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[url]http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/14305950.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Tribal69]News article gives credit to sex guide - check it out
[url]http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/14305950.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Makes me sick. Yes, let's go high-tech to run down these vicious, brutal law breakers. Never mind that it's a victimless "crime" that involves supply and demand between two consenting adults. I guess there aren't any killers, rapists, bank robbers or child molesters to go after in SC, huh?
[QUOTE=Fej Head]On my way home it came to me that if she was in jail recently she might be on the OCSF site and sure enough there she was. Her name is Rachel and she is only 19! [/QUOTE]
If she's out of jail maybe Jennifer is too. Anyone know how to reach her? Feel free to PM me with that info!
Are you calling Whorlando Home now?? PW
[QUOTE=LAXGuy]If she's out of jail maybe Jennifer is too. Anyone know how to reach her? Feel free to PM me with that info![/QUOTE]
Has anyone had the chance to sample this one:
First time I've seen her photo posted. Her name's Holly Workman
PHFJ Out!
Trail Report Wednesday AM
Spent my morning 6am-11am) on the trail and enjoyed a few sights that i had not seen in the past. The Mall area was just about dead, only one fatty WSW near Best Buy.
Did see a number of HSW, BSW, WSW just north of Sandlake up to I-4.
Will post some pics latter tonight.
Tribal
I was surfing another site and I found an add for the BSW I picked up last Thursday. The report is a few posts below. As I reported I give her high marks. Looks like she is here escorting and walked the Trail that night. Enjoy.
[url]http://www.eros-tampa.com/files/az-tqe1-tenelle1.htm[/url]
SB
So my Uncle's nephew tells me he spots hot blonde WSW in white dancer wear outside 7 eleven and Landstreet Wednesday afternoon about 2:30pm. Pulls by her and she does not look his way so he chases her all the way up SOBT pulling into parking lots in front of her as she walks North. She never even acknowledges him or the other mongers chasing her. She does walk over to a white P/U but does not get in. My uncles nephew tells me he gave up around Sand Lake. WTF?
Some sw's are just very picky. Sopmetimes if they are being real picky then I will get out and try to talk with them. It works often. Just walk up to the girl and say hello. She will clue you in if she is working and wants to go.
[QUOTE=Pwhipped]Are you calling Whorlando Home now?? PW[/QUOTE]
Hey, PW! Yeah, I've had to come here for work a lot more, and as things fell apart on the homefront - oh well, it happens - I no longer have to return to Gville on such a regular basis as I once did. On the upside though, I'm learning a lot more about hobbying in other places! I don't have as many "safe places" to go in the big Whorlando as I do up there, but the SW scene is usually kickin'.
Missin' the hill...
This is a real hottie has any one tried her out?
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/154115154.html[/url]
I tried to find her eros ad with no success.
[url]http://www.eros-tampa.com/files/ta-laura41-laura1.htm[/url]
Here's her eros ad. I thought about trying her too, but I need incall, she's outcall. If she looks half as good as her photos, you're in for a fun evening.
[QUOTE=Theguyed]This is a real hottie has any one tried her out?
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/154115154.html[/url]
I tried to find her eros ad with no success.[/QUOTE]Kind of pricey at 300.
Thanks for the advice.
[QUOTE=LAXGuy]Can't help you with the "starting to get feelings for her" part, but have you considered setting up a multi-person deal with her? Find some mongers that you trust and set up a price menu with them. Go to her and set up the deal for all of you and tell her the prices you're willing to pay. (That way she can't play any of you against the other.) With so much business at risk, I can't imagine she would play hard to get, or else she'd lose everyone. I've heard about this deal happening elsewhere, though I haven't been part of one. Sounds like a great scenario though.[/QUOTE]
Bronx Monger coming down for convention tomorrow , and wanted to see if anyone can point me in the right direction !! Want to be safe and have no problems . So if you know any that you don't need a mortage for that will drop by the hotle that would be cool
thanks
Bx Loco
I am a bit new to the mongering scene in Florida (moved here from NV - much easier there) and am looking to get the ropes on how to be sure you are not dealing with LEO's when making initial contact etc.
