Penis Enlargement Techniques and Enhancements

[quote=Just Me 69]John Holmes had the largest Bonger known to man, and he was dead before 40.[/quote]
Huh? He did not have the largest known to man. Wasn't even close. His first wife, Sharon Gebenini, claimed it was 10 inches. His manager claimed it was 12 5/8 inches. The porn industry marketed it to be as much as 16 inches. It was also known around the porn industry that Holmes could not acheive a full erection, so the actual size couldn't be determined by analyzing old film footage.

He died of AIDS at 43.

Ron Jeremy probably would be bigger, if he didn't have the excess body weight getting in the way.

Considering the nature of the business; an actor who can perform when needed and reach orgasm on command is much more in demand than one who is just large. Don Fernando, for instance, is incredibly average, at around 6 1/2 inches. He's been in hundreds of films and many repackages of stock footage. He's real easy for directors to work with. There are many guys out there with huge penises, but the pool of male porn actors is very small; much smaller than the pool of female porn actors. This is because few men meet the other requirements for the job.

For those looking to add size, nothing beats the penis pump. [url=http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0121051judge1.html]Just ask this guy.[/url]

Found an interesting report on penile enlargement. Evidently, it is futile. Utterly impossible. Quote follows:

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I've done some research on penis enlargement and I'm of the opinion, sorry to say, that it's not a likely proposition. You just can't do it, except with legitimate traditional Western surgical techniques such as implantation of body fat or foreign material (silicone?), and even then it's not a foolproof proposition yet.

Implants:

Silicone can be placed in the sides of your penis so that it is wider. This procedure will not make your penis longer AT ALL, and will also make the glans seem disproportionately small relative to the shaft (presuming that you had regular proportions before the procedure). All the issues of breast implantation occur -- likelihood (80% of the time) of the necessity of a second procedure to correct problems, to remove damaged or infected implants, or to cure illness and remove scar tissue; chance of contamination of the bloodstream with silicone; all other risks associated with minor surgery (hospital-borne infections, less than scrupulous doctors, hospital costs, won't be covered by insurance, etc.).

Your own body fat (perhaps from belly or ass) can be implanted into your penis. Same detriments as above, with the silicone implants, plus the fact that the fat is likely to break down and redistribute itself. This redistribution -- a common occurrence with fat re-distribution -- is highly unlikely to be symmetrical. So, you get a blob over here, no blob over there, a lump down here. Angular penis! Further, the fat will be, well, FATTY, and will not become hard during erection. You'll have a wider but SOFTER penis. Mister squishy.

Misinformation:
The human growth hormone, growth stimulants, testosterone and other muscle-enhancing drugs, etc., won't make a difference. They can stimulate more growth along your normal, genetically pre-determined, growth pattern. Hence, you could enlarge your entire body, or you could enlarge particular muscles (in combination with exercise to that part). But, the penis HAS NO MUSCULAR TISSUE. You can't "work it out." You can exercise the suspensory ligament and the muscles attached to it, but, look at an anatomy chart, those are up in your crotch where the bicycle seat hurts. And they're about the size of a dime. Working your penis with barbells, and taking creatine, won't cause your penis to swell like a bicep or a quad swells.

Pills, oils, creams:
Idiotic scams. Anyone who falls for this crap would fall for the "hypnosis can make your breasts bigger" scam as well. Call me when you've got double-Ds.

Jelqing and other massage techniques:
These will break down connective tissue to some lesser or greater degree. In the natural repair process, your body will recreate whatever existed in the first place. There is the possibility that, by continually massaging or jelqing, you can keep your penis in a perpetual state of slightly damaged "swollenness" which is probably not detrimental to its functioning. But as soon as you stop the exercise, you will lose your gains. The flesh will repair itself as best it can. The big risk is that you'll do damage, introducing scar tissue or simply preventing your organs from being able to repair themselves. Just like if you stab yourself in the arm, you'll eventually heal up (as long as you don't lose too much blood and DIE first) but you might have a scar, especially if you stab yourself deeply and then don't oversee the healing properly (suture, anti-scar cream, etc.).

