Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Samadams17;7192919]My second meet. I took a girl to a comedy show with no expectations. Passionate make out for like 40 minutes. Then she told me she was broke but didn't want anything, just wanted to be treated like a lady and screen out fuck boys. Was able to tap that for about a year. Average lay but really cool chick.[/QUOTE]I took a mid twenties girl out to dinner. No talk of a donation. Met on SDM. She said the nicest restaurant she's ever been to was Applebee's. Took her to buy a nice cocktail dress, then a high end steakhouse with live jazz. She came back to my place and fucked for 2 hours.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddyPDX;7192411]There are tons of girls on the sugar sites that are also providers. We call them non-pros, here, but that's a really loose term. The biggest difference is girls will much more likely meet for coffee or a drink without being expected to be paid. Many of them are legitimately testing the waters of how it all works.

Because of that, you'll need to be a lot more patient. If you launch right into a pay per meet offer on the first text, you'll likely scare her off. The whole point, at least for me, on sugar sites is looking for that unicorn. Expect the whole process though, to be more expensive, more time Consuming, and more frustrating. But in the end, it's the hunt that motivates us.[/QUOTE]The SD sites can be great if you are respectful and offer some genuine caring.

I've had a very normal $800/ month relationship where we met a few times a month. It was mostly grabbing some food and a lot of sex.

I had one woman reach out to me not wanting any payment. She just wanted to be treated like an object. Total fetish and I fit her fantasy. It only lasted a few months, but we both had fun and stayed friends.

I had another arrangement where I just bought her groceries, dinners, and occasional other shopping. No idea how much I spent, but it wasn't crazy. Heck, I've spent more on my ex-wife and past traditional girlfriends on a weekly basis. We hung out almost every day until she moved away during Covid.

Finally, I still have one woman who I never gave a dime to who likes me too much. She would very much like me to become her forever daddy. Great person, and our sex is hot. But there is something missing for me. I had to downgrade it to friendship, but I still get booty call messages that get harder to say "no thanks" to. LOL.

It takes a ton of work though. I NEVER pay for the first meet. Anyone asking to be paid to see if you get along is going to be a nightmare sugar baby anyway. And I've met a number of women to what they wanted wasn't quite what I was into. Or they had crazy high asks. I'm sure there are a few rich guys around PDX who can drop a couple grand a month. Not for me in this economy.

Just keep in mind that the dating scene in the US is apparently crap. I'm not a woman dating, but they complain constantly about shallow boys looking for a hookup. Even if you are looking for a hookup, just be mature and don't be desperate. Listen to them and their drama for a bit. Before you know it, if there is a connection they will climb into your sheets with you. Some of these sugar babies want to feel special and a little can go a long way.

Of course, if you have a lot of disposable income, the options expand quickly. There were a couple crazy hot model-esque women that I passed on because their ask was too high. And, well, they were honestly normally out of my league. If I had 20 k laying around I'd grab one up for a year of weekly fantasy time for a year-ish.

[QUOTE=QuickFoot;7193773]
...Just keep in mind that the dating scene in the US is apparently crap. I'm not a woman dating, but they complain constantly about shallow boys looking for a hookup. Even if you are looking for a hookup, just be mature and don't be desperate. Listen to them and their drama for a bit. Before you know it, if there is a connection they will climb into your sheets with you. Some of these sugar babies want to feel special and a little can go a long way.
.[/QUOTE]THIS. I had a meet with a very nice gal in Salem recently, she just wanted me to buy dinner and be a decently masculine guy. When I asked her what was wrong with guys her age (she's 33) - she said they ask to split the check because they're broke, LOL.

Just curious, I met a lady named Cassie off of SA. About a year ago up here in portland. Saw her a few times and she was a ton of fun but moved to Salem. I lost touch with her and was wondering if anyone down Salem way has met her. Late twenties very slim.

[QUOTE=BarqBiter;6228984]Deedee.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9d5b336e-ac43-4847-bde9-ecc7daee75a5[/URL]

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/nDEo2v9r57Lvx1K06jWqempk[/URL]

I picked up Deedee a while back. She asked about allowance but was okay with ppm. Brief meeting in public then back to her place to fuck. Very limited menu, wouldn't even do CBJ, but my god was her pussy tight and she was very responsive.[/QUOTE]Deedee aka Demi is back in service:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2fc6c921-7cb2-4604-8f1b-b3dcc3b8cb39[/URL]

Has anyone seen Lyssa? She quoted me $500 a few months back and wondering if it's worth trying to negotiate.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ac37cb1-260f-4c90-a1ff-1119331fbb2e[/URL]

[QUOTE=Beaver01;7209796]Has anyone seen Lyssa? She quoted me $500 a few months back and wondering if it's worth trying to negotiate.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ac37cb1-260f-4c90-a1ff-1119331fbb2e[/URL][/QUOTE]She looks really freaking good!

[QUOTE=Beaver01;7209796]Has anyone seen Lyssa? She quoted me $500 a few months back and wondering if it's worth trying to negotiate.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ac37cb1-260f-4c90-a1ff-1119331fbb2e[/URL][/QUOTE]I tried negotiating with her and she blocked me.

[QUOTE=Guam671;7211611]I tried negotiating with her and she blocked me.[/QUOTE]I was able to negotiate with her when we met up but ended up deciding against it. We chatted about what we're into and she doesn't allow anything. Doesn't like kissing, wants covered for everything even with recent checks, and just seemed kind of robotic. Very cute though!

