetic viruses. Herpes simplex type 1 is not considered a sexually transmitted disease. It typically resides in the trigeminal ganglion and when activated typically (99%) travels to the mouth, lip, face but on occasion (1%) can take a detour to the eye or eyelid and that can be bad news. HSV type 2 is more characteristically is a sexually transmitted disease. Genital to genital. HSV type 1 can infect skin if you have an open wound or sore leading to Herpetic Whitlow so you would want to be safe as active oral HSV 1 could contaminate an open wound if that person did not already have antibody resistance to HSV 1 from previous exposure. As most people over 20 do. Originally thought to be 95% of people over 20, it is now thought to be about 70% but this is easily identified on a blood draw looking for IgG HSV1 - and this is again, not considered sexually transmitted. Herpes Zoster (Shingles) is a different herpetic virus. Reactivated Chicken Pox. And while it is not sexually transmitted, if you are over 50, you need the new 2-part vaccination. Even if you have had previous shingles or the previous, less-effective vaccination. Should you develop an STD, HZV infection is more likely to develop particularly if it is from HIV. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Actually they are looking at Herpesvirus as a cause or co-morbidity for Alzheimer's Disease.
[URL]https://www.alzforum.org/news/conference-coverage/herpesvirus-trigger-many-brain-pathologies[/URL]
[QUOTE=JRichard;4375528]
Now, not even a uncovered BJ. There is just too much risk. You are more likely to contract other STD's than the dreaded one.[/QUOTE]OK are we going to go down this path?
The way one plays with a girl is a personal choice and basically hinges on how one perceives risk. Everyone is different and generally humans are terrible at proper perception of and management of risk. Everyone is allowed to make their own judgements, however.
Yes, transmission rates from women to men are VERY low for HIV. Especially important is having in tact, uncompromised, skin on your penis. The skin was designed to be a barrier and a pretty good one at that. However, if there are cuts, scrapes, rashes, abrasion or worn down skin the barrier can be compromised and less effective.
But of course as the conservatives want you to know. You can't catch an STD if one stays in a monogamous relationship with a clean / tested girl. Oh and condoms help too!
What gets me is when people make judgements based on bad information, rumor or innuendo.
The statement "There is too much risk" is not absolutely true.
I'll refer to this statement from a post on this site, thanks to FooteRoger for doing all of the work:
[I] Frankly, the epidemiology does not support that bareback sex is particularly dangerous. The risk of pregnancy can, of course, be high. I have the opportunity to read quite a few studies in my course of work. I've posted a rough summary to the following image. [/I] He provides a link to the source of his info, Picture link is dead now. I had a copy of that photo but was on a disk that crashed. See below to see the level of women to me "risk!
Post # 734 [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3179369&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3179369.
[I] Correction on the Herpes HSV2 no condom transmission rate. Should read. 015% or 1/6700 sex acts. [/I]
Post # 737 [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3180791&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3180791.
[B]Now this is key - Do not continue this discussion here.
[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3643384&viewfull=1[/URL][/URL][/URL]#post3643384.
If one posts safe sex discussions in the normal threads two things happen:
1) It starts a fire storm of "opinions" and flame wars.
So Admin does NOT want a bunch of arguing clogging up reports on girls, so he set up this place where the discussion can take place. One is free to discuss Safe Sex practices or lack thereof there.
[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice/[/URL][/URL].[/URL].
No need to hold back on one's essay there!
2) The post gets taken down by the Admin. I know this for a fact.[/b]
I think everyone should examine the facts surrounding the issue as to re-evaluate the actual risks involved. If one can be objective, set fear aside and rationally examine the facts, then perhaps one might change their beliefs?
Stay safe
P.S. My "tomes" on this topic can be found below. I have pounded the table on this topic over the years:
[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3643384&viewfull=1[/URL][/URL][/URL]#post3643384.
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[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3645325&viewfull=1[/URL][/URL][/URL]#post3645325.
[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3645346&viewfull=1[/URL][/URL][/URL]#post3645346.
[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3653620&viewfull=1[/URL][/URL][/URL]#post3653620.
[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3653726&viewfull=1[/URL][/URL][/URL]#post3653726.
[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3653765&viewfull=1[/URL][/URL][/URL]#post3653765.
[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3666532&viewfull=1[/URL][/URL][/URL]#post3666532.
[URL][URL][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=3675966&viewfull=1[/URL][/URL][/URL]#post3675966.
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Hi all, I'm sure this has been asked but its hard to search this thread, how safe am I doing everything covered (including BJ)? I've seen around 20 providers over the years and I always used a condom for everything I HAVE NOT caught a single std thank god. However, I wasnt aware of the skin on skin stds like herpes or the clap at that time. I do belive I got a fungal infection from a provider before but it wasnt classified as an std and a simple cream got rid of it.
I'm asking because I haven't been into the hobby for about 4 years and am about start again. I'm going to stick to seeing one girl only that claims to do everything covered, not even BBBJ. I'm hoping this will be the safest route.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;4373753]Thanks for posting that. You stepped on a 'hot button' for me, so I'll pull out the old soapbox.