What are the rules down here? Does contact/grabbing of the crotch make sure she aint LE?
What precautions should a person take if he is going to them (incall)
Thanks for any help and I look forward to posting some reports!!
Hells
Rules of Mongering= free to copy/paste to other cities you play in
I have added few lines and thoughts
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22 Rules for SW Mongering
1. IS SHE? - It ain't like in the movies -They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
*She is walking aimlessly Goes back, forth and circles keep an open eye but becareful if it's too good to be true It does not hurt to check. You might be lucky see next rules
2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!
3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.
4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.
5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.
6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.
7. THE PICKUP - Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you - smile back at her, dummy! - then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past - and then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling - invite her in.
8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS - Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy... On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
* but if the girl is not uncle Leo's daughter and they are using her to bust dr*g dealers p*mps and John along the way just ask where do you wanna go open a conversation, she'll qualify you...
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view - you can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick - she doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
12. AVOIDING SCAMS - If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you), be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot - or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
* do not go exactly where they want you
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
*that applies for incalls
14. If you go back to her place - are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot - since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)
16. If you go back to your house - are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
*>95% of American WSW are addicted, if she's not American she might wanna pay bills
17. WALLET - Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working...
* if she starts giving you french lectures all of a sudden then that's you sign
18. MONEY - Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ, 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more" - the word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really - I mean it!), and they deserve a break.
19. HUNTING HOURS: They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
*along that line you can see HSW foreign providers do not work 24/7
20. CFS!!! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means, "I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.
21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your # - which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.
22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
As always Play Safe
I reposted this from a post of Seymore in Atlantic City which is a very good Guide !!!!
added few lines
About rule 20. Don't volunteer that you have a rubber, bc if they think you do they'll lie and say they don't. If you say you don't and let her know its gonna cost her money, she'll "miraculously" find one in the bottom of her purse sometimes.
The flipside is if you don't trust her to not have rubbers older than some beef jerdky then you should use your own no matter what.
[QUOTE=Orlando J]Rules of Mongering= free to copy/paste to other cities you play in
I have added few lines and thoughts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
22 Rules for SW Mongering
1. IS SHE? - It ain't like in the movies -They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
*She is walking aimlessly Goes back, forth and circles keep an open eye but becareful if it's too good to be true It does not hurt to check. You might be lucky see next rules
2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!
3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.
4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.
5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.
6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.
7. THE PICKUP - Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you - smile back at her, dummy! - then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past - and then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling - invite her in.
8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS - Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy... On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
* but if the girl is not uncle Leo's daughter and they are using her to bust dr*g dealers p*mps and John along the way just ask where do you wanna go open a conversation, she'll qualify you...
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view - you can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick - she doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
12. AVOIDING SCAMS - If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you), be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot - or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
* do not go exactly where they want you
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
*that applies for incalls
14. If you go back to her place - are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot - since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)
16. If you go back to your house - are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
*>95% of American WSW are addicted, if she's not American she might wanna pay bills
17. WALLET - Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working...
* if she starts giving you french lectures all of a sudden then that's you sign
18. MONEY - Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ, 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more" - the word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really - I mean it!), and they deserve a break.
19. HUNTING HOURS: They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
*along that line you can see HSW foreign providers do not work 24/7
20. CFS!!! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means, "I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.
21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your # - which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.
22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
As always Play Safe
I reposted this from a post of Seymore in Atlantic City which is a very good Guide !!!!
added few lines[/QUOTE]
Anyone know of a notel's or hourly place in Sanford, Deland or Debary? Also has anyone seen any action in the Sanford and north areas?
T69
PHFJ,
Not sure but looks so much like her;
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/237901635.html[/url]
[QUOTE=PokeHerFaceJon]Has anyone had the chance to sample this one:
First time I've seen her photo posted. Her name's Holly Workman
PHFJ Out![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hellsbellsfl]I am a bit new to the mongering scene in Florida (moved here from NV - much easier there) and am looking to get the ropes on how to be sure you are not dealing with LEO's when making initial contact etc.