I had an unfortunate incident recently that could have been avoided with one simple step: some verification.

Was chatting someone up, and she sent pics. She looked great. We agreed on terms, and I picked her up.

Within about 15 minutes of picking her up, it became clear that the pictures she sent were dated. They were recent, but she's fallen on VERY hard times. I noticed half her teeth were missing, her complexion was terrible, and she was nodding off in the car.

When I politely tried to end the date early, she became really upset. It was a deeply uncomfortable situation. Maneuvering my way out of that jam was tough.

I've never had this sort of thing happen before in all my years of meeting women on these sites. Sure, some are a bit heavier or older than their pics, but this was a big bait-and-switch.

Moving forward, I'll be requesting some verification. A video chat, a pic with a specific gesture, and / or something in the outfit she claims to have on when I ask what she's wearing. After picking up a meth addict instead of a hit little blonde, I'm choosing verification on my terms, moving forward.

I suggest you do the same.

Happy hunting, boys.

This girl asked for $4 k / month, meeting 1- 2 x / month. Absolutely mental: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5f750eed-bae4-4a0c-ba7e-6af661ff2b4d[/URL].

[QUOTE=Mizunate;7161807]Kaly ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c1ac34a-01ae-49eb-8172-7f0ce6a7eaac[/URL]) -- nice girl, but wants $500 ppm or $2 k / month.[/QUOTE]

Lilac ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4a3eee3f-4142-4fde-b17f-24b519cf177c[/URL]) -- only looking to drive visits to the club.

Lee ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/488e216a-69bf-43f3-9a2c-54f6c7fd25bf[/URL]) -- asking 700 ppm.

Gianna ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c25a8e8-448d-4f89-86e8-258e6b93469d[/URL]) -- asking 600 ppm.

Ariana ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/696554c1-5628-4bb5-ab1d-6c0a3dea9805[/URL]) -- GPS so bad she can't even bring herself to say what she wants.

Lyssa ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ac37cb1-260f-4c90-a1ff-1119331fbb2e[/URL]) -- 400 ppm and EVERYTHING covered.

And a warning: MsSassyPants (I've blocked her) is back and will give you something you can't ever get rid of. You've been warned.

[QUOTE=Mizunate;7214235]This girl asked for $4 k / month, meeting 1- 2 x / month. Absolutely mental: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5f750eed-bae4-4a0c-ba7e-6af661ff2b4d[/URL].[/QUOTE]

Sara ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1951119d-05df-46da-b212-1b9602243290[/URL]) -- asking 600 ppm, and in person, she looks older than her pics.

[QUOTE=Mizunate;7221377]Lilac ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4a3eee3f-4142-4fde-b17f-24b519cf177c[/URL]) -- only looking to drive visits to the club.

Lee ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/488e216a-69bf-43f3-9a2c-54f6c7fd25bf[/URL]) -- asking 700 ppm.

Gianna ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c25a8e8-448d-4f89-86e8-258e6b93469d[/URL]) -- asking 600 ppm.

Ariana ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/696554c1-5628-4bb5-ab1d-6c0a3dea9805[/URL]) -- GPS so bad she can't even bring herself to say what she wants.

Lyssa ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ac37cb1-260f-4c90-a1ff-1119331fbb2e[/URL]) -- 400 ppm and EVERYTHING covered.

And a warning: MsSassyPants (I've blocked her) is back and will give you something you can't ever get rid of. You've been warned.[/QUOTE]

Sarah ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11e702cc-4f4e-43c7-b323-fd17e662e0b9[/URL]) -- so, hey, look, to each their own. If you think Sarah is pretty, or cute, or sexy, congrats. BUT.

She's also out of her mind. She's asking for 600-1,000 per visit AND wants to be compensated to have a non-sexual date, meaning it's 600 for a lunch date and 1,000 if it gets intimate.

(pause for laughter).

Sarah hit me up because she liked what I had to say in my profile, and I figured why not see where it goes. She's not my type, or what I'd consider pretty, but I thought if she were some sort of kinky, maybe I'd see what was up.

Nope. An across the board failure with her. She's a nice enough woman, but pretty vanilla (personality and otherwise) and has insane GPS, especially considering her "competition" on the boards.

[QUOTE=Mizunate;7221823]Sara ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1951119d-05df-46da-b212-1b9602243290[/URL]) -- asking 600 ppm, and in person, she looks older than her pics.[/QUOTE]

Not surprised, they read reddit and get fanciful delusions.

[QUOTE=Mizunate;7226306]Sarah ([URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11e702cc-4f4e-43c7-b323-fd17e662e0b9[/URL]) -- so, hey, look, to each their own. If you think Sarah is pretty, or cute, or sexy, congrats. BUT.

She's also out of her mind. She's asking for 600-1,000 per visit AND wants to be compensated to have a non-sexual date, meaning it's 600 for a lunch date and 1,000 if it gets intimate.

(pause for laughter).

Sarah hit me up because she liked what I had to say in my profile, and I figured why not see where it goes. She's not my type, or what I'd consider pretty, but I thought if she were some sort of kinky, maybe I'd see what was up.

Nope. An across the board failure with her. She's a nice enough woman, but pretty vanilla (personality and otherwise) and has insane GPS, especially considering her "competition" on the boards.[/QUOTE]