Another issue is, that the massage is generally recommended to be performed under "semi-erect" condition. As far as I know, human males cannot choose to be semi-erect, and, since the biochemical stimuli for erection are only currently being understood, there's not actually any current sure-fire method for causing half of an erectile response to occur. If you get hard when you're massaging, you have to somehow "get less hard" but not "go soft." If you DON'T get hard when you're massaging, then you are not at the recommended semi-erection.

Pumping:
Same risks, benefits, lack of long-term permanent result, as massage. With the added issue of skin damage, because the trauma is being induced over the entire volume of the penis rather than "merely" to internal connective tissue. Some "spotting" (red blood spots -- signs of small broken capillaries at the surface of the skin) is regularly reported on many of the bulletine boards for penile enlargement, and although this is not a major medical threat, it does indicate that the suction is being applied to portions of the anatomy that cannot benefit from it, and hence is failing to do anything effective. Great, so you've sucked the blood into your skin. Do the same thing to your little finger or your ear, and it won't lead to a permanently enlarged finger or ear. It might be enlarged for as much as a week, same as with massage, but if you stop the regimen, then quite soon the gains are lost and you are back at square one. Unless you introduce scar tissue. I'll bet your head looks great with scar tissue on one ear and not on the other.

Traction:
Hanging weights, pulling, stretching. None of this has any effect at all. Complicated medical-looking devices can be bought, but their purpose -- to maintain and control minute degrees of variance in traction strength and length -- in no way addresses the overriding issue, that pulling on something doesn't prevent it from springing back. Either it pulls to less than its elastic limit -- within which, it springs back to its original size -- or it pulls to more than its elastic limit -- beyond which, IT IS DAMAGED and cannot repair itself. Scar tissue again! If you succeed in causing your penis to remain pulled out for a period of time after you release the traction, it will eventually return to its original size UNLESS YOU MAINTAIN TRACTION ON IT.

Internet information:
At every single website that is dedicated to penile enlargement -- I'd recommend that you google with the word "thunder" to get some of them to come up in your search quicker! :) -- there are a lot of people who post for a while, and then disappear from the scene. The few dedicated members stick around (as is probably the case with any forum, including this one), and all of them will readily admit that they must engage in their regimen permanently. Nobody, anywhere that I looked, over six years, has ever reported succeeding in enlarging his penis to any measurable amount, and then STICKING AROUND to share his information. He sticks around because, if he STOPS doing the technique, he LOSES all the gains that he got. And he sticks around because, he HAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED permanent gains yet.

Nobody ever accomplishes permanent gains.

Maximum possible gain:
Aside from the fact that it's pretty clear (to me, at least; so far, at least) that nobody has ever permanently enlarged his penis without putting it under the knife, there's another issue. Most guys report that, even at the height of their gains and in the middle of a continual regimen of massage, or jelq, or traction, or pumping, or a combination of those, they only get as much as 10% more voluminous (that's a minimal gain, since such more visible standards as circumference and diameter are only a fraction of volume) and almost never report much length gain at all. Those who do report a gain in length report it as either (a) swollen glans (soon to retract) or (b) length gain proportional to the gain in width, and they also report it as very evanescent (that's a big word for, it goes away fast), and usually report it to be a result of a more strenuous bout of their regimen that they cannot maintain because of pain or sensation of damage. In other words, it hurts too much, or makes them fear they won't be able to use the penis, to continue, so they quit. And then (as explained) lose all their gains.

Erect versus flaccid:
Nearly everyone reports that their erect state never changes. These gains, even if temporary, are only to the flaccid penis. When it gets hard it gets to the same level as ever and no more. Thus (to me, at least) defeating the ENTIRE PURPOSE of penile enlargement, which would have been, to bone the shit out of women and have them be impressed with my manhood. Duh!

Hucksters:
If they have something to sell, they'll tell you lies to make you buy it. In the few locations where the informant has absolutely no personal stake in convincing you that his information is actually true, I have found absolutely no corroboration that permanent, effective penile enlargement can be done. At all.