What are the rules down here? Does contact/grabbing of the crotch make sure she aint LE?
What precautions should a person take if he is going to them (incall)
Thanks for any help and I look forward to posting some reports!!
Hells[/QUOTE]Smells like pork in here.
Gotta use my magnum who knows what rubber she has as you said.
[QUOTE=SoFakingDumb]About rule 20. Don't volunteer that you have a rubber, bc if they think you do they'll lie and say they don't. If you say you don't and let her know its gonna cost her money, she'll "miraculously" find one in the bottom of her purse sometimes.
The flipside is if you don't trust her to not have rubbers older than some beef jerdky then you should use your own no matter what.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Orlando J]PHFJ,
Not sure but looks so much like her;
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/237901635.html[/url][/QUOTE]
That's not Holly. She's not the same on'e that's had her portrait on fat ass Berry's site.
PHFJ Out!
Rarely do I have anything worthwhile to contribute. There are a couple of "managers" tailing mongers and then robbing/beating them. They have been known to ride in a newer black BMW, an old beat up El Camino and a maroon Corolla. This warning came from a girl I picked up. I don't know how much truth there is to this, but it wouldn't hurt to be a little more cautious in your adventures.
No porkies here BarkinDawg - I realize though that I only have a few reports so far - so yall dont know me yet.
[QUOTE=Tribal69]Anyone know of a notel's or hourly place in Sanford, Deland or Debary? Also has anyone seen any action in the Sanford and north areas?
T69[/QUOTE]
Check the Sanford, Deland Debary listing under Orlando (further down the page). There is action to be had, some of it very worthwhile, some skags.
[QUOTE=BarkinDawg]Smells like pork in here.[/QUOTE]Haha.
" Can someone please e-mail me a Prostitution Protocol's manual on PDF ? Not to get greedy, but a Powerpoint presentation would be much more appreciated! Send your pic along with it so I can thank you in person if we ever bump into each other whilst Mongering! "
Ahh..this shit is crazy.
I found this piece of valuablle advice and thought of sharing with Orlando fellows
Let's say I pull over and invite someone into my car. We drive away and an officer pulls my vehicle over. I haven't commited a crime
The officer might have just cause to pull me over. What he witnessed was a female who he knows to be a prostitute enter a males vehicle in an area that is "infested" with drug dealers and prostitutes. What he witnessed was "Suspected"; he has "Just Cause" to investigate.
So he turns on the Christmas tree lights and you pull over...
LESSON 1: DON'T ADMIT TO ANYTHING - EVER!
The officer probably will leave you in your vehicle and ask your young friend to step to the back. Depending on the SWer and your relationship with her she's going to do one of two things. LIE is one of them. She DOESN'T want to go to jail. And if she get arrested she would appreciate it if the officer charges her with the minimal statute. She likely to cooperate with the officer. So if the two of you talked pay-for-play she'll "implicate" you.
Hopefully you just said hello and didn't get into any $$$ yet. As far as you're concerned you haven't done anything illegal. The officer isn't stupid. He knows you haven't broken the law - and, he knows exactly why you picked up your new female "friend." HE will start a little speach about prostitutes, drug dealers, STDs, yada yada yada, and inform you that your new friend has been arrested numerous times for prostitution and possession. Don't answer anything but, "I haven't done anything wrong. I just offered her a ride. She looked like she needed a lift." REMEMBER - THE OFFICER IS CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION.
So let's say you just picked her up; she hops in, does a Jimmy check and the two off you start talking half-and-half, ben - jackson and abe...and then the cop take you down. I'd be real worried about then 'cause she's not going to attempt to lie her way out of it to save your ass. You're both probably going for a ride. If she's lucky with minimum charges if she's not holding any dope. If you're lucky it will be your 1st offense - it still will hurt your wallet.
