News and Media Reports

[QUOTE=JoesParty; 1296970]Continuing the updates: there is a better written, much more detailed story on thus in today's Detroit News. It specifically names the two sites and the men involved. I'm not posting a link, but it is easy to find.

It remains to be seen how serious the trouble will be for these guys, but the sites are closed for good. Might be a good time to take a vacation to somewhere cooler, IMO.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Here is the link ht [url]tp://www.detroitnews.com/article/20111014/METRO/110140407/1409/Feds-say-prostitution-ring-used-websites--sex-parties-to-hook-up-clients[/url]

[QUOTE=JoesParty; 1296970]Continuing the updates: there is a better written, much more detailed story on thus in today's Detroit News. It specifically names the two sites and the men involved. I'm not posting a link, but it is easy to find.

It remains to be seen how serious the trouble will be for these guys, but the sites are closed for good. Might be a good time to take a vacation to somewhere cooler, IMO.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I wonder who shut down these sites, whether it was LE or site operators, and what became of the information stored on these sites. This has the potential to ensnare thousands of people into this mess.

[QUOTE=Black Escape;1297018]I wonder who shut down these sites, whether it was LE or site operators, and what became of the information stored on these sites. This has the potential to ensnare thousands of people into this mess.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.livingstondaily.com/assets/pdf/C61805621014.PDF[/url]

[QUOTE=Scow72;1297194][url]Http://www.livingstondaily.com/assets/pdf/C61805621014.PDF[/url][/QUOTE]The investigation was long and detailed, despite the guys' attempts to keep LE out of the business. I guess it just reinforces the old adage: be careful who you trust, and NEVER write anything down. Two rules I've violated myself but will be much more vigilant about.

One issue about which I wonder-what are the odds they start going after individual members? I don't recall them doing that in the Miami Companions case, but who knows?

[QUOTE=Scow72;1297194][url]Http://www.livingstondaily.com/assets/pdf/C61805621014.PDF[/url][/QUOTE]Why did you post this in reply to my previous post? I read the document and it didn't address my question. Thanks though.

[QUOTE=JoesParty; 1297214]The investigation was long and detailed, despite the guys' attempts to keep LE out of the business. I guess it just reinforces the old adage: be careful who you trust, and NEVER write anything down. Two rules I've violated myself but will be much more vigilant about.

One issue about which I wonder-what are the odds they start going after individual members? I don't recall them doing that in the Miami Companions case, but who knows?[/QUOTE]I would think they would only do it if they thought there was a good case. In all honesty, they have done a huge amount of damage to the whole "hobby" by shutting down the boards. That alone will end careers and motivate many to find another hobby.

[QUOTE=Johny Mac;1297399]I would think they would only do it if they thought there was a good case. In all honesty, they have done a huge amount of damage to the whole "hobby" by shutting down the boards. That alone will end careers and motivate many to find another hobby.[/QUOTE]They don't call it the world's oldest profession for nothing. As long as there are attractive women with financial needs and men with disposable income, 'the hobby' will continue. As someone else stated, look for a lot more postings on BP, etc. Until another board or two pops up, or maybe some SPs moving back to SCs, MPs, and contacting their regulars directly (expect your hobby phones to start blowing up soon.)

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1297433]Sorry, but I don't follow you.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Plumber2;1297074]Thaifood? That is pretty wild.[/QUOTE]Thaifood was the operator of EV and he was arrested. I don't know if the AES guy was Who or #Guy, I never met them, or the 3rd guy.

Reading between the lines and using utmost paranoia, I would suspect that the "attacker" that has been plaguing the 3 sites this summer / fall was actually the FBI.

They finally popped the AES ops a couple weeks ago, which is why that site went down for so long, and held him until he rolled over on Thai.

Did he cut a deal with the Feebs to get out after rolling over? It would be a shame if so, since AES is the source of the original complaints and raffled off prosititution services at their parties.

Thai always maintained that he had a plan in place that would protect the member information should he go down.

Somehow I don't think he was thinking it through to this level of scrutiny.

I was part of AES and EV. I went to one of their meet and greets. The media Exaggerated because the Meet and Greet I went to was nothing like what I read about.

Sounds to me from some of the news stories we can expect some sort of mass outing. At the very least, the emails attached to board log-ins.

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Greetings everyone,

With all due respect, I just don't have the time tonight to write several pages describing this website's security, so here are the highlights:

- First, I don't have any info about you and I don't know anything about who you are. All you are to me is an anonymous email address, that's it.

- Second, the forum's server is located in Canada specifically to keep it outside of the reach of the USA legal system.

- Third, I don't live in the USA, and thus is would be extremely difficult and very expensive for anyone to even attempt to serve me with any legal documents.

- Fourth, my company is incorporated in Uruguay, which as very strict corporate secrecy laws.

- Fifth, and most importantly, in the 8 years I have been running my forums I have NEVER been contacted by ANY law enforcement organization, period. It's never happened, but if it ever did I would tell them to fuck off and that would be the end of the conversation.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Eq Twink; 1297591]Thaifood was the operator of EV and he was arrested. I don't know if the AES guy was Who or #Guy, I never met them, or the 3rd guy.

Reading between the lines and using utmost paranoia, I would suspect that the "attacker" that has been plaguing the 3 sites this summer / fall was actually the FBI.

They finally popped the AES ops a couple weeks ago, which is why that site went down for so long, and held him until he rolled over on Thai.

Did he cut a deal with the Feebs to get out after rolling over? It would be a shame if so, since AES is the source of the original complaints and raffled off prosititution services at their parties.

Thai always maintained that he had a plan in place that would protect the member information should he go down.

Somehow I don't think he was thinking it through to this level of scrutiny.[/QUOTE]All of the above makes complete sense to me.

Not sure where Eq is getting his info. From the news reports and the criminal complaint, I would say that all three were picked up on the same day (it was signed on the day they were picked up). Not sure why Thaifood was held, maybe he couldn't make bail. The two that got out on bail were a cpa and an attorney. The complaint reports more dirt on aes (numbersguy) than ev (thai) , but that doesn't matter because the feds are going to sweat them all to plea something.

So what does this mean for the members of the forum? Anything at all?