Damn right this AGENCY says "Rates subject to change"
[QUOTE=Capesun]Hilarious. Does she think this is a legal disclaimer that will appease mongers after she upsells?
backpage ad [url]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/_urban_godess_20/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1332124[/url][/QUOTE]For all you ignorant low dollar men that think it's so funny that rates are subject to change here is my response.
It has nothing to do with the girl trying to upsell and it sure has nothing to do with trying to get out of a false advertising lawsuit. I don't need to false advertise to draw in business. None of you seem to have a problem paying the ever rising gas prices or you have no problem with typical inflation why is it such a crime for an agency to raise their prices to match inflation?
The difference between my girls and most of the independents are this...
You ask any of my girls what they think they are worth and their response would be you can't put a $$ amount on it. Why?? Because they have CLASS and value themselves. They don't spread their legs to make a buck, but you continuesly see every day the independent girls lowering their prices and doing anything to make the $. Lets get it right you go to independents you get HO'S, DRUG USERS and DISEASE...You use an agency and you get Class, INtelligence and girls that VALUE their self worth.
It's NO wonder why your on this website bashing people...You couldn't afford what we offered, tried to negotiate and I quiet simply told you to take yourself to MLK. The ones that can afford our rates and the hobby enjoy themselves with their provider and call again. Funniest thing is I have NO bad reviews anywhere else but this low budget site. That in itself says something it very well must have something to do with the low dollar men that frequent it.
This site is filled with IGNORANCE
[QUOTE=Hard Working 19]So they are giving it away for free? [/QUOTE]Are you serious? What would even posses you to ask a question like that? First of all you are not paying for sex or sexual acts. You are paying for time and companionship. My girls get paid for just that and don't have to give spread their legs to make money. How is that giving anything away for free? Not one of them has any trouble getting the set fee anywhere between $200. $275 and the clients that spend that money don't expect sexual favors. Maybe you should look up the definition of an escort and read it then you will realise that what you are looking for is a prostitute or street walker. BIG DIFFERENCE my agency does not promote either.
Gianna --- Not Bad At All
I don't know where you have gotten your information about this girl, but you have got it all wrong. I have seen her many times and she is a very nice woman and has never been in trouble before, obviously you seen that when you pulled up her rap sheet so you had nothing more to say, you had to insult her and the way she looked. Well if you were arrested, brutalized and thrown in a holding cell for 13 hours and left there crying the entire time then taken out for a picture, well wounder what you would look like. You know if you had ever seen this woman you would know she has only been doing this for a couple of months, married to the same man for over 20 years, out of work, both her and her husband and just trying to save what they have. But no you have to judge and criticize by a mug shot. Shame on you! This womam is a very sweet, intimate, beautiful person and always a pleasure to be with in many ways oh but again you wouldn't know that would you? I have spoke with her sence this has happened and she has never had an answering service pick up her calls, she's independent and hasn't worked sence this, and it's guys like you that may put her out of business. It's not like she wasn't already humiliated enough now she has to read stupid and insulting things from people like you that couldn't be more incorrect. Again SHAME ON YOU!
Thanks For The Excitement!
[QUOTE=Pandorasboxfl]Are you serious? What would even posses you to ask a question like that? First of all you are not paying for sex or sexual acts. You are paying for time and companionship. My girls get paid for just that and don't have to give spread their legs to make money. How is that giving anything away for free? Not one of them has any trouble getting the set fee anywhere between $200. $275 and the clients that spend that money don't expect sexual favors. Maybe you should look up the definition of an escort and read it then you will realise that what you are looking for is a prostitute or street walker. BIG DIFFERENCE my agency does not promote either.[/QUOTE]This has been the biggest posting day in recent memory. I enjoy the banter and you are RIGHT! Lots of ignorance here, but most of it came from you.
You sound more like a pimp. No successful businessman would slam potential clients the way you do. You really do not know any of us. There are many lurkers on here. Many of us pay good $$ for companionship. My experience says that except in unusal cases more $$ does not translate into better companionship. I have hobbied far and wide for a long time and I have found that on average, services do not provide great service. The girls are overworked and unenthusiastic. But, YMMV.
Lastly, my policy is to not negotiate because I feel it sets a poor tone for the encounter. If the experience does not meet my requirements I just move on.