Don't talk business until you know your in the clear or just like me I do not talk business at all I just offer help and let her do the talking. I felt I am being setup one time with an escort she kept on asking me explicit questions on the phone maybe 'cause I have seen her before maybe they were using her. I do not know and certainly would like to know. I was not sure who I am talking to over the phone.
LESSON 2: THE COP ISN'T YOUR FRIEND
Don't give him (or her) too much information. If your friend hasn't already admitted to "solicitation" or your "offer to" then all the officers can hope for is for you to ADMIT YOUR GUILT.
If your friend has already "implicated" you, the officers are probably trying to get you to implicate yourself. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! DON'T ADMIT ANYTHING! EVER!!!
Even though she's a known prostiute her accusation alone might get you arrested - it might not get you charged. You might be released without charges at your arraignment. If both of you admit your involvement your both in trouble and will probably be charged.
LESSON 3: DON'T ACCEPT PLEA DEALS
(Unless your counsel advises you to) Worst case scenario...you get arrested, prior to your arraignment an ADA (Assistant Disctrict Attourney) might offer you a plea deal. He might say something like, "The arrest report indicates you admitted offering money for sex...If you accept this plea and sign here you can go home in about two hours." If you accept what the ADA just did was clear hours of work from the schedule and increased their conviction stats.
What the ADA doesn't tell you is that there is avery good chance the magistrate at the hearing will accept your plea of not guilty and release you. The only witness against you is a prostitute. She probably doesn't have a permanent address and chances are she won't be in custody when you trail is scheduled, so the likelyhood that she will be around to testify against you is practically nil.
If you are making a movie then sex for money isn't prostitution. If it is part of dancing on stage then sex for money isn't prostitution. If it's in the context of a relationship then sex for money isn't prostitution. If it's in the context of therapy then sex for money isn't prostitution. If it's in the context of getting a job then sex for money isn't prostitution. If it's in the context of friendship then sex for money isn't prostitution. If they are living together then sex for money isn't prostitution.
It seems that the common element that makes sex for money not prostitution is that if it's not only sex for money. In all these cases there is a third element involved. It's always sex for money and something else. The one example of prostitution was when there was only sex for money and nothing else. Thus, although the statute defines prostitution as sexual contact in exchange for something of value, it seems like in practice that the real rule is an exchange of something of value for only sex and nothing else. Because if you are buying sex and friendship or sex in the context of a relationship or therapy, or making a movie, then the third element makes the event not an act of prostitution, even with the element of sex for money.
Thus the language of the statute is incomplete because it doesn't say what it really means. Prostitution is more accurately defined as:
"Prostitution", a person commits prostitution if he, in return for something of value to be received by the person or by a third person, engages or offers or agrees to engage in only sexual conduct with another person.
US laws are different than EU or Canada. Playing safe requires knowledge of these laws. Definitely under current laws prostitution is illegal, it's only legal with restrictions in Neva LasVegas.
Here is how it might go:
You: Hi, I've not used your service before and I'd like some information
Girl(s): Sure what would you like to know? (after all, they don't know you yet!)
You: Just general information...what do you charge?? (there's nothing wrong to ask charges after all they are a business)
Girl(s): (watch the wording here) lingerie modeling, dancing, massage, full body massage etc. some might say such $$ and such $$ for full services (I think that's the best for both of us so you would be prepaired and she knows what to expect $$ after all they are offering service(s)
You: you can ask 1 full hr or up to an hour (once you cum she leaves)
Also watch if they say agency fee or all inclusive..or girls accept tips for extra..girls work on tips.
You: Can you tell me more about yourself how do you look like?
Other fair questions
(for an agency) who is available tonight? or I'm looking for;
tall/short/petite/large/slim
blonde/brunette/redhead
asian/hispanic/white
young/old
you can also say something like hot passionate(normally for loud girls)
How soon can you be here? Where are you? not exactly but rather where about?
DO NOT ask;
Will I get laid? Does she do greek? Can I cum twice? No sexual acts or activities!! Where exactly are you?