The one possible solution:
I think, if you could learn to time it properly, then you could use a combination of pumping, jelqing, and related massage (don't bother with traction!), probably as much as three hours a day, to create one of those "temporary gains" of about 10% after about two months work. Then, you would have to create a "maintenance regimen." You would devise your own regimen, based on careful observation, reducing the stimulus to once every other day, or maybe once a day, at a regular interval, and spending about an hour every episode, by which you could maintain that temporary gain permanently. Remember, that this new "maintenance regimen" would have to be a permanent fixture in your life. Missing it once or twice would mean starting the whole two month program all over.

The gain would be small. And I suspect (again, from reading reports) that the larger size of your organ would be evident only in the flaccid state. And the lifestyle of spending an hour a day pumping your cock but not ejaculating would probably cause you to be one of those people who abandons this hobby, like everyone else I've ever read about. They quit because they don't succeed, or because the maintenance of the minor gain is not worth the effort, since they had hoped for permanent, non-maintained major gain.

I don't necessarily know that any of the above is literally or necessarily true. That's just, what I've found out from carefully reading internet boards, websites, supposed "medical" reports, and a thousand other points of reference.

If you know something I don't know, I'd be delighted to hear about it. But it's my impression, right now, that there's no reason to even try penile enlargement.

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End of quote.

Dude seems rather castigatory (heh, had to use that one!) about the whole empire of penis enlargement. I don't know if he's right about the idea that the gains are never permanent -- I seem to remember some people at Thunder's Lair (or whatever it's called) who reported getting about 30% in terms of diameter -- and yes they posted pictures -- by means of pumping plus massage/jelq, who then just backed off from it and rested on their laurels. Of course, this dude's point is, that those people left the forums when they figured out that the gains weren't permanent.

Your thoughts?

[QUOTE=Mark Scott]Ok, can someone answer this question: Are the male porn stars all really blessed or are they like their female stars - getting prothesis implants like silicon breasts to increase size?[/QUOTE]

The only blessing they've got is the ability to whip it out, get hard and fuck for an hour or so pausing under the hot lights for stills and multiple angles and after all of that, to have an orgasm - all on demand. Not to mention the extra blessing about having no qualms about performing infront of 35 or 40 people, some of whom will invariably be or become close friends and/or relatives.

Also remember that even the smallest cock in porn looks infinitely bigger when it is put in a hand that is attached to a 5' tall CCL uberwaif that weighs 100 lbs. and thinks she is a fat fucking oinker.

The porn studio standard for being able to anchor a DP is (minimum length) 4.5 inches. There is alot to be said for the camera man behind the talent, and even more to be said about the post production editor behind the camera man.

Who "works" with a lot of penises (!) tells me that guys can look much bigger if:

1. They have a flat stomach (makes the erection appear bigger in comparison).

2. they shave themselves (hair masks some of the size)

3. they invert the natural tendency to have a sway back (most humans have an S-curve shape to their spine, viewed from the side; if you roll the curve out of your lower back it extends the pelvis forward and flat, thus enhancing the appearance of your penis)

Been hearing ads on the radio for this cream that works in 3 to 5 seconds. They were offering a free trial so I called the 800#. From the git-go the guy was using standard sales techniques. I told him that I was sold on the free trial and to stop with the sales pitch because I wasn't buying anything. I finally got pissed off and hung up.

Has anyone tried this stuff?

[QUOTE=BSR]It should be mentioned that video adds roughly an inch in apparent length.

During shoots, in most (not all) cases, male actors are using a combination of V/C/L in combination with vasclar dilation injections.

Benchseats Rock[/QUOTE]Hey I use Vitamin V and C. I do not use vascular dilation injections, but I do drive my average size cock with my 260 lbs fat ass. When you go to drive a railroad spike you do not hit it with a tack hammer.

Big Red

Hey just wondering if anyone has used Extenze.

[QUOTE=Mr Nukem]Hey just wondering if anyone has used Extenze.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Benchseats Rock]It's a [url=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Extenze+scam&btnG=Google+Search]scam[/url].[/QUOTE]Does anyone know of anything that works well from personal experience?

[QUOTE]Dude seems rather castigatory (heh, had to use that one!) about the whole empire of penis enlargement. I don't know if he's right about the idea that the gains are never permanent -- I seem to remember some people at Thunder's Lair (or whatever it's called) who reported getting about 30% in terms of diameter -- and yes they posted pictures -- by means of pumping plus massage/jelq, who then just backed off from it and rested on their laurels. Of course, this dude's point is, that those people left the forums when they figured out that the gains weren't permanent.

