Agency Discussion and Reviews

[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5340963]Anyone know what's up with them? It's been radio silence since yesterday and their website looks to be down today.[/QUOTE]They either closed shop or got busted. I noticed that many of their TER reviews have been pulled from the site as well. Check your browser history for the links (if you have them) to the TER profile of recent CVIP girls, including Samantha, Darlene, Emma, Eden, Grace, Tiara, and Lina. You will get a "Provider information is no longer available" message. This usually happens if the provider requests TER to remove their reviews.

My guess is they either removed them on their own, or they were forced to.

[QUOTE=BobORama;5342368]They either closed shop or got busted. I noticed that many of their TER reviews have been pulled from the site as well. Check your browser history for the links (if you have them) to the TER profile of recent CVIP girls, including Samantha, Darlene, Emma, Eden, Grace, Tiara, and Lina. You will get a "Provider information is no longer available" message. This usually happens if the provider requests TER to remove their reviews.

My guess is they either removed them on their own, or they were forced to.[/QUOTE]The neighbors probably ratted them out. Man, I really hope Sinbi goes back to CP or goes to AG.

[QUOTE=BobORama;5342368]They either closed shop or got busted. I noticed that many of their TER reviews have been pulled from the site as well. Check your browser history for the links (if you have them) to the TER profile of recent CVIP girls, including Samantha, Darlene, Emma, Eden, Grace, Tiara, and Lina. You will get a "Provider information is no longer available" message. This usually happens if the provider requests TER to remove their reviews.

My guess is they either removed them on their own, or they were forced to.[/QUOTE]Maybe they got tipped off about a potential bust and are going dark until things cool off? I don't think LE would force them to remove reviews or keep their website inactive rather than unlisiting it. I think when the busts happened in Seattle, forum posts and reviews were archived as evidence, but weren't publically deleted.

For what it's worth, if you look at the crime spreadsheet there was a "suspicious activity" call to that area (same street almost same number building) in that time frame. Hopefully everything was okay.

[QUOTE=FacelessBoy;5342762]For what it's worth, if you look at the crime spreadsheet there was a "suspicious activity" call to that area (same street almost same number building) in that time frame. Hopefully everything was okay.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Where can one find this spreadsheet?

[QUOTE=FacelessBoy;5342762]For what it's worth, if you look at the crime spreadsheet there was a "suspicious activity" call to that area (same street almost same number building) in that time frame. Hopefully everything was okay.[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.

[QUOTE=BobORama;5342944]Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.[/QUOTE]In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?

[QUOTE=Almel89;5343333]In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?[/QUOTE]Agencies supposedly delete our info after screening. Do I believe they actually adhere to that? Hell no, but I still believe we'd be okay even if that agency got busted.

Say the worst should happen: a sting is launched against an agency you're vetted with & all your info that you sent that agency had fallen into cop's hands. LE might have heavily redacted screenshots of your license, (fake) work info, a redacted credit card, your zip code where you live, etc which proves very little. Even if that agency logged dates visited & recorded how much paid per visit, LE might be able to conclude you were a customer at one point based on hearsay. But without video evidence of illegal acts, witnesses willing to testify against you, or a confession on your part--then [U]LE has jackshit[/U]. Ultimately, it'd be too much work for LE to pursue every john in the scenario I just described. Far easier to roll up johns in the middle of the act, drawers dropped, money in hand, then to pursue a laundry list of johns from a newly-busted agency based on evidence that'd likely be labeled circumstantial.

I couldn't find the post, but I vaguely recall someone a couple years ago described how he got mail from lawyers & cops. Apparently, his info came up following a then-recent bust of an agency (perhaps Lotus Flowerz?). Cops wanted his willing cooperation or else they'd bring him up on charges & inform his employer. At the same time, lawyers offered to represent him in any solicitation case. Since no official warrant was ever delivered, he blew it all off as intimidation tactics. And think about it--if that guy had a family and they saw that mail, he'd be screwed. So it's a safe bet all that correspondence was merely just to screw with him since LE lacked the means (or energy) to truly push the case forward.

Hence why I say there's nothing to worry about. Personally, it's been almost a year since last visiting an agency & I'm not in any serious relationship--so LE truly has nothing on me. Just remember that if you are in a bind and LE is pressuring you to incriminate yourself? Do as these guys suggest & you'll be okay ([URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkN4duV4ia0[/URL])!

[QUOTE=BobORama;5342944]Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.[/QUOTE]Just another reminder why providing drivers licenses or any other personal information for screening purposes is just simply not worth it.

[QUOTE=Almel89;5343333]In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?[/QUOTE]I'm not a lawyer, so don't take my word as being authoritative, but I don't believe LE can prosecute mongers using only their info as evidence. Having our personal info is not evidence of a crime being committed. Worse thing that can happen is that the info gets out in public, which can lead to some embarrassment. But other than that, I think we are fine, legally speaking.

[QUOTE=BobORama;5343714]I'm not a lawyer, so don't take my word as being authoritative, but I don't believe LE can prosecute mongers using only their info as evidence. Having our personal info is not evidence of a crime being committed. Worse thing that can happen is that the info gets out in public, which can lead to some embarrassment. But other than that, I think we are fine, legally speaking.[/QUOTE]What about text messages like, "I'm here" or "I'd like to schedule an appointment".

[QUOTE=Almel89;5343811]What about text messages like, "I'm here" or "I'd like to schedule an appointment".[/QUOTE]Doesn't matter. That's not an indication of a crime. They would need to catch you in the act, or have video surveillance of the act.

Sometimes LE sets up sting operations. If that happens and you only respond to it by text messages, they can't get you unless you physically walk into their trap.

[QUOTE=BobORama;5343898]Doesn't matter. That's not an indication of a crime. They would need to catch you in the act, or have video surveillance of the act.

Sometimes LE sets up sting operations. If that happens and you only respond to it by text messages, they can't get you unless you physically walk into their trap.[/QUOTE]Sweet, in that case I'll just monitor the news and if I see the site back up and reviews popping up again for a few months I'll go back to my sweet k girl nectar. Thanks lads.

[QUOTE=Almel89;5344376]Sweet, in that case I'll just monitor the news and if I see the site back up and reviews popping up again for a few months I'll go back to my sweet k girl nectar. Thanks lads.[/QUOTE]Free legal advice is often more costly than what you pay for! But if you gave your info to an illegal enterprise, sure, you have nothing at all to worry about!

[QUOTE=KyungJean;5344528]Free legal advice is often more costly than what you pay for! But if you gave your info to an illegal enterprise, sure, you have nothing at all to worry about![/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you're trying to stir up here, but I'm willing to bet you money that he has nothing to worry about. And since they also have my personal info, I'm willing to bet that I too have nothing to worry about. I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it.

But since you think you know better than others, feel free to keep fear mongering.