The girl/agency do not know you as you do not know them
_______________________________________________________
When meeting the girl
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She will want to sit and talk to you for few minutes to determine if you're not crazy, sick, violent, a cop, ..etc she might qualify you by asking are you LE? the answer is NO any other answer would scare her do not be smart and say Do I look like a cop? if she's going to stay she may ask to "check in" (either with a driver, agency, friend..) Anytime before this point she may back out of the deal and leave. She is also likely to ask for payment up front before calling to check in.
If she is respectable and knows what she's doing she will check it then place it somewhere where she can see it. Of course as I said before if the girl(s) said a full services then it's clear you do not need to get yourself into the trouble of discussing exactly details
This is a perfect way for both of you She already told you what does she expect so you can have it ready. Then you already know this is all.
Always keep extras with you. You tip for a good service and repeat.
[quote]Definitely under current laws prostitution is illegal, it's only legal with restrictions in Neva LasVegas.[/quote]
Actually it is NOT legal in Las Vegas. Lots of tourists head to "Sin City" thinking that it is, and the scads of escort services operating in the open might serve to convince. But in fact Clark County (which includes Las Vegas) is the only county in Nevada which could not have legal prostitution.
Under Nevada law, any county with a population of fewer than 400,000 is allowed to license brothels if it so chooses (NRS 244.345). As of January 2005, Clark County is the only county in Nevada with a population of over 400,000.
The town of Pahrump, 60 miles outside of Las Vegas, is the location of the closest legal house of prostitution for visitors to the neon nightlife.
[QUOTE=Orlando J]
Definitely under current laws prostitution is illegal, it's only legal with restrictions in Neva LasVegas. [/QUOTE]
That quote is in·accurate with regards to Las Vegas , as KC·Q just wrote below
It's also wrong about Prostitution [i]ONLY[/i] being Legal in Nevada
Here in my home state of Rhode Island , In·door Prostitution is totally Legal
Soliciting is il·legal , though , which is why so many guys here get the girls' digits and arrange
perfectly legal private indoor 'dates' with them
When LE busts AMPs here , the only thing they can charge is operating a massage facility with
the masseuses not being properly licensed ; and immigration violations
The legality of in·door prostitution has also turned our strip clubs into barely disguised Brothels
WHA?! God I think im going to have to take a road trip to rhoad island!
[QUOTE=PsyberZombie]That quote is in·accurate with regards to Las Vegas , as KC·Q just wrote below
It's also wrong about Prostitution [i]ONLY[/i] being Legal in Nevada
Here in my home state of Rhode Island , In·door Prostitution is totally Legal
Soliciting is il·legal , though , which is why so many guys here get the girls' digits and arrange
perfectly legal private indoor 'dates' with them
When LE busts AMPs here , the only thing they can charge is operating a massage facility with
the masseuses not being properly licensed ; and immigration violations
The legality of in·door prostitution has also turned our strip clubs into barely disguised Brothels[/QUOTE]Hey,
I'm 21 and I don't know these laws about what goes on. Is indoor prostitution legal in Miami. It's not a dumb question. I need to know.
Great discussion! I did not know those details thanks that's really helpful for all of us.
For those contemplating to travel or those close to Canada here is a piece of info this is to the best of my knowledge please correct me if I am wrong
Canadian Prostitution Favorable Legal Situation
Similar to Europe, Australia and most of the World
Very Different Than In the U.S.
In Canada, honest, full service, safe sex escorting (sexwork) is the accepted norm. Since Canada doesn't have the legal repressive issues as in the U.S. ads are usually honest, prices quoted are real - not the U.S. rip offs and scams. In general prices are far lower than in the U.S. since they don't have to include the large legal risk premium. Also there are more providers, choosing sexwork for the right reasons, since there is not the legal risk.
Everyone should have access to reasonable priced sexual relief of that normal sexual tension or sexual variety that is natural, from professional, caring, honest providers.
In most every country except the U.S. such services are legally available and not any big deal. U.S. laws are controlled by a religious agenda that has no biblical basis, only false traditions of sexual repression that have been incorporated into laws to deny healthy sexual service options. Those that oppose sexwork the most often are the ones participating in it but their guilt makes them lash out against it. They seek to deny everyone the healthy sexual services they are not suppose to enjoy based on their perverted traditions, that are lies with no legitimate basis.