Yours is one service I will not have to move on from. A business rots from the head down. That is just my opinion.
pandorasboxfl.....agency vs. independent
You really should not insult the girls that are independent, Myself for one. I like the freedom to set My own schedule, choose whom I wish to see and not give anyone a cut from a session. I have no problem posting My own ads and pay the top dollar for an ad on Eros, which is the classiest site I have found thus far.
You said "The independent girls are independent for one reason and one reason only they can't work for anyone else for one reason or the other. ". This is so not true. You also said "Lets get it right you go to independents you get HO'S, DRUG USERS and DISEASE. ". Again, this is not true. I am tested regularly, offer a safe and very clean location and do not entertain people regularly as I am also the owner of 2 businesses. I do not rely on this income to support Myself and I consider Myself a hobbiest of sorts.
You seem to bash not just the hobbiests in this forum, but the independents as well. I agree with NobodyYouKnow that word-of-mouth advertising is golden and all you seem to be doing here is driving away business.
Perhaps you should think before you speak?
Miss T and any of the others
[QUOTE=Miss T]You really should not insult the girls that are independent, Myself for one. I like the freedom to set My own schedule, choose whom I wish to see and not give anyone a cut from a session. I have no problem posting My own ads and pay the top dollar for an ad on Eros, which is the classiest site I have found thus far.
You said "The independent girls are independent for one reason and one reason only they can't work for anyone else for one reason or the other. ". This is so not true. You also said "Lets get it right you go to independents you get HO'S, DRUG USERS and DISEASE. ". Again, this is not true. I am tested regularly, offer a safe and very clean location and do not entertain people regularly as I am also the owner of 2 businesses. I do not rely on this income to support Myself and I consider Myself a hobbiest of sorts.
You seem to bash not just the hobbiests in this forum, but the independents as well. I agree with NobodyYouKnow that word-of-mouth advertising is golden and all you seem to be doing here is driving away business.
Perhaps you should think before you speak?[/QUOTE]I am sorry if I offended any of you in my attempt at defending my business name. It doesn't seem that any of us agency or independent are safe on this site from the frequent scrutiny.
It does not matter what any one of us do we are not going to please 100% of the men. It's just not possible. There is always going to be the one person that feels they have been wronged by us and then it turns into something like this. I guess it's just the nature of the beast of this business. Thank god for regulars and their friends and their friends friends. Word of mouth is Golden and I have plenty of HAPPY clients and their friends that keep coming back and can see through all the other bullshit.
Not True, Re-Read your own posts
Um, you pretty much blasted RayRay for giving us a heads up on pricing in the market. He had no beef with you. He never even mentioned you. I would definitely say, you sought him out.
And don't you keep saying that people have a right to their opinion? Why can't he have one? Why can't everyone on this board have one?
Let me be extremely clear here. You could have posted a rebuttal, or even evidence that its not true. You know, things like reviews, people that can vouch for you. That would have been nice. Instead, you took a pious tone and you're mean-spirited. And actually, has anyone defended you? Where are all these clients?
And we get the semantics of your business, but no its not legitimate. Have you noticed that every other provider that was busted uses the same semantics? Quit the bullshit, please, quit the bullshit.
Or let me head you off at the pass. I know, I know. Your girls haven't been busted. Cause they don't do anything illegal, right? Ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Pandorasboxfl]Once more we are all entitled to our opinions and should all have a voice. I am a disgrace because I choose to come on here and defend my name and my agency name? You will never see any of my providers again because of my actions? My actions were in response to others actions. As I was taught long ago 2 wrongs do not make a right, but in the same sense I have the same right as anyone else to defend.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you should read back
[QUOTE=Mrj Mrj]Um, you pretty much blasted RayRay for giving us a heads up on pricing in the market. He had no beef with you. He never even mentioned you. I would definitely say, you sought him out.
And don't you keep saying that people have a right to their opinion? Why can't he have one? Why can't everyone on this board have one?
Let me be extremely clear here. You could have posted a rebuttal, or even evidence that its not true. You know, things like reviews, people that can vouch for you. That would have been nice. Instead, you took a pious tone and you're mean-spirited. And actually, has anyone defended you? Where are all these clients?
And we get the semantics of your business, but no its not legitimate. Have you noticed that every other provider that was busted uses the same semantics? Quit the bullshit, please, quit the bullshit.