Your thoughts?[/QUOTE]I have been Jelqing and I drink Ginseng Tea. The tea can be found pretty much anywhere but I get mine from an oriental foods store. My wife says I have gotten bigger (like she would know LOL)

When I jelq and use Ginseng I can notice that even flacid I am alot more fuller. I don't do all the exercises just the one that basically covers everything. My girlfriend squirted the last time we had sex so I think it does work.

I agree with the other comment that said a flat stomach makes you look huge. Hell, look at Tommy Lee.

PM me for info.

Yohimbe works pretty good. I used it for about a month and even flaccid I noticed that along with the Jelqing my penis felt and looked fuller. Kinda like when you have cum and gone soft. The blood circulates more in the area. It does/did give me some side effects. I guess the herb didn't totally agree with me. If you decided to do it remember to monitor yourself. It does yellow the eyes after a time. I now only take 1 or 2 a week just to maintain.

I wish I could figure a way to increase the ejaculate volume. However with the Yo-him-be you'll find your sexual stamina has increased. I could go till she asks me to come on yohimbe.

[QUOTE=Trompe032]Yohimbe works pretty good. I used it for about a month and even flaccid I noticed that along with the Jelqing my penis felt and looked fuller. Kinda like when you have cum and gone soft. The blood circulates more in the area. It does/did give me some side effects. I guess the herb didn't totally agree with me. If you decided to do it remember to monitor yourself. It does yellow the eyes after a time. I now only take 1 or 2 a week just to maintain.

I wish I could figure a way to increase the ejaculate volume. However with the Yo-him-be you'll find your sexual stamina has increased. I could go till she asks me to come on yohimbe.[/QUOTE]To increase volume check out a product called ogoplex, it has worked for me.

I usually check google to find the best price when I need to reorder.

[QUOTE=Trompe032]Yohimbe works pretty good. I used it for about a month and even flaccid I noticed that along with the Jelqing my penis felt and looked fuller. Kinda like when you have cum and gone soft. The blood circulates more in the area. It does/did give me some side effects. I guess the herb didn't totally agree with me. If you decided to do it remember to monitor yourself. It does yellow the eyes after a time. I now only take 1 or 2 a week just to maintain.

I wish I could figure a way to increase the ejaculate volume. However with the Yo-him-be you'll find your sexual stamina has increased. I could go till she asks me to come on yohimbe.[/QUOTE]

Shit, if there was a way to limit the volume of ejaculate, my wife would be all over the shit!

Van

[QUOTE=Havanaman]Boxcc,

Agree with you all the way about confidence. I would also add that a lot of men have no idea when it comes to techniques. I can not explain this, but a lot of guys think that just “sticking it in" will do the job. Is this because they did not have any “girl time” at college, or just an inability to imagine what needs doing (after all it is basic human instinct and the chicas nearly always give indicators as to what they need…).

The majority of young men show public bravado, especially in the company of other young men: this I feel just fuels the “stick-it-in” methodology.

The lesson, and I think it should be taught in schools, is quite simple: air is to breathing as friction is to good sex.

In the end you are right Boxcc, size is an issue in confidence, technique is the solution. Just think gentlemen: a nice size and refined technique would make us all gods!

Regards, Havanaman[/QUOTE]What exactly are good techniques to sex? I've heard (and seen in porn) of various sex positions and my ex gf gave me some tips.

She told me that it's good to switch up what one is doing (how you are hitting it) from time to time. I think the problem I had during sex (besides my lack of confidence) was that I wasn't sure if I was hitting the right spots within the vagina. I know the G-spot is right by the entrance of the vagina, and on the top of the vaginal insides (assuming she is lying down) by the pubic bone.

Do you, or anyone else, care to bestow any knowledge upon my novice self, Mr Havanaman?

Thanks

Late last summer I had a serious heart attack. At that time I was 7 inches. Since that time i'm now 5 1/2 inches. Is that possible? What happened? Even when hard now 5 1/2 is all I can get. I've never heard of a penis actually shriking before.