Yes, even in the U.S. there are many great honest providers. But it is sometimes hard to find them among all the scams. Organized crime is also an issue in the U.S., while in Canada, most all of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, most of Asia, Latin America there simply is no "crime" to "organize"!
Canadian Prostitution Law
Prostitution is legal in all of Canada it has been part of the Federal Criminal Code since at least mid 1800s. It is similar to British law and laws in much of Europe. Local communities can establish brothels and have some other limited powers such as licensing and zoning but can not outlaw prostitution which flourishes throughout Canada. Many Canadian cities have required escort licensing. But all it does is raise money at the sexworkers expense, since there is no real advantage of being licensed other than to comply with a city revenue raising requirement since prostitution is legal anyway.
A Canadian official site
[url]http://www.justice.gc.ca/en/news/nr/1998/toc.html[/url]
Before someone says my info is not accurate about Canadian Laws. There are some restrictions;
Overview
Under the Canadian Criminal Code:
(1) The act of prostitution is legal, i.e. you CANNOT be arrested for being a prostitute
(2) The practice of independent outcall prostitution is fully protected by Federal law. Third party involvement in solicitation of business or profiting from it is a crime But enforcement varies widely since the attitude is to support individual rights as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.
(3) Advertising in public print is protected as a right of free speech which has been upheld by the Canadian Supreme Court. Advertising on television has not yet been tested but the issue is whether its in line with community standards.
(4) An independent outcall escort has the right to discuss specific acts of sex for money in private. Hotel rooms, telephones and private homes. The Canadian Supreme court has ruled that a land based telephone is a private communication. When one places a phone call, they have a reasonable expectation of privacy, and that is the test. The same is easily extended to cellular phone communication. One would have to have special equipment to intercept such communication.
When you consider the "public communication" aspect of the law it is really crafted to discourage street solicitation. The more aggressive uses of the law have seen it applied to hotel bars, your vehicle operating on a public street and other such places. Communication btw also includes acts in furtherance as evidence of intent...i.e. you pick a street walker up in your car is an act of furtherance.
Details
While prostitution itself is legal how it is practiced is restricted and enforcement differs greatly in different cities. The Criminal Code of Canada restricts:
1. Communicating /Solicitation-* to avoid street prostitution by preventing soliciting or having sex in public.
In 1978, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that soliciting had to be "pressing and persistent" to warrant conviction. In 1985, this was replaced by the communicating law, which continues to outlaw any kind of communication for the purposes of prostitution, making it an easier offence to prosecute. A car was ruled to be a public place if it is parked in any place open to public view. This law forces prostitutes to move into more secluded, poorly lit areas to do their work.
The communicating offence was designed to deal with the nuisance caused by street solicitation. In 1990, the SCC held that while the communicating section is an infringement on the freedom of expression, it is justifiable infringement because of the importance of eliminating street solicitation and the associated social nuisances.
"Public place" is defined as "any place to which the public have access as of right or by invitation..... and any motor vehicle located in a place.... open to public view". Cyberspace is not a "place" any more than a radio or tv is.
Car sex is illegal unless in a very secluded location as one case pointed out. A telephone is private so you can discuss it freely. It is also perfectly legal for a prostitute to advertise in magazines, newspapers and websites, as they are not considered public (you choose to buy it, read it in privately and read what you privately decide to read). For example in Vancouver, there are many ads are in the Westender, Vancouver Sun and Vancouver Providence for providers. In Montreal the Mirror has many explicit ads as do other French publications. Many Canadian providers have websites and there are good discussion/review lists such as canbest.com. All all perfectly legal and without the concern of being a roadmap for vice cops to find legitimate providers, like in the U.S.
Hobbyist:
In addition to my other postings (i.e. do’s and do not’s)
- Have exact amount of cash. After all, she isn't a bank teller. If you expect her to have the proper change, chances are you'll be disappointed and end up letting her keep the change.