Or let me head you off at the pass. I know, I know. Your girls haven't been busted. Cause they don't do anything illegal, right? Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Read back through the posts I did not seek RayRay out he repeatedly bashed my agency and my girls. Once again someone on here that chooses to speak before they have the truth. I am done with all of this please continue with your bashing it's just bringing me more business. LOL
Which # and which girls would you be referring to?
[QUOTE=Rayray87]Oh geez what the fuck? Is this the jerry springer show or a review site?
According to arrest report from news press she told the undercover officer 200 plus she expects a tip. What price subject to change? Lisa anne barker 41 of north ft myers 5ft 6inches weighs 160lbs. Hmmm her add on backpage says she is 36 years old 130lbs weighing. 5ft 6 160lbs? Old pics?
Pandora box you have been exposed and your service is full of lies and you have the right to come on here and give guys crap? When you run a lying corrupt business. Rates subjest to change? What for you offering sexual favors for play? Yeah keep defending yourself and attacking the guys on this board along with the independent women!
[url]http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20080815/news01/80815025[/url]
Do we need to show the pic? Do we need to list all the girls associated with this number and agency now that le is on the prowl and all your girls are hot and being watched?
I was going to just put you on ignore but no you had to insult everyone on here. Well guess what this aint craigslist where you can just flag, this is a site where opinions are given to avoid being robbed, scammed and shitty service along with those who are honest, clean and good. Guess which category you fall under?
Next time to you come on read the rules, if you don't like someones opinion tough shit its their hard earn money being spent.[/QUOTE]This is my agency number 239-878-8031 the same number that it has always been. My website address is pandorasboxgirls.com. I challenge you to find all the girls linked to this number? I then challenge you to tell me these are any of the girls that were arrested or any of the girls you want to say that I employ. And then to take it a step further find any ad that I have lied or been dishonest on. You will not find anything and I am positive of this. So please once again if you want to bash, stab and point fingers point them back at yourself for talking shit that was untrue. Really you should get your facts straight the first time it would have saved all of this. Oh and yes I will accept your apology and note of retraction for what you have said when you can't find any info on my agency regarding your accusations.
If you want to speak about legalities this is considered slander or defamation of character to speak of things that are not true. I could see if you were making a broad statement but you point blank targeted me and my agency.
This is all very hillarious!
You know, this is all very hillarious and more entertaining than jerry springer!
Business must be slow to have the time to keep posting and trying to defend yourself. What I have learned in life is that the one that protests the loudest is usually the guilty party. Everyone is definately entitled to their opinion and you are not going to change that of anyone here so can We give it a rest? Personally, I do not care to do any investigating. I have better things to do with My time. Guys on here are not stupid and really can put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4, as can I. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then guess what?
Smart business people know when to speak and when to be quiet. They also know that professionalism is the way to bring in more business, not belittling or insulting their clientelle or being crass. Perhaps some of your girls are as you say, I do not know, but the reasons I see that guys will not call them (or you) any further are your immature actions on this forum. I would not blame any of them! Bad publicity gets around faster than good publicity. Not many post on this forum, but there definately are a lot of lurkers who can read.
A word of advise My dear. Let it go!
I could say the same thing...
[QUOTE=Miss T]You know, this is all very hillarious and more entertaining than jerry springer!
Business must be slow to have the time to keep posting and trying to defend yourself. What I have learned in life is that the one that protests the loudest is usually the guilty party. Everyone is definately entitled to their opinion and you are not going to change that of anyone here so can We give it a rest? Personally, I do not care to do any investigating. I have better things to do with My time. Guys on here are not stupid and really can put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4, as can I. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then guess what? [/QUOTE]No honey business is not slow it's actually just the opposite. Your right I do have alot of time on my hands due to the fact that it's not hard to answer a phone and use the computer at the same time. I could very easily ask you if business is slow though. It's not as easy to do what you do and use the computer at the same time, but yet you find the time to have your comments and voice heard. How many posts have you made toward myself or what I have had to say? Not to mention how easily you seem forget that you were quick to defend your name when RayRay was sending the insults your way. So really who are you to preach to me when you have not come even close to taking your own advice. This really is pathetic and has gotten entirely out of hand. Rather than worry about me and my agency and what I have to say....Why not worry about yourself and the service you provide to your clients. Maybe then you wouldn't get so many negative reviews of your own.
But who am I to say anything about that right?