On the STD thread elsewhere on this site, there still is a fair amount of ignorance surrounding HIV testing. Oh and I run into it with girls as well. When HIV was first discovered and the big scare went, out the only tools available for detection were the Gen 1 & 2 antibody tests. But like brick cell phones, technology marches on and now we are up to Gen 4 testing and optional RNA testing. The point is that exposure to HIV can now be detected as soon as 9-11 days after exposure / infection. That is because the RNA test actually looks for or detects the virus. The 'old" tests looked for antibodies, made by the immune system in response to the virus. In some people it took their bodies / immune systems up to 3 months to produce antibodies. Gen 4 testing looks for antibodies AND antigens and the antigens appear and this can be detected much sooner than antibodies. So new tech finds the actual virus sooner.
[B]So no more of this:[/B] [I]"You have to get tested and be clean, then wait & be celibate or monogamous another 3-months for one to 'truly' know they are free of HIV!"[/I] OK? Got iT? If you want to know go get the Gen 4 testing. If you REALLY need to know NOW- get the RNA testing!
This is a nice quick summary from that link:.[/QUOTE]I've used privatemdlabs in the past. Great site.
To add on, HIV treatment is at the point where you can get to detection levels these standard tests can't detect. That isn't a cure, but essentially you can't pass it on with such low levels and it won't progress at that point. Unfortunately, not everyone has access to insurance so those engaging in risky behavior should understand the risk is there.
It is pretty difficult to acquire HIV too. If exchange of bodily fluids during sexual activity did not occur inside the body, the risk is zero according to less conservative professionals. If you have a fresh wound, exchange of fluids does pose a risk since it has direct access to your blood stream. Fresh and open are the key words since something from a couple hours ago has already sealed up. However this is assuming the other person is leaking enough bodily fluid onto the wound. I'm sure we all know HIV dies once it contacts air which is why unprotected sex and direct access to open wounds are the biggest risks.
Has anyone got tested for STD? Please let me know if it can be done anonymously?
I am thinking to get tested now just to know my status. I don't have any symptoms though.
I found this site.
[URL]https://www.stdcheck.com[/URL]
Has any one tried it?
[QUOTE=Freakd172;4386859]Has anyone got tested for STD? Please let me know if it can be done anonymously?
I am thinking to get tested now just to know my status. I don't have any symptoms though.
I found this site.
[URL]https://www.stdcheck.com[/URL]
Has any one tried it?[/QUOTE]I've used the site. Easy breezy. They claim private, but it's definitely not anonymous -- they need your name and billing info for payment. Not sure if there is a way around that with pre-paid debit cards and fake info. I haven't tried. Maybe someone else here knows.
I've also used planned parenthood and paid cash to keep the tests off of my insurance.
So I'm trying to get some input on what most of you think is the best condom for getting sensation and feeling like nothing is there.
Several years ago there was a direct condom on the market called the Avanti super thin it had a black and purple box and wrap her they were polyurethane not late to ask if you squirted a little bit of lubricant on the inside of the condom and then put it on I swear to god it felt like you were fucking bareback repeatedly many times I would pull out look down thinking it had broken but it was there I love them you could have safe sex and it felt like bareback sex fast forward many years and quit making that condom and despite looking for many similar condoms I can't find one that feels the way that one did I most recently tried a door Rex skin polyurethane condom and while it feels OK it doesn't have that bareback feeling.
Several years ago there was a direct condom on the market called the Avanti superthin it had a black and purple box and wrap or they were polyurethane not latex if you squirted a little bit of lubricant on the inside of the condom and then put it on I swear to god it felt like you were fucking bareback repeatedly many times I would pull out look down thinking it had broken but it was there I love them you could have safe sex and it felt like bareback sex fast forward many years and quit making that condom and despite looking for many similar condoms I can't find one that feels the way that one did I most recently tried a Durex skin polyurethane condom and while it feels OK it doesn't have that bareback feeling several years ago there was a direct condom on the market called the Avanti superthin it had a black and purple box and wrap or they were polyurethane not latex if you squirted a little bit of lubricant on the inside of the condom and then put it on I swear to god it felt like you were fucking bareback repeatedly many times I would pull out look down thinking it had broken but it was there I love them you could have safe sex and it felt like bareback sex fast forward many years I have quit making that condom and despite looking for many similar condoms I can't find one that feels the way that one did I most recently tried Doryx skin polyurethane condom and while it feels OK it doesn't have that bareback feeling.
Can any of you give me your suggestions or condoms that you use that wall not is good is going bareback or at least as close as were going to get and still do it safely in my experience the polyurethane ones are better as they are thinner also I'm trying to find something I can buy off-the-shelf in the store like many of you I have a significant other I have been fixed and any record of me buying a condom would be a big no-no so it's got to be something I can buy off-the-shelf at a pharmacy or drugstore or adult bookstore and pay cash. Thanks.