-Always have your own supply of condoms. It's ok to have more than one.
-Prepare as you prepare for a date, be showered and dressed.
-Take away valuables from sight.
-Be sober.
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I am not sure if providers read this or not but I think some leads (managers, ..) read them.
Providers:
- Make good impressions be funny, sexy, nice, down to earth. Etc. When we call you it's not only because we want to know more info. We are trying to get a taste of who you are. Example; I called a very gorgeous girl the other day and she said "all what you need to know is in my ad" then hang up. Though she is extremely gorgeous I did not call her back. If she has an attitude over the phone how would she be when I see her?
- Give an idea of your menu without upselling. You might think guys are going to negotiate so you start asking big $$$ believe me that's not right! It is risky because you might get into discussing details. Offer street rates believe me we do shopping and there's a lot of fish in the sea. Also as you see guys talk to each other. Do not think that he will call your other number so you can give him a better deal.
example: Sensual massage, lap dance...etc $$ for 1/2 hr $$ for F/S $$ 1hr
- Have in your menu full services if not then I think you need to find a different job ...
- Be clear and use common sense
- Learn things like 1full hour or up to an hour and do not mislead guys saying it's such $$ for an 1hr then when he cums after few minutes it's over!! this should be clear in your menu when you quote .5hr and there's a 1hr rate that means this is 1 solid hour customers can have more than 1 cup
- Do not play games
examples;
*if the customer scheduled .5hr and told you there's a chance he'd use 1hr do not be silly saying oh that's another .5hr rate
*.5hr rate is not for full service!!
*No shopping malls if you want this then pay this $$!! Complete turn-off
-So far I am talking about straight fun no fetishes
-Common sense
*have a shower, clean well, wax, shave, little make up prepare for a date
- want to reduce your problems with leo
*use cl with your street rates you won't need to walk the street and instead things would be safer for us all
*do not steal customers
*do not steal other providers
*do not out smart others or play games
*do not steal your manager, lead...
What goes around comes around.
-No drama
Comming to Orlando in Febuary. Will be staying in WinterPark? Usual plan is to go to Tampa, but things aren't looking to good their? We'll be on Lee road for our stay. Near a La Quinta Inn. Is there anything fun to be had around this area? Thanks for any help.
I do not know about you but there is something wrong when;
The ad says something different than reality or what they say on the phone
I reported, warned, a similar incident before and I learned recently that they were busted at that time and LE used their phones.
You try the phone different times it's ringing and nobody answers, then it goes directly to voice mail. Do not leave a message Most probably she's visiting the big house
-she is explicit or trying to sell you something illegal and accepting incalls only
-and of course too too good to be true
Hey Bleach
For SW shopping Try my old post;
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3918&page=3&pp=15[/url]
[QUOTE=bleach]Comming to Orlando in Febuary. Will be staying in WinterPark? Usual plan is to go to Tampa, but things aren't looking to good their? We'll be on Lee road for our stay. Near a La Quinta Inn. Is there anything fun to be had around this area? Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]
TAYLOR 20 yrs old 36D-24-36 One Call That's All It Takes Your Wish Is My Command 321-805-0362
Please note that this girl is hotel roommates with another girl named Sky. They share a small room on I drive at the I-Drive Inn.
Taylor, as well as Sky, are not slim, rather are fat heffers. She tries to cover her stretch marks with a tank top that she pulls down around to cover her mammoth belly. Taylor lure you in by telling you she has a $100 half hour special. When you get there you find only a mechanical, covered BBJ and she says "No FS for only $100!" Like, Who do you think you are, wanting FS for only $100!" Its the "power of Pussy."
When I came over, Taylor was trying to work me, while Sky was in the shower, cleaning herself from her previous sucker. Sky asked me directly, "How much money do you have, cause you could get 2 girls!"
You should know up front that you are paying your money for only a vacuum cleaning type job, and you probably could have more fun at home playing with the vacuum cleaner! Then take yourself out for a nice steak dinner with the money you saved!